barry123's VTS - Lightweight flywheel & quaife 21/04/12 #1035

  1. #1
    The VTS of barry123.

    From this....


    to this:



    Timeline:
    Previous owner's (Mark) arty shot...
    22/11/08
    Bought car

    28/11/08
    1st Picture of my ownership (courtesy of my girlfriend):

    06/12/08
    Home in Northallerton:


    1st mod(?)
    Just put my trusty MD headunit back in


    Mothersayer sampling the 'S

    27/12/08
    JBL GT5027c components fitted
    Pioneer co-axials fitted

    28/12/08
    Complete front light bulb replacement (Super Brilliance H1, Super Brilliance H7, Silvertec 581's and White LED 501's)

    03/01/09
    Apex lowering kit (25mm) arrives

    14/01/09
    Magnex Back Box is coming (courtesy of mr Jaybiss)
    My spare VTS wheels are off to be Powder Coated - Silver

    18/01/09
    the saxo was RR'd today




    136.9hp at the fly, which is clearly rubbish... but pay close attention to the wheel power... 98.9 hp, which is about right for a good running standard VTS

    Magnex BB... I can assure you it is a Magnex backbox in the pic lol. Lee has kindly offered to give me his Magnex centre section too... woooo
    25/01/09
    Lee_VTR1 very kindly gave me his Magnex centre section so I took a quick trip to Nuneaton to catch up with Alex, Lee, Willsy and Aaron to get the Centre Section and Back box fitted

    Whilst I was there Alex sold me his Powerflex lower engine mount... so so so much better than standard it rocks.

    Pics when it's light (wednesday)
    05/02/09
    New grille from a Desire... woooo


    Also my powdercoated VTS rims came back last week... these are Yates' (also done at the same time) but they're in the same colour to give you an idea!


    10/02/09
    Raceland Manidfold is coming...


    26/02/09
    Grille fitted!

    Before:


    After:


    Just got the car back from Andy (Luthor1) from Datashift who's developing the 3-plug Predator... My car ran on the Predator!!!

    08/03/09
    Raceland fitted, and what a fucking ball ache it was too.



    Car feels slightly slower(?) and a tad noiser

    might be getting removed if it keeps this up...
    21/03/09
    266mm Calipers arrive (Cheers AlexR) and did a quick pic - mucho thanks to the chineasy security guard who let me bugger around in his company's car park

    wooo


    and did this a little earlier

    04/04/09
    Quick pic with my pals


    06/04/09
    EZR'd VTS rimz fitted


    07/04/09
    Delivery! Polyrace Front Wishbone Bushes, Polyrace Rear Beam Bushes and 266mm Maxtorq discs!


    10/04/09
    PolyRace Rear Bushes fitted!

    16/04/09
    Lowering springs, dampers, polyrace front bushes & GTI Brakes fitted





    yay

    21/04/09
    Track Pics - From Brands









    25/04/09
    Austec Rolling Roaded (again)
    137.3hp


    So theoretical fly power has remained the same, still wrong imo. But wheel power has risen to 104.1... so around 5 hp increase. I presume manifold contributed more to that than backbox. But all in all, good stuff!
  2. #2
    18/05/09
    new clutch arrived

    da cluch.


    Did a few things at the weekend (nothing major)...
    before:


    after

    02/06/09

    right boyz.... late this evening my new shoes arrived for the paxo, not your usual shitty proxies...



    huge arse gap


    paxo has gone to K M Design in Darlo for a few bits and bobs done to it.

    should be back friday, saturday or monday
    06/06/09
    Michy's fitted! you've all see a tyre on a wheel so no pic...

    other stuff...

    degrilled!


    debadged!


    delocked!


    deaerialed!


    and according to my girlfriend i'm now 'degirlfriended' because I've spent too much time on the car




    17/10/09
    new head unit!

    Alpine 9885r

    Pic!

    26/03/10
    ITG Maxogen arrives




    28/03/10
    ITG Maxogen fitted



    26/03/10
    ITG Maxogen arrives




    15/06/10
    Correct parts for the Saxo ITG Maxogen arrive!




    24/08/10
    Ok did a few things whilst I took the car off the road...
    Old injectors, sent to injectortune...


    This is how they came back... Amazing.


    Report from the cleaning cycle:


    turns out that they were roughly around 93% of max... so back up to max they've gained roughly 7.5% more flow than previously.
    24/09/10
    SORNed it - back in uni accommodation and have no where to park it
    05/04/11
    Powerflex ARB Bushes fitted
    Three new ABS sensors fitted
    Front offside arch resprayed
    Morettes sold, standard lights fitted
    TRS competition driveshafts fitted
    Exact braided brake lines fitted-ish (see link)
    18/09/11
    BTB exhaust system fitted
    20/10/11
  3. #3
    Niiiiiiiccce
    Few notes chucked at the suspension and the wheel colour and she'll be lovely.
  4. #4
    Is this the one from around here mate?
  5. #5
    can see why you wanted to have your standard s rims now dude!

    Doesnt appear to have been gayed up to badly. I mean its not on its arse because some tool had it before.
  6. #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Niiiiiiiccce
    Few notes chucked at the suspension and the wheel colour and she'll be lovely.
    think suspension will remain standard tbh dude. handles pretty nicely at the moment wheels do need a change I feel though

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Danr View Post
    Is this the one from around here mate?
    yeah boi.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    can see why you wanted to have your standard s rims now dude!

    Doesnt appear to have been gayed up to badly. I mean its not on its arse because some tool had it before.
    It's got morettes on the front... which I didn't like but they're starting to grow on me massively
  7. #7
    The lad who owned it is a good lad. Bought my old vtrrrr alloys off me.

    Have you got it in Guildford? Wouldn't mind coming and smashing it up a bit. We can also cuddle if you want? Maybe spoon a little?
  8. #8
    morrettes are cool dude on the right shell.

    Im a fan of them, hence why a few years back was gonna get some carbon ones made for me
  9. #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Danr View Post
    The lad who owned it is a good lad. Bought my old vtrrrr alloys off me.

    Have you got it in Guildford? Wouldn't mind coming and smashing it up a bit. We can also cuddle if you want? Maybe spoon a little?
    Mark is a top lad, I wish him well.

    yes to all three... get your pie ass down it's over in hazel farm at the moment (know the place?)
  10. #10
    Not a clue buddy... up Onslow Way?

    What are you doing this evening? I could come sex after work?
  11. #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Danr View Post
    Not a clue buddy... up Onslow Way?

    What are you doing this evening? I could come sex after work?
    GF's birthday mate... no can do.

    Hazel farm is up Hamilton Drive/Road near Esporta

    we could have sexy time tomorrow?
  12. #12
    Hamilton Drive? Nocomprende?

    GF's birthday? Which lady is this you speak of?

    I will see, party tomorrow night in Guildford though. If it's kicking off and there's loads of clunge you can come play.
  13. #13
    oregano close... That area that's named after fucking herbs and shit.
  14. #14
    Spice city

    Where abouts? (Sorry for ruining your thread)
  15. #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Danr View Post
    Spice city

    Where abouts? (Sorry for ruining your thread)
    tis ok. I'm pm'd ryan asking for you to be banned anyhow.
    where abouts? u shitting me right?? I've just told you!!!
  16. #16
    No you prick, where abouts in the road? Carpark? Where i met you before?
  17. #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Danr View Post
    No you prick, where abouts in the road? Carpark? Where i met you before?
    yeah there abouts... I've detailed the whereabouts of my car to the world now.
  18. #18
    very nice mate, what happened to bodykitting the old derv though lol
    did you take your pug interior out of it and stick in the vts
  19. #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    yeah there abouts... I've detailed the whereabouts of my car to the world now.
    I'll leave a note on the window babe.
    x
  20. #20
    Saxo with standard suspension.
    Sayer,
    dont do this to me or the Sax-P community.
    Please lower it.
    1 user thanked this post:
  21. #21
    I never thought I'd see the day when you got rid of your Derv machine.

    Fair play though mate, will be mint.
  22. #22
    Yes Sayer!

    As said, a good service, wheels and possibly susp. and leave.

    A CAT1 alarm too.

    That's all it needs

    VTSayer tbh.

    PS - More pics please.....
  23. #23
    Looks really smart that mate, is it a VTS though?
    I think its the derv with a VT kit on

    A few subtle touches and it'll look mint.
  24. #24
    nice car good luck with the rest off it chap
  25. #25
    looks tidy and if you decide to get rid of the morettes i'll buy them off you our lass is after a set for her saxo
  26. #26
    well well mr sayer a proper car
  27. #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    morrettes are cool dude on the right shell.

    Im a fan of them, hence why a few years back was gonna get some carbon ones made for me
    ummmm fair play... I'm in two minds at the moment... technically they still belong to mark, but I can't change them until he hands over the light trims and get an auto electrician out to rewire them again... which could be a while...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jungle_Jim View Post
    very nice mate, what happened to bodykitting the old derv though lol
    did you take your pug interior out of it and stick in the vts
    I still have the bodykit dude... must sell it when I get a chance to pop up to Sayer Towers. I sold the gti interior, loving the standard S seats... yummy.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Saxo with standard suspension.
    Sayer,
    dont do this to me or the Sax-P community.
    Please lower it.
    noooo chance brother.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    I never thought I'd see the day when you got rid of your Derv machine.

    Fair play though mate, will be mint.
    well the derv machine would still be here if it had been a tad more reliable. engine was and still is great but everything else was causing me issues

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamsax View Post
    Yes Sayer!

    As said, a good service, wheels and possibly susp. and leave.

    A CAT1 alarm too.

    That's all it needs

    VTSayer tbh.

    PS - More pics please.....
    It comes with an alarm dude... is the standard one gash though??? Good service is soooo on the cards... can't wait for it to get inspected properly.

    pics will be soooon!!!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thadogg View Post
    Looks really smart that mate, is it a VTS though?
    I think its the derv with a VT kit on


    A few subtle touches and it'll look mint.
    Actually the engine is coming out and I'm sticking a 1.5D engine in instead

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by maxo View Post
    nice car good luck with the rest off it chap
    cheers dude.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SteVTR View Post
    looks tidy and if you decide to get rid of the morettes i'll buy them off you our lass is after a set for her saxo
    as above dude... they're not mine really.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR View Post
    well well mr sayer a proper car
    my 1.5D was a proper car.... this is just my occasional pimping wagon
  28. #28
    congrats again sayer

    great looking car. get the standard VTS rims on it ASAP!!

    make it looks like matt's as much as you can

    you changing the exhaust?

    im working on ViperVTS as much as i can! lol
  29. #29
    pimping aint easy
  30. #30
    Mate I still can't believe you've got one!

    Good times.
  31. #31
    dont look too bad mate
    knowing you itll end up quite a nice car

    not really a fan of the 2 tones but they can look pretty nice done right
  32. #32
    heard about this last night when with matt and tom taking pics in Newcastle...i remember you mentioning it to me and Luke as well at the services before the meet in Durham. Glad you followed it up mate...

    agreed with the majority...bring us more pics
  33. #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Viper View Post
    you changing the exhaust?

    im working on ViperVTS as much as i can! lol
    standard engine as much as possible until a decent 3 plug solution is found for camming.

    good luck with hunting one down

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR View Post
    pimping aint easy
    I'm adsayer... it's piss.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamsax View Post
    Mate I still can't believe you've got one!

    Good times.
    whoooo it's like the old skool crew are all heading to the VTSideeee

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    dont look too bad mate
    knowing you itll end up quite a nice car

    not really a fan of the 2 tones but they can look pretty nice done right
    hopefully man get £3.5k next wednesday... party time.
  34. #34
    shwicked sayer

    lower it and stick 2 extra doors on.
  35. #35
    ahhh right well pick me up sometime i wanna go pimping with the big dawg lol
  36. #36
    Oh hai, Ooo. You haz 16v'z!!

    Looks alright that mate, standard S wheels might look abit better

    What mpg you getting out of it?
  37. #37
    gayboy - standard alarms are not to bad tbh, alexs seemed ok on his vts.

    I really should sort one for my new R lol!

    Ah so youve bought the car but the previous owner is going to retain the lights ja> I personally dont like vts seats, your leathers would have been lovely in there.
  38. #38
    sayer, its not a case of finding one. its more a case of persuading a certain father!
  39. #39
    Looking very nice ... loving Two Tones.

    Anthracite S Wheels will be awesome!
  40. #40
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    heard about this last night when with matt and tom taking pics in Newcastle...i remember you mentioning it to me and Luke as well at the services before the meet in Durham. Glad you followed it up mate...

    agreed with the majority...bring us more pics
    cheers man

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by liamk15 View Post
    shwicked sayer

    lower it and stick 2 extra doors on.
    hahhaaha

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR View Post
    ahhh right well pick me up sometime i wanna go pimping with the big dawg lol
    less space fo ho's then mate

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    Oh hai, Ooo. You haz 16v'z!!

    Looks alright that mate, standard S wheels might look abit better

    What mpg you getting out of it?
    45mpg first run. pow.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    gayboy - standard alarms are not to bad tbh, alexs seemed ok on his vts.

    I really should sort one for my new R lol!

    Ah so youve bought the car but the previous owner is going to retain the lights ja> I personally dont like vts seats, your leathers would have been lovely in there.
    he will do, but it could take forever getting them switched over, i need the trims before I can start the swapping process... he lives in london, the car will be based in northallerton all garaged up, the trims are in private storage somewhere so that could be an arse... then I've got to get the wiring sorted... again an arse... could take a long timeeeeeee

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Viper View Post
    sayer, its not a case of finding one. its more a case of persuading a certain father!
    impulse my friend... buy now, fuck the consequencessss

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fergie127 View Post
    Looking very nice ... loving Two Tones.

    Anthracite S Wheels will be awesome!
    cheers man I think so tooo
  41. #41
    Sayer has vts.... wtf!
  42. #42
    Nice one Adz! Thought you sold the derv because you weren't gonna need a car????

    Looks very nice though, but does need lowering
  43. #43
    Nurburgring '09?
  44. #44
    Looks pretty good akshually, u can haz 3 dorz.

    I've always wondered what VTS rims would look like in the same colour as the bottom half on a two tone, try it ftw?
  45. #45
    OOOh Sayer, Love the two tones get it how you want and im sure it will look great

    I bet you can get twice as much MPG out of that than I do mine
  46. #46
    will it be going on track next year?
  47. #47
    sayer wtf! i thought you were one of those economicalist people!x
  48. #48
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by suvvysaxo View Post
    sayer wtf! i thought you were one of those economicalist people!x
    lol just what i thought looks good though man! good upgrade
  49. #49
    nice man, been ages since i mentioned this was up for sale lol

    i told you at ring my wheels were gona go same colour as car, il just keep em silver now!

    lookin forward to the shoot with both of them

    when you next back up?
  50. #50
    vts rims?
    lowered?

    you want to be me...
  51. #51
  52. #52
    those lights and wheels have to go

    spray that grill up if your keepin it standard
  53. #53
    hmm im with the fat bald man.

    Wheels and lights dont look right how they are.
  54. #54
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    hmm im with the fat bald man.

    Wheels and lights dont look right how they are.
    im glad the lanky streak of ginger piss agrees with me
  55. #55
    VTDiseasal?



    Naiiice Mr Sayah
  56. #56
    first thing i would change would be the grill. then wheels, then lights

    get to it sayer!
  57. #57
    Id keep the lights and use two of the pods as induction holes, always thought that looked cool and its obviously a great cold air feed too. Would look mint lowered on anthracite VTS rims with std front lights, but its not different atall. But if your not after that thats cool. Look forward to seeing where you go with it mate
  58. #58
    nice car dude, tbh i ould just keep it standard looking, but i would lower it and colour code the vts alloys to the same colour as the bottom half of the vt kit.
  59. #59
    nice one mate

    car looks good, different with those lights on.
  60. #60
    dropping the main beam for cold air feeds imo isnt exactly great for a road car.

    espec as saxo lights are not exactly great anyway
  61. #61
    i would big mouth the lower bumper, mesh grill, ditch fog lights and mesh, strip interior, add some buckets, then add bmc, 708s, get a remap, fit catch tank, get some group n engine mounts, some group n billies, faulkner springs, xsi diff box with a quaiffe (for you ryan ) then look at standalone ecu, maybe some gti6 brakes as well, what about some chronos with r888s? waits for someone to say nah thats shit
  62. #62
    Standard lights Sayer.
  63. #63
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    i would big mouth the lower bumper, mesh grill, ditch fog lights and mesh, strip interior, add some buckets, then add bmc, 708s, get a remap, fit catch tank, get some group n engine mounts, some group n billies, faulkner springs, xsi diff box with a quaiffe (for you ryan ) then look at standalone ecu, maybe some gti6 brakes as well, what about some chronos with r888s? waits for someone to say nah thats shit
    thats a great idea yates, i wonder who you stole that from ? im sure its a another two tone vts plate says S4XOD.

    i could be wrong thow
  64. #64
    nice looking vts mate
  65. #65
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    If I say something I mean it dude
    Nice bodykit you had on your diesal Sayer, myabe you can put one on this too.

    Serious note, needs some tidying up but generally it looks ok
  66. #66
    Your not the same sayer now no Diesel lol!

    Lower it with anthracite wheels, Looks noiceeeeeee
  67. #67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Amiee View Post
    OOOh Sayer, Love the two tones get it how you want and im sure it will look great

    I bet you can get twice as much MPG out of that than I do mine
    just little touches here and there and it'll be sweet hopefully. 45mpg... looking forward to getting about 25mpg then I'll cry a bit

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    will it be going on track next year?
    unlikely mate... I want to get the car in pukka condition before it ever goes near a track. Having had the car less than a week (and only driven it twice), it's still an unknown quantity in terms of reliability so I'm taking a softly softly approach with it.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by suvvysaxo View Post
    sayer wtf! i thought you were one of those economicalist people!x
    greenpeace ftw. seriously you need to see my room... it's like nasa central meets a gym sauna. I've got all my computers running flat out, pumping out loads of heat and then I have my window open.... then it gets a bit too cold so I pump the radiator on as well. I have my own coal powered power station to supply my electrical needs.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jimmy-Boy View Post
    lol just what i thought looks good though man! good upgrade
    cheers jimster... when i was getting the quotes from the insurance companies most were coming back with £1500 premiums!!! Anyway my current insurer came to the rescue as asked for £150 on top of my 1.5D premium. £150 well spent

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    nice man, been ages since i mentioned this was up for sale lol

    i told you at ring my wheels were gona go same colour as car, il just keep em silver now!

    lookin forward to the shoot with both of them

    when you next back up?
    yeah man! good point I forgot about the pics. I'm still v. interested in your Chrono's (with or without tyres I aint fussy). Back up chrimbo time properly mate.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaybiss View Post
    vts rims?
    lowered?

    you want to be me...
    8v?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    those lights and wheels have to go

    spray that grill up if your keepin it standard
    That grille is my major beef at the moment... should've kept the dimma really

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    hmm im with the fat bald man.

    Wheels and lights dont look right how they are.
    lights can go once we're I get the trims and an autoelectrician on the case... wheels... ummmm I look at the pic and think 'buuughhhhhhhhh' then actually in the metal it looks pretty nice.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    VTDiseasal?



    Naiiice Mr Sayah
    cheers my sweet x x

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Viper View Post
    first thing i would change would be the grill. then wheels, then lights

    get to it sayer!
    grille deffers matey.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo View Post
    Id keep the lights and use two of the pods as induction holes, always thought that looked cool and its obviously a great cold air feed too. Would look mint lowered on anthracite VTS rims with std front lights, but its not different atall. But if your not after that thats cool. Look forward to seeing where you go with it mate
    Good suggestion mate actually! Just trying to pool ideas together so anything at this stage is welcome... if you think of anything else then hola back

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DawsonWicked View Post
    nice car dude, tbh i ould just keep it standard looking, but i would lower it and colour code the vts alloys to the same colour as the bottom half of the vt kit.

    simple enough and would probably look nice although I'm not keen on lowering it really.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by boz View Post
    nice one mate

    car looks good, different with those lights on.
    cheers man different being.... good?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    dropping the main beam for cold air feeds imo isnt exactly great for a road car.

    espec as saxo lights are not exactly great anyway
    angels eyes ftw.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    i would big mouth the lower bumper, mesh grill, ditch fog lights and mesh, strip interior, add some buckets, then add bmc, 708s, get a remap, fit catch tank, get some group n engine mounts, some group n billies, faulkner springs, xsi diff box with a quaiffe (for you ryan ) then look at standalone ecu, maybe some gti6 brakes as well, what about some chronos with r888s? waits for someone to say nah thats shit
    shit idea.

    should I make all my hair fall out whilst I'm at it?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Standard lights Sayer.
    smoked?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DawsonWicked View Post
    thats a great idea yates, i wonder who you stole that from ? im sure its a another two tone vts plate says S4XOD.

    i could be wrong thow
    the less like his car the better.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    nice looking vts mate
    give me a bit of time and hopefully it'll look even better mate

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by James View Post
    Nice bodykit you had on your diesal Sayer, myabe you can put one on this too.

    Serious note, needs some tidying up but generally it looks ok
    hahahahahahahahahahahahah cloud u funny u verey funny
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JamieM View Post
    Your not the same sayer now no Diesel lol!

    Lower it with anthracite wheels, Looks noiceeeeeee
    diesel f0 life brother... don't worry when the fuel prices rocket again I'll be pissed off enough to switch back over
  68. #68
    Sayer

    Make it your own

    Soon to have

    "The best 2 tone on this site" title
  69. #69
    Smoked as in Gunmetal yeah, otherwise standard.
  70. #70
    WTF? sayer's got a VTS

    I think (as already said) standrad lights
  71. #71
    nice S dude. You definatly gotta get it lowered, 35mm like mine looks awesome and improves handling. Id say smoked headlights maybe angels. Anthracite wheels. Big brakes. Smoked badges, Mesh grill with chrevrons still in then colour code the chevrons anth. Niiiiiiiiiiicceeee.
  72. #72
    bloody hell im shocked lol dont know why though

    looks pretty smart ad's id keep the lights as there differnt

    wheels are gash though! could you not just get the ones you have put back to original colour?
  73. #73
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Sayer

    Make it your own

    Soon to have

    "The best 2 tone on this site" title
    By default this car is the best SAXO on saxp... as I own it.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Smoked as in Gunmetal yeah, otherwise standard.
    gotcha. cheerssssssss

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    WTF? sayer's got a VTS

    I think (as already said) standrad lights
    lots of votes for standard lights then.. lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jaytee View Post
    nice S dude. You definatly gotta get it lowered, 35mm like mine looks awesome and improves handling. Id say smoked headlights maybe angels. Anthracite wheels. Big brakes. Smoked badges, Mesh grill with chrevrons still in then colour code the chevrons anth. Niiiiiiiiiiicceeee.
    angels... ummm something about them I don't like. If the headlight angle motor can be attached so you retain full functionality then maybe I'd consider them, but not sure that's even possible.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    bloody hell im shocked lol dont know why though

    looks pretty smart ad's id keep the lights as there differnt

    wheels are gash though! could you not just get the ones you have put back to original colour?
    gash!? hahah... well the silver S's back at home are in a sorry state and they'll be sent off to be shotblasted and powder coated... I'm limited to colours with powder coating but the finish should be a lot better and durable with any luck. cheers man
  74. #74
    Looks decent to be honest. I wouldnt change much at all. Maybe do the lights in the darker grey rather than silver. Just make sure its mechanically spot on then go from there.
  75. #75
    Nice car that, standard front lights though definitely!
  76. #76
    4 pages and 1 pic

    my god sayer your worse than me!!

    imo we need a few better pics then we can judge te car lol
  77. #77
    Nice one.

    Get standard or smoked headlights, lower it a tad. Standard wheels (colour) and some clean fresh plates. job done me thinks.
  78. #78
    Nice upgrade Ads.

    I like the morettes but think they would look better the same colour as the lower half of the car.
  79. #79
    nice cae mate, lower it, then do wheels same as lower part of car and keep the morettes
  80. #80
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    Looks decent to be honest. I wouldnt change much at all. Maybe do the lights in the darker grey rather than silver. Just make sure its mechanically spot on then go from there.
    That's the plan mate... it's back in my hometown awaiting an inspection (and repairs if any )

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Matt67 View Post
    Nice car that, standard front lights though definitely!
    another vote for the standards...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    4 pages and 1 pic

    my god sayer your worse than me!!

    imo we need a few better pics then we can judge te car lol
    I wasn't expecting much of a response to be honest man!

    anyway pics as requested (see below)

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hopcraft View Post
    Nice one.

    Get standard or smoked headlights, lower it a tad. Standard wheels (colour) and some clean fresh plates. job done me thinks.
    That's the next thing to worry about... I have 8 VTS rims now, so I'm going to select the best four, shot and powder coated and boshed on to the car. Not sure on colour yet though


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Nice upgrade Ads.

    I like the morettes but think they would look better the same colour as the lower half of the car.
    Thanks man Yates mentioned the same thing tonight actually... I tried a photoshop and it looked a bit . So I'm honestly not sure but the morettes are growing on me daily

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by R1CHO View Post
    nice cae mate, lower it, then do wheels same as lower part of car and keep the morettes
    and another vote for the morettes lol



    Cheers gang.

    Anyway just got it back to my little inbred hometown to discover yorkshire is covered in some cold, white shit. Popped to the local skally hang on to take some pics under the street lighting and then 2 mins later whoever controls the lights decided to kill them. BBBBAAAASTARD.



