How to : Fit 4-2-1 Raceland to 1.4/VTR MK2's

14th June 2007, 16:52

I found a few problems when fitting my raceland manifold to my mk2 1.4 Furio so thought id take pics as i went along to help out anyone. Il try make this guide as simple as possible ok
Start off with a lovely looking Manifold like mine below

Start with removing the manifold heat shield, unplug the top and bottom lambda sensor, but dont worry about unscrewin them from the old maniold yet. Use WD40 on all the bolts and leave them to soak and then undo all of them. Undo the bolts connecting the manifold to the exhaust aswell using a 10 mil spanner and 10 mil socket wrench.

Now to get the manifold out i had to unclip the radiator and push it in towards the front bumper to create extra space. This is a 2 person job as one has to support the manifold from underneath and one hold the radiator back and lift the old manifold out. Once done it should like this...

(I removed the alternator the 1st time i tried fitting my manifold this dosn't need to be done).

Now remove the old gasket and clean up the bolts and studs, dont worry if they came out just screw them back in. You can use new bolts and studs but as its just a 1.4 i didnt bother.

The Raceland 4-2-1 manifold will need the oil filter moving, the oil pressure sensor moving, and a sleeve for the bottom lambda sensor. Here is how i got round these problems....

The Oil Filter Problem
You will need a MK1 Oil filter and adapter the part which lets the mk1 filter screw onto the engine block. You will also need a M10 Tap and a M10 Screw.

Start off by placing something like a container to catch all the oil when you remove your mk2 oil filter. Remove the 4 bolts holding filter, and unplug the sensor at the bottom and unscrew it from the base of the filter housing, you will need these. Place the mk2 filter and housing in the container and move it away.

You will be left with a site like this...

Now you need to plug the hole on the right using the M10 Tap and M10 Screw, this is the oil return hole which isnt relevant to the MK1 Oil filter your about to put on.

Screw the adapter into the big hole and then screw the new mk1 oil filter onto this, make sure its nice and tight.

Oil Pressure Sensor Problem
There is a plug in the engine block around the middle which you need to remove. I couldnt get a tool for it so my m8 smacked a big allen key into and managed to remove it using that. This is where the removed oil pressure sensor must go.

(In this pic the oil return hole had not yet been plugged you can see it the right of the MK1 Oil Filter)
I found that when my Manifold was on it melted the sensor as it was touching so had to rebuild it making it smaller. I would of thort the MK1 sensor is smaller so you could purchase 1 to get round that problem.

Now you can fit your manifold its fairly simple im not going to talk through it as others have just search if you need to know.

The Lambda Sensor Problem
The lambda sensors on the old manifold can now be removed. The top one screw that into the hole in the manifold and plug the wire back into the right plug, will have to go down the back of the engine to reach. Now the other sensor needs to read clean air so needs a sleeve, i didnt have the time to order one so made one out of copper pipe (il get a picture up soon), that i sat next to the battery in the engine bay. I have found no problems with the running of my car from doing this.

The Finished Result

So hopefully that will help everyone who is fitting a raceland to a Furio or mk2 VTR. Sorry its long i thought i would try and get out as much information as i can, ill add to it if i feel ive missed anything out

Enjoy!

Part Numbers
The Oil Filter Insert - 1103A7 @ £2.07 excl VAT
The MK1 Oil Filter - 1109N3 @ £2.95 excl VAT
Big Bolt for attaching manifold to gearbox - 210314 @ £1.87 excl VAT

Now those werent on a printed out invoice just on a written one so hard to read, i think there right thow. From Citroen Parts Desk.

Finchy

14th June 2007, 17:02

weehey nice one Finchy i ave been waiting for a guide on how to do that thanks alot will give that ago 2moz

14th June 2007, 17:09

not a problem m8

it needed to be done, i virtually did mine using trial and error lol

14th June 2007, 17:12

thats a well good guide.
very informative

14th June 2007, 17:25

where did you get the mk1 adaptor? From Citroen parts desk? If so a part number would be very useful

Good guide!

14th June 2007, 17:28

can i have some part numbers please

14th June 2007, 17:34

^^ was just going to say part numbers please.

good guide mate, i think that the main part where you have to carfull is when tapping the thread into the engine block

14th June 2007, 17:51

There u go guys i think there right, citroen didnt no what to do when i explained to them what i wanted to do, they shit a brick! haha

14th June 2007, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

There u go guys i think there right, citroen didnt no what to do when i explained to them what i wanted to do, they shit a brick! haha

same lol they said to me that it would be too much work and that the sensor for the oil pressure goes in the back of the engine n it would have to be a whole engine out job

Wat parts do i need to do this? plz list the parts i need and were i can get them from

14th June 2007, 20:52

Is this correct?

