VTS Gearbox Speeds

1. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #1 7th August 2007, 22:52

   Just fitted a newer VTS gearbox to my VTS, not 100% if it is one, had it on an airfield and it used to be able to hit 115 no probs and continue to 120 but seems to struggle after 100.
   
   does 60 in 2nd at 7k revs maybe a bit more
   around 80 in 3rd not sure where revs were but were high
   then 100 at 5k revs in 5th
   
   Anyone know what speeds it should be doing etc?
2. -Saxo_VTS- Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Accrington (BB5 Area) Posts: 3036 Black Throttlebodied VTS

   #2 7th August 2007, 22:57

   my 90bhp model does like
   1st - 30
   2nd - 60
   3rd - 80
   4th - 100
   5th - unsure
   
   All tested on private land with owners concent. Hope this helps
3. -Saxo_VTS- Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Accrington (BB5 Area) Posts: 3036 Black Throttlebodied VTS

   #3 7th August 2007, 22:58

   vtr***
4. Adum Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Southend, Essex Posts: 2568 Honda S2000

   #4 7th August 2007, 22:59

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Steve_VTS does 60 in 2nd at 7k revs maybe a bit more around 80 in 3rd not sure where revs were but were high then 100 at 5k revs in 5th

   Mine pretty much does this mate
5. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #5 7th August 2007, 23:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by AJ_VTS Mine pretty much does this mate

   ah cool
6. andyvts98 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 darlington, Co Durham Posts: 156 mk1 & mk2 vts and leathered mk2 vtr

   #6 7th August 2007, 23:12

   yea the speeds sound right i've had the same top end problem i think the boxes go a bit tight top end but should lossen up the more you use it at 110 upwards
7. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #7 8th August 2007, 08:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by andyvts98 yea the speeds sound right i've had the same top end problem i think the boxes go a bit tight top end but should lossen up the more you use it at 110 upwards

   cool cheers for input, the box has been sat around doing nowt so would have thought it would be stiffened up, runs nicely i was suprised
8. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #8 8th August 2007, 08:58

   I think you should be able to make 90mph in 3rd. I'm fairly sure I could hit 95 'ish at 7800.
9. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

   #9 8th August 2007, 09:14

   i thought the limiter was around 7250, so how do you hit 7800?
10. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #10 8th August 2007, 09:35

    Different cam shafts and re-programed ECU.
11. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #11 8th August 2007, 09:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad Different cam shafts and re-programed ECU.

    oh right, so standard the limiter is 7250 then?
12. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #12 8th August 2007, 09:49

    That seems to be the case mate. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that's correct. On the stock cam shafts, you don't need it any higher anyway...
13. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #13 8th August 2007, 10:12

    yeah pretty sure 90 approx 3rd.
14. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #14 8th August 2007, 11:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soulless yeah pretty sure 90 approx 3rd.

    going back there tomorrow night will give it a test then normally only rev it to 6k not really had it all the way
15. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #15 8th August 2007, 11:43

    thats the whole point of a vts you girl!!!!!! bounce it off the limiter every gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #16 8th August 2007, 11:53

    LOL. You ANIMAL you!
17. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #17 8th August 2007, 12:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts thats the whole point of a vts you girl!!!!!! bounce it off the limiter every gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    lmao still coming to yours later? clutch deffo needs adjusting like
18. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #18 8th August 2007, 19:02

    went back, it does 120 no probs now
19. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #19 8th August 2007, 20:24

    eh? went where?
20. simongvts Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 birmingham Posts: 178 saxo vts

    #20 8th August 2007, 20:53

    i used to get
    38-1st
    65-2nd
    93-3rd
    120-4th
    off clock-5th
21. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #21 8th August 2007, 23:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by simongvts i used to get 38-1st 65-2nd 93-3rd 120-4th off clock-5th

    i get no where near 120 in 4th lol
22. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #22 9th August 2007, 06:27

    dont change gear till its going 'bop bop bop bop bop bop bop' for at least 10 seconds
23. samcook Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup

    #23 9th August 2007, 11:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS i get no where near 120 in 4th lol

    i get near enough 120 in 4th and off the clocks in 5th, not saying this is real speed as it obviously not just going on what the clocks say, autobahn before anyone asks
24. simongvts Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 birmingham Posts: 178 saxo vts

    #24 9th August 2007, 16:35

    steve_vts ae you sure your driving a vts.lol,my car was standard and achieved 120 in 4th no trouble,quite quickly aswell i might add
25. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #25 9th August 2007, 16:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by simongvts steve_vts ae you sure your driving a vts.lol,my car was standard and achieved 120 in 4th no trouble,quite quickly aswell i might add

    well thats the thing without hitting limiter just before 7k it was doing 110 in 4th
    that sound right? just think the box needs running seems to be flying again at the momment
26. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #26 9th August 2007, 17:05

