Cat Cams and Remap?

1. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #1 18th July 2007, 12:37

   Not anytime soon,
   but just wondering...
   If I wanted to cam my Saxo VTS
   
   All I would need is a pair of catcams 708's and a remap?
   
   can someone confirm this...
   
   obv I'd need a better brake setup too, and would run with an aftermarket manifold, filter and a straight through exhaust.
2. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

   #2 18th July 2007, 13:14

   you would also need a set of cam oil seals but other than that you dont need any further parts to fit a set of cams! if your going cams though. make sure they are the last on your list of mods. yet your intake and zaust system sorted 1st then fit the cams(piece of piss) then get your remap.
3. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #3 18th July 2007, 13:16

   cam oil seals...
   these are expensive?
   
   Well currently, I have a supersprint race section to a Piper backbox,
   and a BMC.
   
   Was looking at doing the brakes next tbh.
   
   obviously, I'd change the timing belt at the same time as cams.
4. belly_VTS Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Co Durham(north east) Posts: 626 cammed vts, (rest in pieces) corsa vxr - 340bhp

   #4 18th July 2007, 14:01

   might be worth replacing the water pump, idler & tensioner aswell while the belt is off. so you dont have to replace them anytime soon
5. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #5 18th July 2007, 14:30

   so camming my VTS will cost well over a grand then?
6. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

   #6 18th July 2007, 15:20

   what! no! cam oil seals will be about £8 i think!
7. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #7 18th July 2007, 15:29

   if I replace timing belt, pump etc i meant.
8. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #8 18th July 2007, 15:29

   the only thing holding me back is the initial cost :/
9. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

   #9 18th July 2007, 16:54

   yer i would advise the cambelt bet they arnt expensive! and why do the waterpump! if its not broken, dont fix it. your cambelt is a good idea though. buy the bits one by one mate then its manageable. that what i did!
10. belly_VTS Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Co Durham(north east) Posts: 626 cammed vts, (rest in pieces) corsa vxr - 340bhp

    #10 18th July 2007, 17:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spencer_cammedvts yer i would advise the cambelt bet they arnt expensive! and why do the waterpump! if its not broken, dont fix it. your cambelt is a good idea though. buy the bits one by one mate then its manageable. that what i did!

    
    and what if the next week your water pump packed in?!?! youl loose your timing marks ect because your timing belt has to come off yet again.
    
    i changed everything as a piece of mind, which is worth it imo.
11. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #11 18th July 2007, 17:13

    defoe cambelt. i didnt bother with water pump etc.
12. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #12 18th July 2007, 17:18

    cams bout 350
    remap bout 450
    cambelt change bout 100
13. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

    #13 18th July 2007, 17:53

    Im currently doing my mods for my Cams.
    
    Done all the breather mods and im in the process of changing a few more parts.
    
    Ive done my water pump and headgasket, and im doing the idler, tensioner, crank pully and cambelt.
    
    I want to make sure everything is spot on before I put the cams and i do not want to disturb the cam timing at all once it set.
    
    So I reccomend getting all that changed. Oh and to put it into perspective, ive had my cams sat in my room for 4 months!
14. saunders Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 3669 Fiat Seicento, MK2 Furio 2000 X, Pug 206

    #14 18th July 2007, 18:51

    You need to get a manifold aswell Karl
15. DAN-VTS Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Kent, Medway Posts: 1274 NA 220hp standard - proper car, Yamaha R6

    #15 18th July 2007, 18:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by belly_VTS might be worth replacing the water pump, idler & tensioner aswell while the belt is off. so you dont have to replace them anytime soon

    Very true
16. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #16 18th July 2007, 19:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saunders You need to get a manifold aswell Karl

    Yeah i know I need a manifold, yes I know I would want bigger brakes.
    
    Im just summing up how much it would cost.
    
    This prob sounds real noob.
    
    But is it likely to be a cheaper easier job if I get my cambelt changed whilst someone is fitting the cams?
17. DAN-VTS Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Kent, Medway Posts: 1274 NA 220hp standard - proper car, Yamaha R6

    #17 18th July 2007, 19:40

    It will be alot cheaper yes, they are pretty much doing the cambelt when they do the cams anyway, you will prob be lucky enough for them to put a new one on for free