    Just put my trusty MD headunit back in


    And forced mothersayer to floor the loud pedal on the car... she screamed haha



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  81. #81
    looks nice, don't usually like those lights but they really suit it!! i wouldnt even let my mother sit in mine!
  82. #82
    Hahaha Pic of Mother Sayer in the S hot seat is awesome!
  83. #83
    christ mr sayer i need to pay attention more when did yo swap over to petrol like? still car looks good mate!

    also side note I feel your pain about being ill hope your better on that side soon
  84. #84
    looks sweet as a nut sayer, think you should keep them lights, but spray them black, then get anthracite wheels, and it will look sweeeeet
  85. #85
    Very nice but would change front lights and colour code grill.
  86. #86
    Mother sayer rocks
  87. #87
    Heh. Ads finally moves into the 21st century. Car looks nice mate. I can't believe Mr suspension guru is keeping this car's suspension standard. You should use it to set us all an example on just how the suspension should be set up...
  88. #88
    i cant believe hes go a vts still lol
    the morrettes arent as bad as id imagines but there still not too my tastes

    it does need a little drop sayer please dont leave it like a tractor
  89. #89
    very nice indeed
  90. #90
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by L20VTS View Post
    looks nice, don't usually like those lights but they really suit it!! i wouldnt even let my mother sit in mine!
    I'm actually starting to like the lights now dude lol Well she was insured on my old car and as I just switched the policy over for the vts, mother sayer remained on it. I took her for a spin then asked if she wanted a go, which she accepted - Seat gets straightened in it's most upright position, pulled forward as far as it'll go, pretty much squishing mothersayer into the steering wheel... just the way she, and most mothers, like to drive...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fergie127 View Post
    Hahaha Pic of Mother Sayer in the S hot seat is awesome!
    much of the drive involved her going 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkk!'
    awesome.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    christ mr sayer i need to pay attention more when did yo swap over to petrol like? still car looks good mate!

    also side note I feel your pain about being ill hope your better on that side soon
    ah only picked it up a few weeks ago mate, only driven it, what, 5-6 times. tbh. it's a good little runner (so far)

    yeah that was a royale nightmare, couldn't tell whether I should be putting my head or my arse down the toilet first... sucked to be me.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smiith View Post
    looks sweet as a nut sayer, think you should keep them lights, but spray them black, then get anthracite wheels, and it will look sweeeeet
    thinking just going back to silver on the rims now man... there's always this worry for me that it might be 'too grey' on the bottom half if you get me

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by delux View Post
    Very nice but would change front lights and colour code grill.
    COLOUR CODE GRILLE is an absolute priority... or a dimma... whichever becomes available first

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Mother sayer rocks
    hahah

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Heh. Ads finally moves into the 21st century. Car looks nice mate. I can't believe Mr suspension guru is keeping this car's suspension standard. You should use it to set us all an example on just how the suspension should be set up...
    Suspension will forever remain standard, handles perfectly already.
    none of this lowering shite for me... (maybe better dampers though)

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    i cant believe hes go a vts still lol
    the morrettes arent as bad as id imagines but there still not too my tastes

    it does need a little drop sayer please dont leave it like a tractor
    tractor ftw.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ocego_VTR View Post
    very nice indeed
    Cheers matey

    Car home and garaged and now in hibernation for winter...
    lock thread.
  91. #91
    lol @ mothersayer. could she actually sit any closer to the steering wheel, lol

    ads this thread is 5 pages long and i have only just noticed you have a vts after seeing your cam's thread.

    love it mate, lower it, silver vts rims and leave it
  92. #92
    LOL Same haircut like!!!!!
  93. #93
    Nice wheels sayer, i thought i would never see the day you would convert, haha

    Nice clean example too,

    stick with the morrettes though not many mk2s with them on now
  94. #94
    Mr Sayer!!!!!

    Loving the vts matey. needs a tad of lowerage. (know what your like with your dimensions and clever'ess about lowering) Standard S rims needed and then I think your set.

    Keep the morettes, need something to keep your e-celeb status on this car!!
  95. #95
    Bout time yoyu got his haha!

    Respray the rims the same color as the lower part of the car tbh!

    Get rid of the morrttes and lower it and leave it!
  96. #96
    looks good Sayer, i think you should give me the coloured S rims though...
  97. #97
    Looking sweet man Agree with the lowering situation though, either way looks good
  98. #98
    You need a new stereo.
  99. #99
    Haha one taste of the loud pedal and mumSayer has already cranked the seat back down & giving it the old '1 hander' Lucky you aint got a full sound install in there or you might had Van Morrison on full blast

    MumMystic is too scared to even ride passenger in mine
  100. #100
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    Haha one taste of the loud pedal and mumSayer has already cranked the seat back down & giving it the old '1 hander' Lucky you aint got a full sound install in there or you might had Van Morrison on full blast

    MumMystic is too scared to even ride passenger in mine
    MotherYates wont even look at mine, she rolled it when standard, but now she doesnt dare look at it.
  101. #101
    Morretes should go grey to match two toneness or black angels or just stds lol
  102. #102
    right just been fixing a few things over the last couple of days and adding a few touches here and there.

    JBL comps installed
    Pioneer rear co-axials installed
    All front bulbs H1, H7, 501's and 581's replaced
    Indicator Stalk replaced
    NS ball joint replaced
    NS rear light cluster replaced
    OS Mainbeam optic replaced - not a cheap part
    Alternator Belt replaced


    Car is booked in for wide mouth. Has a massive patch where the '16v' badge go on the NS where part of lacquer has come off so I'll be getting that seen to asap.

    needs some TLC but it's getting there, ordered a 25mm Apex Lowering kit inc dampers too.
    oh and S rims are going in for a powder coating.
    pics later.
  103. #103
    god stuff ads heard your geting interference with speakers though??
  104. #104
    Nice work Sayer, Spent the last 3 hours installing my new HU, the JBL comps, redoing all the speaker wiring & fitted some Osram H1s!

    You got pics of your tweeter location & crossover location? I been havin a good long shot of the bubble-pipe pondering where to put the crossover without taking up valuable storage space, i wanna keep em out of sight too
  105. #105
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR View Post
    god stuff ads heard your geting interference with speakers though??
    interference??? who told you that? lol nope no interference.

    wait... oh yeah when Yates, Viper and I went to High Force the left side started crackling and forcing the headunit to cut power to all the speakers...

    checked behind the left mid-woofer and it turned out the ground line and come loose and kept touching the chassis (hence the crackling), just patched it up with some extra solder and selotape

    Just bedding them in now, 1 hour down, another 9 to go...
  106. #106
    ahhh right all good then
  107. #107
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    Nice work Sayer, Spent the last 3 hours installing my new HU, the JBL comps, redoing all the speaker wiring & fitted some Osram H1s!

    You got pics of your tweeter location & crossover location? I been havin a good long shot of the bubble-pipe pondering where to put the crossover without taking up valuable storage space, i wanna keep em out of sight too
    no joke it took me BLADDDY ages to install the components, I'd done them before on my ol' 5-door but for some reason the cold must have got to me so it took a good 4 hours.

    the rear speakers.... holy hell... didn't realise I'd have to rip up most of the rear and the entire trim to get access to them (stupid damn 3-doors) that said it was worth it and I don't care what any of the pro's say, having a good set of rear speakers is well worth taking the time to install.

    Tweeters are located on the wing mirror covers, the crossovers are in the back door bins although in a corner so they can still be used. Although there is enough space behind the door card itself to located the crossovers themselves if you're not happy about them being in the bins man

    EDIT: depends on the size of the crossovers though!
  108. #108
    sayer rear end should only take 30mins to get appart max for rear speakers, Not that they are needed anyway, as the sound stage should be infront of the ear not behind it

    whens the cams going in
  109. #109
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    sayer rear end should only take 30mins to get appart max for rear speakers, Not that they are needed anyway, as the sound stage should be infront of the ear not behind it

    whens the cams going in
    nnaaaaa. when shifting the fader you can tell straight away the difference it makes, because of the whole spacial-awareness way in which humans work, two ears yet can sense audio sources in 3dimensions, provided you've balanced them (basically so the rears are driving slightly harder than the fronts) it 'fills' the car better, also gives better stereo definition.

    makes mucho difference.

    never done rear before (never had a 3-door either), didn't fancy fuggering up the doorcards for the sake of hurrying the work up.

    cams, once I've got everything else sorted. something still isn't quite right in the transmission and steering so I'm going to have a looky and play about tomorrow.
  110. #110
    what you mean in tranny> it not shifting right, popping out of gear etc...>

    i need new ball joints in mine both are fucked, so might be onto the spare bones for a while.
  111. #111
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    no joke it took me BLADDDY ages to install the components, I'd done them before on my ol' 5-door but for some reason the cold must have got to me so it took a good 4 hours.

    the rear speakers.... holy hell... didn't realise I'd have to rip up most of the rear and the entire trim to get access to them (stupid damn 3-doors) that said it was worth it and I don't care what any of the pro's say, having a good set of rear speakers is well worth taking the time to install.

    Tweeters are located on the wing mirror covers, the crossovers are in the back door bins although in a corner so they can still be used. Although there is enough space behind the door card itself to located the crossovers themselves if you're not happy about them being in the bins man

    EDIT: depends on the size of the crossovers though!
    Yeh, i've given up for the night, too cold to be outdoors now!

    Theres a vertical metal strip that runs down the inside of the door itself, i'm gonna have a bash at sticking the crossover to that in the morning, failing that it'll have to go on the rear of the doorcard somewhere, the lip below the doors grab handle probably!

    My kitchen as of 2 mins ago...

    (Yes im aware the cat is eating out a tin of food, he managed to get it off the worktop, get the clingfilm off & pull the lid back enough to get his head in so i figured he deserved the spoils )


    Not even thought about the rear yet. Heading down to Newcastle in the morning for a night out so been rushing to get the new speakers & ipod headunit in so i can listen to some decent quality music on the way down!
  112. #112
    wtf is the cat trying to eat
  113. #113
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    what you mean in tranny> it not shifting right, popping out of gear etc...>

    i need new ball joints in mine both are fucked, so might be onto the spare bones for a while.
    ball joints are gay.

    cornering to the left seems to make the car resonate madly at about 3k and 6k rpm. As does letting off throttle from high revs. sounds like its coming from around the centre section - now I know this was replaced by KwikFit just before I bought the car and when I took the car to be inspected after I'd bought it the mechanic said he'd had a go at adjusting it because it was in contact with the heat sheilf, so my guess is it's back in it's original (and wrong) position

    Kwikfit employees are actually the stupidest mongs on planet earth - no offence to any KwikFit employees on saxp

    I think the OS shaft might be on its way out... the odd 'ping' at <3mph and full lock. And the wheels feel like they're wobbling at the same time.

    Oh and the alternator is fufu'd
  114. #114
    Made an edit

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    (Yes im aware the cat is eating out a tin of food, he managed to get it off the worktop, get the clingfilm off & pull the lid back enough to get his head in so i figured he deserved the spoils )
    Half a tin of catfood.

    I meant to say aswell Ads, i mounted the tweaters in the same place as you, made some pads about 2 year ago using a load of body filler lol, they dont look so hot close up but will do for now, will need to have a bash at some material + fibreglass resin efforts one day.
  115. #115
    ah heatshield grumblings, a common fault tbh! heard it many a time! yes queer fit fitters are amongst the thickest.

    adjustment to the middle hanger should in theory sort it as it will cause the biggest movement.

    offside is long shaft iirc cunts to change the otherdise short shaft is a 30min -1hour job.

    could allways be the top mount bearings btw the ping that or droplinks
  116. #116
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    Yeh, i've given up for the night, too cold to be outdoors now!

    Theres a vertical metal strip that runs down the inside of the door itself, i'm gonna have a bash at sticking the crossover to that in the morning, failing that it'll have to go on the rear of the doorcard somewhere, the lip below the doors grab handle probably!

    My kitchen as of 2 mins ago...

    (Yes im aware the cat is eating out a tin of food, he managed to get it off the worktop, get the clingfilm off & pull the lid back enough to get his head in so i figured he deserved the spoils )


    Not even thought about the rear yet. Heading down to Newcastle in the morning for a night out so been rushing to get the new speakers & ipod headunit in so i can listen to some decent quality music on the way down!
    That's class! dadsayer and mothersayer go ape whenever a single part of my car in the kitchen, not cool especially in winter

    defo enough space in the door grab handle

    have you replaced the entire speaker wiring as well man? Was looking at the O-Cu-Free stuff the other day but couldn't quite justify the time and the expense really for my low budget setup. What setup are you running?

    EDIT: looks like you bought the JBLs GTc kit as well

    tbh the most time took was with the dynaMat stuff... Halfords are practically giving it away at the moment so bought a couple of sheets
  117. #117
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    ah heatshield grumblings, a common fault tbh! heard it many a time! yes queer fit fitters are amongst the thickest.

    adjustment to the middle hanger should in theory sort it as it will cause the biggest movement.
    ahhh good stuff, I'll check it out tomorrow then


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post

    could allways be the top mount bearings btw the ping that or droplinks
    Glad you said that as I didn't think the ping sounded like the shaft... droplinks? which bit are they then???
  118. #118
    droplinks are the almost verticle bar that runs off the strut to the ARB.


    You can see it to the left of strut in pic (also covered in brake fluid)
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  119. #119
    and also you own a sport saxo, get used to bangs and pings lol!

    both of mine have and do so and drive fine.
  120. #120
    ^^^ legend. the tyres on the front are getting replaced tomorrow so I'll get behind and have a look




    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    and also you own a sport saxo, get used to bangs and pings lol!

    both of mine have and do so and drive fine.
    Just 'saxo' would have sufficed
  121. #121
    theres so much in that area you can replace lol!

    wishbone bushes, arb bushes, drop links, bearings, top mounts, topmount bearings....

    its common for the top mount bearings to bang from alot of reports, my old vtr used to clunk and bang low speed near full lock in roundabouts etc...
  122. #122
    Yeh, i have no sound proofing atm

    I redone the speaker wiring from HU to Door ages ago when i fitted some kenwood speakers, same tme i made the tweeter mounts actually, but it turned out they werent comps so i never used em.

    I'm gonna redo the whole crossover to HU wiring at somepoint, same time i dynamat it maybe... It will bug me if i dont! In the pic there i've just used some extra speaker wire to get from the crossover to where the current speaker wire would have met the speaker in the standard setup.

    P.S. parents are staying with relatives up north tonight, kitchen will be spotless again before i leave in the morning lol.
  123. #123
    on the subjects of kitchens mine currently has an engine crane in it

    plus usually has a whole stock of parts lol
  124. #124
    Oops, yeh my setup is a Pioneer DEH-P700BT headunit & the JBL GTO507c comps.

    Will either remove the rear speakers or maybe see what i can find to fit there. Also toying with the idea of sticking my old 12" sub in the boot. See what the bass is like on the trip tomoz i suppose.
  125. #125
    Nice progress Sayer.
  126. #126
    nice one sayer
  127. #127
    drop links easy to change i can do em, thought you were having my tyres?

    i need to go sort out the mess that is my car
  128. #128
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    on the subjects of kitchens mine currently has an engine crane in it

    plus usually has a whole stock of parts lol
    now thats a true car enthusiast


    sayer hurry up and get it tidied up
    its a good base for some tinkering to make a smart car out of it
  129. #129
    good progress sayer nice look vts tooo
  130. #130
    new bits arrived today



    will be fitted after I've checked with insurance and had the MOT done (sometime in mid feb)
  131. #131
    nice one
  132. #132
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    new bits arrived today

    will be fitted after I've checked with insurance and had the MOT done (sometime in mid feb)
    check with insurance to see if you can fit them? buy and then check lol i like
  133. #133
    mate i wouldn't tell the insurance, just say it was like that when purchased, who will know any better
  134. #134
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by krissyneillie1 View Post
    mate i wouldn't tell the insurance, just say it was like that when purchased, who will know any better
    because then that would be insurance fraud...
  135. #135
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vts-luke View Post
    check with insurance to see if you can fit them? buy and then check lol i like
    Well if I'm honest I'm not too fussed if they say no. Not a fan of lowering tbh

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by krissyneillie1 View Post
    mate i wouldn't tell the insurance, just say it was like that when purchased, who will know any better
    I'd rather not dude lol
  136. #136
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Well if I'm honest I'm not too fussed if they say no. Not a fan of lowering tbh
    ah like your tractors eh ad?
  137. #137
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    because then that would be insurance fraud...
    hardly if your unaware a set of springs came like that when bought
  138. #138
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by krissyneillie1 View Post
    mate i wouldn't tell the insurance, just say it was like that when purchased, who will know any better
    theres a new idiot posting each day on here.

    They can quite easily still refuse the claim if anything happens as they are not declaired, ignorance is not an excuse for idiocy.
  139. #139
    Ha ha at the above comments lol

    Looking good anyway ads.
  140. #140
    VTS wheels are off to be powdercoated. should be done by next week.

    pow
  141. #141
    normal silver Mr Sayer?
  142. #142
    shit. actually I forgot to tell them...

    don't believe this. serious
  143. #143
    Is that a joke?
  144. #144
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    shit. actually I forgot to tell them...

    don't believe this. serious
    Word?

    They fail.
  145. #145
    well naaa my sisters bf is taking my wheels (as they're being back at Sayer HQ Yorkshire Division), and we never discussed colour.

    probs go with silver... any other suggestions?
  146. #146
    Anthracite.

    Can't believe you didn't discuss colour.
  147. #147
    Same colour as lower half of the car ftw.
  148. #148
    anything but black or white, silver it is.
  149. #149
    stay silver sayer
    imo the rims any other on a 2tone will look poo

    will they be sorted for the 18th?
  150. #150
    Go for silver - standard look is well smart.
  151. #151
    Standard look imo sayer. Or maybe a lighter silver so they look standard when it's on it's own but different along side other saxo's?
  152. #152
    Silver it is then. Grey would look pants as would black. White is shite. So silver wins
  153. #153
    Terracotta?
  154. #154
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Silver it is then. Grey would look pants as would black. White is shite. So silver wins
    how about that tartan paint sayer?
  155. #155
    Silver all day, nice and clean.
  156. #156
    Burberry...
  157. #157
    How about high power silver?
  158. #158
    Defo stick with standard silver Ad.

    Car is making good progress now!!

    Keep it up!
  159. #159
    Cheers boys and girls


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    How about high power silver?
    Craigy, what's high powered silver? Any comparisons or examples?

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  160. #160
    glow in the dark paint!

    DO IT
  161. #161
    Looking good raver
  162. #162
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Viper View Post
    glow in the dark paint!

    DO IT
    haha i was thinking this the other day and thought it could look quite cool

    viper i think you should give it ago
  163. #163
    if you pay for it, i will do it
  164. #164
    Looking good

    p.s new pictures ??
  165. #165
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Terracotta?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaybiss View Post
    how about that tartan paint sayer?


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Danr View Post
    Burberry...
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Viper View Post
    glow in the dark paint!

    DO IT
    what is wrong with you people???

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hopcraft View Post
    Silver all day, nice and clean.
    cheers! they're going silver.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by John_1.1i View Post
    Looking good

    p.s new pictures ??
    no new pics mate... I don't see the car until the weekends.


    Suppose a little update (see first post) On a side note I've done about 3000 miles since I've had it and I've recorded a total average of 40mpg (so the motor is good at least)

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  166. #166
    My spark plugs are white & covered in oil
  167. #167
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    My spark plugs are white & covered in oil
    WTF. What's happened?
  168. #168
    Cant explain the oil tbh but the threads were soaked in it which implies its came from the top. White plugs means im running lean i think

    My PH3s & RCD remap doesnt idle well, if atall, seems to have lost me power over standard figures & is apparently underfueling too
  169. #169
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    Cant explain the oil tbh but the threads were soaked in it which implies its came from the top. White plugs means im running lean i think

    My PH3s & RCD remap doesnt idle well, if atall, seems to have lost me power over standard figures & is apparently underfueling too
    get that map looked at asap man!

    anyway... the saxo was RR'd today






    136.9hp at the fly

    Magnex BB... I can assure you it is a Magnex backbox in the pic lol. Lee has kindly offered to give me his Magnex centre section too... woooo
  170. #170
    car looks well with morretes.
  171. #171
    Looks a monster with them morrettes.
  172. #172
    Morettes look gayer than Ryan.

    Good to meet you and your car today Mr Sayer!
  173. #173
    Sorry for the late reply, High power silver:



    Shit pic off my old Nokia phone, but you get the idea!
  174. #174
    looks good nice car
  175. #175
    Was good to see and the S today. Made some awesome figures.
  176. #176
    Good stuff Ads. Definitely a result on the rollers. Standard cars seemed to make pretty close to standard figures, so I wouldn't doubt your results too much.
  177. #177
    not too keen on the rims or front lights, would look nice with window tints.
  178. #178
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    car looks well with morretes.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Looks a monster with them morrettes.
    cheers gang! I have on and off days with the morettes. I'm conscious of the fact mine will get dangerously close to yates example so I'm keep the morettes just to be different, even if they look a bit gash... but I'll probably get the inner bit paint black or EZD grey.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Sorry for the late reply, High power silver:



    Shit pic off my old Nokia phone, but you get the idea!
    Awesome! (and a bit late lol). The wheels are currently being done Arctic Steel Silver (same silver as the top half of my car) - hopefully hi power silver enough because they look shweet

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by craigy1989 View Post
    looks good nice car


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Was good to see and the S today. Made some awesome figures.
    you too man was a good day

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Good stuff Ads. Definitely a result on the rollers. Standard cars seemed to make pretty close to standard figures, so I wouldn't doubt your results too much.
    Really happy with the wheel figure, just the fly figure is just too high to be believable... but the good thing is that the two other standard 1.6 16v cars that were there also got the same figure... so at least the figure is reliable (if not quite right). good meeting you man!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexR View Post
    Morettes look gayer than Ryan.
    Good to meet you and your car today Mr Sayer!
    you too homie was a fun day. mucho enjoyment

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jmwilliams View Post
    not too keen on the rims or front lights, would look nice with window tints.
    the rims are a defo issue man, whoever painted them originally needs shooting... they'll be coming off and probably powdercoating as well in anthracite maybe or some other colour towards the end of the year. I'm tempted by very lightly smoked tints but won't be for a while either.

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  179. #179
    Sayer...When do you think the wheels will be complete as thats colour I am going to get mine redone in...I want to see how good it looks
  180. #180
    Should be collected Friday... I get dadSayer to get a pic for me
  181. #181
    Seen your figures @ the fly on Shed mate, what breathing mods is it running?
  182. #182
    standard man... completely standard
  183. #183
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    standard man... completely standard
    That's what I thought.

    It is probably one of the special 130bhp models they released
  184. #184
    hahah... I think the way they calculate it might be a bit poo poo as the wheel figure and torque seem spot on.
  185. #185
    sayer wanna buy a 4 inch powwwwwwwwer flow with a poopersprint centre?
  186. #186
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    hahah... I think the way they calculate it might be a bit poo poo as the wheel figure and torque seem spot on.
    True yeah.

    Good MPG though, what mileage you getting out of a tank?
  187. #187
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaybiss View Post
    sayer wanna buy a 4 inch powwwwwwwwer flow with a poopersprint centre?
    er no. but thanks jay
    ps did you get the funds?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    True yeah.

    Good MPG though, what mileage you getting out of a tank?
    V-power, 400 miles on average, very gentle warm ups then normal driving thereafter with occasional blasts around town and 75mph average on the motorway + occasional blasts.


    500 miles is dooable I reckon if I could be arsed to try.
  188. #188
    not checked tbh ad

    i assume it is sent to jamieb987?

    edit: got it, i think i will use it to pay ryan for these alloys lol

    did you get the extra extender pipes etc?
  189. #189
    Yeah, nice to meet you too Ads. Look forward to sorting out a bit track action in the near future!
  190. #190
    [QUOTE=adsayer;2895655]

    QUOTE]

    I like the morretes, Think they look
  191. #191
    Fuel consumption........was the last thing on my mind when I bought an S

    Get a fecking hair cut lad will you....

    The "Worsall Gumage" was so last year Sayer :}
  192. #192
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    get that map looked at asap man!

    anyway... the saxo was RR'd today






    136.9hp at the fly

    Magnex BB... I can assure you it is a Magnex backbox in the pic lol. Lee has kindly offered to give me his Magnex centre section too... woooo
    was good to meet you and the saxo today dude, car looks sweet but you looked girly aha just jokes sayer.

    and no worries on the centre section dude honestly you can have it.

    i cant help but think you need to do something different with the morrettes, and the grill.

    mmmmm maybe paint the recessed bit anth like bottom half of the car and colour code the grill silver with black slate's and black chevrons.

    with the 25mm drop and the anth S wheels its going to need something different up front.

    but hey im a tad of a style whore dude

    keep up the good work sayer and nice pulling power on the motorway too aha i liked that.
  193. #193
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    V-power, 400 miles on average, very gentle warm ups then normal driving thereafter with occasional blasts around town and 75mph average on the motorway + occasional blasts.

    500 miles is dooable I reckon if I could be arsed to try.
    :s i get way less lol tescos unleaded fuel or sainsburys though but still way less lol
  194. #194
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Fuel consumption........was the last thing on my mind when I bought an S

    Get a fecking hair cut lad will you....

