Ideas on tires? Piiics!!!

1. amit67890 L-plater Joined: Jul 2007 Amersham, Bucks Posts: 33 Saxo Furio 1.4i Mk2 2001

   #1 21st August 2007, 11:32

   Ive been urged not to go with the 195/40/16 tires for my saxo because they cause "apparently" geometery problems and incorrect speed readings?
   Anybody got advice?
   Pics of alloys with both the 40 and 45 profile would be muuch appreciated!!.
   
   Thanks!!!
   
   
2. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

   #2 21st August 2007, 11:38

   The speedo already over reads your speed so fitting larger alloys (with larger tyres) will make your speedo more accurate.
   
   A 195/40/16 tyre has almost the same rolling circumference as a 195/45/15 so it will be almost the same as having the standard VTS alloys. 195/45/16 will create a larger rolling circumference thus a more accurate speedo but you run the risk of them rubbing in the arches etc if the car is lowered.
3. amit67890 L-plater Joined: Jul 2007 Amersham, Bucks Posts: 33 Saxo Furio 1.4i Mk2 2001

   #3 21st August 2007, 11:43

   Alrite then cheers mate, im only going to lower the car to fill the arches, ive been advised this wont rub, but if it does i guess ill just have to do some modifications to the arches.
   Thanks for the help.
   Pictures would still be great please ppeeople!!
4. dsh85 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2005 Teesside Posts: 8800 focus tdci, clio v6

   #4 21st August 2007, 11:51

   im down 60mm on 16s with 40 profiles, no scrubbing even with a full car,
   
   the actual full wheel size is only very slightly bigger than 15's on 45 profiles. so id expect 195/45/16 to be even further out if your putting it like that
   
   i wouldnt worry about it mate, it works out at about 10mph out at 100 mph so around a 1mph average of every 10mph. but its a lesser reading so it isnt exactly going to get you into trouble as youll be going slower than what the speedo says
5. amit67890 L-plater Joined: Jul 2007 Amersham, Bucks Posts: 33 Saxo Furio 1.4i Mk2 2001

   #5 21st August 2007, 12:00

   Cheers for the help!!
6. dannyjay Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 Retford, Notts Posts: 5491

   #6 21st August 2007, 12:13

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dsh85 im down 60mm on 16s with 40 profiles, no scrubbing even with a full car, the actual full wheel size is only very slightly bigger than 15's on 45 profiles. so id expect 195/45/16 to be even further out if your putting it like that i wouldnt worry about it mate, it works out at about 10mph out at 100 mph so around a 1mph average of every 10mph. but its a lesser reading so it isnt exactly going to get you into trouble as youll be going slower than what the speedo says

   But the J/ET on your rear wheels may be different to the J/ET on the rear wheels of the the person thats asking.
   So stating yours is fine, may not help everyone.
   
   For example; Your 16" wheels could be 6.5J on the rear which is 6 and a half inch in diamiter which will sit nicely in the arch with 40 profile tyres. Now for my wheels, there 9J which is 9 inches and with a 40 profile tyre I'll be lucky if they don't rub. (Hope this makes sense)
   
   I've noticed alot lately (not you danny) but people say this wheel size/tyre size is fine with 'X' amount of lowering etc. Nobody seems to take into consideration the J or ET of the wheels, which play a massive part in whether the wheels will fit/rub etc.
7. dsh85 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2005 Teesside Posts: 8800 focus tdci, clio v6

   #7 21st August 2007, 12:20

   way too much complex info for me there lol
   
   i would have thought 195 width would be ok but 205 would be trouble
   
   thats about as far as my knowledge goes tbh
8. dannyjay Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 Retford, Notts Posts: 5491

   #8 21st August 2007, 12:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dsh85 way too much complex info for me there lol i would have thought 195 width would be ok but 205 would be trouble thats about as far as my knowledge goes tbh

   Hehe, thats tyre sizes.
   
   195 is the mm size of the tread of the tyre, not including the wheel. So for me to put 195 on my 9J I will get a stretched tyre. But for you to put them on you won't, because the wheel isn't as big in diameter. Now the tyre wall (40/45) profile is the percentege of the tread size, so a 40 profile tyre on say a 215 tyre will be bigger.
   
   And just to help with Js;
   
   |------| < 6J
   
   |---------| <9J
   
   Make sense? Lol.
9. dsh85 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2005 Teesside Posts: 8800 focus tdci, clio v6

   #9 21st August 2007, 12:26

   yeh yeh i thoughts that wat you meant. i wasnt taking into account tyre stretching though you euro whore
10. dannyjay Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 Retford, Notts Posts: 5491

    #10 21st August 2007, 12:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsh85 yeh yeh i thoughts that wat you meant. i wasnt taking into account tyre stretching though you euro whore

    Least I taught you something.
    
    Tyre stretching is pr0!
11. dsh85 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2005 Teesside Posts: 8800 focus tdci, clio v6

    #11 21st August 2007, 12:30

    ok ok to teach me something what does a J work out as in measurement
12. dannyjay Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 Retford, Notts Posts: 5491

    #12 21st August 2007, 12:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannyjay 6.5J on the rear which is 6 and a half inch in diamiter

    J basicaly means Inch.
13. Nick_T Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Bristol Posts: 2784 8valve tbh

    #13 21st August 2007, 12:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsh85 ok ok to teach me something what does a J work out as in measurement

    i thought 1J = 1 inch
14. Nick_T Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Bristol Posts: 2784 8valve tbh

    #14 21st August 2007, 12:35

    my tyres are 195/40 R16
    
    
    
    
    
    
15. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #15 21st August 2007, 14:09

    jesus -__- Saxo forum not landrover..
    your car needs lowering lol
16. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #16 21st August 2007, 14:20

    My tyres are 195/45 R16 and when they are ready to be changed i am getting 195/40 R16 and lower my car because they catch at the moment.
    
    Heres some pics of my 195/45 tyres:
    
    
    
    
17. Nick_T Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Bristol Posts: 2784 8valve tbh

    #17 21st August 2007, 14:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soulless jesus -__- Saxo forum not landrover.. your car needs lowering lol

    give us a chance only had it just over a month
    
    work in progress mate
18. amit67890 L-plater Joined: Jul 2007 Amersham, Bucks Posts: 33 Saxo Furio 1.4i Mk2 2001

    #18 21st August 2007, 17:50

    haha nice superT's thats the exact combo im gettin superT's on 195/40/16 continentals!!!!
    How much did you pay for the wheel and tire package?