What do ya think eh

8th July 2007, 18:30

What do you think about trying to reach 140 to 150 horses from a VTR.

Note to you 16v lot.... no i do not want to get a 16v then ill already have 120horses.

I want to be different and stay 8valve....

Inaway, my engine already has enough breathing mods to handlewhat ever i throw at it meaning both exhaust and airfilter.

But while doing all this i never forgot about brakes ect so i ugraded the disks and Pads , a Pair of ozultraleggera 15s with toyo R1s and also will be lowered 40 maybe 45mm useing SPAX all around

my vtr is/was the 90 horses version but im sure its around 100 now with the manifold,decat,centre section all custm made of course.

now i am wanting to use N/A arts to reach my target so things on my lit to get me there are as such

port and polish head.
cams with comlete new everything all seals springs ect.
bigger injectors
standalone magagement
bigger/better rad to keep the temp down
vts geabox

think that will get me near 145 horses or wishfull thinking lol

8th July 2007, 18:40

tbh 140-150 with those mods may be a little far fetched. may get 120-130. i could be wrong though. but try it and see what you get and report back.

8th July 2007, 18:42

wishfull thinking mate

8th July 2007, 18:45

throttle bodies and what you mentioned may if not some one will say

8th July 2007, 18:51

if you have around 4-5 grand then yeah

8th July 2007, 18:52

i just need to get a head and a guy i know is going to do what he can with it for buttons , then while he has it get him to stick in some cams in.

DTA is my local garages choice of management,

what else can i try to increase the horses

8th July 2007, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullit

if you have around 4-5 grand then yeah

lol that will get me far more than 140 horses tho wouldnt it 200+ easy

8th July 2007, 18:55

not NA it wont

8th July 2007, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000vtr

port and polish head.
cams with comlete new everything all seals springs ect.
bigger injectors
standalone magagement
bigger/better rad to keep the temp down
vts geabox

Good luck with it mate hope you get it.
How do you p+p head?
And how do you get bigger injectors?

8th July 2007, 19:19

Quote:

lol that will get me far more than 140 horses tho wouldnt it 200+ easy

youll have to let us all know how

8th July 2007, 19:33

haha, this site is filling up with people thinking they can get ridiculous power figures out of small cars...

at the end of the day, they are small cars and are not meant to have stupid amounts of power and that is the reason they havent to start with...

in the quest for more power ... BUY SOMETHING BETTER

8th July 2007, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullit

if you have around 4-5 grand then yeah

I think with that amount of cash and by NA tuning you should be able to get close to 140bhp possibly.

Certainly need to do a little more than you've planned so far as that might just get you past standard VTS territory.

8th July 2007, 19:38

you will need throttlebodies and a big fat race cam, high compression and probably forged pistons to cope..
Trim that bulkhead bit so you can run long trumpets and see wha that makes.

8th July 2007, 19:39

lol! i really do find the dreamers on this site getting worse day by day, if its not people who say they can turbo a car on bodies for £500 its people who think that its easy to get huge power out of 8vs with minimal work.

You will need lots spent on an 8v to hit good power, which is why most people ditch the sewingmachine and buy a proper engine.

If you want 8v power, you will need a lairy cam, which in most cases will mean the need of ITBs.

You also dont just add up power like max power says a manifold doesnt = 5bhp and exhaust 3 and a filter 2 for example, all mods work as a unit and react differently depending on the state of tune of the engine.

9th July 2007, 09:24

super charge it m8

9th July 2007, 10:03

lol i love how people say "this site".

People blind to the fact all sites have them? including ssc.

9th July 2007, 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

lol i love how people say "this site".

People blind to the fact all sites have them? including ssc.

No one mentioned the SSC Scott

This site is worse for it than most tbh. The SSC isn't as bad, but that's more down to the fact that people in the tech sections of the SSC explode at people who come on with crazy ideas, whereas they get some air time here

9th July 2007, 10:08

no one had to mention ssc for it to be seen as a comparison

I remember when all forums were full of these crazy ideas like drilled airboxes and octane boost adding 12million bhp.