Also what you used is for restoring existing threads and shouldnt really be used as a tap to cut a new thread.

Good guide tho, well done.

14th June 2007, 21:45

nice one mate! now can buy a manifold and not worry about havin to get someone else to fit it! cheers!

15th June 2007, 14:10

yes m8 thats correct, gd diagram. Well you see my m8 originaly tapped the hole below where the filter adapter screws in lol and that is what we used cuz it was so big, i didnt take a picture of the M10 Tap so used that as an example. Il do a list of parts after lunch

15th June 2007, 14:33

thats worth some rep i think

15th June 2007, 17:14

Just a quick question:
Do you need to put the old filter back on to get the original manifold back on?

p.s great guide

15th June 2007, 17:19

yes u will need to put the mk2 oil filter and housing back on and put everything back to where it was, block the engine block hole back up with the tap when you remove the sensor etc

Thanks everyone

19th July 2007, 16:14

do you have a pic as where the labda sensor goes ?

9th September 2007, 22:32

do you need to do this if you have a mk1 vtr?

9th September 2007, 22:36

nope.. only on models with the cat in the manifold

11th September 2007, 22:32

I think i heard predator_vtr saying that a r5 gtt oil filter fits straight on and is small enough for the raceland mani to fit around on a mk2.

Has anyone tried this? Does it work? Will the filter fit straight on and run ok?

12th September 2007, 08:11

could you not just unplug the second sensor instead of putting it in the sleeve? either way the engine light will come on,
thats what i did when i de-cated my vts just unplug it

12th September 2007, 08:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_VTS

could you not just unplug the second sensor instead of putting it in the sleeve? either way the engine light will come on,
thats what i did when i de-cated my vts just unplug it

You can but the sleeve not only tries to stop the light coming on but also protects the senser from the elements

12th September 2007, 08:22

would you need to do this with a W reg mk2 (cat underneath) or would it be a straight swap as with a mk1 ?

ta

13th September 2007, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBVTR

would you need to do this with a W reg mk2 (cat underneath) or would it be a straight swap as with a mk1 ?

ta

i would think its a straight swop depending on the poistion of ur oil filter. if its pointing up then no, but if its pointing towards the front of the car then yes

13th September 2007, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by saunders

You can but the sleeve not only tries to stop the light coming on but also protects the senser from the elements

ye exactly right m8. u need it to be protected in a sleeve so it only reads clean air then the engine management light should not come on, mine hasnt

16th September 2007, 23:14

just had a rolling road day today and thought why not il put the furio on. got 90.6 bhp pretty impressive for a 1.4 8v yer? with a raceland 4-2-1, pipercross viper induction kit, and a de-cat straight through system with twin exhausts.

Going to heat wrap manifold and alter cold air feed and get red of the twin exhausts and should make a big difference according to the guy who did it, as my engine bay was getting so hot.

Anyway very happy with that bhp

16th September 2007, 23:19

not bad result there mate

16th September 2007, 23:38

u've managed to get anotha 15bhp through those breathing mods?......

hmmm!!

interesting!

17th September 2007, 09:45

what do i do with the sensor in the top of the manifold???? i know that i put the 1 after the cat in a sleeve.

17th September 2007, 11:35

any1?????

17th September 2007, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc_safc

what do i do with the sensor in the top of the manifold???? i know that i put the 1 after the cat in a sleeve.

You put the top sensor into a sleeve and put the bottom one into the manifold!

17th September 2007, 22:09

yep just like the man said lol.

ye i know i was bricking it as was with alot of high powered cars, but as soon as got my first reading i was like 'o wow thats made my day and week' lol. Alot of people were impressed, i would recommend doing the mods i have done, hass hardly cost me much at all. cant wait till pay day to get to the magic 100bhp

5th October 2007, 23:57

excellent guide here mate. would this be the same with moving the oil filter if i was to put a standard mark 1 manifold onto my mark 2? cheers

6th October 2007, 14:13

i would of fort so, but y would you want to do that m8?

6th October 2007, 14:28

great guide mate, just seems like such a pain in the arse to do! i thought it would be a case of unbolt old one, and then put the new one in its place lol

6th October 2007, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

i would of fort so, but y would you want to do that m8?

doing a turbo conversion and putting a mark 1 manifold on my mark 2

6th October 2007, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeFurio

great guide mate, just seems like such a pain in the arse to do! i thought it would be a case of unbolt old one, and then put the new one in its place lol

aslong as u make sure you have all the parts m8 its a piece of piss honestly, im no mechanic lol i fort fuk it il give it a go and it went fine havent had any problems yet. looks awesome aswel after a while...

you can see the lambda sensor on the far right attached to battery base, in my home made copper tube

8th October 2007, 22:09

This might be a stupid question but does the M10 screw have to be a certain length and can it have a head on it, or does it need to be one like the one pictured in the guide?

