Mounts and Bushes advice

1. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

   #1 20th August 2007, 00:48

   Right so I've snapped a bolt on my drivers side top mount and I think it was cracked to start with anyway sooo... I've decided to upgrade my mounts and bushes all in one.
   
   
   Now I've been doing a bit of research on here and ssc.
   
   I've come up with the following list:
   
   Powerflex front ARB mounts £8.95
   Powerflex lower engine mount £23.95
   Polyrace front wishbone mounts £8.74
   Polyrace rear beam mounts £9.52
   Group N top mounts £27.69
   Group N rear wishbone mounts £88.90
   
   
   
   Is there anything else that I should consider?
   
   
   Thanks
   scott
2. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #2 20th August 2007, 00:52

   if you go on ebay you can get powerflex bushes engine mount front arb mount all in one pack, cost 85 for lot
3. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

   #3 20th August 2007, 00:54

   powerflex would be the easiest option but I don't want to comprimise now and have to upgrade later on. Powerflex aren't very good apparently in comparison to polyrace and the group n options.
4. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #4 20th August 2007, 01:07

   polyrace are best for front wishbone and rear beam.
   
   powerflex for arb.
   
   metal rear wishbone bushes (group buy on rallye reg atm)
   
   and pugsport mounts, rather than polyflex engine mount imo.
5. gary_j L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 61 106 GTi

   #5 20th August 2007, 01:07

   Is this for the 1.1?
   If so vtr/vts wishbones use different bushes to the 1.1, so i dont think you could use the polyrace or group n wishbone bushes.
6. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

   #6 20th August 2007, 01:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by gary_j Is this for the 1.1? If so vtr/vts wishbones use different bushes to the 1.1, so i dont think you could use the polyrace or group n wishbone bushes.

   no they don't?? ...............
7. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #7 20th August 2007, 01:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by gary_j Is this for the 1.1? If so vtr/vts wishbones use different bushes to the 1.1, so i dont think you could use the polyrace or group n wishbone bushes.

   thought it was just the ARB that differed on the models.
   
   id fit VT bones if this is the case on track etc..
8. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #8 20th August 2007, 01:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by snewham no they don't?? ...............

   wouldnt have thought so.
9. gary_j L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 61 106 GTi

   #9 20th August 2007, 01:13

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by snewham no they don't?? ...............

   Trust me mate they do, have a look on 106 parts.
   Theirs the base model wishbones(which take different bushes), and the sporty ones (gti/rallye/vtr/vts etc...)
10. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #10 20th August 2007, 01:14

    pfft. well I'll just do the top mounts for now and then I'll look into that. I thought that they were all the same though.
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 20th August 2007, 01:17

    check the wishbone,
    
    as said, id upgrade the wishbones anyway, plenty of 'sports wishbones' about anyway
12. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #12 20th August 2007, 01:18

    what difference do they make?
13. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #13 20th August 2007, 01:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer what difference do they make?

    what difference does what make?
    
    
    The mounts and bushes tighten the car up, reducing delays in weight transfer etc etc, spongyness and old man syndrome type stuff.
14. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #14 20th August 2007, 01:23

    bushes do that?
15. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #15 20th August 2007, 01:26

    bush??
    
    
16. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #16 20th August 2007, 01:28

    it seems that it's true....
    
    
    1.1 wishbone...
    
    
    vts wishbone...
    
17. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #17 20th August 2007, 01:28

    get that f**king Cunt off my screen.
18. gary_j L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 61 106 GTi

    #18 20th August 2007, 01:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer bushes do that?

    Ive used polyrace & group n bushes on my 106 and there is a noticeable difference in the handling, everything just seems that little bit tighter!
19. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #19 20th August 2007, 01:29

    'tighter' is a bit vague... can you elaborate dude... what do you actually notice?
20. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #20 20th August 2007, 01:32

    start your own thread you pikey. Steering response improves etc etc. Plenty of threads on this
21. gary_j L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 61 106 GTi

    #21 20th August 2007, 01:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer 'tighter' is a bit vague... can you elaborate dude... what do you actually notice?

    Slightly less roll, more responcive steering & a firmer ride. But my car is 10 years old so the original bushes had most of there life taken out of them.
22. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #22 20th August 2007, 09:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer 'tighter' is a bit vague... can you elaborate dude... what do you actually notice?

    there is less flex in the suspension mounts which translates to sharper handling. (after being uprate uprated) In cornering / maneuvers the energy is transfered directly to suspension / chassis which are areas that you can tune. Makes for sharper more predicable handling..
    
    On topic the ultimate set up would be Group N engine mounts, rose jointed linkages and polyrace mounts for the ARB etc. I fashioned ones out of Nylon for the TCAs on the 205 Rallye I built.
23. l1ukeRS Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2005 Telford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3962 Focus RS Saxo Vtr

    #23 20th August 2007, 10:10

    ill sell you some wishbones off a vts for a good price and an antiroll bar to match
24. Dibz Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 240 106 GTi

    #24 28th August 2007, 21:59

    Anybody heard of powerflex black? Think there the bushes im going to go for as there harder than ordinary powerflex purple bushes. Im guessing they will be on par with something like the polyrace bushes.
25. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #25 28th August 2007, 22:06

    dibz get polyrace bushes, theyre well known to be great bushes and cheap.
    
    the only ones i wouldnt get are polyrace arb ones - irc they dont fit to good lol
26. Dibz Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 240 106 GTi

    #26 28th August 2007, 23:10

    Ok mate thanks