Those were better days all round i think

9th July 2007, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

I remember when all forums were full of these crazy ideas like drilled airboxes and octane boost adding 12million bhp.

Those were better days all round i think

ahh yes, those were the days

Flux capasitors, Powerboost valves and all other kinds of tat. Happy, innocent times...

9th July 2007, 10:18

so a flux capacitor wont improve my hp?

FUCK.

9th July 2007, 10:20

if you wanna stay n/a, t/bs i would presume would be the only way to touch 140bhp in a VTR

9th July 2007, 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

lol i love how people say "this site".

People blind to the fact all sites have them? including ssc.

scott i didnt mention ssc, and there are getting more and more dreamers day by day posting here as the site grows and the amount of people who want more than their bank manager can handle grows aswell. It wasnt a dig at the site compaired to others, if it was I wouldnt be spending a fair bit of time in the tec sections trying to help people atm.

9th July 2007, 12:58

sorry my comment must have came out wrong, its difficult to show sarcasm and my lack of smiley has only made it worse

9th July 2007, 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

sorry my comment must have came out wrong, its difficult to show sarcasm and my lack of smiley has only made it worse

just trying to keep the peace, as you well know my sax-p ssc thing of months ago! didnt want you thinking i was having further digs again.

10th July 2007, 20:49

funny people

i'm guessing the idea of a vtr been faster than a vts kinda gets to your brain, as i can cleary see you all go of your head rather than just saying its wishfull thinking.

it its not a vts then it's automaticly rubbish..... whatever..... if you want to get picky ive already got a 150bhp vtr, NITROUS

10th July 2007, 20:51

only messing. vts are pants though lol

just will cost more than you thought, there a few dreamers on here and all seem to be newbies

10th July 2007, 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000vtr

it its not a vts then it's automaticly rubbish

I agree there mate..

No one has abused my 1400 expecting 100-110 bhp yet..

If you want to do it go for it dude..You may not get 140 bhp but it will certainly be VTS performance with 120-130bhp..

10th July 2007, 21:16

More than 140 will well be within reach, as my 1360 is currently chucking out 143 at the flywheel last time that it was dyno'ed, but that was before the last round of headwork.

That is a 1400 8v if anyone misread what I wrote, so if you have the cash, go for it.

10th July 2007, 21:19

what is it? snigger

Quote:

No one has abused my 1400 expecting 100-110 bhp yet..

i have i said it looked pants

10th July 2007, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullit

i have i said it looked pants

You said "nice one Bristol" btw..

You can think its pants all you like..Its not you who has to drive it..

10th July 2007, 21:24

was referring to when you lowered it again

edit.im only winding you up,

10th July 2007, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullit

was referring to when you lowered it again

Ah right..

Still you dont have to drive it and i think it looks cool..So do 90% of this forum think that slammed saxo's are cool.

10th July 2007, 21:28

can people stop taking the piss , he's asking for advice, on wether it can be done, and what to do to make it possible. He has never said he is going to do it, and it can be done. he's asking for advice.

with 4-5k you could turbo it.... i'm no expert but i'm guessin with a turbo you would'nt be far off 140bhp.

also my mate had spent daft money on his VTR, i never actually saw it (had it before i knew him) but from what people have said it was stupidly fast. I'll try to find out his figures. (he didnt turbo it) and apparantly he gave evo's and stuff a good go.... (dont ask me stuff about it as i dont know this is what all our mates have told me about it)

10th July 2007, 21:30

yes mum.

he wasnt asking about a turbo though and he had more than enough answers.

you know what ryans like to so ignore him

10th July 2007, 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000vtr

funny people

i'm guessing the idea of a vtr been faster than a vts kinda gets to your brain, as i can cleary see you all go of your head rather than just saying its wishfull thinking.

it its not a vts then it's automaticly rubbish..... whatever..... if you want to get picky ive already got a 150bhp vtr, NITROUS

nitrous lol! o dear.