8th October 2007, 22:15

not a stupid question m8.... ummm i think around a inch will do give or take a bit, cant remeber the exact length. just cut the head off and saw into it to make a slit so you can use a screw driver as it needs to be flush for the mk1 oil filter to fit on, hope that helps

8th October 2007, 22:19

u just need an m10 bolt well thats all i used and it was fine was about an inch or so long.... i actually thort the bolt head would of got in the way so i cut bolt head off and cut a slit in for a screwdriver but when i got it all off there was plenty of room so just used a normal m10 bolt

8th October 2007, 22:22

Ok thanks! I can try it with the bolt head on and if it doesn't fit I'll get the saw out!

8th October 2007, 22:24

gdgd lol if you look at the mk1 filter it needs the space inside so i would cut it off m8

8th October 2007, 22:55

well i just used a normal bolt and it was miles away... only fitted it on saturday... infact we fitted 2 as my mate got the same manifold

8th October 2007, 22:56

ok lol fair enuf

8th October 2007, 22:56

1 other thing......watch it when u relocate your oil pressure sensor.... as both of ours, mine and (jonnyrud) snapped when we tightend the manifold on.... any1 else have this problem???

8th October 2007, 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

ok lol fair enuf

lol just saying so it would make it easier.... i also used this thread was really good guide mate

but when it came to blocking the return hole just used a bolt as it seemed there was plenty of space!!! still cant fault the guide tho!!

9th October 2007, 00:14

ye i melted my sensor on the manifold lol had a m8 from peugeot bodge it and it works fine lol. a mk1 sensor wud prob b fine. thanks m8

i found that nuffin rely helped wen i needed info so fort id make 1

9th October 2007, 00:25

ive got a question for you. cause i don`t have a clue about this one. where you put the oil sensor thing on the engine block i won`t be able to do that cause im doing a turbo conversion. and where you put the oil sensor am gonna be putting the oil feed there. so what do i do about the sensor. can i just tie it up out the way?

9th October 2007, 00:29

hmm well mine is only pocking out a lil bit as i melted it off. the wire is new wire that we soldered upto the sensor wire ends inside the plastic of the sensor, and wrapped this in foil to protect it and its fine, its v close to the engine block now so should be ok if your having a turbo. do u mean thathole you want to have the oil feed going into it??

9th October 2007, 00:36

yeah mate that is the hole for the oil feed that i will be using so there won`t be a place for the oil sensor thing. so wondering where i could put it. or do i even need it

9th October 2007, 00:41

i think u need it, i was thinkin you could make a pipe that screws in the hole thats got a hole in it on the side which you could screw the sensor into, but on the end of the pipe have oil feed? what you think?

9th October 2007, 00:42

i hope this isn't as difficult as im making it seem lol mi hoping to fit one on monday lol. Is there anyway of making 100% sure i need a MK1 oil filter, if i went and took a pic of mine now would someone be able to tell?

9th October 2007, 00:43

you mean like an adapter for the 2 to go into then into the hole?

9th October 2007, 00:44

baz if u take a pic il stay online and tell u 2nite m8

ye a adapter m8

9th October 2007, 00:45

ok i'll be back in a momento

9th October 2007, 00:45

lol ok m8

9th October 2007, 00:46

thats some good thinking mate. have some rep. i rated this thread yesterday for you to. cheers for the help

9th October 2007, 00:47

lol not a problem m8

i think it could be possible to make aswell. fanku need any more ideas im your man haha lol

9th October 2007, 00:48

cheers bud ill let you know how it goes. cheers again

9th October 2007, 00:54

i can't see shit out there, and i can't think of where the hell the filter is lmao

9th October 2007, 00:57

will be at the front m8 lol like a big canister thing. if its pointing up towards you when you find it, which it should be on a mk2 furio, then you will need the mk1 filter m8 with the adapter etc. but if its pointing towards the front bumper coming straight off the engine block, then its a mk1 filter already and you wont need to move anything i would of fort. hope that helps when its brighter out lol

9th October 2007, 00:59

left side of the manifold yes?

funny thing is i recall seeing is numerous times when changing exhaust etc just can't seem to see it from the engine bay or from the side by the wheel lmao. sure i used to be able to see it through my mesh till i fitted that VTS Rad

9th October 2007, 01:00

yer mk2 should be right side, and mk1 left side i am fairly certain m8

9th October 2007, 01:05

i'll go pop outside and take a few pictures and see what i come back with

9th October 2007, 01:06

Just found these if they help m8

Mk1 Filter Fitted...