    The "Worsall Gumage" was so last year Sayer :}
    Haircut???? neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    Honestly I'm not out to set MPG records with the car but it's good to keep track anyway just incase the engine starts going shit. Regardless, I was filling my pants at the prospect of shit mpg according to members on here when I bought the car - they clearly can't drive or can't add up as its pretty good on fuel, as I've found

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 View Post
    was good to meet you and the saxo today dude, car looks sweet but you looked girly aha just jokes sayer.

    and no worries on the centre section dude honestly you can have it.

    i cant help but think you need to do something different with the morrettes, and the grill.

    mmmmm maybe paint the recessed bit anth like bottom half of the car and colour code the grill silver with black slate's and black chevrons.

    with the 25mm drop and the anth S wheels its going to need something different up front.

    but hey im a tad of a style whore dude

    keep up the good work sayer and nice pulling power on the motorway too aha i liked that.
    I'll admit that I actually decided to wash 'the hair' that morning so it was looking silky smooth and feminine

    soooo glad you said that actually mate, as the car is going in for a wide mouth, debadging and lower coding of the morettes during april (at least someone is thinking along the same lines as meee )

    Then.... power time

    Actually lee, I've sorted out with the insurance about the exhaust so it's all go to fit... can you let me know when you (and perhaps alex) are free next and arrange a meet up. If you could help fit they'll be drinks thrown your way and massive THANKS

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pat_Vts View Post
    :s i get way less lol tescos unleaded fuel or sainsburys though but still way less lol
    Could be driving conditions you have though mate. My runs tend to be 1 hour+, 75% Motorway, 25% Town and B-roads. So I've got the roads on my side tbh

    Only ran the car on normal fuel when I bought it and it's been v-power ever since, so not sure how much of an effect it'll have tbh!

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  195. #195
    gayer....

    any chance of pics of mine on the rollers yday for me to look at
  196. #196
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    gayer....

    any chance of pics of mine on the rollers yday for me to look at
    no sorry. and stop spamming my thread.
  197. #197
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    no sorry. and stop spamming my thread.
    *warms ban button* lol

    So once the fagnex is on whats next? green enclosed of retain OE airbox yet uprated panel filter?

    im going back to austec soon i expect for some mapping on mine, you want me to comment about your project at uni
  198. #198
    i rekon sayer need to contribute to the thread on shed
  199. #199
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    *warms ban button* lol

    So once the fagnex is on whats next? green enclosed of retain OE airbox yet uprated panel filter?

    im going back to austec soon i expect for some mapping on mine, you want me to comment about your project at uni
    mega lols @ the obligatory 'what next?' post.

    legend. I'm off to bed but I'll sort it tomorrow evening I promise... just give me a little reminder

    Induction, I'm open (pun). I don't want a BMC after some not so impressive figures/reviews. I really fancy a cotton panel filter, but that intake ducting needs a SERIOUS fiddle first. The pressure drop along that will be horrendous... I'm expecting good gains just from sorting that out more so than actual filter change. And I think that might explain why so many claim an open induction makes the car more responsive... not the filter itself but probably because it only has a single bend in the intake before the TB...

    Do people rate the Raceland-Green Enclosed then??

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    i rekon sayer need to contribute to the thread on shed
    which thread my darling?
  200. #200
    that will look swish mate the subtle body improvements arw always the best and also I'm glad someone thought like me too aha

    I'm free this weekend, I'm free next sunday, I'm free every weekend this onwards till the 26th feb, then I'll free again the same as above every weekend after the 13th. if that any use to you dude.

    I'm glad to be of help mate anytime you know.

    put me up for the night and I'll travel to yours help you fit your bits then partay aha
  201. #201
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    which thread my darling?
    the thread of pics from yesterday
  202. #202
    haha couldnt accuse me of spamming then.

    We have an official pics thread on shed. Im writing a report when i get time im going to send to the mags. I shall send copies of yours and my pics with it along with both names so if we can get a feature on it and your name mentioned in the mag are you happy with that mate??

    the raceland with the green filter seems highly rated as almost the same design of the green and uses its same filter
  203. #203
    From:


    To:




    Car looks nice
  204. #204
    just read it start to finish and is looking good i like the plans you have

    i also belive i know mark that you bought it from, works at the spectrum as a hockey trainer?
  205. #205
    If you want a raceland be quick

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...25#post2899725
  206. #206
    Sayer, what are you doing in the coming weekends?

    Fancy a visit up my way? Im after a few real quality pics taking of my car (sure Lee would like some of his too)

    Ill pay for your petrol and keep you fed
  207. #207
    looks really nice
  208. #208
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    mega lols @ the obligatory 'what next?' post.

    legend. I'm off to bed but I'll sort it tomorrow evening I promise... just give me a little reminder

    Induction, I'm open (pun). I don't want a BMC after some not so impressive figures/reviews. I really fancy a cotton panel filter, but that intake ducting needs a SERIOUS fiddle first. The pressure drop along that will be horrendous... I'm expecting good gains just from sorting that out more so than actual filter change. And I think that might explain why so many claim an open induction makes the car more responsive... not the filter itself but probably because it only has a single bend in the intake before the TB...

    Do people rate the Raceland-Green Enclosed then??



    which thread my darling?
    This is Harvey btw with the yellow GTI.

    I was led to believe that the additional pipework on the standard airbox is some sort of resonance box to still the air.

    My green filter for my Raceland arrived today so I'll be fitting that next week, I'm not expecting much tbh except better throttle response but I can let you know the outcome if you want.
  209. #209
    Havent got a clue whats going on in this thread. But those RR snaps look good man.

    Seems like you came out with good results too.
  210. #210
    Yeah Always count on Sayer with the old air filter.....Been wanting to know this for ages....So awaits to see what you are going to do
  211. #211
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sunday View Post
    just read it start to finish and is looking good i like the plans you have

    i also belive i know mark that you bought it from, works at the spectrum as a hockey trainer?
    That's him, he's a proper sound guy like.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    yar I saw... low on funds at the moment as I only get paid quarterly (april is next pay day)

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willsy View Post
    Sayer, what are you doing in the coming weekends?

    Fancy a visit up my way? Im after a few real quality pics taking of my car (sure Lee would like some of his too)

    Ill pay for your petrol and keep you fed
    pm'dddd

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wilsss View Post
    looks really nice
    thanks dude

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scribbles View Post
    This is Harvey btw with the yellow GTI.

    I was led to believe that the additional pipework on the standard airbox is some sort of resonance box to still the air.

    My green filter for my Raceland arrived today so I'll be fitting that next week, I'm not expecting much tbh except better throttle response but I can let you know the outcome if you want.
    hey man top stuff, it was nice to compare a standard 1.6 16v whilst we were there. Please do let me know how you find it mate, that'd be brill

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Havent got a clue whats going on in this thread. But those RR snaps look good man.

    Seems like you came out with good results too.
    I've sorted it a bit better, the 1st post contains a complete timeline so you don't have to sift through pages just to find each update I don't believe the results for a second... 136.9hp from a completely standard engine with 75k, as if, but it's good for impressing slags y0

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Yeah Always count on Sayer with the old air filter.....Been wanting to know this for ages....So awaits to see what you are going to do
    no idea yet. Easter will be the next time I get to faff on with the car properly... It needs straightening and shortening that's for sure...
  212. #212
    If your wanting a green let me know...am trying to sort a few out
  213. #213
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    It needs straightening and shortening that's for sure...
    you on about your hair?
  214. #214
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    That's him, he's a proper sound guy like.


    yeah man, fully agree with that comment, cars looking alot better than when he first got it
  215. #215
    Is there an actual exhaust apart from the BTB and custom one Ryan has that Ryan doesn't slate.... Has a stupid fecking name for each one
  216. #216
    is there ever a time on this forum when lee isnt trying to start an argument for no apparent reason? I also have a stupid name for you xx

    As said previously the magnex seems very nice, and doesnt sound cheap and shit like most of the other now common systems.
  217. #217
    Not looking for...err how you say an "arguement" just stating facts from what you say Ryan..

    Any Sayer...Did you get the replace headlights...H4's?
  218. #218
    im surprised.
    not going to try and get personal information about me to post all over the internet now?

    Sayer is a mate, me and him joke about the car and whats fitted to it. A few of us discussed at the weekend the car and how he should use a magnex center pipe rather than cutting up the standard center box.
  219. #219
    Ryan...Ryan...Ryan....I dont have enough time on my hands to do that...Would I find anything decent..i doubt it..:}

    Am sure Sayer will use the intensive knowledge on shed to help him make decison
  220. #220
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    how he should use a magnex center pipe rather than cutting up the standard center box.
    Very true... never sits right and doesn't sound any different.

    Car looks smart Mr Sayer... healthy figures too.
  221. #221
    Lee_VTR1 very kindly gave me his Magnex centre section so I took a quick trip to Nuneaton to catch up with Alex, Lee, Willsy and Aaron to get the Centre Section and Back box fitted

    Whilst I was there Alex sold me his Powerflex lower engine mount... so so so much better than standard it rocks.

    Pics when it's light (wednesday)
  222. #222
    good day mate

    hope you like the new stuff

    feel free to pop down anytime you need stuff doing
  223. #223
    was a good laugh man. good to catch up again with everyone really even if I'd seen you and lee's muggy faces last weekend.

    Love love love the powerflex mount though...

    x x x
  224. #224
    the Powerflex mount make alot of difference then Ads?
  225. #225
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    the Powerflex mount make alot of difference then Ads?
    defo man. the gear change is much sharper and firmer. bit more vibration at idle but nothing crazy. Hard to describe really but just makes the car feel better
  226. #226
    Ah I see,
    looking forward to recieving mine on Tuesday then,
    ive just swapped the other 2 over for Pugsport Grp N and theres a fair bit of vibration, but it makes the car alot better when spirited driving
  227. #227
    adz is all about the group As lol
  228. #228
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    lee's muggy faces.

    x x x
    thanks sayer you cheeky git

    no worries about the center section dude hope you enjoy it, did it feel nicer to drive home then, with the better exhaust from catback, and with the lower engine mount yea?

    and thanks for the photos dude cant wait to see them

    feel free to pop down whenever dude or give me and alex a shout when you wanna lower the vts, me and him will travel up to yours party with you to spice girls or bewitched aha cause we know you like that and then we can lower the sax.
  229. #229
    Love how you say 'quick' trip Sayer.

    Progress sounds good
  230. #230
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 View Post
    me and him will travel up to yours party with you to spice girls or bewitched aha
    ill tell you what i want what i really really want
    so tell me what you want what you really really want
    i wanna
    i wanna
    i wanna
    i wanna
    i really really really wanna see sayer dance
  231. #231
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    ill tell you what i want what i really really want
    so tell me what you want what you really really want
    i wanna
    i wanna
    i wanna
    i wanna
    i really really really wanna see sayer dance
    aha hes going to hate me and you alex.

    lets carry on
  232. #232
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 View Post
    aha hes going to hate me and you alex.

    lets carry on
    not my fault i accidentally found that!!!
  233. #233
    he blames you lol
  234. #234
    he can blame me all he likes haha!!
    hes the dancing ghey
  235. #235
    powerflex is a mild mount so quite ideal for you, I think the solid metal pugsport one would piss you off, where as an uprated nylon one does the job fine.

    good stuff mr Gayer.
  236. #236
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    I think the solid metal pugsport one would piss you off
    im having the metals in my gti i think
    thats a daily lol
  237. #237
    metal is going on mine, got a rubba pugsport atm which fags having.
  238. #238
    had em in my vts for a couple days
    and in my shitbox mess thing when that was running

    there not too bad tbh
  239. #239
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Ah I see,
    looking forward to recieving mine on Tuesday then,
    ive just swapped the other 2 over for Pugsport Grp N and theres a fair bit of vibration, but it makes the car alot better when spirited driving
    I know what you mean man. the car feels much more complete and seems to inspire a more confidence best value mod by far!!!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    adz is all about the group As lol
    no fuuuuucking way man, I was stunned by how much vibration came through just from the powerflex... you will, infact, shake your limbs off driving that thing with Group A's.

    Gonna get some rear powerflex bushes... as I can fit them myself

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 View Post
    thanks sayer you cheeky git

    no worries about the center section dude hope you enjoy it, did it feel nicer to drive home then, with the better exhaust from catback, and with the lower engine mount yea?

    and thanks for the photos dude cant wait to see them

    feel free to pop down whenever dude or give me and alex a shout when you wanna lower the vts, me and him will travel up to yours party with you to spice girls or bewitched aha cause we know you like that and then we can lower the sax.
    anytime
    It's awesome thanks soooo much Much better, the engine feel's a bit freer too. not sure if it's quicker but that wasn't my aim in getting the magnex. I love it though.

    I'll give you guys a scream about the torsion bars thanks!
    no idea what you're on about with spice girls and bewitched.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Love how you say 'quick' trip Sayer.

    Progress sounds good
    slowly but surely... it's not going to be an all out racer, or some sort of trend setter... I'm just after a saxo that I enjoy driving and looks mildly interesting lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    powerflex is a mild mount so quite ideal for you, I think the solid metal pugsport one would piss you off, where as an uprated nylon one does the job fine.

    good stuff mr Gayer.
    Yep I'd get mega miffed with anything stiffer that's for sure!
    Cheers my dear x
  240. #240
    love my lower engine mount sayer!

    good to see you got the magnex on too. whats next? filter?
  241. #241
    Nothing till easter now man! How you getting on with your zaust system now? any better?
    Cheers once again for the maggy

    Lowering.
    The tyres need putting on the other S rims.
    Debading, respray where whoever removed the 16v badges took off the lacquer, wide mouth and morettes coded to match the bottom.
    ^ All be done during easter
    And then I'll leave for a while before commencing Camming during summer.
  242. #242
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    no fuuuuucking way man, I was stunned by how much vibration came through just from the powerflex... you will, infact, shake your limbs off driving that thing with Group A's.
    my limbs will be fiiiiine
  243. #243
    Great to see/catch up with you a bit again today mate, always seems like such a long time between shows and occasional visits

    Sorry i couldnt get to spend a great deal of time on your car with you today, but ive been nagging Laurie to get to work on his Rally car and do some Rallys again soon for so long.
  244. #244
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Nothing till easter now man! How you getting on with your zaust system now? any better?
    Cheers once again for the maggy

    Lowering.
    The tyres need putting on the other S rims.
    Debading, respray where whoever removed the 16v badges took off the lacquer, wide mouth and morettes coded to match the bottom.
    ^ All be done during easter
    And then I'll leave for a while before commencing Camming during summer.
    exhaust isnt too bad tbh, definately needs a manifold though. it will feel much better then but that will be done after the mot.

    sounds like a decent list. add gti6 brakes too?
  245. #245
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willsy View Post
    Great to see/catch up with you a bit again today mate, always seems like such a long time between shows and occasional visits

    Sorry i couldnt get to spend a great deal of time on your car with you today, but ive been nagging Laurie to get to work on his Rally car and do some Rallys again soon for so long.
    I know man! Good to catch up as well... we WILL sort out a proper shoot for that beast of yours during easter hopefully!! Good luck with sorting that rally car

    edit: did you see the one I did or yours?


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaybiss View Post
    exhaust isnt too bad tbh, definately needs a manifold though. it will feel much better then but that will be done after the mot.

    sounds like a decent list. add gti6 brakes too?
    Will the manifold make a difference to the noise at all?
    naaaa 266mm's for meeee


    Anyway!
    New grille from a Desire... woooo


    Also my powdercoated VTS rims came back last week... these are Yates' (also done at the same time) but they're in the same colour to give you an idea!


    EDIT: forgot to add...

    The Saxo is currently in Southampton with Andy aka Luthor1 (Datashift) aiding with the development of the Predator 3-Plug ECU... so fingers crossed that some progress is made on the Pred!
  246. #246
    Nice work Ads.

    Did you FINALLY weigh the VTS rims?
  247. #247
    Colour code the chevrons to the same colour as the bottom of the car sayer. Winning idea imo.
  248. #248
    Wheels will look awesome man.

    Nice to see your helping Andy with the development of the 3 plug ECU. I'm very interested to see what it puts out etc when it's finished.
  249. #249
    Nice progress young man.
  250. #250
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Nice work Ads.

    Did you FINALLY weigh the VTS rims?
    They're back at Sayer Towers, i'm still in guildford so no weighing till... easter

    sorry! But they will be done, I've even tattoo'd a message to myself on my forehead telling me to weigh the rims when I returnyyy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Danr View Post
    Colour code the chevrons to the same colour as the bottom of the car sayer. Winning idea imo.
    no. yates has done it.

    fucker. we still need to meet up.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Wheels will look awesome man.

    Nice to see your helping Andy with the development of the 3 plug ECU. I'm very interested to see what it puts out etc when it's finished.
    Can't wait to lob them on dude Yeah, note to all...

    Andy, has my complete trust, he really is on the right track to developing a very good unit

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Nice progress young man.
    fankssss
  251. #251
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    no. yates has done it.
    fucker. we still need to meet up.
    Whenevers good bro
  252. #252
    like this car!!

    nice to see it shining at brands the other week, only thing im not keen on is the lights!
  253. #253
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nickhead View Post
    like this car!!

    nice to see it shining at brands the other week, only thing im not keen on is the lights!
    hahah hai nick!

    the lights I'm stuck on... I think I can make them so they don't look gash, but it's really a stab in the dark.

    basically colour code the inside part grey like the bottom... and I'm hoping the desire grille will make the front 'work' a bit better if you get me.

    probably wasting my time and I should just get rid... lol
  254. #254
    sell me the grill...

    Everyone steals my ideas
  255. #255
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaybiss View Post
    sell me the grill...

    Everyone steals my ideas
    how much?
  256. #256
    wheels should freshen it up. i think you should keep the lights and stick cold air feed through it.
  257. #257
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    how much?
    4.50 and a blow job

    pm me a price...

    and the colour as im sure mines a tranny and is quartz silver...
  258. #258
    needs lowering
  259. #259
    Should look nice and fresh with the wheels and grille. Just need some standard headlights next me thinks
  260. #260
    Looking good my man. As said on Facebook me likes the headlights but they dont seem to popular with the rest of zee bunch!
  261. #261
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    wheels should freshen it up. i think you should keep the lights and stick cold air feed through it.
    Now that's a plan... I want to keep the standard airbox and lob a green panel filter in it but modify the upstream ducting to improve the flow... that would be a minter actually...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaybiss View Post
    4.50 and a blow job

    pm me a price...

    and the colour as im sure mines a tranny and is quartz silver...
    sux 2 b u.... this is EZR silver (Arctic Silver).


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    needs lowering
    ummm... alex... dadsayer and mothersayer are coming to guildford tomorrow to celebrate 24 glorious years of my existence... he offered to bring down the new shocks a springs... decisions decisions...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Should look nice and fresh with the wheels and grille. Just need some standard headlights next me thinks
    Is this so you can buy them? naaa I think I'll have a crack with the lower coding of inner bit before I give up lolz.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Looking good my man. As said on Facebook me likes the headlights but they dont seem to popular with the rest of zee bunch!
    Im glad someone like them at least! cheers mate must catch up with you lot soon!!
  262. #262
    I dont think the headlights look that bad either tbf.
  263. #263
    sayer you know my feelings on the morette's buddy

    whens it coming down a little bit?
  264. #264
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I dont think the headlights look that bad either tbf.
    They don't look bad at all, I just want them on my car instead
  265. #265
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I dont think the headlights look that bad either tbf.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    They don't look bad at all, I just want them on my car instead
    haha... cool at least some of you like them

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 View Post
    sayer you know my feelings on the morette's buddy
    you wanted to rub the morettes vigorously against your genitals... I actually can't remember what you said about them?

    Not sure on the lowering (open question to you, alex and willsy tbh)... see I can do everything bar the torsion bar myself at Sayer Towers but I'd have to wait till easter, or I can up with kit one weekend (fortnight or something)... ummmmmm

    Actually I need to pick up a raceland manifold from wolverhampton in a fortnight... shit shit shit what to do
  266. #266
    Ads we can do it before Alex and Lee go off to Yankland if you want. The 4 of us can go crazytown on it and do a corner each, itll be done in no time

    What are you looking for from it, any thoughts on height? Ill assume by being an e-legend you wont be disappointing us by just fitting springs and that you'll have some form of proper kit inclusive of dampers?

  267. #267
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willsy View Post
    Ads we can do it before Alex and Lee go off to Yankland if you want. The 4 of us can go crazytown on it and do a corner each, itll be done in no time

    What are you looking for from it, any thoughts on height? Ill assume by being an e-legend you wont be disappointing us by just fitting springs and that you'll have some form of proper kit inclusive of dampers?

    when are they gaying off on their gay-honeymoon?

    I've gone for an Apex 35mm sports kit inc. dampers... It's no track car so the apex will do me well I feel... at least I hope!

    Fit the raceland as well... that could be fun...
  268. #268
    we comense the love cruise on the 26th mate
    and come back on the 13th
  269. #269
    Car is coming along awesoming'eningly Mr Sayer Man!

    Wheels will look loads better once they're on.

    If you need hand doing suspension at the garage I'm up for a play on the saxo. Alex will only want to stick his winkle in your petrol tank!

    Seriously though mate, awesome car, I like it with the morettes on! Keep them!
  270. #270
    get it right rich
    it goes in the magnex

    did you not see the channel 5 special?!
  271. #271
    Thought I saw you on the Alex!
  272. #272
    i was lurking behind the beetle stealing its innocence
  273. #273
    Wheels look spot on ads

    I am a big fan of the morettes I wanted them on my saxo but was to cheap to buy them LOL

    Can't wait to see it at the shows
  274. #274
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    we comense the love cruise on the 26th mate
    and come back on the 13th
    ooooooooooo meaning we could do it.... want dya reckon?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Skorpion View Post
    Car is coming along awesoming'eningly Mr Sayer Man!

    Wheels will look loads better once they're on.

    If you need hand doing suspension at the garage I'm up for a play on the saxo. Alex will only want to stick his winkle in your petrol tank!

    Seriously though mate, awesome car, I like it with the morettes on! Keep them!
    wow. cheers man! I just want to get it to a certain point before summer tbh... fingers crossed.
  275. #275
    Coming on nicely mr sayer, the ecu wont be long
  276. #276
    looking good ads, least you'l do more then 60 mph on the motorways now
  277. #277
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    you wanted to rub the morettes vigorously against your genitals... I actually can't remember what you said about them?

    Not sure on the lowering (open question to you, alex and willsy tbh)... see I can do everything bar the torsion bar myself at Sayer Towers but I'd have to wait till easter, or I can up with kit one weekend (fortnight or something)... ummmmmm

    Actually I need to pick up a raceland manifold from wolverhampton in a fortnight... shit shit shit what to do
    aha no i didnt but i had the same idea as you and colour coding the center recessed part surrounding the lights.

    a fortnights time would be cool dude we will be free anyways to do it before yankland as willsy puts it, then at easter when your getting your suction rig you can come back up to see us again aha

    ooo raceland mani any other mod's coming sayer, wouldnt it be best to get a decat pipe too and just refit your cat for mot's??? have a free flowing system for everyday use that way would also free up some little horses
  278. #278
    yee haa just had a PM from Steve (Badgersport) saying the Manifold should be being picked up tomorrow and delivered to Sayer Towers Guildford Division.
  279. #279
    looks rather good sayer

    do you need it fitting perhaps??
  280. #280
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    looks rather good sayer

    do you need it fitting perhaps??
    hahah... I think I'll be alright cheers dude - although it could be a right slag fitting so I hear???

    I decided not to bother getting the suspension kit down here - I'll just fit it at easter.
  281. #281
    its not too bad
    just pain as some of the bolts are a bit obstructed (that said my manis bigger than a raceland by a fair bit)
  282. #282
    ooooooo tasty stuff dude.
  283. #283
    Very nice purchase Sayer.
  284. #284
    Good purchase there sir.

    There not all that bad to fit tbh, just one or 2 nuts are a little awkward to get to and easier to get to them whilst laying under the car.

    Will drop you a PM when its collected.

    Cheers Ste
  285. #285
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post

    Anyway!
    New grille from a Desire... woooo

    hey that looks familiar lol
  286. #286
    i quote you from the RR day "im probs not going to mod this car. i like it as it is" LOL looking good sayer
  287. #287
    looks nice sayer. I like it.
  288. #288
    Get a new set of manifold-head bolts too dude, makes the job much easier cause the used bolts are so brittle from the heat
    1 user thanked this post:
  289. #289
    They're actually studs. Might want to remember that as bolts won't get you anywhere!
  290. #290
    Am sure I have seen people cut the studs in order to make the raceland manifold fitting much easier....

    In fact am sure it was only 2 bolts that needed this
  291. #291
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    They're actually studs. Might want to remember that as bolts won't get you anywhere!
    I'm the only stud in my world mate
  292. #292
    good job keep it up
  293. #293
    let me know when its down and we are attacking fitting gayer
  294. #294
    Coming along nicely dude!
  295. #295
    Some good updates Ads. Shocking to see you with a progress thread
  296. #296
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    I'm the only stud in my world mate
  297. #297
    Grille fitted!

    Before:


    After:


    front looks betta yar?

    Just got the car back from Andy (Luthor1) from Datashift who's developing the 3-plug Predator... My car ran on the Predator!!!

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  298. #298
    looks miles better dude, hows the car run with the predator? is it some good shiz?
  299. #299
    Looking good man ...

    How did the car run on Predator?
  300. #300
    Looks good Adam. Will it be coming on Sunday?
  301. #301
    whats teh future plans for it sayer
  302. #302
    Looking good Ad!!!
  303. #303
    No more info on the ECU bud?
  304. #304
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smiith View Post
    looks miles better dude, hows the car run with the predator? is it some good shiz?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Looking man ...

    How did the car run on Predator?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    No more info on the ECU bud?
    Thank you peeps
    r.e. the ECU Andy has been busy over the last four weeks with my car putting the 3-plug jigsaw puzzle together. He had the car idling on it no problem a couple of weeks ago now, since then the car has ran somewhere between 50-100 miles on the Predator.