Im not a person who has brain fade at the thought of anything other than a vts, Ive got a vtr and a vts, have looked at a few tuning options, the 8v just isnt as good for tuning, the bullshit of it having mega torque is commical, and the best ive seen from the 8v on TBs is 145bhp(ish) and that cost fuck loads more than 16v on cams.

teh winnar.

10th July 2007, 21:38

i wouldnt buy everything at once , and i was looking at options thats all

the nitrous hardly gets used tho so i dont think its a big deal having it, i may use it on a weekend some times thats about it

just by adding the DTA management my local mapper thinks i'll get a fair gain from it

10th July 2007, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000vtr

i wouldnt buy everything at once , and i was looking at options thats all

the nitrous hardly gets used tho so i dont think its a big deal having it, i may use it on a weekend some times thats about it

just by adding the DTA management my local mapper thinks i'll get a fair gain from it

its not about buying it all at once its about cost efficiency a highly tuned 8v will need more spending on it to get it to good power, and i mean alot, NOS - i will never include that as a bhp figure of the engine as its not part of the engine and isnt running day in day out, the true ouput of an engine imo shouldnt include nos figures.

Adding DTA wont give you a fair gain if you dont have lots of stuff to need it mapping to, you can tweak a map to give slight power increase and less efficiency but this can be done on std ecu and isnt worth it till you have gone along way down the line with the engine imo.

10th July 2007, 23:01

thats why i didnt mention nitrous. it isnt really part of the car which is used day in day out, but thats not all bad.... i can use it when needed and still have a normal car.

10th July 2007, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000vtr

thats why i didnt mention nitrous. it isnt really part of the car which is used day in day out, but thats not all bad.... i can use it when needed and still have a normal car.

im just not a fan of cheating gas.

mid corner on a track its no use

10th July 2007, 23:37

im useing a progresive controler which helps it blend in a little lol

10th July 2007, 23:40

NOS is

11th July 2007, 00:11

maybe so, but its fun to use if you done use it all the time

11th July 2007, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Bristol

Ah right..

Still you dont have to drive it and i think it looks cool..So do 90% of this forum think that slammed saxo's are cool.

Yeh they look arite but some ppl slam them too much to the ground so there basicly boucin on there own bushes....which is too much i reckon though thats just me

40mm at most (if u got bigger wheels) 50mm (if u got VTR/S wheels)......though urs do look mint James

Yeh im sure you can get this amount of power out of a VTR engine....but just have to spend alot on it.......though even if u only got an extra 20bhp it wud make a hell of a difference

11th July 2007, 00:25

the problem people forget that having a single cam engine, the cam profile will have a vast difference in where you shift the power, on a twin cam engine you can have a play around with different cam profiles more and it wont shift power band into sometihg to unusable in most cases.

also SLAMMED IS GAY! - it looks shit, and causes bump steer and bad camber.

11th July 2007, 00:35

Cheers chris!!

Ryan-My car handles fine..

11th July 2007, 00:49

your car isnt slammed you big gay

11th July 2007, 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

your car isnt slammed you big gay

I had the back lowered abit more recently..Tops of the tyres are just under the rear arch slightly..Basically just got rid of the arch gap on the back..

Dont hurt me, abuse me or kick my balls...Please..

11th July 2007, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Bristol

I had the back lowered abit more recently..Tops of the tyres are just under the rear arch slightly..Basically just got rid of the arch gap on the back..

Dont hurt me, abuse me or kick my balls...Please..

once a stlye whore allways a style whore.

11th July 2007, 01:18

140bhp out of a mark 2 vtr can be done in my opinion..

But even if you do it and show a RR print out the VTS (no names) boys will just make up more excuses, here is a couple to tickle your fancy;

Rolling road is shit,
Rolling roads dont give an accurate reading,
Depends on the weather,
Depends if you like to masterbate with your eyes open or closed..

I constantlly read in this forum if it isent a vts it isent worth it, if it isent a vts it's shit blah blah. Hat of to james for playing with 1400.