Mk2 Filter Fitted...

9th October 2007, 01:13

o

the black thing is the oil filter? yes.

well yeh thats where mine is

must of been my mate MK1 filter that i kept seeing haha

9th October 2007, 01:14

ok m8 lol ps i want to do my front bumper like yours, did it cost you much, did u have it resprayed once u cut the bits out??

ye its the black thing m8, owell its not to much hassle dw

9th October 2007, 01:18

cost me £300 forr de-locking, front bumper wide mouth, rear jet wash smoothed and dimma grille smoothed in.

Front bumper will need respraying yes. But when you cut the slats there will be holes left which have been filled by parts of the slats stuck back in place then filled. So i was told

9th October 2007, 01:19

o ok m8 i get it i mite give mine ago soon, and see if i can get away with it lol if not get my m8 to spray it

9th October 2007, 01:20

there is no way you will get away without respraying if you wanna do it properly

9th October 2007, 11:24

where do i get this M10 Tap and a M10 Screw from??

9th October 2007, 12:03

ye i know what u mean, il try source another bumper

umm prob wickes,b&q,maybe halfords, i duno rely, i got mine sorted by my m8 who works for peugeot, he had a loads of taps different sizes and made me up a bolt

12th October 2007, 01:57

sorry to bump this up again....but the M10 tap is basically to make a thread in the hole and the bolt is to block the hole right?

12th October 2007, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

sorry to bump this up again....but the M10 tap is basically to make a thread in the hole and the bolt is to block the hole right?

yeah mate thats right

12th October 2007, 14:55

sorted it this afternoon, got the Tap and Bolt :d just need shitroen to tell me the insert and bolt have arrived, collect it and collect the manifold :d wooo

13th October 2007, 17:00

ye wat steviet sed

lol gd lad get some pics up when its done m8

13th October 2007, 17:11

finchyssaxo. mind we were talking about some sort off an adaptor for my oil sensor thing. well i looked into it and i can get one for about 6quid from demon tweeks. so problem solved. cheers bud

14th October 2007, 02:00

im gonna have to go into shitroen on monday and demand the parts they have ordered, should of rang me thursday....

14th October 2007, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by steviet

finchyssaxo. mind we were talking about some sort off an adaptor for my oil sensor thing. well i looked into it and i can get one for about 6quid from demon tweeks. so problem solved. cheers bud

ah gdgd m8 let me know when you put some pics up, im interested on how and what you do

14th October 2007, 11:51

will do mate.

16th October 2007, 14:45

Ok, I have just ordered my manifold from kam. Rang up citroen and have ordered those 3 part numbers at the bottom of the guide. Is that all I will need apart from an M10 bolt and tap?? Im getting a little confused now!

16th October 2007, 20:28

yes m8 that is what you will need and the new gasket and bolts if u want to change them well gasket is recommend to change, ive kept the old bolts there fine

21st October 2007, 20:57

Thats a awesome guide i have just got a 4-1 manifold for my vtr cant w8 to get it fitted nw

21st October 2007, 21:13

thanks m8 if u need any questions answered just ask

23rd October 2007, 20:46

Bought all the parts need to fit this earlier so thought I'd post all the numbers up here. Also I think some of the numbers have changed since they were posted before.

Oil Filter Insert // KL1103A7 // £1.88 + Vat
MK1 Oil Filter // KL1109T1 // £7.66 + Vat
Big Bolt for attaching manifold to gearbox // KL210314 // £1.70 + Vat
Manifold Gasket // KL349K1 // £2.35 + Vat
Manifold Studs // 35566 // £0.14 + Vat
Manifold Nuts // 34122 // £0.53 + Vat

7th November 2007, 18:38

i dont no weather or not to do this im scared of messing it up tbh

7th November 2007, 19:55

is your car a 1.1 m8??

8th November 2007, 09:19

Finchy m8 can you try and get a picture up this weekend of the sleeve? Cheers m8!

8th November 2007, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

is your car a 1.1 m8??

YES IT IS

8th November 2007, 10:55

it shouldent make any difference should it its an 8valve so its same as 1.4 and vtr

8th November 2007, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders0n

Bought all the parts need to fit this earlier so thought I'd post all the numbers up here. Also I think some of the numbers have changed since they were posted before.

Oil Filter Insert // KL1103A7 // £1.88 + Vat
MK1 Oil Filter // KL1109T1 // £7.66 + Vat
Big Bolt for attaching manifold to gearbox // KL210314 // £1.70 + Vat
Manifold Gasket // KL349K1 // £2.35 + Vat
Manifold Studs // 35566 // £0.14 + Vat
Manifold Nuts // 34122 // £0.53 + Vat

Anders0n have you fitted your manifold? Any problems?

