Saxo VTR Vs. Clio 16v DISCUSS

9th August 2007, 13:29

I have a Saxo VTR 1.6 8v (V plate) and my mate has a Clio 1.4 16v (53 plate) both standard...

If i'm right mine is 90bhp but his is 95bhp who would you back in a street race... bearing in mind the weight of both cars?

9th August 2007, 13:34

I personally would put my money on the VTR.

Do you and your mate look anything like this by any chance?

9th August 2007, 13:35

wheres the thread lock??

getting very bored of the daily, race threads now.

9th August 2007, 13:40

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

I personally would put my money on the VTR.

Do you and your mate look anything like this by any chance?

Lol slightly... maybe not as tanned as Vin Diesel though mate

9th August 2007, 13:41

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

wheres the thread lock??

getting very bored of the daily, race threads now.

Take it you dont fancy answering the question then? lol

9th August 2007, 13:42

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Originally Posted by jdun88

Take it you dont fancy answering the question then? lol

www.parkers.co.uk

has all the stats on cars.

we really dont need the what will win in a race threads every day

9th August 2007, 13:43

vtr = 90bhp 0-60 mph in 9.9 secs top speed of 116mph
clio = 98bhp 0-60 in 10.2 secs top speed of 115mph

so in theory your vtr will be faster but the times are so close that it will probably be more of who has the better driver accuratcy/skills

9th August 2007, 13:47

9th August 2007, 13:52

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

Awesome!!

9th August 2007, 13:52

boy racers tut tut tut

9th August 2007, 17:52

Lol, why is everyone round here so anti-performance? The guy simply asked what would be faster, what is wrong with that? This is a Saxo enthusiast forum, most of us on here are enthusiastic drivers, if we werent we would be going round in 800cc city-cars, we are obviously going to want to compare our cars to others, epsecially those of us with Furio/VTR/VTS etc models, we don't pay high insurance costs to drive round like old women for crying out loud. People have to stop pretending to be so righteous and let their hair down a little- why are so many people surprised and irritated by performance comparisons? Sure, racing on the open road isn't good, but if anyone here NEVER breaks the limit, please speak up. I recently got myself a VTS and theres a kid on my block who owns a black Fiesta Zetec-S who keeps glaring at me when I drive past, I'd happily love to smoke him on the open road if i get the chance, provided its safe. Big f***ing deal.

Mate, thats a very good comparison, and I'd love to see a short sprint between the two, in safe conditions of course, on a deserted stretch of road where there are no pedestrians etc. Of course Santa Pod is more desirable but not everyone can get there at the same time etc. In a race I'd say the VTR would pip it, because its a generally more sporting set up, but the Clio 16v is nippy too. Clio is better for comfort and toys etc, but the Saxo is probabaly more nimble.

Question answered. See, weren't all that hard chaps, eh?? I was under the impression this was a place where enthusiats can come to discuss motoring issues, be it technical matters of performance comparisons. If people don't like something they don't need to preach, just leave it out and go drive 20mph to Tescos, as you do.

9th August 2007, 18:08

Who evers the better driver will win

9th August 2007, 18:11

love it.

9th August 2007, 18:22

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Originally Posted by jazz_360

Lol, why is everyone round here so anti-performance? The guy simply asked what would be faster, what is wrong with that? This is a Saxo enthusiast forum, most of us on here are enthusiastic drivers, if we werent we would be going round in 800cc city-cars, we are obviously going to want to compare our cars to others, epsecially those of us with Furio/VTR/VTS etc models, we don't pay high insurance costs to drive round like old women for crying out loud. People have to stop pretending to be so righteous and let their hair down a little- why are so many people surprised and irritated by performance comparisons? Sure, racing on the open road isn't good, but if anyone here NEVER breaks the limit, please speak up. I recently got myself a VTS and theres a kid on my block who owns a black Fiesta Zetec-S who keeps glaring at me when I drive past, I'd happily love to smoke him on the open road if i get the chance, provided its safe. Big f***ing deal.

Mate, thats a very good comparison, and I'd love to see a short sprint between the two, in safe conditions of course, on a deserted stretch of road where there are no pedestrians etc. Of course Santa Pod is more desirable but not everyone can get there at the same time etc. In a race I'd say the VTR would pip it, because its a generally more sporting set up, but the Clio 16v is nippy too. Clio is better for comfort and toys etc, but the Saxo is probabaly more nimble.

Question answered. See, weren't all that hard chaps, eh?? I was under the impression this was a place where enthusiats can come to discuss motoring issues, be it technical matters of performance comparisons. If people don't like something they don't need to preach, just leave it out and go drive 20mph to Tescos, as you do.

the issue is that all the info on 0-60 etc.. is on parkers.

most of us are fed up of the same, will my saxo beat a clio/106/focus/skyline/porche/bugatti type threads that happen every day!