11th July 2007, 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

140bhp out of a mark 2 vtr can be done in my opinion..

But even if you do it and show a RR print out the VTS (no names) boys will just make up more excuses, here is a couple to tickle your fancy;

Rolling road is shit,
Rolling roads dont give an accurate reading,
Depends on the weather,
Depends if you like to masterbate with your eyes open or closed..

I constantlly read in this forum if it isent a vts it isent worth it, if it isent a vts it's shit blah blah. Hat of to james for playing with 1400.

I know thats a dig at me as Im one who states about why rolling roads are not accurate ways of measuring an optimum engines performance.

The fact that youve taken the piss out of things that effect bhp is not just laughable, its moronic.

I own a vtr as ive said many a time, which is why i know that in terms of financial sense the 16v will be a much better option.

11th July 2007, 01:34

something people forget to consider with a rolling road.

1. the fact you dont drive with your bonnet up.
2. traction on the rollers, sometimes this can be an issue
3. ambient temperature, this will cause different readings due to the air density causing changes in bhp, the only way to eliminate this is to have a controlled enviroment (something which a dyno room WILL USUALLY do!)
4. Most rolling roads are calibrated differently, so will read differently
5. Some operators dont run the car in the right gear - this will give hugely wrong figures.

Its all about bragging rights for everyone, my car has 200bhp, it means my cock is 12"..... bla bla bla...

it means shit if you cant drive it, or tend to think that the rev limiter is there to bounce of

11th July 2007, 01:38

Ok first of all do you already have Nos?If you keep using Nos all it will do is melt your piston rings, although you can get away with it if its plumbed properly but either way its not good for the engine.
And secondly if you want to try and get 150 or whatever it is you are looking for by all means give it a shot and prove everyone wrong but its going to cost alot of money and you would probably be better of buying a faster car.But good luck anyway

Johnny H your mates must be ripping the piss telling you that an n/a Vtr was beating or even keeping up with Evo's.If so it must have been a 1.3 Evo

11th July 2007, 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

I know thats a dig at me as Im one who states about why rolling roads are not accurate ways of measuring an optimum engines performance.

The fact that youve taken the piss out of things that effect bhp is not just laughable, its moronic.

I own a vtr as ive said many a time, which is why i know that in terms of financial sense the 16v will be a much better option.

Another fact is it's his car, and he wants a fast vtr.. not a vts. As he stated?

So if he's stated that why do you feel the need to say get a vts engine in every single thread were someone says they want to tune a vtr?

If i'm moronic and you sit on sax-p all day turning every thread in this section into a sharad what does that make you? a low life maybe. I suppose everything you say is right? You talk about dropping a VTS engine in because it makes more 'financial sense'.. it's a saxo? if he was thinking with his head and not a wallet he would just buy a faster car. Leave the kid to it..

BHP is just pub talk anyway so what does it matter?

11th July 2007, 01:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

Another fact is it's his car, and he wants a fast vtr.. not a vts. As he stated?

So if he's stated that why do you feel the need to say get a vts engine in every single thread were someone says they want to tune a vtr?

If i'm moronic and you sit on sax-p all day turning every thread in this section into a sharad what does that make you? a low life maybe. I suppose everything you say is right? You talk about dropping a VTS engine in because it makes more 'financial sense'.. it's a saxo? if he was thinking with his head and not a wallet he would just buy a faster car. Leave the kid to it..

BHP is just pub talk anyway so what does it matter?

If you read my comments you will see how i have told people they way to get to that power. and THAT is the reason why a 16v is more viable.

Read the whole thread, where i told him about a car i know running 145ish bhp on an 8v engine and what it needed to get there, then read about when i spoke to him about the DTA, instead of just getting the arse, if you dont actually have any knowlege why bother posting? O i forgot you just like to spam rather than give any useful input into the technical sections.

dont you have a bonnet to attach properly so you can drive over 80mph on track lol!

night night!