8th November 2007, 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliC

Anders0n have you fitted your manifold? Any problems?

Nope should be fitted this weekend, I'll let you know then.

8th November 2007, 20:17

Legend! anser to my problems, spot on guide

8th November 2007, 21:26

Just to confirm, which sensor screws into the manifold and which one goes into the sleeve? Asking because it says one thing in the guide and another later in the thread...

Also Finchy could you take a close up picture of your copper sleeve please?

8th November 2007, 21:29

the sensor which is on the top of your manifold gois in your new manifold and the sensor after your cat converter goes in a sleeve

8th November 2007, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc_safc

the sensor which is on the top of your manifold gois in your new manifold and the sensor after your cat converter goes in a sleeve

Cheers mate.

9th November 2007, 18:14

pics will be up this weekend of the sleeve sorry lads

richhyg - you need to speak to graham (kam racing) as i fink it is different spacing between the pipes as some1 before was going to fit 1 to their 1.1, dont take my word for it but check first with graham(kam racing)

11th November 2007, 18:38

Got a pic of the sleeve then finchy?

11th November 2007, 18:39

i think ive got a pic of the copper sleeve if anyone wants one

11th November 2007, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc_safc

i think ive got a pic of the copper sleeve if anyone wants one

Post it up batman!

11th November 2007, 18:44

i wrappe some electrician tape round it just to seal it properly

11th November 2007, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc_safc

i wrappe some electrician tape round it just to seal it properly

Ahh right that looks easy. Is the end just left open?

11th November 2007, 18:57

yeah its just left open to let clean air in

11th November 2007, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc_safc

yeah its just left open to let clean air in

Nice one. Cheers mate

I'll throw a bit of rep your way aswell.

11th November 2007, 19:09

haha very good mate i was about to post mine up aswell, il pop it up later, i gota pop out

13th November 2007, 19:35

help me

13th November 2007, 20:58

can anyone tell me what hole is for? what does it do?

13th November 2007, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by richhyg

can anyone tell me what hole is for? what does it do?

That's the oil return hole, it needs to be blocked off when using a MK1 oil filter.

14th November 2007, 15:56

yer hes got it in one, if you do not block it up when you turn on your engine it will piss out oil, i found this out as i wanted to tst things when i put the manifold and mk1 filter on

14th November 2007, 17:09

so i take it that there is no problems with blocking the return hole?

15th November 2007, 11:39

no problem at all so far from my car m8, i havent herd of anyone having problems

15th November 2007, 13:11

ok cheers, but once i tap a thread into that oil return how will the shitty mk2 filter go back on because it will need to be put back for mot purpose surely because of emisions

15th November 2007, 13:12

+ rep for that mate

15th November 2007, 14:56

because you are only cuttin a thread in, it should never effect the oil return if you put back on you mk2 oil filter. as you will remove the m10 tap that you have screwed in. Thanks m8

15th November 2007, 15:12

the halo lights i mite sell mine they are 3month old and are chrome mk2, how much u wanna pay?

15th November 2007, 17:02

orite klkl well im after black 1's preferably but if you can find proof that i can take them apart and do the inside black like i have with my other 1's i mite have them off you m8

17th November 2007, 22:53

ok i have had problems with my phone over the last two weeks sony currently have it to fix it

so my spare phone i took some photos of the sleeve as requested. they are not great but owell, wen i get my k800i back il get some better 1's up.

The Sleeve attached to the battery base..

Close up of the copper Sleeve where i have cut it so locks onto the lambda sensor..

And where it is located in the engine bay..

Hope that helps guys, well worth making your own, than spending out £25 quid. I mite even make a load and sell them if people would like some...?

Finchy

19th November 2007, 13:47

my manifold is on thanks to this guy

see my progress thread people!!!!

19th November 2007, 13:49

gdgd m8 im glad to hear it i will have a look now

19th November 2007, 18:42

Anyone who has fitted this to their mk2 VTR, did you notice the pic of the oil return hole is slightly different? On mine it's further to the right..

Also what's everyone done with the oil pressure sensor?

19th November 2007, 20:35

i think m8 if you read my guide properly from the beginning you will find that i have talked through what to do with the oil pressure sensor...lol

if the oil return is further to the right it shudnt matter one bit

19th November 2007, 20:44

Good job finchy with the sensor! Having mine fitted this weekend using your guide so once again big thanks!

