Performance Stats

1. robp L-plater Joined: May 2007 Leeds Posts: 90 nothing at the moment!

   #1 11th September 2007, 13:36

   I'm not sure if this should be in the performance or gearbox forum, but I'm wondering what the actual performance figures are if you fit a 106 Rallye S1 gearbox to a VTS?
   
   I've found a thread which provides top speeds in each gear but no actual stats for 0-60, top speed and in-gear acceleration figures.
   
   I know the top speed is reduced and the acceleration is improved due to the final drive ratio but what I'm after is a "before and after" comparison if anyone else has done this mod.
   
   Also has anyone done the opposite and stuck a VTR box on a VTS? The FDR seems to suggest that top speed will improve significantly (158mph in 5th!) and you'll still hit 60 in 2nd gear...albeit in a slower time I would have thought!
   
   Thanks in advance everyone!
2. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #2 11th September 2007, 13:39

   i have a gear calculator if you can provide all the gear details
3. thadogg Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Buxton, Derbyshire Posts: 1801 Impreza Sti PPP

   #3 11th September 2007, 13:42

   Not sure on the rallye gearbox mate, but lavovts has a VTR box in his cammed 'S' and hes had his off the clocks, PM him and see what he says.
4. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #4 11th September 2007, 15:13

   Check my progress thread if you like. There's vids in there of my car with the stock box and also the S1 box. Running around 150 - 160 bhp... Search for "toad's mota" and you'll find it.
5. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #5 11th September 2007, 15:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by thadogg Not sure on the rallye gearbox mate, but lavovts has a VTR box in his cammed 'S' and hes had his off the clocks, PM him and see what he says.

   You don't want a stock VTR box in a VTS. Are you sure you got that one right?
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 11th September 2007, 15:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by thadogg Not sure on the rallye gearbox mate, but lavovts has a VTR box in his cammed 'S' and hes had his off the clocks, PM him and see what he says.

   does he have his own private autobahn?
   
   why do you want to have less accelleration but big top speed?
7. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #7 11th September 2007, 15:27

   Easy mate, lol.
8. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #8 11th September 2007, 15:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Toad Easy mate, lol.

   it just baffles me..
   
   why do it?
9. robp L-plater Joined: May 2007 Leeds Posts: 90 nothing at the moment!

   #9 11th September 2007, 15:29

   Found the other thread - all the info below was posted by Ruffgeezer
   
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   All the following are max speeds (mph) in each gear with a 7000rpm limiter and 185/55/14 tyres.
   
   Typical MA 4 speed (3.58FDR)
   1st 40.7
   2nd 70.7
   3rd 113.3
   4th 158.0
   
   Typical 954/1124cc (4.29 FDR)
   1st 34.0
   2nd 59.1
   3rd 83.8
   4th 104.3
   5th 139.5
   
   Typical 1360 (3.77 FDR)
   1st 33.5
   2nd 62.5
   3rd 95.4
   4th 118.7
   5th 158.8
   
   S1 Rallye (4.54 FDR)
   1st 29.6
   2nd 51.8
   3rd 74.3
   4th 96.2
   5th 118.8
   
   1.4 XSi (4.29 FDR)
   1st 31.3
   2nd 54.8
   3rd 78.6
   4th 101.8
   5th 125.7
   
   1.6 XSi/S2 Rallye (4.06 FDR)
   1st 33.0
   2nd 57.9
   3rd 83.0
   4th 107.6
   5th 132.9
   
   Gti/VTS (3.94 FDR)
   1st 34.1
   2nd 59.7
   3rd 85.6
   4th 110.9
   5th 137.0
   
   VTR (3.77 FDR)
   1st 38.7
   2nd 67.3
   3rd 95.4
   4th 118.7
   5th 158.8
10. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #10 11th September 2007, 15:39

    We've got better stats than that. I'll find the link...
    
    But with regard to acceleration figures and 0 - 60 times, it's anyone's guess. How long is a piece of string?
11. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #11 11th September 2007, 15:42

    As promised:
    
    http://www.saxosportsclub.com/Forums...c/t=17814.html
12. thadogg Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Buxton, Derbyshire Posts: 1801 Impreza Sti PPP

    #12 11th September 2007, 15:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad You don't want a stock VTR box in a VTS. Are you sure you got that one right?

    Soz mate, I'm just going off what I've been told. I'm 99% sure its a VTR box though.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan does he have his own private autobahn? why do you want to have less accelleration but big top speed?

    Not sure mate, I think he's putting an S box back in though, I'm sure he'll correct me though if he see's the thread.
13. robp L-plater Joined: May 2007 Leeds Posts: 90 nothing at the moment!

    #13 11th September 2007, 16:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad As promised: http://www.saxosportsclub.com/Forums...c/t=17814.html

    
    164 mph in 5th with a VTR box!!!
    
    Cheers mate, big help
14. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #14 12th September 2007, 01:33

    You're welcome.