    Here's a link to some really good info on this subject:
    
    http://www.saxosportsclub.com/Forums...c/t=17814.html
    
    Looks like 115mph is the max for 4th gear on normal limiter.
27. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #27 9th August 2007, 17:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad Here's a link to some really good info on this subject: http://www.saxosportsclub.com/Forums...c/t=17814.html Looks like 115mph is the max for 4th gear on normal limiter.

    cheers mate i have eben searching for that little bugger
    rep'd
28. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #28 9th August 2007, 17:13

    LOL - Cheers mate!
29. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #29 9th August 2007, 17:18

    I have posted them up here!
    VTR Gearbox in a VTS
    
    VTS Gearbox in a VTS
    
    credit to alex on ssc
30. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #30 9th August 2007, 17:19

    should be a sticky imo
31. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #31 9th August 2007, 17:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS I have posted them up here! VTR Gearbox in a VTS VTS Gearbox in a VTS credit to alex on ssc

    doesnt really help me find out if i have a vts box though lol at 60 am doing 3k revs in 5th that sound right?
32. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #32 9th August 2007, 17:31

    It does help...
    
    Just check your speed while bouncing it off the limiter in each gear...
33. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #33 9th August 2007, 17:32

    And yes, that sounds about right.
34. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #34 9th August 2007, 17:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad It does help... Just check your speed while bouncing it off the limiter in each gear...

    do wot williams said ahha bop bop bop
35. Joesnow Frequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 691 Mk 1 VTS poseidon blue

    #35 10th August 2007, 00:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS I have posted them up here! VTR Gearbox in a VTS VTS Gearbox in a VTS credit to alex on ssc

    That’s exactly the same as the spreadsheet I sent you! Just change the rpm and it will tell you what speed your doing in each gear! At 3000rpm in 5th you will be doing 60mph
    
    Where’s this airfield btw?? Wouldn’t mind a blast!!
36. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #36 10th August 2007, 08:10

    why dont you just have a look at the code on your old box and see if it matches the 1 on your new box??
37. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #37 10th August 2007, 12:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joesnow That’s exactly the same as the spreadsheet I sent you! Just change the rpm and it will tell you what speed your doing in each gear! At 3000rpm in 5th you will be doing 60mph Where’s this airfield btw?? Wouldn’t mind a blast!!

    i will show you,
38. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #38 10th August 2007, 12:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts why dont you just have a look at the code on your old box and see if it matches the 1 on your new box??

    cos am too lazy
    
    does 115 in 4th well just over 115
39. Jazz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 West Sussex Posts: 7566 CLS63 AMG

    #39 10th August 2007, 16:25

    is this what the speedo says or is it measured properly? My VTS is totally standard and it does 120mph in 4th without much bother, although thats what the speedo says I'm guessing its a little less than that really...
40. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #40 10th August 2007, 17:35

    ive got a vtr box in my vts and the speedo goes off the clock in 5th. it reads bout 73 on limit in 2nd
41. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #41 10th August 2007, 17:39

    That's the last box you want in you VTS... Why have you done that?
42. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #42 10th August 2007, 17:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lavo-vts ive got a vtr box in my vts and the speedo goes off the clock in 5th. it reads bout 73 on limit in 2nd

    cheers for input its deffo not a vtr box then
43. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #43 10th August 2007, 17:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad That's the last box you want in you VTS... Why have you done that?

    i didnt it was already in the car when i bought it. just waitin for funds to replace it really
44. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #44 10th August 2007, 17:50

    OK... that's very odd. I wonder why they did that???
45. Joesnow Frequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 691 Mk 1 VTS poseidon blue

    #45 10th August 2007, 21:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jazz_360 is this what the speedo says or is it measured properly? My VTS is totally standard and it does 120mph in 4th without much bother, although thats what the speedo says I'm guessing its a little less than that really...

    Yeah that’s right… those are the actual speeds you are going… the speedos aren’t that accurate. An indicated 120mph in 4th sounds about right
    
    You got your clutch adjusted yet Steve?? Sounds like you’ve got a VTS box I wouldn’t worry about it!
46. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #46 11th August 2007, 13:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joesnow Yeah that’s right those are the actual speeds you are going the speedos aren’t that accurate. An indicated 120mph in 4th sounds about right You got your clutch adjusted yet Steve?? Sounds like you’ve got a VTS box I wouldn’t worry about it!

    no i cant get it set right, can do height of pedal but clutch kicks in too late
    Was speaking to mechanic and he said will be alright after a while just with it being new!
    busy reseting ecu as idle is a bit rough, as went out and drove it without it reuniting itself after the battery being d/c'd for a few days
    Also it revs way past 7250rpm
47. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #47 12th August 2007, 00:07

    lets have a blast on the air field lol up morpeth way?