19th November 2007, 20:49

not a problem m8, if you want me to make you a sleeve just ask il charge 10quid posted lol

19th November 2007, 20:51

lol dont worry, think i can give that one a go myself!

19th November 2007, 20:53

ok lol worth a try haha

19th November 2007, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

i think m8 if you read my guide properly from the beginning you will find that i have talked through what to do with the oil pressure sensor...lol

I have read you guide 'properly' thanks.

You say it goes into a hole in the engine block but it melted so you had to rebuild it to make it smaller. Have we got to rebuild it? If so how on earth is that done?

19th November 2007, 22:27

lol ok m8 well you can either let it melt and come in two pieces and it will be shorter and wire the ends up. or i think a mk1 sensor is shorter and wont melt upto you. i didnt no wat u ment

19th November 2007, 22:28

i found when i tightend the manifold on it snapped my oil sensor lol so going to get a mk1 sensor when i get round to it

19th November 2007, 22:29

would it fit a mk1 1.0? my exhuast is dying so am thinking of replacing it.

19th November 2007, 22:34

i think so m8 as if you read page 6, richhyg has fitted one to his and its a 1.1 or 1.0 so i guess it must fit fine

19th November 2007, 23:12

will defo fit your 1.1 any 1.4 or vtr one will fit, mines a 1.1 and fit fine but i had 2 relocated the oil filter etc you wont have to on a mark1 unless your cat is on the manifold but i dont think it is

19th November 2007, 23:13

i brought mine off sum 1 with a vtr, so now i jus have rear backbox to silence its very loud and sounds mint

19th November 2007, 23:17

Thats where my sensor is Finchy, however its not in a sleeve, just cabled tied to the battery holder lol

19th November 2007, 23:17

hi view my raceland video
http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/c...nifoldtest.flv

20th November 2007, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

Thats where my sensor is Finchy, however its not in a sleeve, just cabled tied to the battery holder lol

lol its the best location baz

would you like to sell me your front bumper haha love it

25th November 2007, 18:21

Got this fitted today, sounds absolutely lush!

Got a prob though... the top sensor that goes into the hole at the bottom on the raceland doesn't quite reach. Did you lot extend it or am I missing something?

Also when it came to putting the bolt back in the gearbox, the holes didn't line up by about 10mm, I tried to line them up but the manifold wasn't having any of it. Atm I've just left it out as the manifold feels very sturdy as isn't going anywhere. Did anyone else have this problem?

Cheers

25th November 2007, 19:55

see when you remove the oil pressure sensor to the middle off the block. what size is the hole in the block ?cause i was thinking off putting mines down by the oil filter where you put the m10 screw. or is the sensor to big for that? if it is to big is there much off a diffrence in size? could it be easily bored out a bit? anyone know? cheers

26th November 2007, 12:33

the hole where iv shown you to put the sensor is where its on mk1 engines originally, so its perfect for it, upto you if you want to put it somewhere else just duno if it will work m8

26th November 2007, 12:34

anders0n have you put the cable round the back of the engine as that should reach fine that way m8.

some people have had problems with it lining up, i think you should try giving the bit on the manifold a lil smack to bend it in the right way as then there is less movement in the exhaust. my bolt fell out once and it made such a noise cuz of the movement

26th November 2007, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

anders0n have you put the cable round the back of the engine as that should reach fine that way m8.

some people have had problems with it lining up, i think you should try giving the bit on the manifold a lil smack to bend it in the right way as then there is less movement in the exhaust. my bolt fell out once and it made such a noise cuz of the movement

Yep tried the cable round the back but it wouldn't reach. I'll just extend it with some speaker wire or something, then tape it all up neatly.

As for the the bolt, the manifold really isn't going anywhere, feels solid as anything. I'll try a mate pushing on it from the front, but I don't hold much hope.

Cheers

26th November 2007, 20:12

anderson how did you go about your oil pressure sensor mate??? as i said before mine snapped when i tightend the manifold on because it pushed against it......or did u get a mk1 oil pressure sensor??

26th November 2007, 20:51

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Originally Posted by marc_safc

anderson how did you go about your oil pressure sensor mate??? as i said before mine snapped when i tightend the manifold on because it pushed against it......or did u get a mk1 oil pressure sensor??

Left it out and tie wrapped it to the top rad hose lol

Luckily that's just a temporary measure. When I lined the manifold up for a trial fit I noticed the hole where the pressure sensor goes is easily accessible whilst the manifold is on, so I left it out for now until I get a plug spanner.

When it comes to putting it in I'll just rebuild it to make it smaller, looks easily enough.

26th November 2007, 23:05

Wish this was a striaght forward job! Keep it posted on the final product then Anders0n!