    Then today I actually saw it start up with it Andy hooked the laptop to it and we were able to see every sensor that the ECU was reading from and what data it was pulling in.
    Andy had the radiator cooling fan set to 20oC so I could see it kick in a minute after the engine had started. Then set it to 90oC, and it just switch off the fan in an instant (was was less than 90oC obv.) then he showed me how the mapping procedure works. And set whatever idle we/saxo liked... all from the laptop. I'm dubious about most things usually, but this is seriously impressive lads...

    He even, very kindly, offered to let me drive with the Predator running... but I politely declined as time was a little short and as I'm going back there next week to check the coolant temp works I figure we might as well try it properly then - even though Andy has already put down some good mileage in it already.

    watch this space!

    Here's his thread.... http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...=190227&page=3

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Danr View Post
    Looks good Adam. Will it be coming on Sunday?
    feck. I'm in Devon.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    whats teh future plans for it sayer
    no idea mate! Just get it running and looking sweet really...!

    Still got this to do:
    Fit the 4-2-1 Raceland
    Fit the 266mm Setup
    Fit the EZR Painted VTS wheels
    Fit lowering kit.

    It needs:
    Tidy up of paint work
    Wide mouth
    smoked rears
    smoked morettes (lower coded)

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JamieB View Post
    Looking good Ad!!!
    Cheers man! how's that car of yours? Your sister must have finished Surrey uni by now n all?
  305. #305
    I saw your vts when I went to try out the single plug predator - you going for a predator? I'm going to be going for one with throttle bodies, and innovate wideband!!

    I drove the single plug with a base map on it and it ran very well tbh with just a bog standard base map on it!

    It's an impressive piece of kit ! You have to drive your car with it plugged in - when you look inside the ECU it's amazing to think that it controls your car's engine!
  306. #306
    look at old sayer go. hats off
  307. #307
    The grill makes the front end look alot tidyer.
  308. #308
    that grill suits it alot more, good work matey
  309. #309
    Excellent updates Ads. And sounds like the Predator is a winner! Awesome stuff.
  310. #310
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Cheers man! how's that car of yours? Your sister must have finished Surrey uni by now n all?
    shes in her final year mate, only goes to college on mondays and fridays and is back home for the rest of the week! ahs it easy!! Lol

    The beeza's going fine, not had any serious problems with her at all!! just the odd little niggly ones you get with new cars! shame your not going guildford meet on saturday, im actually gonna b there!
  311. #311
    when you wanting to schedule raceland homo?

    im off to cardiff today so no go this weekend
  312. #312
    Looks good mate,

    could you post up pics and feedback of the apex suspension once you got it fitted, just thinking of what set to get for my S in the future, just need some unbiased feedback and some pics of how it sits -35mm.

    James
  313. #313
    Sayer does that mean you are not coming sunday then?

    Car is looking good! When you lowering her? You keeping the morettes?
  314. #314
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    I saw your vts when I went to try out the single plug predator - you going for a predator? I'm going to be going for one with throttle bodies, and innovate wideband!!

    I drove the single plug with a base map on it and it ran very well tbh with just a bog standard base map on it!

    It's an impressive piece of kit ! You have to drive your car with it plugged in - when you look inside the ECU it's amazing to think that it controls your car's engine!
    Hopefully mate, I intend to get uprated cams in by the end of august, I haven't said no to TB's but it's unlikely really as the noise would just naff me off after a while.

    I saw the donkey ecu and the components that make up an engine controller and it's just daft! tiny little IC's that can do just about everything... there's a weight saving idea just there for people!


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bullit View Post
    look at old sayer go. hats off
    hai

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OLLYVTS View Post
    The grill makes the front end look alot tidyer.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by louis_23 View Post
    that grill suits it alot more good work matey
    Thanks guys
  315. #315
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    when you wanting to schedule raceland homo?

    im off to cardiff today so no go this weekend
    Tis alright I was in Devon till this morning anyway. Whenever really...!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jim-Bob View Post
    Looks good mate,

    could you post up pics and feedback of the apex suspension once you got it fitted, just thinking of what set to get for my S in the future, just need some unbiased feedback and some pics of how it sits -35mm.

    James
    James, that's no problem mate. I don't really want to lower my car, it handles fine as it is, only doing it because it'll look better. It'll be fitted end of the month or early next month

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mattchewone View Post
    Sayer does that mean you are not coming sunday then?

    Car is looking good! When you lowering her? You keeping the morettes?
    you might have seen, I didn't attend man, hope it was good though... Cheers! Lowering see above... yep keeping the morettes, they're looking better with the grille freshened... i think?!

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  316. #316


    250miles to half a tank... not even driving like a gimboid mpg-whore

    sad update i know.
  317. #317
    65mph photos eh?...

    Whats the battery light for?

    I found the immobiliser box this morning too, after disconnecting my alarm box first and having a heart attack when i put the wires back into it.
  318. #318
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    65mph photos eh?...

    Whats the battery light for?

    I found the immobiliser box this morning too, after disconnecting my alarm box first and having a heart attack when i put the wires back into it.
    well observed Sherlock... no my GF took the picture (genuinely) on my phone... As I was in a McRags Carpark at the time doing donuts...

    actually we were coming back from Devon today

    Battery light? My alternator is a gay... flashing intermittently, sometimes solid, a 1/2 second blip on the throttle sometimes clears it (can't do my mpg any good )

    Needs replacing soon... once I find a second hand one
  319. #319
    My MPG is balls just now.

    Currently i filled a full tank & then topped up 20 litres & i think its back at halfway ish just now &the odo is on about 350 miles.

    Town driving kills me
  320. #320
    My wallet is actually shaking at the thought of doing day-to-day town driving in that thing.
  321. #321
    I just leave my wallet in the car lol.
  322. #322
    Some good MPG there Sayer ... I couldn't even get close to that in mine.
  323. #323
    Just failed MOT on emissions so i guess im overfueling! Might help to explain how im using so much fuel.

    This weekend the predator will be getting my full attention i think! Get me poor car running spot on!
  324. #324
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Some good MPG there Sayer ... I couldn't even get close to that in mine.
    cheers man

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    Just failed MOT on emissions so i guess im overfueling! Might help to explain how im using so much fuel.

    This weekend the predator will be getting my full attention i think! Get me poor car running spot on!
    did you get it sorted in the end Jay?

    Raceland fitted, and what a fucking ball ache it was too.



    Car feels slightly slower(?) and a tad noiser

    might be getting removed if it keeps this up...
  325. #325
    Massive thanks to this geek as well!!!



    Ryan, you're a legend, thanks so much for the help yesterday
  326. #326
    how the fuck you getting 250 miles to half a tank, i get that to a full tank
  327. #327
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    how the fuck you getting 250 miles to half a tank, i get that to a full tank
    driving like a gay. Incidently, where did you relocated you lambda wire to... I'm a bit concerned about the fact that the wire just dangles near the nearside driveshaft
  328. #328
    Wahey tis the jumping man, like how he's stating the obvious... *cough* on stilts (that said, is it jacked one side and yet the passenger side still has that much room in the arch??? )

    250 miles to half a tank, pretty good going sayer. Were you stuck in traffic on the way back from devon? If so that's even better

    I'd give the raceland a while to bed in tbh, may notice a slight difference then.
  329. #329
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Massive thanks to this geek as well!!!



    Ryan, you're a legend, thanks so much for the help yesterday
    Holy crap, is that what a "itsafastworld" looks like? And I thought I was a lanky mofo.
  330. #330
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    did you get it sorted in the end Jay?
    Yeh, eventually. Std ECU back on, bottle of fuel cleaner & a bottle of cat conditioner through it too and it scraped it

    Car never got the attention it deserved unfortunately & someone threw half a mcflurry over it outside my gfs its not a good area.

    Spent the weekend buying & looking after fish & a salamander
    Also made a major fuckup on iMafia lol
  331. #331
    Hooray its on hows the power feel then mr sayer??
  332. #332
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    well observed Sherlock... no my GF took the picture (genuinely) on my phone... As I was in a McRags Carpark at the time doing donuts...

    actually we were coming back from Devon today

    Battery light? My alternator is a gay... flashing intermittently, sometimes solid, a 1/2 second blip on the throttle sometimes clears it (can't do my mpg any good )

    Needs replacing soon... once I find a second hand one
    checked the belt? mine did the same thing just the belt wo cracked and old.
  333. #333
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    driving like a gay. Incidently, where did you relocated you lambda wire to... I'm a bit concerned about the fact that the wire just dangles near the nearside driveshaft
    i still run standard manifold
  334. #334
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Holy crap, is that what a "itsafastworld" looks like? And I thought I was a lanky mofo.
    6 ft 6 and wearing sayers trousers FTL lol
  335. #335
    and adam I did say it would make more noise with the fannymould on.

    cant you cable tie the sensor wire off to another cable, mounting point to stop it dangling.
  336. #336
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shooorn94 View Post
    Wahey tis the jumping man, like how he's stating the obvious... *cough* on stilts (that said, is it jacked one side and yet the passenger side still has that much room in the arch??? )

    250 miles to half a tank, pretty good going sayer. Were you stuck in traffic on the way back from devon? If so that's even better

    I'd give the raceland a while to bed in tbh, may notice a slight difference then.
    I think I have already man, seemed a bit better after a few more miles last night... i think lol. Yeah he's a fucking giant bastard is ol' ryan.

    I actually prefer the off road look... looks the doggies

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Holy crap, is that what a "itsafastworld" looks like? And I thought I was a lanky mofo.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    Yeh, eventually. Std ECU back on, bottle of fuel cleaner & a bottle of cat conditioner through it too and it scraped it

    Car never got the attention it deserved unfortunately & someone threw half a mcflurry over it outside my gfs its not a good area.

    Spent the weekend buying & looking after fish & a salamander
    Also made a major fuckup on iMafia lol
    I made one just now... which is sad times to say the least. Glad the car made it though Wankers throwing a mcFlurry... I'm glad to see they didn't eat the filth, just a shame to dump it on your car

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR View Post
    Hooray its on hows the power feel then mr sayer??
    hahaha, if that's the hardest mod then I'll be happy i think. Power feels ummm... wasn't sure at first, mind you the oil doesn't hit temperature until 6 miles into a trip anyway so couldn't really test it. Then had a little blast with GF in and thought it felt better. But sounds like it's blowing, or that's actually the sound the Raceland makes the exhaust produce

    the last blast, felt mucho torque around 4-5k... but really I want to get it on the rollers and check it because it feels crappy now at 6-7k... but there is a difference between what is actually going on and what I 'feel' is going on... i think.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bytor View Post
    checked the belt? mine did the same thing just the belt wo cracked and old.
    I replaced the belt, it's just shitty lol but it hasn't flashed since i replaced the manifold

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    i still run standard manifold
    GAY. didn't realise I thought you had an 'uprated' one. not changing then?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    6 ft 6 and wearing sayers trousers FTL lol
    looking pimp

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    and adam I did say it would make more noise with the fannymould on.

    cant you cable tie the sensor wire off to another cable, mounting point to stop it dangling.
    I had a quick fiddle, but I'm guessing it's ok as it probably would have ripped up if it had touched the nearside shaft by now... but I'm still not happy so I'll have a reroute on wednesday. Going to our friends at Kwikfit on wednesday to bolt up the other spring/bolt thingy. Maybe get an emissions check to see if it's blowing or not


    Oh and....

    It's off to Andy (Luthor1) on Wednesday to do, hopefully, the signing off of the 3-Plug Predator ECU.

    Thanks for the comments peeps!

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  337. #337
    haha queer fit again.

    what was higher your car or your trousers
  338. #338
    Looks like some beast from Lord of the Rings does Ryan

    Sayer I am seriously interested in seeing if it produces more power, as I have said in previous threads the cars I have driven or been in with the Raceland manifold did feel slower then without one
  339. #339
    Food for throught is that on a 106 hill climb car the raceland produced more torque/power all over the rev range over a gmc. Although that was on a higher spec engine, where the OE manifold might be very very restrictive.

    And that this was the main reason everyone started going raceland. The different primary design to the OE one will of course change the characterisitcs of the engine slightly as it will be changing the pulsing quite a considerable amount aswell as the airflow characterisitcs.
  340. #340
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Looks like some beast from Lord of the Rings does Ryan

    Sayer I am seriously interested in seeing if it produces more power, as I have said in previous threads the cars I have driven or been in with the Raceland manifold did feel slower then without one
    It's going to Austec, middle of next month with the ZSOC people, they're the company who RR'd it when it was standard, so hoping to avoid figure errors from using different rollers.

    I think that the resonator box being back on might help some what, so I might have a crack tonight disassembling, then refit on wednesday and see what happens.

    The other thing might be that the ECU is in the process of compensating for the mani being there, so for time being the Air/Fuel might be a bit out but gradually it compensates and then corrects itself...
  341. #341
    on the plus side I've saved about 3kg's changing the standard manifold.
  342. #342
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    And that this was the main reason everyone started going raceland. The different primary design to the OE one will of course change the characterisitcs of the engine slightly as it will be changing the pulsing quite a considerable amount aswell as the airflow characterisitcs.
    you've reminded me actually. I need to measure the primaries on the standard mani...
  343. #343
    you saved 3kg getting me to change it dont you mean LOL!!!

    mr I cant undo the sensor in kwick fit

    measure the fanny yo!
  344. #344
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    on the plus side I've saved about 3kg's changing the standard manifold.
    Sod 3kg or whatever I said... I've saved about 10kg - damn that original manifold is heavvvyyyy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Looks like some beast from Lord of the Rings does Ryan

    Sayer I am seriously interested in seeing if it produces more power, as I have said in previous threads the cars I have driven or been in with the Raceland manifold did feel slower then without one
    Fear not Mr Brown, I didn't fit it properly, it was blowing at the Mani/Cat joint because I was too weak to get the bolts on ok... Kwit Fit saved the day

    It really runs nice now, not sure on the performance difference (certainly no worse than standard - 100% sure of that).
  345. #345
    Ah, excellent news Ads.

    I did seem a bit miffed about you losing power going with the Raceland mani.

    Yeah, the stock one is really hefty.
  346. #346
    Could of washed the car for today lol

    Looking forward to your pics mate, thankyou for taking them
  347. #347
    266mm Calipers arrive (Cheers AlexR) and did a quick pic - mucho thanks to the chineasy security guard who let me bugger around in his company's car park

    wooo


    and did this a little earlier


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  348. #348
    Your photography skills put "professionals" to shame.

    Car looks fooking awesome dude
  349. #349
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Your photography skills put "professionals" to shame.

    Car looks fooking awesome dude
    cheers man! Literally been waiting on some parts from italy for the last 7 weeks to complete the kit. But it works rather nicely I think!

    Can't wait to try it on other people's cars

    here's the original lol
  350. #350
    Don't you get shit up that your cam is just going to drop off?
  351. #351
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Don't you get shit up that your cam is just going to drop off?
    was using the spare so it's no bother really! The spare has been dropped, covered in jizz, squashed, covered in water etc you name it... it just keeps going lol
  352. #352
    whats your spare gayer? 10d?
  353. #353
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaybiss View Post
    whats your spare gayer? 10d?
    yup.. exif in the photo should still be intact mate.

    had a play of the sigma 24-70 f/2.8 btw....
  354. #354
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    mucho thanks to the chineasy security guard who let me bugger around in his company's car park



    ads
    some nice updates sayer mine felt slower with raceland mani on but felt better around 3000-4500k

    loving the moving photos too man, your rig nearly finished now then dude?

    when you coming down our way next?
  355. #355
    Cool updates buddy. The rig seems to create some very interesting shots, well impressed.
  356. #356
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Cool updates buddy. The rig seems to create some very interesting shots, well impressed.
    same as me rushy it impressed me
  357. #357
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 View Post
    some nice updates sayer mine felt slower with raceland mani on but felt better around 3000-4500k

    loving the moving photos too man, your rig nearly finished now then dude?

    when you coming down our way next?
    Yeah man, I'm really not sure about the raceland other than it's saved me about 10kgs of weight... arghhhh

    The rig is pretty much done, the rig is totally sturdy. I'm just waiting on one more part which will give me a lot more flexability where I can locate my camera, but that can take another 7 weeks for all I care!

    Not sure when I'm next coming your way, not for a while I don't think Manicmotors said they'd sort out the lower of my in exchange for some pics so thats pretty bo.

    Could always just pop up sometime and have a meet up if you fancied

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Cool updates buddy. The rig seems to create some very interesting shots, well impressed.
    Cheers man as I say this is only the second time I've had a go on it properly but as I'm getting used to it and more confident with it the results seem to improve which is cool!
  358. #358
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    yup.. exif in the photo should still be intact mate.

    had a play of the sigma 24-70 f/2.8 btw....
    you did? thoughts?

    mine arrived today...

    but im at kellys lol
  359. #359
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Yeah man, I'm really not sure about the raceland other than it's saved me about 10kgs of weight... arghhhh

    The rig is pretty much done, the rig is totally sturdy. I'm just waiting on one more part which will give me a lot more flexability where I can locate my camera, but that can take another 7 weeks for all I care!

    Not sure when I'm next coming your way, not for a while I don't think Manicmotors said they'd sort out the lower of my in exchange for some pics so thats pretty bo.

    Could always just pop up sometime and have a meet up if you fancied
    aha it saved me some weight too, i do like the power delivery it gives though and when my kent cam and port and polished head is fitted in the few weeks it'll help being cammed so ill have to wait a little bit to see.

    also going to be using an mls gasket thats 2.1mm rather than standard shite which should up my compression so im lead to believe mate talking to joshs bro and joshs dad

    good stuff on the rig mate i love the moving shots it gives man they look epic

    good shout from manicmotors there man, im sure you'll do them proud.

    well if you like once my cammed heads fitted ill need to run my new head gasket in anyways so ill take a drive up to guildford if you like for pub lunch and that.
  360. #360
    More stunning art work.

    Are you going to have the calipers sand blasted and re-furbed?
  361. #361
    Just awesome man! Looks like you're certainly refined it now ... Thumbs up dude!
  362. #362
    Love the photo mate.

    Shows that the wait for the rig is MUCH MUCH better than the cheapy copycat rigs.

    Saw it on FB flikr link.

    Could have cleaned the mud off the tyres mind you lazy git
  363. #363
    Love the moving rig ads, nice updates too man.
  364. #364
    Your. Pics. Rock.
  365. #365
    your car and your pics are awesome mate
    youve got some talent there
  366. #366
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 View Post
    aha it saved me some weight too, i do like the power delivery it gives though and when my kent cam and port and polished head is fitted in the few weeks it'll help being cammed so ill have to wait a little bit to see.

    also going to be using an mls gasket thats 2.1mm rather than standard shite which should up my compression so im lead to believe mate talking to joshs bro and joshs dad

    good stuff on the rig mate i love the moving shots it gives man they look epic

    good shout from manicmotors there man, im sure you'll do them proud.

    well if you like once my cammed heads fitted ill need to run my new head gasket in anyways so ill take a drive up to guildford if you like for pub lunch and that.
    Cammed?! I need to check the updates on your thread then! wowzers that's awesome! Yeah mate, that's no bother at all you're more than welcome to pop down. Thinking about it, it's not far out of my way at all to pop to Nuneaton when I'm going up to Northallerton as well... feeling a photoshoot???

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    More stunning art work.

    Are you going to have the calipers sand blasted and re-furbed?
    shit need to reply to your pm mate... totally forgot.

    Yep, we've got a shot blaster in the labs somewhere so I'm going to throw a few beers towards the technicians and get them done. I've got some yellow caliper paint knocking around somewhere too

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Just awesome man! Looks like you're certainly refined it now ... Thumbs up dude!
    Practice makes perfect I guess... Had a play today and got loads of snazzy positions I can attach it too woooo cheers man

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Love the photo mate.

    Shows that the wait for the rig is MUCH MUCH better than the cheapy copycat rigs.

    Saw it on FB flikr link.

    Could have cleaned the mud off the tyres mind you lazy git
    I jet washed it! You know what that bastard parking space is like though! haha cheers man, was worth the wait defo. best bit is the parts can be used for other things as well. yeehaa

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    Love the moving rig ads, nice updates too man.
    Cheers man! Hope that new car of yours is going ok

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamsax View Post
    Your. Pics. Rock.
    lol. cheers my dears.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LVC_VTR View Post
    your car and your pics are awesome mate
    youve got some talent there
    Thanks mate, just a good way of relaxing I find

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  367. #367
    that pic looks epic mate,

    bigger brakes are the way forward.
  368. #368
    Well, didn't even know you had an S matey - looking awesome!!

    And why do you and your skillz have to live so far away!
  369. #369
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Cammed?! I need to check the updates on your thread then! wowzers that's awesome! Yeah mate, that's no bother at all you're more than welcome to pop down. Thinking about it, it's not far out of my way at all to pop to Nuneaton when I'm going up to Northallerton as well... feeling a photoshoot???

    ads
    yes you did read correctly lol i will have a cammed 8v soon also did you check my progress thread without commenting on it you sly bugger. yea once my bumpers painted ill pop down if you like i fancy a decent drive out, or yea if your going to northallerton soon then yea drop me a text im sure youve got my number and we can meet up for a little shoot and a catch up would be ace
  370. #370
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    that pic looks epic mate,

    bigger brakes are the way forward.
    hope so! I neeeeed a passenger ride in yours when you've got those hi-specs put in x x x

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannyjay View Post
    Well, didn't even know you had an S matey - looking awesome!!

    And why do you and your skillz have to live so far away!
    you're enroute between G'town and N'ton for me man
    I've had it 5 months! haha

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 View Post
    yes you did read correctly lol i will have a cammed 8v soon also did you check my progress thread without commenting on it you sly bugger. yea once my bumpers painted ill pop down if you like i fancy a decent drive out, or yea if your going to northallerton soon then yea drop me a text im sure youve got my number and we can meet up for a little shoot and a catch up would be ace
    that's wicked man, nice one quality will be good to have a mess around.

    two from today nowt serious... just faffing around whilst gf was doing her dissertation.


  371. #371
    Easy bro, I like what you've done to her! I was speaking to Luke yesterday and I said I'd like to see it again so we should hook up in Guildford sometime soon. I got myself a new car now too as I had to give back the BMW I was using!

    Man the pictures look the nuts too by the way!

    Hope your cool man
  372. #372
    ha awesome man! I was in the car with Luke when you rang up on last saturday. No problemo at all. What's the new car??? Tell luke he's a pant-sniffer from meeeee
  373. #373
    Ha ha I'll tell him for sure. I got a Mini Cooper S Works which I absolutely love and I've had it about a month and I dont think I'll ever get bored of the supercharger whine!

    How's uni going?

    Yeah he said you were in the car together, I take it your in Guildford most of the time now right?
  374. #374


    Shadow = Fail

    Ps.... Have you sorted the error99s? Have you tried what i said about batterys, as shit ones in my flashgun caused ALOT of 99s
  375. #375
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    you're enroute between G'town and N'ton for me man
    I've had it 5 months! haha
    Holy poop, you are? *sniggers*

    No but seriously, I'm way off the game! Lol. Shocking really, as I thought you was a "d" peep!
  376. #376
  377. #377
    That picture is awesome!!!!
  378. #378
    Zee Rigg ROcKs!
  379. #379
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    No drivers.....?

    Is that a non-rig shot?

    It sure is pretty.
  380. #380
    3 of us pushing.

    WHY O WHY do I have to have the heavy fucking car with a hamstring injury!

    CUNT!
  381. #381
    looks like they are driving by themselves
  382. #382
    ad re manifold I totally feel your pain had to fit my miltek one today snapped a bolt and struggled with exhaust, didn't have a 22mm spanner for the lambda either so my car sound like a fattie riding a tractor so finish off tommorow I shall!

    btw those lights are sort of growing on me now
  383. #383
    pictures look cool man, the latest one taken in leapale road carpark by anychance?
  384. #384
    man you are awesome with a camera!!!
  385. #385
    car is looking great bud. your pics are emmence
  386. #386
    EZR'd VTS rimz fitted

  387. #387
    looks nice ads u got any plans for the morretes like the chops i done you ?
  388. #388
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamsax View Post
    No drivers.....?

    Is that a non-rig shot?

    It sure is pretty.
    yep as ryan said mate, we were pushing

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NICK2506 View Post
    looks like they are driving by themselves
    haha, yeah a slight downside to pushing...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    ad re manifold I totally feel your pain had to fit my miltek one today snapped a bolt and struggled with exhaust, didn't have a 22mm spanner for the lambda either so my car sound like a fattie riding a tractor so finish off tommorow I shall!

    btw those lights are sort of growing on me now
    They're growing on me as well too... I think with the colour coded grille the lights don't look as crappy. Honestly, I fear taking the damn thing off again.... nightmares in my sleep

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sunday View Post
    pictures look cool man, the latest one taken in leapale road carpark by anychance?
    erm! not sure mate! It's the multistory very near argos - probably the very place you're talking about lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    That picture is awesome!!!!
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Zee Rigg ROcKs!
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    man you are awesome with a camera!!!
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by olly_vts View Post
    car is looking great bud. your pics are emmence
    Thanks a lot guys! means a lot
  389. #389
    Really nice that mate ... Much better now.

    Just need lowering ...
  390. #390
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tazmania_0345 View Post
    looks nice ads u got any plans for the morretes like the chops i done you ?
    I think..... I'm going to keep them standard matey... I'd ideally like to get another set of the masks, so I can spray up another set with the silver around the outside and the black/grey. I think it'd look good, but it might be a bit too much for me!

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  391. #391
    much better looks very fresh indeed
  392. #392
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Really nice that mate ... Much better now.

    Just need lowering ...
    tomorrow hopefully if I've got some spare time...
  393. #393
    good lad, what setup you fitting?
  394. #394
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR View Post
    much better looks very fresh indeed
    Cheers man
    I kind of weirdly aren't too sure on them at the moment. I'm going to give the car a clean tomorrow if I can and see how it comes up.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo View Post
    good lad, what setup you fitting?
    on the lowering? Apex 35mm man
  395. #395
    Not a fan of those LED sidelights tbh.