11th July 2007, 09:05

lol handbags at the ready.
Theres nothing wrong with tuning an 8v to the max. Theres room for variety in the saxo camp. Even a 1.4 can be fast round a track with the right modifications. Rolling roads can be very accurate if you find the right one with a good operator but you have to monitor the wheel bhp not flywheel figures as this is where they start often getting stupid.

11th July 2007, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

I constantlly read in this forum if it isent a vts it isent worth it, if it isent a vts it's shit blah blah. Hat of to james for playing with 1400.

I agree with that..

11th July 2007, 11:44

for fuck sake just for once can we keep the ghey bitching out of these threads? I'm sick of every thread where there's differing opinions involved turning into a slagging match. Some of you need to grow up and perhaps look up a dictionary for the meaning of 'opinion'.

11th July 2007, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing

Rolling roads can be very accurate if you find the right one with a good operator but you have to monitor the wheel bhp not flywheel figures as this is where they start often getting stupid.

which is what most people brag about. power at the fly means naff all, ive seen rolling road graphs of stanadard vts's that are 170bhp at the fly lol!

I just feel they should be used with a pinch of salt rather than the holy grail or the exact power which people belive they are to be.

A car can perform great on a rolling road but be shite in the real world.

11th July 2007, 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Bristol

I agree with that..

NA wise the 16v is more viable.

a boosted 8v is alot more economical to build than an NA one in reality.

ive known of supercharged 8vs at 160-170bhp that have run day in day out for many years.

to try and get NA near that on 8v would mean way to much money would need to be invested.

at least with 16vs that figure is easily obtainable NA still.

Its why alot of track boys on the rallye reg have ditched the highly tuned 8v engines they had in s1/s2s and are now running 16vs.

11th July 2007, 12:41

I agree Ryan about the 16v's being cheaper to get more power from than the 8v's etc..

I just think alot of people including me are abit tired of hearing the words "get a 16v".. Yes they are better for more wallet friendly tuning but then insurance becomes a real problem, thats why some of us dont bother with 16v's due to insurance costs..I would rather spend 2k on tuning a 8v than over 2k on insurance alone for a std 16v..

(wasn't making any digs at anyone in that last paragraph btw)

James

11th July 2007, 12:43

but surely if you declare all these modifications to get your 1.4 as fast as the 1.6 16v won't it be the same price or more in insurance?

11th July 2007, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless

but surely if you declare all these modifications to get your 1.4 as fast as the 1.6 16v won't it be the same price or more in insurance?

Who declares internal engine mods?!

11th July 2007, 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Bristol

Who declares internal engine mods?!

most people do, as if you bend it, an engineer will take the engine appart if they suspect anything - eg if the engine runs they will turn it on to see what it idles like.

11th July 2007, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

most people do, as if you bend it, an engineer will take the engine appart if they suspect anything - eg if the engine runs they will turn it on to see what it idles like.

All that will be changed is the cam..and on a car worth 1500 quid you think i will claim on my insurance? I dont think so..Also its slagged so they probs will give me even less anyway..

I'm not going into and argument about this but i bet 90% of people on here haven't declared all their mods..

11th July 2007, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Bristol

I agree Ryan about the 16v's being cheaper to get more power from than the 8v's etc..

I just think alot of people including me are abit tired of hearing the words "get a 16v".. Yes they are better for more wallet friendly tuning but then insurance becomes a real problem, thats why some of us dont bother with 16v's due to insurance costs..I would rather spend 2k on tuning a 8v than over 2k on insurance alone for a std 16v..

(wasn't making any digs at anyone in that last paragraph btw)

James

which is why i explain to alot of people the costs involved into getting engines tuned. after all ive either been there and looked at doing it myself, or have mades who have thought about it or done it.

I know alot of people build tuned 8vs only yo want more power, so they then go 16vs, and wish they didnt spend thousands on getting an 8v engine up to scratch.

11th July 2007, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Bristol

All that will be changed is the cam..and on a car worth 1500 quid you think i will claim on my insurance? I dont think so..Also its slagged so they probs will give me even less anyway..

