Lowering?

1. grantlowery Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1967 Shag Wag

   #1 25th November 2007, 19:28

   I wanna lower my vtr but as Im fairly new to all this, I dont have a clue how to go about it and how much it will cost, could any one give me any advice about it?
   
   cheers
2. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

   #2 25th November 2007, 19:37

   Do you want to lower your car for:
   
   Performance (handling) or Just the looks
   
   And how low do you want to go?
3. grantlowery Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1967 Shag Wag

   #3 25th November 2007, 19:38

   Bit-a-both I would say, dont want it to low for speed bumps but I want it low enough to handle well and look good.
4. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

   #4 25th November 2007, 19:42

   Have a quick look at this thread:
   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=113676
   
   Kam Racing and James Bristol are the guys you need to talk to really.
   
   Also have a look on www.kam-racing.com, Some suspension kits on there.
   
   But tbh it sounds like you just want it to look good, If i was you i would get some 40mm springs and pay a garage to fit them and adjust the torsian bar 40mm.
   
   40mm all around, should get over speedbumps fine, just low enough for people to notice its been lowered, Plus you wont need a full suspension kit, if you only go 40mm you dont need new full kit.
   
   I would wait and listen what others say first though.
   
   
   edit:
   oh prices
   
   For some 40mm springs, your probably looking at about £40/£50.
   To get them fitted and torsian bar adjusted properly, about £120
5. grantlowery Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1967 Shag Wag

   #5 25th November 2007, 20:14

   right so if I set myself a budget of 200 quid i should get it all sorted
6. nazz1 Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 South Wales Posts: 2076 Saxoless

   #6 25th November 2007, 20:23

   go 50mm IMO
   
   I am down 40mm and wish i'd gone down more
   
   About £100 for fitting of springs and torsion bar lowered to match
   
   (asked 10 times a day, do a search)
7. grantlowery Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1967 Shag Wag

   #7 25th November 2007, 20:31

   Yer ive just look through a few pages on the forum and its a pretty common question lol
8. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

   #8 25th November 2007, 21:04

   40mm for the best of both worlds. 35mm for handling.
9. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

   #9 25th November 2007, 21:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by nazz1 go 50mm IMO I am down 40mm and wish i'd gone down more About £100 for fitting of springs and torsion bar lowered to match (asked 10 times a day, do a search)

   He wants handling and be able to get over speed bumps with ease...
   
   I think 40mm is about right for him tbh
10. Saxo_Scott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 East Grinstead - West Sussex Posts: 3094 BMW E46 M3

    #10 25th November 2007, 21:14

    im going 45 its not to low but not to high
11. grantlowery Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1967 Shag Wag

    #11 25th November 2007, 21:46

    Can you really notice its bin lowered at 40mil?
12. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #12 25th November 2007, 21:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by grantlowery Can you really notice its bin lowered at 40mil?

    It wont be like "WOW THATS LOW"
    It will be more like "Hmm that looks abit lower than normal"
    
    If you get me
13. stoney_182 Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 near colchester Posts: 1189 clio 197

    #13 25th November 2007, 22:21

    50mm, 40mm just aint quite enough for me
14. grantlowery Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1967 Shag Wag

    #14 25th November 2007, 22:55

    Hmm 45 sounds about right then, I suppose alloy size can affect the look to cant it?
15. GroomGTI Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Yorkshire. Posts: 1748 White 106 Gti

    #15 25th November 2007, 22:58

    Go down 80mm Looks sweet
16. grantlowery Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1967 Shag Wag

    #16 25th November 2007, 23:01

    80mm lol, i want to get it off my drive!
17. GroomGTI Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Yorkshire. Posts: 1748 White 106 Gti

    #17 25th November 2007, 23:17

    lol its not that bad tbh
18. grantlowery Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1967 Shag Wag

    #18 25th November 2007, 23:41

    Your avatar is that 80mm?
19. GroomGTI Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Yorkshire. Posts: 1748 White 106 Gti

    #19 25th November 2007, 23:51

    My car is roughly 90mm i think m8. Theres a few pics in my progress thread.
20. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

    #20 25th November 2007, 23:53

    50mm mate
    
    looks good, and will get over any speed bump
    
    and handles like a beast
21. grantlowery Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1967 Shag Wag

    #21 25th November 2007, 23:57

    50 it is then, bodywork comes first tho!
22. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #22 26th November 2007, 12:02

    good choice, 50mm is a good comprimise between looks and handling, im defnially glad i went down 50 instead of 40 i was thinking about.
    
    best springs for the job are the eibach sportlines tbh.
23. Morgan_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Bristol/Bucks Posts: 2931 N3CNM 8v y0¬!