    Is your dipped beam in the projector or reflector?
  396. #396
    Projector man. Main is reflector.

    Deliveryyyyy

  397. #397
    Awesome man ... Full replacement mount kit?
  398. #398
    Good progress, cars looking scweeeeet

    Ps i love your photographs and envy your ability and kit lol
  399. #399
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Projector man. Main is reflector.
    Well in that case take out both sidelights and just leave the dipped/main bulbs in. Don't ask why, just do it.
  400. #400
    Much better Adz! Wasn't sure about the other colour but the OEM look is good
  401. #401
    Much better on the new rims mate.
  402. #402
    looks great dude...morrettes actually suit it, yours and craigs (180s) cars really suit them

    who is fitting your apex kit? I have same one, and got bushes all round (powerflex ones)
  403. #403
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post



    erm! not sure mate! It's the multistory very near argos - probably the very place you're talking about lol






    opposite five&lime and the openair carpark? if so then yeah leapale road (or however you spell it) i think i might have seen the car in the lido a few days ago too?
  404. #404
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sunday View Post
    opposite five&lime and the openair carpark? if so then yeah leapale road (or however you spell it) i think i might have seen the car in the lido a few days ago too?
    Yep! that's the place.
    erm I hope it wasn't near the lido... never parked it there! I do know there is another Two Tone (VTR) that flys about guildford so could be that
  405. #405
    much better without the pikey sprayed vts wheels
  406. #406
    honestly... which fucktard did the black wheels? I could've done a better job with a Aldi paint brush and a can of Dulux.
  407. #407
    Clear your PM box GAYBOY

    Car look 100000000% better with the silver wheels on
  408. #408
    I had to lol at the masking tape still there.

    Honestly the amount of cunts on forums trying to charge silly money for a rattle can job when a proper refurb means you spray inside the wheel to stop them getting porous.

    Its hilarious.

    PS clear pms dickhead.
  409. #409
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Clear your PM box GAYBOY

    Car look 100000000% better with the silver wheels on
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    I had to lol at the masking tape still there.

    Honestly the amount of cunts on forums trying to charge silly money for a rattle can job when a proper refurb means you spray inside the wheel to stop them getting porous.

    Its hilarious.

    PS clear pms dickhead.
    membership went innit... I'll sort it in a jiff.
  410. #410
    I'll have your wheels with a side order of your photography skillzz pleazz

    Very nice captain
  411. #411
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Yep! that's the place.
    erm I hope it wasn't near the lido... never parked it there! I do know there is another Two Tone (VTR) that flys about guildford so could be that
    ahh, yeah that could possibly be the one then! quick Q for you as i'm guessing you do a fair bit of photography in Gtown'... a mate of mine is into all of it and was wondering do you know any locations (need to be able to park infront of or next to) with Graffity there? just he's got some idea he wants to try and pull off
  412. #412
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Awesome man ... Full replacement mount kit?
    Everything bar the ARB bushes... which I'll do after I see how the Polyrace bushes are. They're bloody rock solid!!!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jamie View Post
    Good progress, cars looking scweeeeet

    Ps i love your photographs and envy your ability and kit lol
    Cheers man It's good fun (and bloody tiring at times)

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    Well in that case take out both sidelights and just leave the dipped/main bulbs in. Don't ask why, just do it.
    why?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Much better on the new rims mate.
    Think so... just want to do something zainy with the old rims... ummmmmmm

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    looks great dude...morrettes actually suit it, yours and craigs (180s) cars really suit them

    who is fitting your apex kit? I have same one, and got bushes all round (powerflex ones)
    Chris at Manicmotors is doing the torsion bar and booked for the springs, but I've found a spring compression tool so I'm debating to do it myself...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamsax View Post
    I'll have your wheels with a side order of your photography skillzz pleazz

    Very nice captain
    hahaha, can't believe your car is having a complete respray
    awesome stuff

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sunday View Post
    ahh, yeah that could possibly be the one then! quick Q for you as i'm guessing you do a fair bit of photography in Gtown'... a mate of mine is into all of it and was wondering do you know any locations (need to be able to park infront of or next to) with Graffity there? just he's got some idea he wants to try and pull off
    Honestly man. no bloody idea, Guildford are shit hot on clamping down on graffiti and stuff, I can't think of a single place!
    soooorry I can't be anymore helpful!

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    p.s. pic with new wheelz on

  413. #413
    Much better Ads, that's a really good moving shot and the car just stands out better. I think morettes don't look too bad either now.
  414. #414
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Grr... your mint with a camera! Lol.
  415. #415
    Honestly looks so much better matey. Just is alot more fresh and clean looking with the silver S wheels. Fancy a track session soonish?

    BTW thankyou for the pictures.
  416. #416
    Looks much nicer on the silver wheels, those bushes will make a big difference as well.

    You have 266mm brakes? Edit: just read back you do.
  417. #417
    Adz looking tops !!
  418. #418
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Much better Ads, that's a really good moving shot and the car just stands out better. I think morettes don't look too bad either now.
    I kind of undecided actually mate! I'm so used to the black wheels they kind of ended up looking ok in the end! The car looks... well plain now

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CHIP View Post
    Grr... your mint with a camera! Lol.
    Cheers matey

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Honestly looks so much better matey. Just is alot more fresh and clean looking with the silver S wheels. Fancy a track session soonish?

    BTW thankyou for the pictures.
    Yeah! I need to book that one that you guys are doing later this month actually. Can't wait yo.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scribbles View Post
    Looks much nicer on the silver wheels, those bushes will make a big difference as well.

    You have 266mm brakes? Edit: just read back you do.
    Sup man bushes.... see below lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    Adz looking tops !!
    Cheers mofo!



    UPDATE:

    Rear bushes fitted.
    Nightmare.... for Yates
    Cheers to the bald mofo for helping/doing the rear bush fitting. Sadly... we errrrr destroyed an M12 bolt (one of the rear beam bolts!) So we've lobbed a b&q jobby in place for the time being... Hoping citroen are open tomorrow so I can get a replacement

    And the engine management light has flicked up... marvellous...
  419. #419
    Looks loads better with the Silver S rims chap.
  420. #420
    Standard procedure for the bloody EML ...

    Looking forward to seeing you out on track in the S.
  421. #421
    HAHA heard about the m12 bolt tonight LMAO is it a pain to fit? reason i ask is becuase i am fitting my powerflex ones tomorrow
  422. #422
    Looking good Ads, kind of wish Id gotten that 2-tone I looked at now sometimes.
  423. #423
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Looks loads better with the Silver S rims chap.
    cool stuff! I guessing there is mass support for the silver rims over the black ones!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Standard procedure for the bloody EML ...

    Looking forward to seeing you out on track in the S.
    Looking forward to it as well mate

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    HAHA heard about the m12 bolt tonight LMAO is it a pain to fit? reason i ask is becuase i am fitting my powerflex ones tomorrow
    Those polyrace are BLOODY SOLID. The powerflex have a little more give in them so they're slightly easier to fit. Straight forward task to do really. Just a sod.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris261287 View Post
    Looking good Ads, kind of wish Id gotten that 2-tone I looked at now sometimes.
    two-tone ftw!!!
    Although you end up turning into a psychotic mental case whenever you see an UTO (Unidentified TwoTone Object). Saw one in Northallerton (Sayer Towers Northern Location) and my blood boiled.... then I realised it was a VTR - all was calm again
  424. #424
    Im a psycho behind the wheel anyway lol. I just go all snobbish (in a Saxo, wtf???) when I see others as they are either 'Rs or 'less'. Yet to see another 'S since getting this.
  425. #425
    nice car
  426. #426
    17/04/09
    Crashed!











    Into Manic Motors for Lowering springs, dampers, polyrace front bushes & GTI Brakes fitting





    yay
  427. #427
    :O I had a heart attack!!

    You actually don't know how genuinely worried I just was!!!
  428. #428
    needs lowering

    xxx
  429. #429
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Matty_VTR View Post
    :O I had a heart attack!!

    You actually don't know how genuinely worried I just was!!!
    Blame mystic for that dude
  430. #430
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    needs lowering

    xxx
    needs hightening... it's too firm for me
  431. #431
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    needs hightening... it's too firm for me
    lol! you wish you had stayed OE now?
  432. #432
    Looks perfect mate.

    You happy with the ride quality etc?

    Needs a proper tax disc holder
  433. #433
    I was worried there for a second!

    For some reason I don't think the morettes suit the car anymore.
  434. #434
    Looking good now, how do the brakes feel?
  435. #435
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    I was worried there for a second!

    For some reason I don't think the morettes suit the car anymore.
    I was thinking the same thing too.
  436. #436
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    lol! you wish you had stayed OE now?
    naaa, just like a hawk with potholes now <best wide-eyed face there is.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Looks perfect mate.

    You happy with the ride quality etc?

    Needs a proper tax disc holder
    Ride quality is really good, not crashy in the slightest. Just a bit firm - but it's lowered so was else was I going to expect lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    I was worried there for a second!

    For some reason I don't think the morettes suit the car anymore.
    *ignores post*

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scribbles View Post
    Looking good now, how do the brakes feel?
    Still bedding them in mate, bit more travel than standard, but they're much more progressive and already feel like they have loads of bite

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    I was thinking the same thing too.
    *ignores post*


    Massive massive thanks to Chris and Father of Chris and Manic Motors for doing it all, their reputation doesn't need boosting anymore by me repeating the good words said about them by every saxp member on here. They're excellent period. Cam's will defo be going there to get the work done. Thanks Chris if you're reading
  437. #437
    Lush car matey, cant beleive i hadnt seen this thread sooner
  438. #438
    What lowering kit did you go for btw and how low? (Its probably been mentioned in the previous pages but I cba to look)
  439. #439
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    What lowering kit did you go for btw and how low? (Its probably been mentioned in the previous pages but I cba to look)
    first page homie
  440. #440
    I didn't even know Apex did a 25mm kit for Saxos
  441. #441
    Cars really coming on well Yate aaaaaii ermmmm Ads
  442. #442
    gaylord, i actually thought you had crashed it then. Glad you havnt.

    How does it feel with the new bushes?
  443. #443
    wheres the damage? pics please
    iJoke, i did see, and think the car looks sexxyyyy now! although i was seriously worried you'd binned it
  444. #444
    i want that 85mm

    hate you sayer
  445. #445
    You faggot, I thought the two-tone VTS became that little bit more rare then.
  446. #446
    /i knew you were lying, you don't drive quick enough to crash!

    Looking good bud
  447. #447
    looks really nice
  448. #448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fossie View Post
    Lush car matey, cant beleive i hadnt seen this thread sooner
    thanks man

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    I didn't even know Apex did a 25mm kit for Saxos
    Apparently they do, it's just the additional weight of the vts engine makes it go down a tad more.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Cars really coming on well Yate aaaaaii ermmmm Ads


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mark51 View Post
    gaylord, i actually thought you had crashed it then. Glad you havnt.

    How does it feel with the new bushes?
    The front is great, the car feels more 'connected' i guess is the only way I can describe it. The rear.... noiser... fine on smooth roads but god help you on bumpy roads.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaybiss View Post
    i want that 85mm

    hate you sayer
    you can buy the shitty inferior version for £350 i think

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris261287 View Post
    You faggot, I thought the two-tone VTS became that little bit more rare then.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashleyp View Post
    wheres the damage? pics please
    iJoke, i did see, and think the car looks sexxyyyy now! although i was seriously worried you'd binned it
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    /i knew you were lying, you don't drive quick enough to crash!

    Looking good bud



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Smogie View Post
    looks really nice
    Cheers man!
  449. #449
    very nice
  450. #450
    Looking awesome matey ... Not too low on the rear either.

    You liking it then?

    So you're going for Cams? Do Manic fit them and the like?
  451. #451
    Love it, looks awesome now.
  452. #452
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by emilyvts View Post
    very nice
    thanks emily!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Looking awesome matey ... Not too low on the rear either.

    You liking it then?

    So you're going for Cams? Do Manic fit them and the like?
    Cams are affirmative homie. I love the look of it. Popped to tesco earlier and kept looking at the car like a gayboy just admiring it. gaygaygay. We've got about 4-5 cars spread about the front of Sayer Towers, so I've lobbed mine on the front garden, dadsayer said there were a few people that were having a good stare as they walked by

    I asked chris about the price for cam fitting (will pm you it in a second), I could do with a cambelt change anyway (think this one has done 40k) and I'm tempted to get HG done as well at the same time (may as well!). I've got no real reason to come back to Sayer Towers until Christmas but I'd rather get them to do it than some random garage I don't trust down south. And it's a good price
  453. #453
    Getting there mr sayer, your progressing to fast for my likings
  454. #454
    Finally took the plunge i see Ads

    Wel worth it, car looks ace and im sure you'll enjoy it that little bit more now

    when u coming up this way again?
  455. #455
    cars looks mint lowered mate
  456. #456
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR View Post
    Getting there mr sayer, your progressing to fast for my likings
    I'm progressing too fast for my bank balance's likings as well haha

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willsy View Post
    Finally took the plunge i see Ads

    Wel worth it, car looks ace and im sure you'll enjoy it that little bit more now

    when u coming up this way again?
    Really really enjoying dude, had a drive down the country lanes, having to learn how the car rides and grips again but already it inspires a lot of confidence.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tazmania_0345 View Post
    cars looks mint lowered mate
    cheers matey!

    FERG... clear your inbox.
  457. #457
    ive told ferg to clear em yo!!!

    ps wheres the pics from the late night rig shit we did again the other day? I wanna see the angle i thought about
  458. #458
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    ive told ferg to clear em yo!!!

    ps wheres the pics from the late night rig shit we did again the other day? I wanna see the angle i thought about
    you mean the angle that everyone on Potn uses?

    which one was that? the one when we had Pete and his 205 with us
  459. #459
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    you mean the angle that everyone on Potn uses?

    which one was that? the one when we had Pete and his 205 with us
    that shoot we did a few more of my car..

    yes the one you said they use, I need to log back on to POTN see if its still shit.
  460. #460
    Looking good mate, really nice example of a VTS.

    Bet your air filter system is A*
  461. #461
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 View Post
    Bet your air filter system is A*
    it wasnt when we removed it the other week lol
  462. #462
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    it wasnt when we removed it the other week lol
    Details?
  463. #463
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 View Post
    Details?
    when changing the manifold the whole thing came out, and couldnt be fucked to refit it lol
  464. #464
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    when changing the manifold the whole thing came out, and couldnt be fucked to refit it lol
    I see what he means now by " i am only good at theory " lmao
  465. #465
    Nice one Ads, it looks really good. Is this all part of your track prep? I remember you saying that the car would remain completely standard when you bought it...

    What are you doing ECU / mapping wise then chap?
  466. #466
    So happy with Manic's effort Sayer.

    He really is good and above all you get sense out of the lad

    BTW his Dad is called John :}
  467. #467
    Looks very nice Ads

    I have the Apex 35mm kit on my car, and noticed how much bumpier it was (like you already said...its to be expected). I think its a great kit...especially for the price as well!

    Whats next on the cards then? Dont talk shit either by saying nothing LOL (I know you said cams, but are they next?)
  468. #468
    I'm thinking about getting an Apex kit myself. Is your saxo lowered 25mm or 35mm?
  469. #469
    Car looks really smart mate although personally not a fan of the Morettes. At least it's different
  470. #470
    Wait til Sayer comments on his brakes after the double track session LOL ...
  471. #471
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Wait til Sayer comments on his brakes after the double track session LOL ...
    lol! didnt go well with the 266s then?
  472. #472
    Errrm ... I think they did the job ... But OMG they were smoking like a chimney.
  473. #473
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Errrm ... I think they did the job ... But OMG they were smoking like a chimney.
    so he wasnt driving like a lady then?

    good stuff.
  474. #474
    Nah he was giving it some death round there ... Ask for a pic of his discs though LOL.
  475. #475
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Nah he was giving it some death round there ... Ask for a pic of his discs though LOL.
    good shit yo!! I thought he said he wasnt going to do track time in this either lol!! (I said he would).

    Has he cracked a disc?
  476. #476
    Nah one of them is scorched to fuck I think ... Also he needs a new tyre haha.
  477. #477
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Nah one of them is scorched to fuck I think ... Also he needs a new tyre haha.
    how the fuck has he killed a tyre? front left? was he just locking the brakes up and throwing it in like a go kart (lady sayer and his karting days )
  478. #478
    well they're DEFO bedded in now
  479. #479
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    well they're DEFO bedded in now
    aka Fucked?
  480. #480
    oh yesh. less than 1000 miles they've done
  481. #481
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    oh yesh. less than 1000 miles they've done
    lol what were you doing out there man. Shoulndt have destroyed them in 40mins of brands.
  482. #482
    bedding them in
  483. #483
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    bedding them in
    Why I like to let mine cool down in smaller stints

    Although mostly that was because I thought my brakes were fucked, which was actually the 1155s getting up to temp
  484. #484
    Haha LOL sayer man.

    The smoke was literally pouring off them when you parked on the pit lane.
    As long as you enjoyed it. S looked good on track though. Silver S rims are win.
  485. #485
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    The smoke was literally pouring off them when you parked on the pit lane.
    they usually smell fucking rancid lol
  486. #486
    LOL @ bedded in. That's certainly one way to do it...
  487. #487
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Haha LOL sayer man.

    The smoke was literally pouring off them when you parked on the pit lane.
    As long as you enjoyed it. S looked good on track though. Silver S rims are win.
    They looked mint smoking away haha

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    they usually smell fucking rancid lol
    yeah they smelt of complete and utter shit. last time I smelt that was when I went to the truck racing.

    the nearside front is scorched to buggery, literally I ran my key down it after I tucked her up for the week, it has a surface like the grand canyon.

    Oh well lesson learnt... takes a little longer to bed in pads and discs than I realised.



    Pics from AlexR (Thanks Alex!!!)






  488. #488
    I tried to ring you btw lady sayer to see when you were getting there.

    In the end i didnt get back from training till late so couldnt get pics sadly.
  489. #489
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 View Post
    Looking good mate, really nice example of a VTS.

    Bet your air filter system is A*
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 View Post
    Details?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    when changing the manifold the whole thing came out, and couldnt be fucked to refit it lol

    I sorted it out last week when I was back at sayer towers. literally ripped the intake into it's component parts then after a lot of swearing and forcing plastic/radiators to bend in ways they really shouldn't... it fitted up again all peachy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Nice one Ads, it looks really good. Is this all part of your track prep? I remember you saying that the car would remain completely standard when you bought it...

    What are you doing ECU / mapping wise then chap?
    haha... ECU will be the predator whenever that's ready mapping will be by Andy's then I'll tweak it at a Rolling Road back at Sayer Towers to get it to the absolute optimum.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    So happy with Manic's effort Sayer.

    He really is good and above all you get sense out of the lad

    BTW his Dad is called John :}
    They're legends, nice a refreshing to use a mechanics that:
    a) aren't cunts
    b) don't treat you like a mug
    c) know what they're doing
    d) follow up the service will a quick PM

    really can't rate them highly enough... everyone should head there in all honesty.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    Looks very nice Ads

    I have the Apex 35mm kit on my car, and noticed how much bumpier it was (like you already said...its to be expected). I think its a great kit...especially for the price as well!

    Whats next on the cards then? Dont talk shit either by saying nothing LOL (I know you said cams, but are they next?)
    next... paint work, then cosmetically it's done. Then a couple of engine tweaks next

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by charlie53 View Post
    I'm thinking about getting an Apex kit myself. Is your saxo lowered 25mm or 35mm?
    well I ordered the 25mm but it's down nearer 35mm. It's very firm, I swear it's firmer than Yates' VTS which has B8's on the rear but actually was rather nice and predictable around the track today

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PSPDan View Post
    Car looks really smart mate although personally not a fan of the Morettes. At least it's different
    Cheers man

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    LOL @ bedded in. That's certainly one way to do it...
    I'm not actually sure how to bed them in properly... might need a crash course on it for the replacement set...
  490. #490
    right I dont want a repeat of yesterday.... what disks and pads should i be buying???
  491. #491
    Nice pics out on track Ads!

    OK, are you sticking with the 266 set up?
  492. #492
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Nice pics out on track Ads!

    OK, are you sticking with the 266 set up?
    For me, I can't justify £500 on a brake setup matey. So yep I'll be sticking with the 266mm, actually when they havent been toasted they're pretty bloody good on the road loads more nibble than the 247mm's... poor brakes
  493. #493
    Jesus how'd you toast them sayer!

    Totally in need of new disks?... i like your style sayer

    Looks really good on track
  494. #494
    Looks nice on track. will hopefully join you and the shed guys on the next one!
  495. #495
    Looks shit... like your hair.
  496. #496
    Lol from Diesel Sayer to Mad S Sayer.

    Least you had fun bud.
  497. #497
    Sayer you were a nutcase taking a car on with brand new brakes that werent bedded in,
    didnt you read the "Bed in your brakes guide" on shed? lol!

    Well done yesterday man, you were flying!
    Gran Turismo certainly pays off ~
  498. #498
    car looks quite good on track...how did you find the Apex Sus brother?

    I dont know what disks people reccomend but i keep hearing Mintex 1144 pads are supposed to be awsome!
  499. #499
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Sayer you were a nutcase taking a car on with brand new brakes that werent bedded in,
    didnt you read the "Bed in your brakes guide" on shed? lol!

    Well done yesterday man, you were flying!
    Gran Turismo certainly pays off ~
    I went - i thought - gentle on them for the first half of the first session. When they were smoking afterwards and noticed the scoring. For the second session I thought 'fuck it' and ignored all the BRAKE signs on the track regretting it now

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    car looks quite good on track...how did you find the Apex Sus brother?

    I dont know what disks people reccomend but i keep hearing Mintex 1144 pads are supposed to be awsome!
    very nice actually. pain on the road, makes a better case for itself on the track.
  500. #500
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    very nice actually. pain on the road, makes a better case for itself on the track.
    I dont think they too bad on the road...just as hard as to be expected. Glad its ok on track as Im planning on going on a few times as well
  501. #501
    Get a set of racing pads for, er, racing! And get a set of normal ones for the road. Simples...
  502. #502
    Just stop being gay and buy some 4 pots. I know your trying to avoid going down the "typical" saxp route but I imagine you will in due time

    Looks like you had fun dude!
  503. #503
    sayer standard discs and mintex 1144 pads ive found are spot on for track use.

    Looks good on track. how did you find it?
  504. #504
    Looks spiffing on track ads
  505. #505
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Get a set of racing pads for, er, racing! And get a set of normal ones for the road. Simples...
    now that, is by far the best suggestion yet

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Just stop being gay and buy some 4 pots. I know your trying to avoid going down the "typical" saxp route but I imagine you will in due time

    Looks like you had fun dude!
    noooooooo way am I paying squllions on brakes dude. Trying to avoid the typical saxo route but I ended up buying a VTS so that's out of the window

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    sayer standard discs and mintex 1144 pads ive found are spot on for track use.

    Looks good on track. how did you find it?
    Great fun man, just wish I'd done the 20min and minimised the roasting sesh I gave the car

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    Looks spiffing on track ads
    Thanks man!


    Right I was keen to seen how the car was performing after fitting a magnex exhaust system and a raceland manifold.... the result.....

    an extra 5.2 hp at the wheels!!!! wooo



  506. #506
    sounded awesome, who cares about figures!!
  507. #507
    re toads suggestion. Surely swapping pads though wouldnt be the best due to the way they 'bed in' to the disc, so therefore the disc nature would change slightly from using one to the other and you would have to be wary again..

    although off 3 hours sleep I have a feeling im rambling for no real reason today
  508. #508
    decent gain mate, you not had it on motorscopes rollers?
  509. #509
    You ramble anyway tbh.

    How much to RR the car (roughly)?
  510. #510
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris261287 View Post
    You ramble anyway tbh.

    How much to RR the car (roughly)?
    Was £35 for 3 runs at austec in Crawley. Although the Sayer only got one run for some reason!

    (Maybe they thought his hair was too wild lol)
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  511. #511
    Sure you could get some 2nd hand ones and fitted for sub 500?
  512. #512
    Nice figures Sayer.

    I was asking Mike earlier what yours got as I was entriqued (sp). I'm trying to book mine on some rollers, wanna see what she is pushing out.
  513. #513
    Does the Magnex and Mani = loud exhaust note? or a nice tone?
  514. #514
    Nice results matey ...
  515. #515
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    Does the Magnex and Mani = loud exhaust note? or a nice tone?
    nice quiet but noticable tone.
  516. #516
    Raceland + Magnex is what I have, but no silencers and it sounds lovely. its a bit tinny, but agressive.

    good figures
  517. #517
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by D_Man View Post
    sounded awesome, who cares about figures!!
    I do! wanted to make sure I wasn't lowering the output of it.. so far so goooooodd

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    re toads suggestion. Surely swapping pads though wouldnt be the best due to the way they 'bed in' to the disc, so therefore the disc nature would change slightly from using one to the other and you would have to be wary again..

    although off 3 hours sleep I have a feeling im rambling for no real reason today
    good point.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jimbo06 View Post
    decent gain mate, you not had it on motorscopes rollers?
    naa man... I want to be consistent with the power runs I do. There is so much variance when it comes to different rollers across the county so if im going to make modifications and want to see whether I've improved the figure or not then I need to really be returning to the same rollers

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris261287 View Post
    You ramble anyway tbh.