9th August 2007, 18:25

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Originally Posted by jaybiss

Who evers the better driver will win

LOL love it, but then if you race a super-pimped RX7 like Vin you look like a damn hero, no one says a bad word to you, the girls run after you, your peers give you all the respect, you go home and partay, no one gets killed, you grow 18inch biceps, cops can't catch you for cack, etc etc etc etc. Hmmmm... in that case we've all got the wrong ride, chaps.

Btw I don't street race, too afraid I'd destroy something on my Saxo. Racing on the road is wrong yes, but on a quiet patch of road, no one out to crash into, as long as speeds are low, a small short contest isn't unforgivable, surely.

9th August 2007, 18:33

I would imagine the Clio is slightly heavier than the VTR too so maybe that would help in a sprint. My mate got his VTR down to 9.7 in a 0-60mph test. That was with 3 people in the car too so may even be a tad quicker.

Cheers

9th August 2007, 18:42

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Originally Posted by McCrunk

I would imagine the Clio is slightly heavier than the VTR too so maybe that would help in a sprint. My mate got his VTR down to 9.7 in a 0-60mph test. That was with 3 people in the car too so may even be a tad quicker.

Cheers

was that recorded on ya phone

lol

9th August 2007, 18:43

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

the issue is that all the info on 0-60 etc.. is on parkers.

most of us are fed up of the same, will my saxo beat a clio/106/focus/skyline/porche/bugatti type threads that happen every day!

Itsafastworld, I see your point, but lets have some perspective here. Many young drivers are happy to be able to drive an entry-level sporty car, and so they are going to want to compare it with others, its normal. And not just 17yr old baseball cap wearing chavs with silly bodykits that weigh more than pluto and subs that sound like a morbid Texan hurricane. I'm 19, no points or crashes ever, a university student of law, many would say I'm exceptionally mature for my age, I don't go round with my cap on, nor a smoke in my mouth, wearing a hoody nor blaring out drum and bass, I'm just a motoring enthusiast, and sure I like to compare my VTS with other cars, its interesting. And if I have a little play about with a similar performance model on a safe patch of road, purely for comparisons purposes and if conditions permit reasonably safe use of my vehicle, there is little wrong with that.

9th August 2007, 18:46

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Originally Posted by jazz_360

Itsafastworld, I see your point, but lets have some perspective here. Many young drivers are happy to be able to drive an entry-level sporty car, and so they are going to want to compare it with others, its normal. And not just 17yr old baseball cap wearing chavs with silly bodykits that weigh more than pluto and subs that sound like a morbid Texan hurricane. I'm 19, no points or crashes ever, a university student of law, many would say I'm exceptionally mature for my age, I don't go round with my cap on, nor a smoke in my mouth, wearing a hoody nor blaring out drum and bass, I'm just a motoring enthusiast, and sure I like to compare my VTS with other cars, its interesting. And if I have a little play about with a similar performance model on a safe patch of road, purely for comparisons purposes and if conditions permit reasonably safe use of my vehicle, there is little wrong with that.

Lol

The law says differently...

9th August 2007, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazz_360

Itsafastworld, I see your point, but lets have some perspective here. Many young drivers are happy to be able to drive an entry-level sporty car, and so they are going to want to compare it with others, its normal. And not just 17yr old baseball cap wearing chavs with silly bodykits that weigh more than pluto and subs that sound like a morbid Texan hurricane. I'm 19, no points or crashes ever, a university student of law, many would say I'm exceptionally mature for my age, I don't go round with my cap on, nor a smoke in my mouth, wearing a hoody nor blaring out drum and bass, I'm just a motoring enthusiast, and sure I like to compare my VTS with other cars, its interesting. And if I have a little play about with a similar performance model on a safe patch of road, purely for comparisons purposes and if conditions permit reasonably safe use of my vehicle, there is little wrong with that.

as said parkers guide has the info.

we dont need a new thread each day. it just gets filled with spam, and im racing bwaaaaap stuff.

if your that worried about how it performs go and test it in the real world not say it will smash other cars into the ground because people on a forum said so

9th August 2007, 18:52

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

I personally would put my money on the VTR.

Do you and your mate look anything like this by any chance?

hahaaa!

9th August 2007, 18:54

Indeed it might do, but I'm still unqualified at the moment

And let me tell you, lawyers and the like are the worst, I know many of them who would happily push their M3s and E500 Mercs as quick as they will go on the open road, seriously reaching unhealthy speeds. A 26 year old friend of mine is a qualified surgeon earning BIG bucks and last week he pushed his 2005 modified Subaru Impreza soo hard on the motorway at night it's engine blew. I don't know what he did to the poor thing, he just said, "silly girl couldn't take a bit of redlining."

