rev limit at 6k?????

1. acb_vtr L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 47 vtr

   #1 10th August 2007, 14:52

   has the vtr got a rev limiter???? and if so is there any point in removing it and can it be done???? sick of the sound of redline lol
2. saunders Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 3669 Fiat Seicento, MK2 Furio 2000 X, Pug 206

   #2 10th August 2007, 14:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by acb_vtr has the vtr got a rev limiter???? and if so is there any point in removing it and can it be done???? sick of the sound of redline lol

   Yes
   No, not unless your car/cams max out at over 6500rpm
   the sound is to warn you your driving like a fool
3. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #3 10th August 2007, 14:57

   6250.
   
   why do you need to go higher on standard cam? are you incapable of changing gear?
   
   the powerband is below that rev limit, so the car would be slower if it wasnt there, and also wouldnt be good for the engine.
4. acb_vtr L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 47 vtr

   #4 10th August 2007, 14:57

   ok fair enough just as the power is there it goes and slutters on me like a c*nt just didnt know if there was some hidden power beyond redline lol am not driving like a fool just getting to know my car lol its new 2me
5. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

   #5 10th August 2007, 16:41

   Only reason i can think of would be for 0-60 times, iirc the top whack in 2nd is 59mph.....
   
   But imo if you're going over the limiter on stock parts youre not gonna be going over the limiter for long......
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 10th August 2007, 16:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ste_1 Only reason i can think of would be for 0-60 times, iirc the top whack in 2nd is 59mph..... But imo if you're going over the limiter on stock parts youre not gonna be going over the limiter for long......

   but the standard cam wouldnt be producing its best power there, IRC it drops off after 5.5k on std 8v cam so you are actually loosing performance from over revving beyond the powerband.
   
   std internals are actually quite solid, PSA are rumoured to have tested them to 12-14K...
   
   its just pointless when the cam only produces power up to a set point.
7. acb_vtr L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 47 vtr

   #7 10th August 2007, 17:03

   so im best getting out of gear just after 5500rpm????
8. VTR-Chris-VTR Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Bristol - St George Posts: 2364 Mk2 Saxo VTS

   #8 10th August 2007, 17:08

   Sounds like u basicly redline ur car all the time? thats not good........wud hate to be the next owner of ur car
9. acb_vtr L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 47 vtr

   #9 10th August 2007, 17:17

   i have to lol compared to my old xr2i its shite lol just no grunt to it in 1st and 2nd
   dont know what it should be like standard but have backbox, pipercross induction kit and a supposed 'racing clutch' from techniclutch but car just seems weak???
10. acb_vtr L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 47 vtr

    #10 10th August 2007, 17:17

    and ive never managed to sell a car on theyve all gone to the skip in the sky lol
11. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #11 10th August 2007, 17:21

    12-14 k! OMFG. That's awesome, lol!
    
    If the engine is well looked after, and driven softly until up to temperature, there's nothing wrong with some high reving action! Just don't take the piss and do it ALL the time. Another good tip, is when you start the engine from cold, wait 10 seconds before you drive off. The amount of people who start their cars and begin moving before they have virtually let go of the key is shocking! Very bad for the engine, as the oil hasn't had a chance to move into areas where its required.
12. acb_vtr L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 47 vtr

    #12 10th August 2007, 17:23

    i let my car warm up for a bit everyday so it aint cold oil making my vtr shite lol it just the lack of bhp
13. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #13 10th August 2007, 17:25

    Oil does a lot more than you think dear boy.
14. acb_vtr L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 47 vtr

    #14 10th August 2007, 17:27

    yh i know so on you saying this im gunna do an oil change lol and see iof it makes a differance to the performance its got new sparkies so will let you know was thinking a boost valve to try giv it a bita kick??am not spending grands on it but dont mind a couple of ton
15. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #15 10th August 2007, 17:31

    Let's hope that when you drop the sump plug, you don't have to spoon it out! lol. Don't buy a boost valve, unless you want lose power...
16. acb_vtr L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 47 vtr

    #16 10th August 2007, 17:35

    ok lol y not?wasnt gunna do cheap jobby but if you insist
17. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #17 10th August 2007, 17:41

    Boost valves are for numpties, so steer clear of that old one. I meant the sump plug mate, on your car... I.e., let's hope the oil currently in there is still, err, oil? Hehe.
18. acb_vtr L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 47 vtr

    #18 10th August 2007, 17:47

    yh oil that shit that leaves a puddle on my drive evrytime ive been working lol theres oil in it bit dark but runny and present lol so doubt il need a spoon
19. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #19 11th August 2007, 10:38

    you answered your own question.....
    
    you asked if it had a rev limit then said you keep hitting it????????????
20. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

    #20 11th August 2007, 10:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts you answered your own question..... you asked if it had a rev limit then said you keep hitting it????????????

    lol well spotted
21. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #21 11th August 2007, 10:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 but the standard cam wouldnt be producing its best power there, IRC it drops off after 5.5k on std 8v cam so you are actually loosing performance from over revving beyond the powerband. std internals are actually quite solid, PSA are rumoured to have tested them to 12-14K... its just pointless when the cam only produces power up to a set point.

    correcto
22. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #22 11th August 2007, 10:50

    Hitting the limiter isn't a problem..thats what its there for to stop over revving..Just dont hold it on the limiter for like 5 mins at a time..lol
    
    As said on a standard cam my westy hits the limiter at 6500rpm..the redline starts at 6250rpm..The highest i rev mine is 6000rpm..Anymore than that and your just really dropping off the power..
    
    If you want it to rev more get a more aggressive cam and have the rev limiter raised..
    
    The Xr2i will feel quicker because its about 900 years old and has worse build quality than any french car..A VTR would play with one especially through the bends..
23. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #23 11th August 2007, 10:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTR-Chris-VTR Sounds like u basicly redline ur car all the time? thats not good........wud hate to be the next owner of ur car

    
    LOL
    
    You can talk..Dont think i have ever heard your car less than 5k rpm!!