    How much to RR the car (roughly)?
    it was £35 exc. VAT so £40.30 or something in total... I was a bit cheesed that they only took the one run and didn't even bother checking the AFR (which I was keen to see). fuckers.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mattchewone View Post
    Was £35 for 3 runs at austec in Crawley. Although the Sayer only got one run for some reason!

    (Maybe they thought his hair was too wild lol)
    they said because it was making the same as before then there was no point. yet the torque was 6lbft higher and the wheel power was 5.2hp higher... silly conversion factors

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Sure you could get some 2nd hand ones and fitted for sub 500?
    I wouldn't pay £200 to be honest man, for there really isn't any point i don't think!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Nice figures Sayer.

    I was asking Mike earlier what yours got as I was entriqued (sp). I'm trying to book mine on some rollers, wanna see what she is pushing out.
    quillions of Nm of torque no doubt!


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    Does the Magnex and Mani = loud exhaust note? or a nice tone?
    well my girlfriend has described it as 'non-chavvy', 'quite meaty', 'throaty', 'not loud' and 'doesn't sound like a Micra'

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Nice results matey ...
    cheers man! can you link me to yours again, i remember yours appearing to be lower than mine previously but I think I know why just need to see the power graph to confirm

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    nice quiet but noticable tone.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    Raceland + Magnex is what I have, but no silencers and it sounds lovely. its a bit tinny, but agressive.

    good figures
    True that to both of you guys, tinny yes, but seems to sound ok above 4k, at idle it sounds like a diesel.
  518. #518
    Ah yours is the same? I have been thinking there was a problem with my car!
  519. #519
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    cheers man! can you link me to yours again, i remember yours appearing to be lower than mine previously but I think I know why just need to see the power graph to confirm
    Couldn't find my graph anywhere but from the thread results ...

    Quote:
    Mine was ~

    132 BHP @ Fly
    97 BHP @ Wheel
    108 lb/ft Torque

    Max Torque - 6100 RPM/ 92 MPH
    Max BHP - 7405 RPM/ 112 MPH
    Why do you think?
  520. #520
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    Ah yours is the same? I have been thinking there was a problem with my car!
    naaaa it's just the gauge of steel that the manifold is made out of it tiny so it resonates quite badly which is why it sounds crrrrrrapppp lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Couldn't find my graph anywhere but from the thread results ...



    Why do you think?
    ooo errr i was expecting the max attained rpm figure to be a lot lower... Now this is what happened with mine the first time round... they didn't calibrate the rpm correctly the first time round on mine either... smacked the limiter at an apparent 7450rpm on mine at 111mph (when we know the limit kicks in at 7250rpm)... so my first run is garbage to be honest - what this means is the hp figures are higher than they actually are This time round, it hit the limiter at an apparent 7300 (so only 50rpm out) so the figure is a lot more closer to the actually figure been outputted to the engine. What this means is my gains are more than it appears which is cool.

    Does your de-cat have a faux box where the cat would normally be? the cat box itself also aided Engine Exhaust pulse tuning, without it your torque profile gets altered (usually for the worse) which was why I was thinking it was a bit low considering the other mods you had done.

    ads
  521. #521
    Right minor minor update really, not even worthy of mentioning but fark it.

    I fitted my comps back at christmas but was too lazy to mount the crossovers permanently... anyway after several issues with the speakers suddenly dying because the wires were frayed I decided to get that job over with... fitted yay


    At the same time I replaced a couple of door popper things because I'd shafted most of them and the front of the door card was loose now tightly fitted.

    Adjusted the brake pedal travel too... Now this has been top of my list since I bought the car but again, failed the 'could be arsed' test, today I passed... first attempt was well and truly over done and it left the brakes in a situation where they were permanently on, felt bloody good at stopping (obviously), not so good on my precious mpg anyway... now I sorted the 'overcorrection' these 266's are really showing there credentials off.... love love love them


    266's ROCK!
  522. #522
    car looked good on saturday man, also cheers for explaining the afr thingy to me lol
  523. #523
    Looking good Adam, it's been a while. Hope all is well
  524. #524
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    ooo errr i was expecting the max attained rpm figure to be a lot lower... Now this is what happened with mine the first time round... they didn't calibrate the rpm correctly the first time round on mine either... smacked the limiter at an apparent 7450rpm on mine at 111mph (when we know the limit kicks in at 7250rpm)... so my first run is garbage to be honest - what this means is the hp figures are higher than they actually are This time round, it hit the limiter at an apparent 7300 (so only 50rpm out) so the figure is a lot more closer to the actually figure been outputted to the engine. What this means is my gains are more than it appears which is cool.

    Does your de-cat have a faux box where the cat would normally be? the cat box itself also aided Engine Exhaust pulse tuning, without it your torque profile gets altered (usually for the worse) which was why I was thinking it was a bit low considering the other mods you had done.

    ads
    Mine always seems to have quite low figures on Rolling Roads ... It's strange. Well spotted about the whole max RPM thing. How on earth it's able to reach that when the hard limiter is set @ 7250 is beyond me. Makes me think all this Rolling Road business is bollocks.

    I'll just have to get my car on their rollers again once it's cammed and see what the difference is. It goes ok on the road so can't complain.

    R.E De-Cat ~ Haven't got a faux box ... The de-cat is just a straight flow pipe from the manifold to the Magnex centre section. Agreed I think this is why the torque figure is lower, but mehhh.
  525. #525
    good stuff ads, i would have been screwing if they id taken mine and they only did 1 run on it, wouldnt pay.

    Goin BHP?
  526. #526
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    At the same time I replaced a couple of door popper things because I'd shafted most of them and the front of the door card was loose now tightly fitted.
    Where did you get those? My passenger door card is exactly the same.
  527. #527
    Yes, RRs are good for camparisons of your own engine alterations, and also tuning. One off visits can leave you more puzzled than you started off with!

    Good increase in max BHP Ads. How did other things change, such as the torque in general, and BHP through the RPM range?
  528. #528
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jamiemackie View Post
    car looked good on saturday man, also cheers for explaining the afr thingy to me lol
    thanks dude. Yeah sorry about that... all a bit of a blur as I was crapping myself that my engine was going to blow was I bangin on about 'omg it's at 18!!' ?!!? hahah

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by James View Post
    Looking good Adam, it's been a while. Hope all is well
    Now mate! Yeah things are going well cheers mate. Hope everything is cooooooool.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Mine always seems to have quite low figures on Rolling Roads ... It's strange. Well spotted about the whole max RPM thing. How on earth it's able to reach that when the hard limiter is set @ 7250 is beyond me. Makes me think all this Rolling Road business is bollocks.

    I'll just have to get my car on their rollers again once it's cammed and see what the difference is. It goes ok on the road so can't complain.

    R.E De-Cat ~ Haven't got a faux box ... The de-cat is just a straight flow pipe from the manifold to the Magnex centre section. Agreed I think this is why the torque figure is lower, but mehhh.
    could be just that then... but yeah the figures are bollocks if the company doesn't set the rpm right

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo View Post
    good stuff ads, i would have been screwing if they id taken mine and they only did 1 run on it, wouldnt pay.

    Goin BHP?
    It's quite far out for me dude (not normally one to be put off by mileage), and I think I'm busy that weekend anywayz

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by charlie53 View Post
    Where did you get those? My passenger door card is exactly the same.
    Citroen, 22p each

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Yes, RRs are good for camparisons of your own engine alterations, and also tuning. One off visits can leave you more puzzled than you started off with!

    Good increase in max BHP Ads. How did other things change, such as the torque in general, and BHP through the RPM range?
    I've just had a quick check and... here's what I can see...

    Area under torque profile has increased (good for overall drivability/OTR performance).
    Significantly less torque below 3000rpm (almost 12ftlb less at 2000rpm! but less of a difference as you climb the revs)
    More torque above 3000rpm to limiter - most gains between 3500-5000 (extra 7lbft roughly in that area).
    6lbft increase in peak torque to 114.6lbft.
    wheel power 5hp increase at peak... overall more area under the wheel power profile.
    Wheel drag power has reduced by 4 hp at peak... and only reduced between 6600 and limiter, the rest of it is almost bang on the same... my guess is that on the first outing my front wheels weren't balanced which would have increased loading and unloading forces on the rollers per revolution of the wheel (worse effects the faster they're spinning), as a result increasing the wheel drag up top, this is good also from the fact that the bigger brakes aren't having a significant effect on the wheel inertia either.
    Overall though... improvements right where I want them so I'm happy. haha
  529. #529
    Yeah man, very good results!
  530. #530
    Very good figures on the RR dude. I would be very chuffed with anything like that. I need to get mine done once i've put my de-cat back on.
  531. #531
    I wouldn't bother with a decat mate!
  532. #532
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    I wouldn't bother with a decat mate!
    How come? Because of the noise? I liked it tbh. Had to take it off for the MOT though.
  533. #533
    because I've yet to see any benefits in terms of power output dude! They sound pretty wicked though!
  534. #534
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    because I've yet to see any benefits in terms of power output dude! They sound pretty wicked though!
    fair play. I thought they were meant to give a good gain - obviously not lol
  535. #535
    Be interesting to put mine on same rollers, similar setup, but with a straight pipe from mani to backbox..
  536. #536
    Easy Sayer, really like what you've done with her and glad your enjoying ripping it up everywhere you go! Must meet soon with Luke for a beer......
  537. #537
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    because I've yet to see any benefits in terms of power output dude! They sound pretty wicked though!
    When you need things flowing more freely, like when moving to a higher spec cam, you will need the cat removed, that's for definite Ads.
  538. #538
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by olly_vts View Post
    fair play. I thought they were meant to give a good gain - obviously not lol
    as said above to Ferg, if the catalytic material is removed from the box (so you decat with a faux box instead of a straight pipe), then I can imagine some gains (although not as much as people suggest).

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    Be interesting to put mine on same rollers, similar setup, but with a straight pipe from mani to backbox..
    get yourself down and we'll have a comparison... I'd be interested!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sparky5522 View Post
    Easy Sayer, really like what you've done with her and glad your enjoying ripping it up everywhere you go! Must meet soon with Luke for a beer......
    Sup man! Defo! Luke is back in Gtown from July, more than welcome to give me a call and pop by for a meet up!


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    When you need things flowing more freely, like when moving to a higher spec cam, you will need the cat removed, that's for definite Ads.
    I'm not sure it is for definite man! I think removing the backboxes and leaving the Cat would be better than the traditional way.... I'd like to know where a lot of this information regarding tuning comes from... I'm sure most of it stems from a time when new technologies were introduced and were, at the time, more restrictive but I don't think it applies to the same extent these days... anyway onwards with the research!!!!
  539. #539
    In that thread i posted about backpressure... google said that its about velocity, not pressure.
  540. #540
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    In that thread i posted about backpressure... google said that its about velocity, not pressure.
    in the flow of gas, they're very heavily related mate... when the exhaust valve opens you have a high pressure point at the cylinder and the low pressure point at the atmosphere. the higher the difference between the pressure da fasta da flo.......
  541. #541
    Vroom. straight over my head.

    All i know is this smaller bore Magnex is much better than the Ashley. the 1/4" made a huge difference.
  542. #542
    Good results from the RR, wheel figure is pretty good up by 5bhp and a decent increase in torque. Do you know how the torque is calculated on the RR, the force it spins up the rollers?

    I got my raceland induction kit fitted which so far the only thing its done afaik is make more noise. Fitting my OMP Inox next weekend see if that makes a difference, straight through so I can see it pushing the power and torque up the revs. Once I get a manifold I'll try to get another RR result see what the outcome is.
  543. #543
    had a read through nice work there just out of curiosity how much did you pay for the vts alloy refurb ? they look great on the car
  544. #544
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    Vroom. straight over my head.

    All i know is this smaller bore Magnex is much better than the Ashley. the 1/4" made a huge difference.
    think of a hoover in reverse

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scribbles View Post
    Good results from the RR, wheel figure is pretty good up by 5bhp and a decent increase in torque. Do you know how the torque is calculated on the RR, the force it spins up the rollers?

    I got my raceland induction kit fitted which so far the only thing its done afaik is make more noise. Fitting my OMP Inox next weekend see if that makes a difference, straight through so I can see it pushing the power and torque up the revs. Once I get a manifold I'll try to get another RR result see what the outcome is.
    It's a weird one mate... it outputs directly the horsepower (so it calculates straight from the force and angular velocity of the rollers), problem is that if the rpm is set incorrectly (which I'm sure it is) the error creeps in - making comparisons bloody hard work

    Thankfully I have a flat spot on both at bout 3000rpm so I work backwards and work out relative difference in horsepower throughout the rev range hopefully!


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nuttysaxo View Post
    had a read through nice work there just out of curiosity how much did you pay for the vts alloy refurb ? they look great on the car
    It was £140 for the four alloys dude!

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  545. #545
    cars coming along dude, you and ferg will be a great little battle on track when your both cammed up.

    Oh and removing a cat on a small engine will probably loose a little teeny bit of torque but will free up the cars ability to rev
  546. #546
    do we have the clutch fitted yet or what lol
  547. #547
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by evans1089 View Post
    do we have the clutch fitted yet or what lol
    no we don't! I'm waiting on a gearbox coming yee haa... once I find a suitable late VTS one
    Thanks once again man!

    da cluch.


    Did a few things at the weekend (nothing major)...
    before:


    after


    then attacked the exhaust... I'd been get pretty cheesed off with the exhaust as it was resting on the lip of the bumper (rattled like blazes at rpm).... sooo


    powerflex exhaust mounts to the rescue...


    yay...
  548. #548
    Verr nice
  549. #549
    very nice mate, number plates have made the front look much cleaner.

    what gearbox are you after??
  550. #550
    I need those mounts, my exhaust does my head in down a bumpy road, also your number plate.

    Funny thing is, those 2 mods are the next 2 for my saxo.
  551. #551
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamsax View Post
    Verr nice
    ta man!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    very nice mate, number plates have made the front look much cleaner.

    what gearbox are you after??
    thanks dude. Well I'm after an 1.4XSI final drive (or 1.1 doesn't matter too much)... So I've been chatting to Mankee Cheng who's going to rebuild a box with an XSI final drive but also a VTR 5th Gear so good for motorway cruising!
    So I'm after a spare VTS box (has the sports gears) then replace the 5th gear. then lob in the XSI Final drive.
    Thought I had a 03 VTS gearbox but I missed the damn auction

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    I need those mounts, my exhaust does my head in down a bumpy road, also your number plate.

    Funny thing is, those 2 mods are the next 2 for my saxo.
    it's the simple things that tend to go make the bigger impressions I guess! Also make me happier too

    Car is booked in with the sprayers for a shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiteeee load of things doing too
  552. #552
    Good job Plates smarten up the front too!
  553. #553
    How much were the mounts and were from?

    They are universal ones?
  554. #554
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BenjaM View Post
    Good job Plates smarten up the front too!
    Thanks man... I agree! much less busy on the front

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    How much were the mounts and were from?

    They are universal ones?
    Powerflex ones? Universal yeaaa... Got from the ripseedy section of halfords... I took the old rubbers off and chopped them so the tubes act as stopped for the powerflex ones (so the powerflex ones don't jangle around). so far so good
  555. #555
    Interesting Mr Adam interesting.

    No diff in the old box?
  556. #556
    If a Quaife group buy comes up then yep!
  557. #557
    Are heading down the track sort of look here?
  558. #558
    naaaaa maybe once or twice a year but nothing serious. just fancy one that's all
  559. #559
    So, no stripage, or buckets seats etc.

    Performance with comfort, is that what your aiming for?
  560. #560
    absolutely no strippage, no buckets seats, no garbage. Just good engineering theory (hopefully) behind all decisions that I make.

    Performance with comfort... exactly that man couldn't have put it better really!
  561. #561
    Has your spreadsheet been released yet
  562. #562
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    absolutely no strippage, no buckets seats, no garbage. Just good engineering theory (hopefully) behind all decisions that I make.

    Performance with comfort... exactly that man couldn't have put it better really!
    Nice to see someone with fucking sense for once Sayer, Believe me.

    Hope it all works out in the end, One will be keeping his eye on this little beasty!
  563. #563
    i have a vts box, from a 2001 vts, removed it a few months back because of worn synchro, and generally wants a re-built if its any good to you pm me.
  564. #564
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    Has your spreadsheet been released yet
    Nope I'm afraid not man, won't be for a while. I've got too much on at the moment... maybe end of the june if I'm lucky. I can't seem to nail the acceleration figures (in 1st and 2nd)... thought I'd missed a variable or two in the clutch and engine inertias (purely guessimates you see) but starting to think my wheel power figures are wrong or my tyre data isn't quite right. It's good for estimates and seeing just how much improvement you can get from say... lighter flywheel, gearbox change, engine mods (if you know the new output figures) but needs a hell of a lot of tidying!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Nice to see someone with fucking sense for once Sayer, Believe me.

    Hope it all works out in the end, One will be keeping his eye on this little beasty!
    Hopefully man! It won't be anything special, but for me it's more about getting the car to a stage where I'd imaged Citroen should have released a Saxo VTS if they hadn't
    a) been french
    b) thus tight
    c) had EU regs stuffed in their face
    d) take toddler's doodles on wallpaper and sign them off as 'final designs'

    I'm doing this all on a cheapo budget too, so mods won't come in thick and fast on this and so it'll be on going for a while but once it's done it'll just be a case of keeping up to date with maintenance and a million or so repairs that it'll need no doubt.
  565. #565
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    i have a vts box, from a 2001 vts, removed it a few months back because of worn synchro, and generally wants a re-built if its any good to you pm me.
    That might be too early a year mate, but I'll find out!

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  566. #566
    I have a spreadsheet with my pod times if you want them.

    All the 60ft, 330ft, 1/8th mile etc, for 9 runs..

    I don't know what you have for a standard VTS time but I was running 15.5s to 16s
  567. #567
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    That might be too early a year mate, but I'll find out!

    ads
    is there a code on it somewhere that may be helpful for you to find details on it??
  568. #568
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    I have a spreadsheet with my pod times if you want them.

    All the 60ft, 330ft, 1/8th mile etc, for 9 runs..

    I don't know what you have for a standard VTS time but I was running 15.5s to 16s
    that sounds about what I was getting man! As I say it's actually pretty close, but it's just 1st and 2nd which are slightly out.
    fuck... engine power. I've just realised.

    fuckfuckfuckfukcufkcufkcufkcuf

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    is there a code on it somewhere that may be helpful for you to find details on it??
    yes please man, any of that sort of thing would be brill!
    ads!
  569. #569
    will find the code out for you mate and pm you later today
  570. #570
    Well, I think my S runs standard power, even though it has modifications haha. I will email it over to you, might be useless, might not be.
  571. #571
    Looking good sayerr, will never be as good as your wicked whiteboy fro' though
  572. #572
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    So I've been chatting to Mankee Cheng who's going to rebuild a box with an XSI final drive but also a VTR 5th Gear so good for motorway cruising!
    Let me know how that goes.

    I PM'd on the SSC a year or two ago about that and he put me off of doing it.

    I thought it was a good idea at the time and I guess I'll be able to see if it is if you get it done.
  573. #573
    Always liked the two tones, thought I'd do a quick PS of what I'd possibly do. I'm sure someone has already done this but hey.

    Before:


    After:
  574. #574
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    will find the code out for you mate and pm you later today
    any luck dude?!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smiith View Post
    Looking good sayerr, will never be as good as your wicked whiteboy fro' though
    I have short hair now
    yo

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TonyA View Post
    Let me know how that goes.

    I PM'd on the SSC a year or two ago about that and he put me off of doing it.

    I thought it was a good idea at the time and I guess I'll be able to see if it is if you get it done.
    He's fine with it, but it's just an arse ache searching for a late gearbox. 51 gearboxes are too early

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TonyA View Post
    Always liked the two tones, thought I'd do a quick PS of what I'd possibly do. I'm sure someone has already done this but hey.

    Before:


    After:
    mate that's well cool!!! cheers for that!


    right boyz.... late this evening my new shoes arrived for the paxo, not your usual shitty proxies...



    huge arse gap


    paxo has gone to K M Design in Darlo for a few bits and bobs done to it.

    should be back friday, saturday or monday
  575. #575
    sorry mate, had totally forgotten, the box is at work, will pm you the number on the box tomorrow morning
  576. #576
    Nice sayer!

    Nothing wrong with proxes though
  577. #577
    Nooiiice.
    good job swapping those baldys out lol.
  578. #578
    Nice tyres

    I have the Primacy HPs, very good tyres.
  579. #579
    LOL those tyres will last longer than your car will.
  580. #580
    Pilots? Random choice dude? Looking shexual though
  581. #581
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    If a Quaife group buy comes up then yep!
    see shed fool

    pretty sure there trying to organise one!


    and yes that was almost a month ago but still get it done you fanny
  582. #582
    looking good as always ad, good shoes as well, apparently they don't come in 185/55/14 fitment for my r rims
  583. #583
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    sorry mate, had totally forgotten, the box is at work, will pm you the number on the box tomorrow morning
    awesome cheers man

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamsax View Post
    Nice sayer!

    Nothing wrong with proxes though
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Nice tyres

    I have the Primacy HPs, very good tyres.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo View Post
    Pilots? Random choice dude? Looking shexual though
    I've thought about it and naaa to proxes, false economy, they get grip through a soft-ass tread, thus don't last very long, noiser, not great in the wet.

    when a pilot is around twice the price and yet lasts well over the twice the distance it's a dead cert win for the michey's, throw in better wet handling, quieter road noise and pretty sweet grip in the dry it's even more a tip top choice - no point in throwing money at the car and then skimping on the only thing that attaches it to the road yo

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Nooiiice.
    good job swapping those baldys out lol.
    dadsayer 'encouraged' me to get them replaced... actually more yelled down the phone at me, then I had grannysayer ring telling me she was worried I was driving 'bald tyres' and I should get them replaced yada yada. never seen the family go so bananas before


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    LOL those tyres will last longer than your car will.
    how long did yours last in the end man? my rears are still original Pilots, 20k miles on a VTS, 30k miles on the Derv, 10k miles on my VTS... 60k miles so far

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    see shed fool

    pretty sure there trying to organise one!


    and yes that was almost a month ago but still get it done you fanny
    my names on the list ya plonkwaaa

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    looking good as always ad, good shoes as well, apparently they don't come in 185/55/14 fitment for my r rims
    naaaa they stopped making them for the VTR rims dude... some sort of energy tyre or something now
  584. #584
    Hahaha 69,000 miles and counting. Still got a good 4mm left I reckon.
  585. #585
    should we contact michy and tell them they've created the worlds longest lasting tyre???
  586. #586
    Haha I think we should ... I think the tyre wall will die before the thing needs replacing because it's got no tread left. And they've done numerous track sessions.
  587. #587
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TonyA View Post
    Always liked the two tones, thought I'd do a quick PS of what I'd possibly do. I'm sure someone has already done this but hey.

    Before:


    After:
    colour coding wing mirrors really is ghey
  588. #588
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    naaaa they stopped making them for the VTR rims dude... some sort of energy tyre or something now
    yeah i know - and from what i've heard its not a fantastic tyre either.....

    i'm wearing p6000's - far better than the shitty firestones it had but there is still room for improvement.....
  589. #589
    Them tyres looking good, how much a tyre dude?
  590. #590
    I was going to ask same, how much?

    Black Circle is £77 a corner.
  591. #591
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    I was going to ask same, how much?

    Black Circle is £77 a corner.
    I paid £162 for a pair including delivery from black circles yo
  592. #592
    what you getting done at KM? I may pop down and have a peek at the weekend!
  593. #593
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Matty_VTR View Post
    what you getting done at KM? I may pop down and have a peek at the weekend!
    I'm hoping to have it back by Saturday dude! Unlikely though.

    Debadge
    Deaerial
    Delock
    Degrille (widemouth)
    Delacquer peel (16v removal horror)
    And general freshen up of the paintwork
  594. #594
    You have too much money.

    Got an idea of time for the cams yet?
  595. #595
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jorge- View Post
    you have too much money.

    Got an idea of time for the cams yet?
    fcs???
  596. #596
    Not going I am afraid... in london 10th - 13th and then wales over the weekend.
  597. #597
    those tyres are quality mate, got a set all round on my S, cant fault them, never so much as the car tweeked in either dry or wet
  598. #598
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    Not going I am afraid... in london 10th - 13th and then wales over the weekend.
    you've told me that before... and I ignored you.

    ok... collect monday??? x x x

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashleyp View Post
    those tyres are quality mate, got a set all round on my S, cant fault them, never so much as the car tweeked in either dry or wet
    Just fitted them and christ I never expected to feel a difference Anyone who buys budget tyres is a complete and utter pleb quite frankly...

    Michy's fitted! you've all see a tyre on a wheel so no pic...

    other stuff...

    degrilled!


    debadged!


    delocked!


    deaerialed!


    and according to my girlfriend i'm now 'degirlfriended' because I've spent too much time on the car

  599. #599
    Very nice man, feeling the removal of everything lol. Looks great, especially the arial.

    How about colour coding the boot lock too? Looks a bit out of place now. And maybe getting some form of grille for the front bumper incase something big gets wanged through it and cunts up your fan
  600. #600
    oh and I haz a decat pipe which I need to put on when I can be arsed.
  601. #601
    nice updates mate, looks good!
  602. #602
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo View Post
    How about colour coding the boot lock too? Looks a bit out of place now. And maybe getting some form of grille for the front bumper incase something big gets wanged through it and cunts up your fan
    I have some mesh which I need to sort out tonight or tomorrow... reluctant to use tigerseal or stickaflex to bond it on, but I'll have a look tonight at it properlyyy.

    That's a good point... never thought about that looks like a poopshoot on the back of the car now. Needs to go back for some other things I want doing around christmas time so I'll get that done then as well.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    nice updates mate, looks good!
    cheerz
  603. #603
    Really smart dude.