9th August 2007, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazz_360

Lol, why is everyone round here so anti-performance? The guy simply asked what would be faster, what is wrong with that? This is a Saxo enthusiast forum, most of us on here are enthusiastic drivers, if we werent we would be going round in 800cc city-cars, we are obviously going to want to compare our cars to others, epsecially those of us with Furio/VTR/VTS etc models, we don't pay high insurance costs to drive round like old women for crying out loud. People have to stop pretending to be so righteous and let their hair down a little- why are so many people surprised and irritated by performance comparisons? Sure, racing on the open road isn't good, but if anyone here NEVER breaks the limit, please speak up. I recently got myself a VTS and theres a kid on my block who owns a black Fiesta Zetec-S who keeps glaring at me when I drive past, I'd happily love to smoke him on the open road if i get the chance, provided its safe. Big f***ing deal.

Mate, thats a very good comparison, and I'd love to see a short sprint between the two, in safe conditions of course, on a deserted stretch of road where there are no pedestrians etc. Of course Santa Pod is more desirable but not everyone can get there at the same time etc. In a race I'd say the VTR would pip it, because its a generally more sporting set up, but the Clio 16v is nippy too. Clio is better for comfort and toys etc, but the Saxo is probabaly more nimble.

Question answered. See, weren't all that hard chaps, eh?? I was under the impression this was a place where enthusiats can come to discuss motoring issues, be it technical matters of performance comparisons. If people don't like something they don't need to preach, just leave it out and go drive 20mph to Tescos, as you do.

Lol the part about smoking the Zetec S made me laugh, we've all had the glares etc

9th August 2007, 19:01

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

as said parkers guide has the info.

we dont need a new thread each day. it just gets filled with spam, and im racing bwaaaaap stuff.

if your that worried about how it performs go and test it in the real world not say it will smash other cars into the ground because people on a forum said so

Right, point taken, but what is the real world then? Public road? Exactly. Again I don't condone street racing, its silly, dangerous and foolish, but if done it can be done reasonably safely in good conditions, provided there is no excess of speed and no stupidly heroic menouvers which will cause a crash. My point is that a small drag sprint to say 60 isn't that as wrong as people make it out to be.

And sure, Parkers is a good guide, you're absolutely right. Has all the stats you need. I wasn't having a go at you its just that I've seen forums on here where people make comparisons and get unfairly flamed for it, people should just relax a little. This is real world driving.

9th August 2007, 19:03

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Originally Posted by jazz_360

Right, point taken, but what is the real world then? Public road? Exactly. Again I don't condone street racing, its silly, dangerous and foolish, but if done it can be done reasonably safely in good conditions, provided there is no excess of speed and no stupidly heroic menouvers which will cause a crash. My point is that a small drag sprint to say 60 isn't that as wrong as people make it out to be.

And sure, Parkers is a good guide, you're absolutely right. Has all the stats you need. I wasn't having a go at you its just that I've seen forums on here where people make comparisons and get unfairly flamed for it, people should just relax a little. This is real world driving.

i flame people because im fed up of seing the same shit day in day out.

vts top speed is one thread for example, theres another what is faster thread below etc..

if people were to just check the book figures it wouls stop crap threads clogging up the engine section where alot of useful threads are active.

why say a car is faster on paper if your not going to test it in the real world.

i could have a 1000bhp skyline, but if i couldnt change gear i could be beaten by a doddery old bint in her 1.0L micra.

ive not commented bout street racing, just that these threads are as gay as george michael

9th August 2007, 19:15

Alright, think im getting you now. By the look of it you have been here wayy longer than me, so you'd know about clogging up the site, excessive threads get posted etc. On THOSE grounds, fair enough mate, guess I got on my high horse a little... no harm.

9th August 2007, 19:46

was gonna say jazz, youve only been here for 5 mins. a thread everday tiltled furion verses subuaru, vts verses enzo gets a little boring

9th August 2007, 19:46

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Originally Posted by bullit

was gonna say jazz, youve only been here for 5 mins. a thread everday tiltled vts verses enzo gets a little boring

elliot check my progress thread

9th August 2007, 20:25

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

I personally would put my money on the VTR.

Do you and your mate look anything like this by any chance?

haha lmao thats class

10th August 2007, 00:54

Obv it VTR will win........thought it might have 5bhp its a bigger engine

My mate has a Rover 214 its a 1.4i 16v with 103 bhp and i can easily beat him in my VTR peace of piss