is it possible??

1. r3d Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 durham Posts: 308 saxo 1.1

   #1 24th July 2007, 23:14

   could i get my car to back fire like a rally car without damaging the engine ...and i no its only a 1.1 but itll would be a gd crack lol
2. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

   #2 24th July 2007, 23:16

   backfire "like" a rally car?
   
   no
3. r3d Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 durham Posts: 308 saxo 1.1

   #3 24th July 2007, 23:18

   anything close??
4. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

   #4 24th July 2007, 23:21

   what do you mean by backfire like a rally car? you mean you want it to spit flames out the back?
5. r3d Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 durham Posts: 308 saxo 1.1

   #5 24th July 2007, 23:23

   like when you change gear it spits sparks and makes a noise .. not like a butane tank and spark plug job lol
6. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

   #6 24th July 2007, 23:23

   Usually happens when a cylinder fails to fire and you get unburnt fuel in the exhaust manifold.
   
   
   
   umm - remove a cylinder? lol
7. patrick2403 Established Member Joined: Oct 2005 Preston Posts: 1498 106 GTi

   #7 24th July 2007, 23:24

   chuck a match in the fuel tank will go bang
8. r3d Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 durham Posts: 308 saxo 1.1

   #8 24th July 2007, 23:28

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ3Qb45uiPI
   kind of like that
9. patrick2403 Established Member Joined: Oct 2005 Preston Posts: 1498 106 GTi

   #9 24th July 2007, 23:30

   will look a bit daft on a 1.1 saxo daft and funny at the same time tho wud be interested to see
10. r3d Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 durham Posts: 308 saxo 1.1

    #10 24th July 2007, 23:39

    what would have to be done??
11. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #11 24th July 2007, 23:41

    rally cars do it beacuse they have made engine work and the exhuast runs so hot that the slightest bit of over fueling or unburnt fuel when under hard breaking causes the flames out the back.
12. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #12 24th July 2007, 23:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by r3d what would have to be done??

    a 2 litre rally engine conversion. to be honest mate a lot of work would have to be done on a 1.1 to get what your looking for.
    The chav spark plug way is the only way but please o please dont do that.
13. liamk15 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2005 North east Posts: 6123 Type-r

    #13 24th July 2007, 23:55

    i know what your on about,mine kind of backfires/spilts but obvious its not the same engine. Go to a costome exhaust place and tell them what your after they should help you out,decating will help abit aswel.
    
    my old exhaust on my 1.1 used to pop sometimes,not much tho it wasnt decatted either.
14. r3d Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 durham Posts: 308 saxo 1.1

    #14 25th July 2007, 00:18

    cheers nd no i aint doin the chav thing lol
15. r3d Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 durham Posts: 308 saxo 1.1

    #15 25th July 2007, 00:20

    think im just goin to sack it dont realy want to spend 2 much thaught it could be done at low cost nd for a 1.1 a new exhaust system doesnt seem worth it
16. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

    #16 25th July 2007, 00:32

    Remove a spark plug!! then you'l get loads of unburnt fuel in the exhaust!!
    
    Wouldn't recommend this though, as it can lead to engine damage, seen someone blow one up doing this at santa pod, lol
17. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #17 25th July 2007, 00:34

    erm buy a evo or a scooby simple lol.
    
    tbh all you will do is fk ur engine up if you go on ebay sometimes there is for sale poper kits or somat daft like that it does the same thing that rally cars do i have one cos im a bit of a rally slag but never fitted it cos thought to my self ''WHY DID I BUY THIS LOL''
18. r3d Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 durham Posts: 308 saxo 1.1

    #18 25th July 2007, 00:51

    lol how do those kits work
19. Martinsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Guildford Posts: 1178 Mk1 VTS

    #19 25th July 2007, 01:17

    my 1.1 poped abit with a peco exhaust
    
    Martin.
20. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

    #20 25th July 2007, 01:17

    Just have an injector dumping at 100% duty cycle into the manifold. Fuck.
21. supersaxy Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Essex/Exeter Posts: 104 Citroen Saxo Forte 1.1i 5dr

    #21 25th July 2007, 01:21

    The spitting and crackling that rally cars make is partly due to the anti-lag system fitted, when accelerating from a closed throttle to get the tubo spining up ready excess fuel is purposely detonated in the manifold, causing the turbo to spin up, reducing lag.
    
    If you want this then junk the 1.1 and get a fully fleged rally engine, however if you are after a pop and the odd crackle from your exhaust then as said above take it to an exhaust place and explain what you want.
    
    Saxmaniac5 has a cat back sytem on his 1.1 and that pops like a good un once warmed up, and my old backbox used to make a few fun noises on closed throttle, that was on a 1.1 too.
22. Jimmy-Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Suffolk Posts: 7551 N/A 200bhp+ per ton 106 gti

    #22 25th July 2007, 09:45

    im not 100% sure but i think de-catting helps?
23. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #23 25th July 2007, 09:54

    you need a high lift cam and overfueling on part throttle. Your car is never going to sound like a WRC car though
24. Foggy Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Coleford, Glos Posts: 1290 Saxo S1400 EVO II, Boosted Partner HDi

    #24 25th July 2007, 10:09

    Mine doesn't pop and bang that much anyway.... The nova used to, but that was set up to over-spray fuel in, to cool the piston crowns.
    
    The WRC's have 2 ECU modes, one for road, which is basically a std road car setup, and race mode. These are switchable between on the dash.
    
    Why do you want to do it anyway, do you like being pulled over?
25. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #25 25th July 2007, 10:14

    my nova pops a flame and a bang on gear changes at around 7k.
26. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #26 25th July 2007, 10:24

    You just wont get a 1.1 to do this naturally..Rally cars only do it because of how highly tuned they are and the way they are set up..WRC cars pop etc because they run Turbo's with an anti lag system which makes the car bang when you lift off and stuff..
    
    The Saxo Kit Cars dont really bang either and they are over 200bhp..the later ones used to bang in between gear changes..but i would imagine they were setup slightly differently as they had slightly more power than the earlier ones..
    
    James
27. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #27 25th July 2007, 11:52

    
28. andyvts98 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 darlington, Co Durham Posts: 156 mk1 & mk2 vts and leathered mk2 vtr

    #28 25th July 2007, 14:51

    i've done a couple of 2000 1.1. mpi's with the cat in the manifolds. we just put a long drill bit through the cat from the top of the manifold through the lam sensor hole