    Would look much better without the rear wiper - pain in the arse though as I use mine haha.
  604. #604
    Hya Mr Sayer, the box ive got has now turned out not to be a genuine S box, which explains why it now accelerates better with its new box fitted.

    Loving the de-aerialed roof.
  605. #605
    I love the car but Im not a fan of de-badging tbh.

    Offers on ex-GF?
  606. #606
    Looking nice dude ... Some serious money being spent on this now. Never would have thought it ... And going to fit a de-cat? Thought you werent a fan?
  607. #607
    Sayer?? Tree hugger with a decat... awesome contradiction lol

    Loving the smoooth mods, its quite refreshing nowadays lol as OE is all the rage
  608. #608
    looks really nice body work looks spot on
  609. #609
    smoothed Ariel looks sweet man, thats something i wouldnt mind getting done in the near future!
    and front grill loooooks sweet!

    keep it going
  610. #610
    haha at the GF......

    sayer you are a big style whore now.

    Have you not told her the de locking is for her security when shes in it?
  611. #611
    car is looking great mate. love the smoothing. wanna get my aerial smoothed over as well
  612. #612
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LeeumH View Post
    Really smart dude.

    Would look much better without the rear wiper - pain in the arse though as I use mine haha.
    I can't get rid of the wiper, i have this complex where if there is a button on the car that functions but doesn't actually operate anything (say because the rear wiper has gone) I go doolally and hit someone... also I actually use my rear wiper too

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    Hya Mr Sayer, the box ive got has now turned out not to be a genuine S box, which explains why it now accelerates better with its new box fitted.

    Loving the de-aerialed roof.
    argh bummer dude! no worries anyway!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris261287 View Post
    I love the car but Im not a fan of de-badging tbh.

    Offers on ex-GF?
    bag of space raiders ono.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Looking nice dude ... Some serious money being spent on this now. Never would have thought it ... And going to fit a de-cat? Thought you werent a fan?
    it was £500 for the everything including rear quarter resprayed due to lacquer peel, morettes resprayed and everything above, load of dosh I suppose but it really needed doing because the car was looking pretty tatty. decat was a surprise purchase after going round to Ronnies to buy his driveshafts... o hai u haz decat...
    *takes*

    I'll give it a try anyway, I've amassed:
    1x decat
    2x Cats (one doesn't meow though)
    2x Magnex Centre sections
    1x magnex backbox
    1x misc backbox possibly cherrybomb (on loan till I can detach it from the centre section)

    so I've currently got a set for MOT use and a set for playing about with. if it blows then I'll revert to the MOT setup and leave it.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    Sayer?? Tree hugger with a decat... awesome contradiction lol

    Loving the smoooth mods, its quite refreshing nowadays lol as OE is all the rage
    I'm offsetting my carbon footprint innit... I figured because I'm researching into shizzle that'll save the human race I'm allowed to pollute more than everyone else

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tom5190 View Post
    looks really nice body work looks spot on
    thanks man, it certainly looks a lot fresher and less busy which is groovy i guess

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR View Post
    smoothed Ariel looks sweet man, thats something i wouldnt mind getting done in the near future!
    and front grill loooooks sweet!

    keep it going
    lets face it, saxo aerials seem to pass water through them like a storm drain so I figured it's best to get rid and be done with it... there was probably a cheaper solution but hey ho!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    haha at the GF......

    sayer you are a big style whore now.

    Have you not told her the de locking is for her security when shes in it?
    I told her women should be seen and not heard





  613. #613
    Looking slick Mr sayer
  614. #614
    good updates mate just spent an hour and half reading this thread
  615. #615
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by silversaxo113 View Post
    good updates mate just spent an hour and half reading this thread
    should've just looked at the first post dude
  616. #616
    Im liking the de-badging mate. i need to get mine done soon.
  617. #617
    Nice mate....

    I shoulda looked into getting mine de-arieled before the respray.

    You on track @ eff see ess?
  618. #618
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    should've just looked at the first post dude
    its ok great progress over time though
  619. #619
    Looks like they have done a good job of the bits they have done Ads. Did they repray the whole of the panels (for instance with the door did you have the complete door done when they delocked it). As you cant see any signs of them blending paints in in just the areas you had done.
  620. #620
    looks quality matey, cant wait to see it at fcs.
  621. #621
    Good lad my sayer im impressed and jealous, you go fcs yea?
  622. #622
    Looking good
  623. #623
    euro whore?
  624. #624
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by olly_vts View Post
    Im liking the de-badging mate. i need to get mine done soon.
    I'm liking it too except the boot lock... looks crap at the moment

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamsax View Post
    Nice mate....

    I shoulda looked into getting mine de-arieled before the respray.

    You on track @ eff see ess?
    you should've!!! out of all of it everyone comments most about the aerial being off it.

    tracking? negative!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by silversaxo113 View Post
    its ok great progress over time though
    thanks man

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Looks like they have done a good job of the bits they have done Ads. Did they repray the whole of the panels (for instance with the door did you have the complete door done when they delocked it). As you cant see any signs of them blending paints in in just the areas you had done.
    my sisters bf is into his spraying and bodywork and stuff (currently finishing off a complete rebuild of his 1970's VW camper bus ), and he had a look and said it was some of the best work he'd seen. Which is good news I guess!

    not sure if I'm honest mate, you cant tell at all where it's been blended so I'm guessing he may have done the entire doors!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joehow12 View Post
    looks quality matey, cant wait to see it at fcs.
    cheers man, can't wait for FCS

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo View Post
    Good lad my sayer im impressed and jealous, you go fcs yea?
    yea boi

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ocego_VTR View Post
    Looking good
    you should see my car then x x x

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashleyp View Post
    euro whore?
    no idea! Leeroy put it rather well... but I can't remember what he said.

    Basically I'm aiming to have the saxo how it should've come out of the factory had the frenchies not been such skanks.



    Couple more updates today:

    Decat pipe fitted... it pops and sounds chavvy... not cool, feels a bit quicker but nowt amazing, no idea how the mpg will be affected so it's staying for a little.

    Bought a 'windscreen aerial' to replace the one that was removed, but no way in hell was I putting some dirty box on my windscreen. So I've lobbed it in between the roof and the roof lining and wired it down. Best bit is it's a powered aerial so the signal is much better than standard... and you can't see it

    pow.
  625. #625
    Good work that sounds like a good idea mate

    When you goin? Sat night?
  626. #626
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post

    Bought a 'windscreen aerial' to replace the one that was removed, but no way in hell was I putting some dirty box on my windscreen. So I've lobbed it in between the roof and the roof lining and wired it down. Best bit is it's a powered aerial so the signal is much better than standard... and you can't see it

    pow.
    Radio 2 can once more be enjoyed by lady sayer then.
  627. #627
    Smoov as a groove home bwoy.

    Liking that a lot
  628. #628
    Well as said dude it looks a great job! Hopefully see it some time this show season.
  629. #629
    Good progress sayer !!! Looks very very nice.

    Has the decat really made it louder? Mine didnt seem affected by it, apart from a few pops everynow on run down around 3k revs.

    The backbox you may have described as cherrybomb could be mine.....if so its from AAS a highly respected Engineering company.....it did get very loud though toward the end (just scraped a db pass at croft)

    Anyhow the sax is looking very very very noice
  630. #630
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo View Post
    Good work that sounds like a good idea mate

    When you goin? Sat night?
    yeaaaaa I'll be there around Saturday afternoon all being well

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Radio 2 can once more be enjoyed by lady sayer then.
    Classical FM babyyyyyyyyyy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Smoov as a groove home bwoy.

    Liking that a lot
    cheers man

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Well as said dude it looks a great job! Hopefully see it some time this show season.
    you're going to FCS non?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    Good progress sayer !!! Looks very very nice.

    Has the decat really made it louder? Mine didnt seem affected by it, apart from a few pops everynow on run down around 3k revs.

    The backbox you may have described as cherrybomb could be mine.....if so its from AAS a highly respected Engineering company.....it did get very loud though toward the end (just scraped a db pass at croft)

    Anyhow the sax is looking very very very noice
    Thanks dude! Slightly louder at full throttle... blubbles like a mofo on cold

    Yep that's yours dude, it's in the shed at sayer towers safe and dry awaiting your collection.


    Just a couple of pics of whole car as I haven't posted any since I'd had the bodywork done...





    cheers!

    ads
  631. #631
    Long time no speak, so that axel fitting was for nothing!!!!

    Liking it alot mate.... looks lurvvvvely
  632. #632
    Fast road performance, but with comfort is what I think I said.

    Its looking rather good Mr Mop. Nice, clean, fresh and crisp I like it.
  633. #633
    Very nice Sayer, like the progress.
  634. #634
    that last pic looks mint! Infact im sorry but im gonna have to have my car aerial removed, just makes the roof look so much better.

    Where did you get the interior aerial from??

    James
  635. #635
    Jubbly Sayer. Looking very posh indeed.
  636. #636
    that looks very very tasty matey
  637. #637
    Silver twin fanz needed mate
  638. #638
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JimoVTR View Post
    Long time no speak, so that axel fitting was for nothing!!!!

    Liking it alot mate.... looks lurvvvvely
    ahhh Jimo. I miss your face x x x

    no the axle fitting wasn't for nothing. I did another 10k miles since the beam was fitted... just everything else on the car turded up so I sold it quick

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Fast road performance, but with comfort is what I think I said.

    Its looking rather good Mr Mop. Nice, clean, fresh and crisp I like it.
    Yep that's it!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Very nice Sayer, like the progress.
    ta

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    that last pic looks mint! Infact im sorry but im gonna have to have my car aerial removed, just makes the roof look so much better.

    Where did you get the interior aerial from??

    James
    If I ever get another saxo then I'll deaerial it straight away... deaerial ftw. standard aerial is pants, it's effectively a giant hole that soaks your interior light. James, it's a Halfords Glass Mount Aerial... although I've lobbed it in the gap between where the base of the old aerial was and the interior light console... plumbed the earthing wire to the spare map light connector dangling in the console and ran the aerial and powerfeed through the passenger side to the radio easy peasy


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Jubbly Sayer. Looking very posh indeed.
    thank you kindly toadus

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joehow12 View Post
    that looks very very tasty matey
    brilliant cheers!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamsax View Post
    Silver twin fanz needed mate
    naaa, no point really dude!


    Well just boshed out 300 miles with the decat on... <4k rpm there is now FOCK ALL torque, >4k rpm there is lots and lots.... which means the engine is more racey, which is shit But otherwise drives very well in the power zone.

    Those tyres are fucking fantastic too, really complement the uprated bushes and stiffer suspension. Ive got a nice light and precise steering response, road noise is about the same as before, but over potholes you don't get that muted 'boing' sound now.

    Best bit is got 280 miles to half a tank... so this is a mega result because a) when you put new shoes on your mpg is supposed to drop circa 2-8%
    b) I didn't know the effects of the decat.

    so I'm guessing it's a combination of decat and tyre - maybe a little less drag from the deaerial too - Guys... top tip, don't buy shit tyres, best money I've spent on the car so far.
  639. #639
    Awesome mpg. What roads did you achieve that on? Id assume DC/MW?

    RE - potholes. I just got 'thump, thump' when I twatted one the other week. Now have a tiny split in the wall on the p/s front wheel and a nice flashing airbag light I cant stop
  640. #640
    In theory, the de-cat should push the power upwards in the rpm range a little, but I'm suprised you've noticed a big drop lower down. Hmm...

    Crazy MPG, just crazy!
  641. #641
    55mph on motorway? Good mileage home boi. Combo of tyres, good servicing and engine oil and maybe even decat?

    Car looks very well. God damm you for building a tasty sax
  642. #642
    looking good ads ! looks mint now after the bodyshop...
  643. #643
    Yeah it's the pulse tuning which is causing it. Because I've replaced the cat with a straight bit of pipe the expansion box is now the centre section. So chances are the negative pressure at the ports would be higher up. Judging by the torque characteristics the theory seems to support what's going on. I didn't go over 4k for the entire trip so I'm guessing that even though there was a positive pressure at the ex. port the flow charcteristics were such that the pulse at part throttle was only causing a slight drawback in comparison.

    Need to get it back on the rollers to see what the poweroutput is like now though...

    based on previous runs, 270 miles to a half tank is well above 50 mpg. The route was m1-a1-cock up through worksop-m1-m42-m5-then an hour twistys.
    Not the perfect run which is even better news
  644. #644
    Did you not take a standard cat and bash the insides out Mr S?
  645. #645
    thanks for the info on the aerial mate. Getting the roof smoothed on 1st. Will be going halfords over the weekend to get the amplified aerial.

    James
  646. #646
    No FCS this year. Hopefully catch up soon.
  647. #647
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    55mph on motorway? Good mileage home boi. Combo of tyres, good servicing and engine oil and maybe even decat?

    Car looks very well. God damm you for building a tasty sax
    nope! just stuck to 70... and a 14 mile stretch of roadworks where I was forced to 50mph

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by baker556 View Post
    looking good ads ! looks mint now after the bodyshop...
    thanks bro!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Did you not take a standard cat and bash the insides out Mr S?
    nope, still got the standard cat but I'm not entirely convinced the cat is knackered (think the 2nd lambda might be duff) so I've sleeved the second lambda, reset the MIL and waiting to see if the MIL kicks in again... if it kicks in chances are the lambda is gone and the cat is actually ok, if it stays off the cat is buggered. In which case I'll trash the living daylights out of the inside of the cat and refit it.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    thanks for the info on the aerial mate. Getting the roof smoothed on 1st. Will be going halfords over the weekend to get the amplified aerial.

    James
    Awesome stuff... let us know when it's done

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    No FCS this year. Hopefully catch up soon.
    boooo rushy.... serious booo. No worries though man, always trax or a westmids meet if I get the chance.
  648. #648
    Roadworks around Nottingham? Dad mentioned something yesterday.

    Michelins rock and I agree with you about better tyres, I have seen an increase with both remap and new tyres.
  649. #649
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Yeah it's the pulse tuning which is causing it. Because I've replaced the cat with a straight bit of pipe the expansion box is now the centre section. So chances are the negative pressure at the ports would be higher up. Judging by the torque characteristics the theory seems to support what's going on. I didn't go over 4k for the entire trip so I'm guessing that even though there was a positive pressure at the ex. port the flow charcteristics were such that the pulse at part throttle was only causing a slight drawback in comparison.

    Need to get it back on the rollers to see what the poweroutput is like now though...

    based on previous runs, 270 miles to a half tank is well above 50 mpg. The route was m1-a1-cock up through worksop-m1-m42-m5-then an hour twistys.
    Not the perfect run which is even better news
    That's a very interesting point Mr Sayer.
  650. #650
    looks awesome Matt. Really liking it.
  651. #651
    Emm, I have a funny feeling a cat with the insides bashed out and then refited its gonna sounds like the worst powerflow exhaust ever mate, really tinny
  652. #652
    I've brokendown yo
  653. #653
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    I've brokendown yo
    Go on....
  654. #654
    O rly?
  655. #655
    hope you have a brolley!!
  656. #656
    OH haiii mr aa man!
  657. #657
    Info on brakededown?? What have you managed to break?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    The route was m1-a1-cock up through worksop-m1-m42-m5-then an hour twistys

    I take it you stuck to the A57 and didn't actually come through worksop? Or was that the cock up and you came through worksop? In which case, gutted.
  658. #658
    I hope his hair doesn't get wet ... Will take him all day to dry it off again.
  659. #659
    Shitcakes !
  660. #660
    In danger of getting a suntan and that's about it at the moment fuckers!
  661. #661
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    I hope his hair doesn't get wet ... Will take him all day to dry it off again.
    Did you not read about his haircut on shed D
  662. #662
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Did you not read about his haircut on shed D
    I thought that was all rumour ...

    So what has actually happened?
  663. #663
    He wont show pics, I suspect hes had his extensions put in now
  664. #664
    But dont his legendary locks hold all his super powers????
  665. #665
    Is the loss or torque at low rpm because there is no back pressure and higher up the rev range it pulls better because there is no restriction and gases are flowing more 'freely'?
  666. #666
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    Is the loss or torque at low rpm because there is no back pressure and higher up the rev range it pulls better because there is no restriction and gases are flowing more 'freely'?
    More to do with pulse tuning from not having an expansion box earlier in the system.

    Which is why straight through systems are not allways the best despite people thinking so. They forget pulse tuning which is very very important.
  667. #667
    OH whats occurring?
  668. #668
    Well erm I knew when I bought the car that the alternator was a bit dodgy but figured as it was occasionally dodgy I'd just run it into the ground... Well judgementoth of thy alternator hath cometh.

    First sign that the paxo wasn't happy was when the abs light came on (?) then flicked off 10 seconds later followed by the instrument panel suddenly shitting itself (all dials went to zero), then immediately kicked in again (yo) with the abs and airbag lights up. Unphased by paxo throwing a hissyfit at me I continued onward with my journey

    ...for about 10 bloody seconds before I realised my dials had frozen in a glorious patriot to windows ninetybastardeight. Anyway pulled over thinking I could rescue the sickly paxo from it's automotive bluescreen of death by doing a cheeky restart and yonking the negative terminal from the battery. It reset the dash. Yay. But would it start. Would it fuck.

    Battery had no jungle juice.

    Ah well RAC are fitting me a new one for free.
    Weather is nice and sunny too.
  669. #669
    Double post
  670. #670
    I'm on iPhone btw. Which sucks
  671. #671
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    I'm on iPhone btw. Which sucks
    Iphone - gay

    Kinda knew you would be on the phone though
  672. #672
    Ah, nothing major then. Good stuff.
  673. #673
    my dials went crazy one time they jsut all zero'ed mid journey. no speed revs petrol or heat.... whilst i was driving..... sadly they never came back on for quite a while. atleast your getting it fixed for free.... cant be bad!
  674. #674
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Roadworks around Nottingham? Dad mentioned something yesterday.

    Michelins rock and I agree with you about better tyres, I have seen an increase with both remap and new tyres.
    yep they've been there for bloody ages now... 14miles of roadworks, WTF?!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    That's a very interesting point Mr Sayer.
    ya... I could go into more detail but I think it'd be lost on most of saxp/shed to be honest.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaybiss View Post
    looks awesome Matt. Really liking it.
    fuck you x

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Emm, I have a funny feeling a cat with the insides bashed out and then refited its gonna sounds like the worst powerflow exhaust ever mate, really tinny
    like a stainless steel manifold... wouldn't sound much different I'd think man.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by titchster View Post
    I take it you stuck to the A57 and didn't actually come through worksop? Or was that the cock up and you came through worksop? In which case, gutted.
    A57 dude... must have been I think... basically A1 across to M1 just below M18 (I forgot to pull off onto the M18)

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tom5190 View Post
    my dials went crazy one time they jsut all zero'ed mid journey. no speed revs petrol or heat.... whilst i was driving..... sadly they never came back on for quite a while. atleast your getting it fixed for free.... cant be bad!
    It's mad when it happens.... It happened once when I knocked the key slightly, just turned it back on and away I went... but it was crazy this time round...

    anyway a snippet from yesterdays events.

    Stuck on the A358 at Illminster weather was lovely though


    RAC man pulling out the old alternator


    The new alternator going in!


    So... I now have a brand spanking new alternator, fitted for free by the RAC.
    Seriously though, RAC are fcuking wicked, I pay £5 a month for my Barclays Graduate Account which gives me New for Old iPhone insurance and RAC Roadside cover... Best £5 a month I've ever spent highly recommended.
  675. #675
    Barclays were trying to sell me that cover the other day on my account, might be something worth looking into now, especially as I'll have the mile muncher VTS tomorrow.

    VTS wheels Sayer, let us know cheers.
  676. #676
    how much was the alternator then if they fitted it free?
  677. #677
    well worth it after yesterdays events. I thought they'd just tow me to the nearest garage and f-off again and leave me picking up a bill for a horrendously overpriced second hand alternator and fitting charge. But no the guy was like 'right, we can tow you to home, charge your battery and follow you home, or I can take the old alternator out, go get new one, put the new one in for you...'

    option 3. win.

    Luke, they're black, crap, and have no tyres.
  678. #678
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    how much was the alternator then if they fitted it free?
    £156 I paid.
  679. #679
    oh and got 54.6mpg from the saxo last run I did.

    pow.
  680. #680
    Bit of a shitter going is the alternator stupid later ones have a different plug on them and they always seem to be more expensive then older ones.
  681. #681
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    oh and got 54.6mpg from the saxo last run I did.

    pow.
    thats awesome mate, you must have a very light foot
  682. #682
    your MPG is amazing man. It feels like i dont get much more than 40 from a 1.1
  683. #683
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Bit of a shitter going is the alternator stupid later ones have a different plug on them and they always seem to be more expensive then older ones.
    An E46 M3 alternator costs £500 before fitting apparently.... I've been told not to complain about any of the costs incurred in running a saxo from now. I'm relieved it didn't cost over £200 which was what I was expecting when the fcuker brokedown

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    thats awesome mate, you must have a very light foot
    It's not even that mate, it was 70mph all the way. I've yet to do an MPG adventure at 50-55mph (although it's pretty draining on time and concentration doing properly)

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roj View Post
    your MPG is amazing man. It feels like i dont get much more than 40 from a 1.1
    I'm a bit of a cockhead when it comes to mechanical sympathy that's all dude... basically
    Fully Synthetic Oil
    Use Super Unleaded
    Check all easily accessible moving parts regularly
    don't buy shite anything for a car
    use good (and I MEAN good) tyres and pump them up to the correct pressure
    Don't rag the car from cold (EVER)
    only apply well proven modifications to the car

    and that's it really!
  684. #684
    I just spent £40.31 on petrol.

    Ill kill myself if I dont get Sayer-style mileage from this tank.
  685. #685
  686. #686
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    He's fine with it, but it's just an arse ache searching for a late gearbox. 51 gearboxes are too early

    mate that's well cool!!! cheers for that!
    No problem, look forward to hearing what the 'box is like if it gets done and if 4th-5th is as bad as Mankee said it'd be.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    colour coding wing mirrors really is ghey
    As are you homme boy
  687. #687
    naaa it's about 500 rpm difference dude.... twill be all groovy.

    Well I spoke to mankee at FCS and he said he could do a early gearbox as well now lol just I've ran out of money till the end of the month now... gayyy.

    Funny I was thinking about posting an 'ideas update' on the car...

    Guys... I'm throwing this out and hoping for some good input here... ignoring engine stuff, what exterior/interior mods could I do without going OTT?

    Thanks

    ads
  688. #688
    Exterior:
    -de-badge
    -10shit mirrors
    -de-lock doors

    That's subtle stuff imo

    Interior depends, if you want full interior then black a,b and c pillar covers from a 106 and then spray headlining black? Just a thought..
  689. #689
    dont do painting the main mirror unit it looks utter wank.

    Colour coding could be done but again it looks shit imo.

    Leave it how it is cosmetically you queer
  690. #690
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rey View Post
    Exterior:
    -de-badge
    -10shit mirrors
    -de-lock doors

    That's subtle stuff imo

    Interior depends, if you want full interior then black a,b and c pillar covers from a 106 and then spray headlining black? Just a thought..
    I've delocked, deaerial (see above pic), debadged and degrilled it. 106 mirrors... no... great... how about smoked fogs?
  691. #691
    smoked fogs wont work with the clear lenses in the morrrrretes
  692. #692
    fuck it... leave the exterior as is then... doesn't look too shit I suppose.
  693. #693
    its a mk2 it wont look shit, only mk1s do that
  694. #694
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    its a mk2 it wont look shit, only mk1s do that
    No comment lol

    Are you still doing the grill / gap in front of the fan to stop the deer going in there?
  695. #695
    Sayer car looks the tits how it is on the outside. Maybe some lovely new seats?

    Would it be possible nearer the end of summer to have some pictures of my car taken for a fee?
  696. #696
    Having looked at your car and studied it. Dont do anything more to the exterior. Looks tops.
  697. #697
    You'll probably not agree Ads but I always felt that loosing the fogs completely looks very smart, fair bit of weight saved too.

    106 mirrors do look better than the chunky Saxo mirrors. Two cheap but effective mods there, nothing lairy about either of them.

    Dumbo Ears:




    Fogless:



    I know deep down you want some slight cosmetic changes, hence the thread title change/thread bump!
  698. #698
    I personally think your car is perfect as it is now Sayer.

    I'd concentrate on engine mods now and little bits on suspension, uprating stuff.
  699. #699
    The suspension is fine I think... most of it is uprated bar the TorsionB, ARB's and ARB bushes, the ARB bushes are the one thing I do need - cheers for the reminder! lol

    rushy cheers man... I think I'll keep the fogs, I never use them but it pains me massively if I have a control in my that'll activate nothing... same for dewipering. I had 106mirrors on the derv and actually pretty soon after buying them I craved the saxo mirrors back, but cheers for the suggestion though!

    Picking up my cams later today... rave on.
  700. #700
    I don't think 106 mirrors look that good from the inside personally, I prefer the Saxo mirrors.

    You are like me with the dewiper, I'm leaving stuff like that on my car.
  701. #701
    Whats the actual aim for the car Ad's? Just something drivable day to day but that can also be used on track?
  702. #702
    Which cams ads?
  703. #703
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    I don't think 106 mirrors look that good from the inside personally, I prefer the Saxo mirrors.