26th November 2007, 23:18

thing is ali it is a straight forward job you just need to plan ahead and make sure you have all the parts and it will be fine trust me m8

26th November 2007, 23:26

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Originally Posted by AliC

Wish this was a striaght forward job! Keep it posted on the final product then Anders0n!

Check my progress thread mate, I've posted a little vid in there of how it sounds. It's a camera phone video so not the best. I'll be doing one with a proper video camera when I get a chance.

It's well worth the hassle mate, the sound is just sexual.

27th November 2007, 11:02

Yea i no what you mean, ive got everthing new that could and can be used when fitting the new manifold so it shouldnt be a problem plus the guy doing it is amazin when it comes to making things work!

27th November 2007, 11:59

exactly m8 u cant go wrong then lol

28th November 2007, 16:14

Tell me this finchy, abit of the subject but can i take my orignal lights out and spray them black insde?

28th November 2007, 16:21

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Originally Posted by AliC

Tell me this finchy, abit of the subject but can i take my orignal lights out and spray them black insde?

you mean like this in the guide below??

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47845

28th November 2007, 16:49

aw cheers m8!

28th November 2007, 17:59

yes you can m8 its very easy a very worth while mod, makes a huge difference

29th November 2007, 10:16

Yea, im thinking of getting the wheels done in black, then black the lights out and maybe spray all the mesh black will see how it goes? Bring on santa lol

29th November 2007, 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliC

Yea, im thinking of getting the wheels done in black, then black the lights out and maybe spray all the mesh black will see how it goes? Bring on santa lol

get a photoshop done off what your wanting to see what it will look like

29th November 2007, 12:43

black is the way forward

photoshop boys will sort you out m8

5th December 2007, 23:14

finchy mate. that m10 tap was solid. took me and ma mate about 40mins to do it. all done now though. cheers

5th December 2007, 23:17

40 mins lol it took me about 2 mins to tap that hole.... i used a socket set wrench instead of the proppa tool was a bit easier

5th December 2007, 23:19

never thought off that. we use the stupid tool thing. it was hard to get into it to push

5th December 2007, 23:21

i found that aswell....its just hard to get started thats all.... youve gota take it 1 full turn in then half a turn back out to get rid of the metal shavings

5th December 2007, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc_safc

i found that aswell....its just hard to get started thats all.... youve gota take it 1 full turn in then half a turn back out to get rid of the metal shavings

totally agree with you there mate.

6th December 2007, 09:35

i cant believe how much more of a job to do it is on the mk2s mk1s are so much easier

7th December 2007, 10:54

lol im still waiting to get mine fitted! My m8 told me to throw it down to him today so fingers crossed!

7th December 2007, 12:14

ye the m10 tap'ing didnt take me long at all bout 10minutes max, kept cleaning the hole out thow.

lol you are taking your time ali, get it on m8, you'll soon see how much nicer it is

7th December 2007, 22:49

I know Finchy, the car is down at my m8's tonite so if its not done tomorrow it'l be done by sunday! Will let you know how it goes pal?

7th December 2007, 22:50

Sorry forgot to add Finchy, big big thanks for the thread, great help pal, owe ya one!

8th December 2007, 00:57

klkl get it done in the end?? thats alrite m8 glad i could be of some help

mine got some ragging tonight shud be glowing lol

8th December 2007, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

klkl get it done in the end?? thats alrite m8 glad i could be of some help

mine got some ragging tonight shud be glowing lol

Lol love it!

10th December 2007, 17:48

Can anyone tell me, does the dip stick need to be moved? And if it does i take it, t doesnt hit the manifold? Cheers!

10th December 2007, 17:52

don`t think you touch it at all. in the pictures in the guide its in the same place

10th December 2007, 17:59

Yea but when i went to fit mine there the dip stick was in the way? Because the manifold has to sit against the block the dip stick i think might need moved?

10th December 2007, 18:04

it just twists and pulls out.

10th December 2007, 18:08

Undo the dip stick from the attachment to the engine block, and then you have to slide it between the pips i think thats what i did, il check.....

Yer slide it between the pipes and its fine. Or you could remove it all together while you fit the manifold and then slide it back into hole at the base of the engine (at top of oil filter area) either way will work.

10th December 2007, 18:09

oh aye. forgot about the bolt that holds it on. ive just done it to lol. glad your here to keep us right finchy. cheers

10th December 2007, 18:19

hahaha lol not a problem, some1 has to haha lol

10th December 2007, 18:43

top guide

10th December 2007, 18:45

thanks m8

11th December 2007, 11:14

Finchy, did you have any problems with oil pressure light when you had finished? Mine has been on for about 5 weeks now and oil pressure light is still on. The sensor and wire is all good, and not melted.