    #23 26th November 2007, 17:41

    do most saxos clear speed bumps down 50?
    
    This is my worry atm. Dont want to be fooking my car up when I go down certain roads.
    
    Otherwise Im going 40 on Konis!
24. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #24 26th November 2007, 17:57

    most you can get over, ive caught on one i think, and caught coming out of some mates drives. but i think its fine, i could imagine -60 being a bitch tho
25. alextoffie Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Bolton Posts: 1300 Mauritius blue VTR

    #25 26th November 2007, 18:35

    i have some pretty animal speed bumps near me... i was planning to go 40 but i'l take it 50 providing it will clear things fine...
    
    will i have any problems if its down 50? was also planning to fit a lower strut brace
    
    sorry for the hijack but its better than starting another lowering topic
26. M44T Newbie Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 16 saxo vtr

    #26 26th November 2007, 18:48

    i live in birmingham, and we have some of the highest speedbumps in the country (true fact, was in the paper! lol ) im down 80mm and 60 on the front, looks brilliant and still gets over bumps at 20/30mph, the ones to watch out for are the ones that are square shaped and theres one on each side of the road, you scrape on them because your wheels go either side and the bumps high up in the middle, best to go over on two wheels, not all four
27. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #27 26th November 2007, 18:53

    Quote:

    im down 80mm and 60 on the front, looks brilliant and still gets over bumps at 20/30mph

    bull shit, thats fast mate !
    
    well im not sure who lowered your car, but im 50mm all round and i certainly cant go those speeds over speedhumps !
    
    reply to alextofie, yeah should be fine, gotta just go carefull like any lowered car ! Personally i wouldnt risk a lower strut brace with down -50, if you want one id keep to -40 imo.
28. Morgan_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Bristol/Bucks Posts: 2931 N3CNM 8v y0¬!

    #28 26th November 2007, 19:35

    50 is way too low for a lower strut brace..... 35 max Id say!
29. alextoffie Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Bolton Posts: 1300 Mauritius blue VTR

    #29 26th November 2007, 19:46

    I'll do it 40 then... Still looks a lot better down 40 i think!
30. M44T Newbie Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 16 saxo vtr

    #30 26th November 2007, 20:01

    lol , i kno members on here that will tell yu i do them at that speed still lol... im down on spax adjustable suspension, set at its hardest aswell
31. Dave_M Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 birmingham Posts: 1110 Mk 1 VTS

    #31 26th November 2007, 20:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M44T lol , i kno members on here that will tell yu i do them at that speed still lol... im down on spax adjustable suspension, set at its hardest aswell

    I can tell you he does actually go 30 still. Im down the same and i can go over some at 30.
    
    Its the little short ones that are the worst where your front wheels drop over and it just chinks off your exhaust. HAve to go like 2mph over those.
32. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #32 26th November 2007, 22:41

    Just incase anyone hasn't mentioned it, if lowering it more than 40, maybe even less. Make sure the power steering pipe isn't being rubbed against anything. If you have a mk2.
    
    Maybe he can go over them at that speed no problem because he already knocked off anything that would contact with anything the first time he did it?
    
    But seriously I would have thought spax adjustables on the hardest settings and lowered 60 I would have thought would be a fair jolt to say the least?
33. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #33 26th November 2007, 23:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M44T i live in birmingham, and we have some of the highest speedbumps in the country (true fact, was in the paper! lol ) im down 80mm and 60 on the front, looks brilliant and still gets over bumps at 20/30mph, the ones to watch out for are the ones that are square shaped and theres one on each side of the road, you scrape on them because your wheels go either side and the bumps high up in the middle, best to go over on two wheels, not all four

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave_M I can tell you he does actually go 30 still. Im down the same and i can go over some at 30.

    What a load of bull shit.
34. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #34 27th November 2007, 11:29

    well good for you tbh, but thats fucking your car up and your back most likely.
    
    But saying that i dont know what the speedhumps are around you. could be tiny shitty ones. then you probably can, but if i went over a speedhump at 30mph my bumper will be behind me somewhere in peices.
    
    Another thing, most speedhumps are there to keep you to 20mph, so nice speeding claim
35. Dave_M Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 birmingham Posts: 1110 Mk 1 VTS

    #35 27th November 2007, 20:10

    Roads are still 30mph though? So not speeding.
    
    And i said some bumps i can go 30 over. Some are gentle ones. I know when im doing damage to my car.
    
    I was not on about some massive speed bumps. I dont go rallying my car 3foot in the air. Pretty obvious just by looking at the speed bump to whether you need to go 5mph or can go 25mph.