I'm not going into and argument about this but i bet 90% of people on here haven't declared all their mods..

i'm not trying to dig bud,
but when you slag your car, your insurance wont cover you as you become a 2 seater.

Plus who's to say you crash your car,
what happens if you run someone over by accident?

~ not trying to cause an argument mate, just putting it into perspective.

11th July 2007, 13:02

I've declared all mine. It would be foolish if you didn't, as it's not just the value of your own car that you should be concerned about. If you have an accident with an expensive car, and they find that you have been keeping secrets about your own, it would null your own policy, basically meaning you would be taking up the rear with sandpaper inplace of lube.

Declare all your mods or you're asking for trouble.

11th July 2007, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Bristol

All that will be changed is the cam..and on a car worth 1500 quid you think i will claim on my insurance? I dont think so..Also its slagged so they probs will give me even less anyway..

I'm not going into and argument about this but i bet 90% of people on here haven't declared all their mods..

james if you have a crash that involves another party the car will be assessed usually, if you hit a brand new merc and you write it off with your car, and its your fault it will come off your insurance, if you are driving with un declaired mods the insurance company will 90% of the time refuse to pay. you will go to court etc...

At the end of the day if you want to do it take the risk, just be aware that there are big consiquences involved

11th July 2007, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless

i'm not trying to dig bud,
but when you slag your car, your insurance wont cover you as you become a 2 seater.

Plus who's to say you crash your car,
what happens if you run someone over by accident?

~ not trying to cause an argument mate, just putting it into perspective.

Ok fair enough..

Its a risk i take i suppose..Life's full of them..

11th July 2007, 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Bristol

Ok fair enough..

Its a risk i take i suppose..Life's full of them..

C'mon man, I thought you were more sensible than that.

11th July 2007, 13:06

Theres thousands of road users that take the same risk, so it's wrong to just single out James.
not declaring your mods is foolish but at the end of the day,
we cannot force him too.

11th July 2007, 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

C'mon man, I thought you were more sensible than that.

All my mods are declared..suspension, exhaust..

Haven't told them its slagged

So its not like i dont declare anything..

11th July 2007, 13:08

How old are you James mate?

11th July 2007, 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless

How old are you James mate?

18

A little wipper snapper..

11th July 2007, 13:11

You'll learn the hard way...

There's no point declaring most of your mods and leaving out something that's crucial, lol. C'mon man, sort it out.

11th July 2007, 13:13

Ahh i know what you mean then James,
insurance is a killer at our age,
It's 300 quid extra on my insurance for the BMC, lowered and exhaust.

hopefully that will of dropped next year.

11th July 2007, 13:14

you lot are paying nothing, ive not even bothered to ring about insrance for my track day car yet...

ive got the lube ready for when i do lol

11th July 2007, 13:17

If you can't afford it, you don't do it!

Fine, I've made my point, you may take heed or not. I don't have any more to say on the matter.

James, from what I've read on this forum, you seem like a fairly bright individual, so please listen to what people have been saying in this thread.

11th July 2007, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless

Ahh i know what you mean then James,
insurance is a killer at our age,
It's 300 quid extra on my insurance for the BMC, lowered and exhaust.

hopefully that will of dropped next year.

Well i'm allowed 3 mods that aren't like proper engine mods like cams etc etc..So my exhaust is ok and the suspension..

Trouble is there are too many twats in 16v's that cant drive/crash all the time make insurance appauling for us younger people..

Toad-I have not declared one thing which is the slaggage..I doubt many do tbh..

11th July 2007, 13:19

its not just 16v's ;

it's any car.

11th July 2007, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless

its not just 16v's ;

it's any car.

But VTS insurance is soo high though..

Cheapest i can get in my dad's name is like 2k!!

Just aint worth it imo..

11th July 2007, 13:21

wtf strange,

have you tried Admiral?

mine at 18 was 1250 tpft.