Does it have anything to do with changing the size of the filter etc?

11th December 2007, 13:49

i didnt have any problems even thow i melted the sensor. i wud say ur best bet is to buy a new sensor as that will tell you that everything is fine.

when i made the guide and fitted my manifold i drove up the road with the wrong hole tapped, i had so little power, the light was on, and when i open my bonnet the oil breather on top of engine was smoking! not a wise move but it was trial and error lol. as soon as i tapped the right hole the light hasnt been on since

11th December 2007, 14:39

wrong hole tapped? You talking about the m10 one? Thats the only hole i tapped.

Also since fitting it, my handbrake/brake fluid light has been on! Cant figure out why tho?!

11th December 2007, 14:40

Thts Weird

11th December 2007, 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerdusk

wrong hole tapped? You talking about the m10 one? Thats the only hole i tapped.

Also since fitting it, my handbrake/brake fluid light has been on! Cant figure out why tho?!

ye the m10 1, well if you blocked the bottom hole in the pic ul find out its nt v gd, if u followed the guide uve blocked the right 1 so dw lol.

wat has happened 2 yours is quite strange m8. does it run ok???

11th December 2007, 16:38

it does kinda run ok, last week it sounded as though it was only running on 3 but think I was just being paranoid. It sounds as though the tappets are banging quite a bit, but just not sure tbh

11th December 2007, 16:47

i think mt tappets shud be done soon. but should be getting red of car soon. if the lights are annoying you m8, go to your local garage or citroen and get it fault code read (whatever its called) my m8 has one so when i have problems i ask him to do a check

11th December 2007, 17:03

surely this guide should be in the stickys. ignore me if it is already.

11th December 2007, 17:15

na dont think it is yet m8

14th December 2007, 00:11

Great thread, very useful, should be a sticky!!

May sound thick, i've got a phase 2 vts, do i need to move the oil fiter as it seems to be miles away from the manifold???

Sorry for being dumb! lol

14th December 2007, 00:13

nope you don't

14th December 2007, 00:14

thanks m8, ye wat baz sed lol he beat me to it haha

14th December 2007, 11:25

I don't? MINT!!!!!!!! Nice one lads cheers

14th December 2007, 13:49

No oil filter moving on vts m8 lol thats alrite

21st December 2007, 13:50

Finchy got the manifold fitted thank god, will post some pic's u l8er! Thanks again m8 , the only problem now is how loud the bloody thing is lol!!

21st December 2007, 14:00

i got my raceland today should be fitting later today just hope the lambda reaches to the manifold

21st December 2007, 21:13

alic bout bloody time lol ye get some pics up m8, nice and raspy 4 ya lol

liam_b should fit fine m8, aslong as the cable goes round the back of the engine, any problems let me know, il try help you out

22nd December 2007, 14:08

is there any other place to get the oil filter adapter as all citroen garages near me are full of muppets!

23rd December 2007, 21:58

not that im aware of, but im sure if u ask someone on here they will go get u 1

23rd December 2007, 22:05

i would have given them the part numbers like, but i put them on my phone and the battery went dead. No doubt!

Will go in with the part numbers and if that fails I will tap someone up from here to acquire the mechandise! lol

23rd December 2007, 22:07

my citroen is pretty poor luckily havent visited the in ages thow, just go in with numbers say nothing to them, pay the money and walk out, once u start tlkin 2 them they dont no wat to do, when i described to the parts man what i was doing, he said i was mad and very brave ha

25th December 2007, 20:01

[QUOTE=FinchysSaxo;1722817]alic bout bloody time lol ye get some pics up m8, nice and raspy 4 ya lol

M8, you have no idea how loud and raspy my car is now! It's abit too loud but still sounds the part! Was out early this morning at an empty car park lifting the old wound, so will try and get pic's and a vid up within the next day or to! Merry crimbo everyone!

25th December 2007, 21:21

lol do u have a open filter or enclosed?? gd lad let me know wen u get some pics up.

Merry Christmas Everyone aswel

26th December 2007, 23:09

lol its well funny at main dealer

26th December 2007, 23:11

well when i went i said can i have an oilfilter so they gave me a mk2 cos they seen me pull up in mine so then i say no thats not the one it screws on, then the parts man argues with me so i show him the car that its a screw on one and he nearly had a heart attack lol hahahahaha

26th December 2007, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by richhyg

well when i went i said can i have an oilfilter so they gave me a mk2 cos they seen me pull up in mine so then i say no thats not the one it screws on, then the parts man argues with me so i show him the car that its a screw on one and he nearly had a heart attack lol hahahahaha

lol mate. he most likely thinking he needs to start looking into getting a new job