Phase 2 VTR - how the hell do you decat it?

  1. Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 6
    #1
    Hi there, sorry for any mistakes or anything im new to this.

    I've been looking everywhere for mk2 VTR stainless decat manifolds, but cant find them anywhere?

    currently i just have a raceland green induction kit and an ashley exhaust (cat-back) and really want to de cat it as iv heard the noise and performance gains are good.

    just wondered if anyone knows or could help in how to get my hands on a stainless manifold that takes out the cat, or ne alternate options.

    cheers for looking.

    rich
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4119
    #2
    there`s a guide in the link below for the raceland manifold on what to do to fit the manifold which decat`s it also. but there`s also other manifolds which go staight on with less messing about. you can get them on ebay or demon tweeks place like that

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87713
  3. Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 6
    #3
    oh okay

    ive had a look, the raceland 4-2-1 manifold is alot cheaper, but it takes alot of messing around from the looks of it.

    if you fit that, would i have to replace my ashely cat back with a vtr phase one de cat exhaust?

    im gettign well confused lol

    cheers
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4119
    #4
    nah mate your exhaust on the car would be fine its just the manifold you would have to replace. there`s also another manifold for the mark 2 that has a sport cat built into it. think its called a miltek but it was like 400quid. but saves the hassel at mot time cause you wouldn`t have to swap manifold over again. there`s another site called gmc motorsport that do a manifold that bolts straight on so there`s no messing about with the oil filter. but same goes for mot with these manifold you would have to put the standard back on to pass the emissions tests.
  5. Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553
    #5
    Supersprint is a straight fit iirc...?
  6. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Telford Posts: 491 Icelandic Grey VTS
    #6
    ok there is 1 thing my m8 did with his mk2 vtr, go to a scrappy, find a mk1 vtr and then take the manifold and down pipe off it, then change them over and put the pre cat lmaba sensor in the downpipe then u will need to buy/make a copper sleeve for the after cat sensor so that it will read clen air...
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by David View Post
    Supersprint is a straight fit iirc...?
    There are

    Manifold has the cat in it for yours so if you replaced the manifold you could either leave the Cat out or fit it just after the downpipe and before the centre pipe of the exhaust

    Jack your car up, stick your head under the car and you'll see
  8. Regular Poster Joined: May 2007 out in the sticks Posts: 269 a vts wot i`ve for trackdays and 206 xsi for eve
    #8
    those racland are good and cheap mine pits some right flames out
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 North London Posts: 6170 Land Rover Discovery
    #9
    bribe the MOT centre simple as if you are on friendly terms with the MOT tester, thats what im going to do come june
  10. Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 6
    #10
    Is the supersprint for the old VTR the one that will fit the new one?
    cheers
  11. Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP
    #11
    supersprint mate, pay extra for build quality (compared to raceland) and its worth i
  12. Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Swanley,Kent Posts: 866 saxo vtr
    #12
    is there really much difference between gmc and raceland performance wise?

    as gmc is 4-1 and raceland is a 4-2-1
  13. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Prestwick Posts: 952 Saxo VTR mk2
    #13
    Quote:
    Is the supersprint for the old VTR the one that will fit the new one?
    cheers
    Correct
  14. Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT
    #14
    ^^ but you will still have to relocate the oil filter.

    i was speaking to someone the other day and they were sayiong that the oil filter housing from a Renult 5 can replace the mk2 saxo one and then you can fit a mk1 manifold on without having to tap into the block. dont know if this would work though
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #15
    you wouldnt need to tap into the block anyway, mocal do a filter relocation kit.
    and yeah, the R5 filter is shorter so doesnt stick out as far.
  16. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 malton north yorkshire Posts: 377 Silver citroen saxo vtr mk 2 120BHP
    #16
    i fited a 4-1 manifold to my mk2 vtr i went to the pugeot parts desk and ordered a mk1 filter and the threaded bit that screws into the block and the filter screws onto that above that there is a plug in the front of the block wich you remove to put the oil pressure sensor in and there is a little hole in the block next to the oil filter you just plug that by tapping it and putting a bolt into it i just left the 2nd lambda sensor out my engine light isnt on and the car runs mint goes quite well really
  17. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Prestwick Posts: 952 Saxo VTR mk2
    #17
    Quote:
    ^^ but you will still have to relocate the oil filter.

    i was speaking to someone the other day and they were sayiong that the oil filter housing from a Renult 5 can replace the mk2 saxo one and then you can fit a mk1 manifold on without having to tap into the block. dont know if this would work though
    I have the supersprint mani on my mk2 and it clears the oil filter, it doesn't need relocated.
  18. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2004 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 11649 FN2 Civic Type-R
    #18
    or just buy a gmc one thats a streight fit