~ i think insurance is a rip off tbh myself,
obviously I pay it,
but I see why its so high,
forever seeing people my age or younger handbraking at every opportunity :/

11th July 2007, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulless

wtf strange,

have you tried Admiral?

mine at 18 was 1250 tpft.

~ i think insurance is a rip off tbh myself,
obviously I pay it,
but I see why its so high,
forever seeing people my age or younger handbraking at every opportunity :/

lol

Yeah but this is fully comp..I use that internet search thing that checks all the companies..

Yeah it is abit ghey!! lol

11th July 2007, 13:29

Honestly, go try it

I dont have to drive to work which is a bonus, makes it hella cheaper

~ just got a quote for this girl that swore she couldnt insure a VTS/GTi
20 2 yrs driving, 0 NCB, 1 claim all her fault.

She can insure a GTi for 900 pounds a year, fully comp 10k miles.

It's annoying, because im 19 1 yrs NCB, dont drive to work, 3k miles a year
third party fire and theft 960 pounds.

Insurance is harsh if you have a penis.

11th July 2007, 13:30

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Originally Posted by James_Bristol

But VTS insurance is soo high though..

Cheapest i can get in my dad's name is like 2k!!

Just aint worth it imo..

its so high because it produces more powaaaaaaa

its relitively cheap to insure a vts for the performance it produces, its in line with most other cars.

VTRs are getting harder to insure now, id had mine 2 years when a company said no we dont insure u21s now, so 2 years with them meant fuck all lol

11th July 2007, 13:31

surely your NCB carrys accross to diff companies though mate?

11th July 2007, 13:33

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Originally Posted by Soulless

Honestly, go try it

I dont have to drive to work which is a bonus, makes it hella cheaper

~ just got a quote for this girl that swore she couldnt insure a VTS/GTi
20 2 yrs driving, 0 NCB, 1 claim all her fault.

She can insure a GTi for 900 pounds a year, fully comp 10k miles.

It's annoying, because im 19 1 yrs NCB, dont drive to work, 3k miles a year
third party fire and theft 960 pounds.

Insurance is harsh if you have a penis.

Hhaha..

Will out of interest have a look tbh..

11th July 2007, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Soulless

surely your NCB carrys accross to diff companies though mate?

but they had changed it to not insuring under 21s, i was under 21, so had to move company.

its not the moving company thats the problem its the commical way that they would insutre me for 2 years with no probs, then bring in a new rule and were just like o well deal with it or sell the car.

11th July 2007, 16:46

tbh i would not bothre with a p/p head i and a few other ppl have hab bhp loss wen we fitted them so i really fink its a waist of cash

11th July 2007, 17:04

read all this thread,get your handbags out

I had a vtr and started spending money on it etc.........then realised WTF am i doing and got a vts...........solved all my problems,thats my opinion neway

11th July 2007, 19:09

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Originally Posted by jahowi

tbh i would not bothre with a p/p head i and a few other ppl have hab bhp loss wen we fitted them so i really fink its a waist of cash

i thought that most tuning places like port and polishing

11th July 2007, 19:12

well they obviously went somewhere shit or payed peanuts

11th July 2007, 21:38

who/which is the best or one of the top places to buy / get your head p/p at?

11th July 2007, 21:43

qep mate. when you have done aswell if you do you want your head doing it wants to be matched to the cam your going to use. no point spending more time on the flow bench spending more money when you dont need too.

11th July 2007, 22:20

having trouble finding a head to send in, do they already stock heads they can just p+p to match the cam thato get ( not im going that i know which cam to use yet lol ) piper 185 looks like peopls choice but piper dont reccomend with standard injection? but if i was getting a new management this wouldnt matter would it?

12th July 2007, 07:57

Whoever gave James some negative rep, can they please own up, as he thinks I did... Cheers.

12th July 2007, 14:27

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Originally Posted by Toad

Whoever gave James some negative rep, can they please own up, as he thinks I did... Cheers.

just get him to pm a mod if he thinks its unfair.

i do! had several bitchy ones removed that were posted just out of spite