    You are like me with the dewiper, I'm leaving stuff like that on my car.
    I quite liked the curved ends of the mirrors (actual mirrors), was great for blind spots... wonder if I can get some shaped for the saxo mirrors

    yeah... I'd like it off, but I actually use the wiper so I'd rather not remove it.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Whats the actual aim for the car Ad's? Just something drivable day to day but that can also be used on track?
    performance with comfort and the odd track stint... But mainly it's for pimping outside a McRags drive-thru. so has to make 14 years cream spontaneously cream their knickers.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    Which cams ads?
    PH-FREEEEEZ
  704. #704
    they rock !!! Dont run well unmapped at all, once mapped - brilliant!
  705. #705
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    That pic is awesome man
  706. #706
    When you back home Sayer?

    Think I may pop up your way...
  707. #707
    don't do anything to the exterior bud, just concentrate on performance mods, i like the morrettes by the way
  708. #708
    Damn. That's some pic Ads. The one of Rushy's on the rollers is even nicer...
  709. #709
    agree with toads comment

    sayer, your bump strips look WOW.
  710. #710
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    they rock !!! Dont run well unmapped at all, once mapped - brilliant!
    sweettt.. can't wait I won't fit them until the predator is on them anyway...just got to wait for the predator then

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    That pic is awesome man
    Cheers man!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    When you back home Sayer?

    Think I may pop up your way...
    soonish (i think next month), basically I'm not hanging around though man. Dropping the car off - going to hibernate in my garage until christmas I would have thought now... she's going SORN!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    don't do anything to the exterior bud, just concentrate on performance mods, i like the morrettes by the way
    cheers! I'm loving them now

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Damn. That's some pic Ads. The one of Rushy's on the rollers is even nicer...
    bar the last part of your post... cheers

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaybiss View Post
    agree with toads comment

    sayer, your bump strips look WOW.
    this sort of wow >
  711. #711
    I swaped my saxo mirrors for 106's and i soon changed back to the saxo ones.
    Think the saxo mirrors suit the curves of the mk2
  712. #712
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    I swaped my saxo mirrors for 106's and i soon changed back to the saxo ones.
    Think the saxo mirrors suit the curves of the mk2
    that's my thinking as well... the 106 is quite a blocky car in comparision to the mighty saxo... the 106 mirrors probably suit mk1 saxo's better I would have thought.
  713. #713
    It is a stunnig pic though Ads. Looks almost too good to be true. Were you playing about with your special cameras again?
  714. #714
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    It is a stunng pic though Ads. Looks almost too good to be true. Were you playing about with your special cameras again?
    yeah literally got back from FCS and thought... 'meh might as well clean the car' (didn't bother washing it before FCS - whoopsy).
    I had the camera in the back and thought I might as well take a quick snap and there's what you see in front of you
  715. #715
    That's an awesome pic dude. I agree with it looking awesome from the outside already. What interior has it got at the moment? Could always put a GiT in there.
  716. #716
    Noiiice picture man,
    looks epic,
    the street looks like one of those birds eye view town rugs!
  717. #717
    Only thing I can think of is, either colour code the book lock, or delock it.
    To clean the backend up now you've de-badged it.
  718. #718
    Exterior mods (unmod)? Get that shit off your headlights.
  719. #719
    argh shit... just going though the service history of the car, I don't think the bastard thing has had a cam belt change... its 7 years old on 85k

    FOR FUCKS SAKE
  720. #720
    talking about bumpstrips what have you done to them. theyre gleaming
  721. #721
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    argh shit... just going though the service history of the car, I don't think the bastard thing has had a cam belt change... its 7 years old on 85k

    FOR FUCKS SAKE
    Are you going to wait till cams go in or replace the belt asap?
  722. #722
    Something simple and effective then Ad's?

    Just get the belt done when the cams arrive, were you planning on anything else with the cams when they got fitted?
    Id probably try and avoid using it so much until its done just as a precaution.
  723. #723
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    argh shit... just going though the service history of the car, I don't think the bastard thing has had a cam belt change... its 7 years old on 85k

    FOR FUCKS SAKE
    Thats shit, get the cams in asap.... Although the predator plugs are not around
  724. #724
    It's so simple to pull the cambelt cover to one side, so you can peak at the belt. That'll soon tell you if it needs changing...
  725. #725
    Car looked very nice yesterday, didnt get to see it up close much though.

    Glad your happy with the cams though
  726. #726
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roj View Post
    That's an awesome pic dude. I agree with it looking awesome from the outside already. What interior has it got at the moment? Could always put a GiT in there.
    thanks man, it's a VTS interior... I'd love a GTi interior but I'd always be paranoid about increasing the wear on it, whereas the VTS interior seems to just be rugged as they come and can replace them easily

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Noiiice picture man,
    looks epic,
    the street looks like one of those birds eye view town rugs!
    i didn't understand a word of that man!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Only thing I can think of is, either colour code the book lock, or delock it.
    To clean the backend up now you've de-badged it.
    noted! that's a good point!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bytor View Post
    Exterior mods (unmod)? Get that shit off your headlights.
    no.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hodgins91 View Post
    talking about bumpstrips what have you done to them. theyre gleaming
    That was courteousy of Jaybiss and his back to black stuff... I believe it's called 'WOW'

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    Are you going to wait till cams go in or replace the belt asap?
    replace belt and lob cams in at the same time... I didn't want to have the cams fitted if the car was going to remain unmapped but... sod it!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Something simple and effective then Ad's?

    Just get the belt done when the cams arrive, were you planning on anything else with the cams when they got fitted?
    Id probably try and avoid using it so much until its done just as a precaution.
    With the cams I'd like to fit the predator 3-plug when it arrives - and then the AT throttle bodies towards the end of the year
    yeah, I'm sure I read a report by the Citroen dealership I sent the car to to have a mechanic go over it and check for probs and I'm sure he wrote that he believed the cam belt was replaced around 45k miles... but can't find the paper.

    I'm not chancing it anyway, I've been driving like a granny, I mean SERIOUS granny driving...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Thats shit, get the cams in asap.... Although the predator plugs are not around
    just have to wait for the pred

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    It's so simple to pull the cambelt cover to one side, so you can peak at the belt. That'll soon tell you if it needs changing...
    tried... it's a solid bit of plastic... no idea how you pull it one side

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    Car looked very nice yesterday, didnt get to see it up close much though.

    Glad your happy with the cams though
    cheers man, thanks so much for holding on to them for sooo long...


    here they are...

  727. #727
    sayer the cambelt cover has some 5mm allen bolts in the side
    undo them and pull it over to see

    i would say if your camming you might aswell do the belt
    but a good choice with the newmans (im assuming ph3)
  728. #728
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    sayer the cambelt cover has some 5mm allen bolts in the side
    undo them and pull it over to see

    i would say if your camming you might aswell do the belt
    but a good choice with the newmans (im assuming ph3)
    I didn't bring my toolbox

  729. #729
    Nice one Ads, where do you get the money from! Im struggling here!

    Love the trade mark

    ps Can I touch it at Trax if you're there?
  730. #730
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    I didn't bring my toolbox

    failiure
  731. #731
    Thats great ads...now where are the FCS track pics!?!?!?!?



    iJoke.

    Cams look awesome mate, deffo the road I'll be going down.

    Seriously though...track pics

    XxXxXxX
  732. #732
    Nice one Mighty One!
    When they going in?
  733. #733
    camz for da win
  734. #734
    Nice purchase ads,

    Im looking forward to seeing your comments when the cams are fitted, if you think there worth the money i may be buying some as well.
  735. #735
    Adsayer.

    How about you send me a copy of that spreadsheet
  736. #736
    Stop taking pictures of the cams! Fit them!
  737. #737
    really liking this mr sayer. most looking forward to u vs ferg at brands soon lol
  738. #738
    Sayer can haz cammed VTS.
  739. #739
    :o kewl
  740. #740
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris261287 View Post
    Nice one Ads, where do you get the money from! Im struggling here!

    Love the trade mark

    ps Can I touch it at Trax if you're there?
    you may touch it.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adamsax View Post
    Thats great ads...now where are the FCS track pics!?!?!?!?



    iJoke.

    Cams look awesome mate, deffo the road I'll be going down.

    Seriously though...track pics

    XxXxXxX
    track pics... give me an email address

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Nice one Mighty One!
    When they going in?
    not sure... get yours in first

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    camz for da win
    yo


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    Nice purchase ads,

    Im looking forward to seeing your comments when the cams are fitted, if you think there worth the money i may be buying some as well.
    why am I the guinea pig?

    loads of people have said they're rough as hell without a map soooo I'll probs wait till the predator arrives...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    Adsayer.

    How about you send me a copy of that spreadsheet
    it's not in a state to be released my dear... but yes I will once it's ready

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joehow12 View Post
    really liking this mr sayer. most looking forward to u vs ferg at brands soon lol
    he'll be easy pickings.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Elliott View Post
    Sayer can haz cammed VTS.
    well.... can haz them soon hopefully

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ge0_Ge View Post
    :o kewl




    right guys... checked the cambelt (well about 1/16 of it) and it looked fine.... no cracks nothing... so I'm guessing it's been changed at some point, what do we reckon?
  741. #741
    Should be fine...
  742. #742
    Sayer Id change it dude. Even if it looks fine, now its mentioned if your like me it will be a niggle in the back of your head.
  743. #743
    Not worth scrimping on something so cheap, yet so important!
  744. #744
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Should be fine...
    thought so, I'm still changing it

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    Sayer Id change it dude. Even if it looks fine, now its mentioned if your like me it will be a niggle in the back of your head.
    I know what you mean... since friday I haven't taken the car past 4k. haven't revved or even accelerated faster than a 1.1... sucks BIG TIME... it'll get changed up with Manic, just means that the condition is ok so I can get it too Boldon without pooping my pants too much

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LeeumH View Post
    Not worth scrimping on something so cheap, yet so important!
    true that mate
  745. #745
    Quote:
    why am I the guinea pig?

    loads of people have said they're rough as hell without a map soooo I'll probs wait till the predator arrives...


    Your the guinea pig because you no what your talking about so if you say there good they must be.
    1 user thanked this post:
  746. #746
    if we still had the rep system... you would have got some rep
    1 user thanked this post:
  747. #747
    Ads, if you're putting in new cams, then it's definitely worth changing. I think I've gone though 3 new belts already... But otherwise, if it's in fine shape, there's no point.
  748. #748
    3 belts.. crickey... your's is on about 14k miles or something daft as well
    With the old cars they were changed every 4 years or 50k miles... this one I foolishly just went on what I was told, it's not Marks (previous owner) fault tbh he believed it had been done by the previous owner at 45k miles... anyway, I'm not worrying too much, it's only got around 400 miles to do before it goes in so happy days
  749. #749
    Yeah, nothing to worry about. Remember, it's not the mileage which is important, it's the condition of the belt! If it's sound, it's sound!

    Nah, 68k now fella.

    I had a close call a little while back where one of the screws which holds the timing belt casing to the head came out, and caught in between the top of the casing and the belt! Came so close to tearing. So lucky I found it...
  750. #750
    the amount i check my car now i have had all this work done is mega... even after my drive to and from work i open the bonnet and instect everything its such a worry when you modify cars and then something as silly as not changing a cambelt costs you a new engine.... hows is it running now mate?
  751. #751
    xsi box 63k miles.

    spins by hand with no clattering

  752. #752
    I like the way this project is taking shape Mr S.

    Well thought out Mods, always win!
  753. #753
    Nice. Are you going for a Quaife LSD while it's out?
  754. #754
    nice BOX! lol

    taking shape niceley, wish i had the cash to splash
  755. #755
    nice box ads, must have taken some finding.
  756. #756
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    nice box ads, must have taken some finding.
    was for sale on here irrc.. he and toad fought it out. lol
  757. #757
    where you get the box?

    you want to sell me it? You going to be sticking an ATB in there?
    You planning on getting it on track this year Mr Sayer?
  758. #758
    Nice box mate,copying me again lol, your putting in an LSD I hope!?
  759. #759
    I think it wont be long before ayer is lording it with shouts of

    '' ATB Just kicked in yo ''

    Good buy sayer, our cars will be similar when both are fully built
  760. #760
    Nice colour box.
  761. #761
    Wow I hate you.
  762. #762
    what are the ratios like on the xsi box?
  763. #763
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashleyp View Post
    what are the ratios like on the xsi box?
    Same as most of the others. But has a 4.29 final drive.
  764. #764
    As Toad said,
    the ratios of a VTS, XSi, S1 box etc are all the same.
    It's the final drive that differs, giving 'better' acceleration but less top speed achieved in each gear.
  765. #765
    LSD Mr sayer! GET IT IN!
  766. #766
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    As Toad said,
    the ratios of a VTS, XSi, S1 box etc are all the same.
    It's the final drive that differs, giving 'better' acceleration but less top speed achieved in each gear.
    ahh i see, cheers man
  767. #767
    a special thanks to cunt couriers who delivered the box from shropshire to surrey....
  768. #768
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    I like the way this project is taking shape Mr S.

    Well thought out Mods, always win!
    cheers man... nearly done tbh only had the car 8 months lol.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Nice. Are you going for a Quaife LSD while it's out?
    sorry I feel terrible about this... im sorry

    dunno yet

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ge0_Ge View Post
    nice BOX! lol

    taking shape niceley, wish i had the cash to splash
    yeah it's weird I don't think I've spent as much as it probably looks really dude... I need to look but it's defo less than £1,200 I think on mods.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    nice box ads, must have taken some finding.
    thanks man, Adamhighfield put it up for friend so I contacted him and just by chance a certain person (ryan) was in the area and so picked the box up for me

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ge0_Ge View Post
    was for sale on here irrc.. he and toad fought it out. lol
    sorrrryyyyyy toad

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    where you get the box?

    you want to sell me it? You going to be sticking an ATB in there?
    You planning on getting it on track this year Mr Sayer?
    1) got it off adamhighfields friend
    2) no
    3) dunno
    4) unlikely... I'm taking it off the road in august as the insurance runs out, I'm moving into a house with street parking, so there is no way in hell I'm keeping the car there. so it's going SORN and it's going to live in the garage at sayer towers.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    Nice box mate,copying me again lol, your putting in an LSD I hope!?
    copying? Now I'm used to the 'copying' allegations about yates' car, which I can't be arsed to defend anymore but yes, it's true, I'm copying yates'

    man everyone is going mad over the LSD... we'll see.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    I think it wont be long before ayer is lording it with shouts of

    '' ATB Just kicked in yo ''

    Good buy sayer, our cars will be similar when both are fully built
    diff comment again... christ are they really that good. I drove yates with the diff and well... it was pretty good around corners actually.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Nice colour box.
    another cryptic post karl!?!?!? it's silver isn't it!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Wow I hate you.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashleyp View Post
    what are the ratios like on the xsi box?
    VTS 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5t... just the final drive is different... 4.29 for the XSI and 3.938 for the VTS... it works out as being 10% faster acceleration

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kevin_172 View Post
    LSD Mr sayer! GET IT IN!


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    a special thanks to cunt couriers who delivered the box from shropshire to surrey....
    ryan, seriously thank you so much for that... top top top man
  769. #769
    great buy ads...
    the diff makes one of the most pleasant differences ive done to my car.
  770. #770
    i didnt realise that there would be a 10% increase in acceleration (approx) from fitting this box. Will await your comments once its fitted.
  771. #771
    yar sod it... it'd be rude not to Quaife it really.


  772. #772
    Haha. Funny replies Ads.

    Don't be sorry, it's aboslutely fine.
  773. #773
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    yar sod it... it'd be rude not to Quaife it really.


    good man mr sayer!!! i soooo cant wait to drive mine! when its done will have to meet up and ill give you a go?
  774. #774
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    yar sod it... it'd be rude not to Quaife it really.


    Shall you be speaking to Mankee about a full rebuild? I am contemplating wether to get the VTS box I have fully rebuilt with an ATB from Mankee, might as well change the final drive to an XSI if I did decide to go down that route....

    P.S - Liking the updates Keep them coming!
  775. #775
    What about the EmpeeGees?!!
  776. #776
    Good stuff mate. Will be interested to see what you think of it on a road car.

    I bought a refurbed S1 box. DHL have gone and lost it
  777. #777
    All i can say is that the quaife is awesome mate, one of the best things you can do to a saxo/106 imo!
  778. #778
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    All i can say is that the quaife is awesome mate, one of the best things you can do to a saxo/106 imo!
    clio!
  779. #779
    YOur both wrong! Any car that doesnt come with one as standard? As it will do the same thing.
  780. #780
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Haha. Funny replies Ads.

    Don't be sorry, it's aboslutely fine.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kevin_172 View Post
    good man mr sayer!!! i soooo cant wait to drive mine! when its done will have to meet up and ill give you a go?
    mate... that'd be mint!!!!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    What about the EmpeeGees?!!
    don't worry I haven't forgotten about mpg

    I have a cunning plan... see below...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo View Post
    Good stuff mate. Will be interested to see what you think of it on a road car.
    I bought a refurbed S1 box. DHL have gone and lost it
    s1? cluckadoodle... bit short don't you think?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    All i can say is that the quaife is awesome mate, one of the best things you can do to a saxo/106 imo!
    I drove Yates' last year and as that was my first long drive outing in a VTS and that was awesome on the track... on the road... not so sure, you can tell that if you're giving it some it'll catch you out big time - but as you say, as upgrades go it's one of the best that can be done.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    Shall you be speaking to Mankee about a full rebuild? I am contemplating wether to get the VTS box I have fully rebuilt with an ATB from Mankee, might as well change the final drive to an XSI if I did decide to go down that route....

    P.S - Liking the updates Keep them coming!
    rebuild... well... the box is on 63k... so relatively low mileage, and doesn't feel clunky when turning by hand through the gears, with my lameo check it seems pretty good. But! I'm craving the change from the standard XSI 5th Gear, to a 5th Gear from a VTR.

    1st - 4th remain part of the sports cluster for fun times, 5th for cruising.... as I spend most of my time (95%) cruising about (see my mpg), 5th gets used a lot so I may as well heighten it.

    I know Mankee could do swap for the 5th's on later type boxes, but not so sure on earlier types.


    so going from a:
    3.938 FD and 0.85 5th (VTS)
    to a
    4.29 FD and a 0.85 5th yeilds (XSI) about a +325 rpm difference
    4.29 FD and a 0.767 5th yeilds about a -50 rpm difference

    so a total difference of 375rpm. doesn't sound a lot but as I spend most of my time in that gear it makes sense to use that as my mpg gear.

    thoughts?
  781. #781
    Great pics!
  782. #782
    Well calculated. A very good idea if it's possible...
  783. #783
    couldnt you just drive that little bit slower and keep 5th. what does it work out as 5mph-ish slower?
  784. #784
    Updates?
  785. #785
    nice car mate
  786. #786
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    Updates?
    It's in the garage at Sayer Towers... and I won't be driving it until January at the earliest.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by scottthurlow View Post
    nice car mate
    thanks!
  787. #787
    How come? You did say but I cant remember lol
  788. #788
    at uni, don't need a car and that's about it really!

    if you drive a VTS daily it loses it's fun appeal fast tbh.

    ads
  789. #789
    Disagree. Had mine 6 months now and still love driving it.

    /spam
  790. #790
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    at uni, don't need a car and that's about it really!

    if you drive a VTS daily it loses it's fun appeal fast tbh.

    ads
    Couldn't agree more.
    Shame you won't be joining us on track days Mr Sayer
  791. #791
    awesome car mate! really nice
  792. #792
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    at uni, don't need a car and that's about it really!

    if you drive a VTS daily it loses it's fun appeal fast tbh.

    ads
    I agree, love driving mine about once a year Lol
  793. #793
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    It's in the garage at Sayer Towers... and I won't be driving it until January at the earliest.
    you're chatting shit sayer... I'm picking it up tomorrow.

    3 months without a car and I've succumbed. I did actually look at such shit cars as a 205 Cabriolet, a Vauxhall Nova 1.2, a Nissan Micra 1.0, some gutless piece of japanese junk with 898cc engine... but decided to get the smegging saxo back.

    Wednesday it's going to ManicMotors for a fulla serviceo, cambelt change, powerflex ARB bushes, clutch change, oh and an XSI box going in... cams are staying at home and I'm actually tempted to sell them now.
    Naturally, I won't allow any old shite to pass through it's filters and pumps and therefore, the paxo is getting Silkolene PRO S for the engine and some
    Fuchs Titan 75W-80 gearbox oil... total cost for the two was £70 *gulp* but I know it'll be worth it.

    Actually really really looking forward to having the car back... yeehaa
  794. #794
    Get the cams fitted man, might as well!
  795. #795
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    Get the cams fitted man, might as well!
    negative homie... no idea how the predator thing is coming along and it's just too much of an arse in terms of idle, MOT regs and all that shizzle.

    I wish I'd bought some PH1's in all honesty... wonder if Newman will do an exchange???
  796. #796


    yummy yummy. can't wait to plonk my skabby ass into it's cheapo seats again.. yay
  797. #797
    glad your bad ad's
  798. #798
    TBF if you don't drive fast (like me) you wont need the extra power, a VTS is good enough for everyday use.

    Is there a reason why you're replacing the gearbox other than the different ratios?
  799. #799
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    TBF if you don't drive fast (like me) you wont need the extra power, a VTS is good enough for everyday use.

    Is there a reason why you're replacing the gearbox other than the different ratios?
    I agree totally man, it'll be a pain tit's for me, mpgs n power delivery n shiz. The box, always fancied an XSI box, shorter than the VTS/gti but not too short to be a git on the motorways - still need to change that 5th gear though... must chase Mankee on that.

    it's around 10% quicker acceleration from the calculations I made (ages ago, need to dig up the excel sheet in fact), doesn't sound a lot but equates to quite a 'kick'


    hopefullyyyy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashleyp View Post
    glad your bad ad's
    Cheers man!
  800. #800
    hai ladyboy
  801. #801
    haizers
  802. #802
    morning homo. what time are you off to manics? might pop over if i have some time going spare. gives me something to do!
  803. #803
    i didnt think you would be able to live without the S until January lol
  804. #804
    adzzzz nice to see your back son, im loving my vts atm, standard alloys back on and standard exhaust
  805. #805
    Oh harrow ...

    Good to see you back.
    Your Saxo is my inspiration in life.
  806. #806
    haizer
  807. #807
    That pictures is awesome. WB x
  808. #808
    I'm living in your hood now Ads, and got a VTS on the way! Fancy meeting up for a whore sometime?
  809. #809
    a vts alex? C2 yea?
  810. #810
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo View Post
    a vts alex? C2 yea?
    Nope another spaxo
  811. #811
    If you don't mind be asking, how much (roughly) was the de-aerial or did you not get a break down on the exterior work?

    Has it had a metal plate welded in and then smoothed out and sparayed or was it just fillered/fibreglassed?

    James
  812. #812
    I farking love my car chaps!


    I'm pissed will reply properly later. All I can say is xsi ftw and manicmotors are furking awesome.
  813. #813
    r. All
    Foible post!

    I can say is xsi ftw and manicmotors are furking awesome.
  814. #814
    lmao sayer you mad mother fooker

    manic motors are awesome though got too say
  815. #815
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    i didnt think you would be able to live without the S until January lol
    I didn't really mind too much being without thecar dude, it was just the odd weekend where I was stuck in Guildford and kept missing out on social things that started to cheese me off. The main reason was my girlfriend got a job in Margate was is a bastard to get to by train so I thought 'bugger it - get the car back'.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo View Post
    adzzzz nice to see your back son, im loving my vts atm, standard alloys back on and standard exhaust
    minterz, standard exhaust??? why why???!?! glad you're loving it man!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Oh harrow ...

    Good to see you back.
    Your Saxo is my inspiration in life.
    lies! seriously ferg you don't need to sell you just need an xsi box in there!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ge0_Ge View Post
    haizer
    haizer.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    That pictures is awesome. WB x
    cheers man... can't for my next phootshoot idea

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexR View Post
    I'm living in your hood now Ads, and got a VTS on the way! Fancy meeting up for a whore sometime?
    what? as in guildford? and you've got a VTS? awesome, yeah man defo up for a meet up!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jim-Bob View Post
    If you don't mind be asking, how much (roughly) was the de-aerial or did you not get a break down on the exterior work?

    Has it had a metal plate welded in and then smoothed out and sparayed or was it just fillered/fibreglassed?

    James
    Jim, I didn't get a break down on it dude, basically I paid £500 for the deaerial, delock, degrille, debadge and the morrettes respraying... so I guess you're looking at around £100-£200 I suppose!

    It has a metal plate bonded on the back and then filled dude!

    well... I took the car to manicmotors on wednesday and it's come back even better than before - the PRO S engine oil seems to be fantastic. Chris and his dad even through in a BMC panel filter for me for nowt! really I can't rate them highly enough.

    I love my car again
  816. #816
    Just need the diff now
  817. #817
    Pleased your still about sayer been asking people if you was ok!
  818. #818
    looking forward to seeing your comments about the new gearbox.
  819. #819
    new head unit!

    Alpine 9885r

  820. #820
    Love the two tone mate, im only from Redcar
  821. #821
    I have been looking into a new HU. How much was this one? Been looking at the XDA is it? the ones without the CD player as I have a CDA 8661R or something no idea really at the minute and its sweet as, but its 3 years old now. And having never put a CD in it it seems pointless to get one with a CD player.
  822. #822
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Just need the diff now
    I defo can't afford one sadly.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    Pleased your still about sayer been asking people if you was ok!
    yeah man, I'm all groovy. I quite enjoyed the break from forums tbh!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dodson View Post
    Love the two tone mate, im only from Redcar
    Cheers man, nice one

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    I have been looking into a new HU. How much was this one? Been looking at the XDA is it? the ones without the CD player as I have a CDA 8661R or something no idea really at the minute and its sweet as, but its 3 years old now. And having never put a CD in it it seems pointless to get one with a CD player.
    I paid £95 man inc. the Ipod Connector. Mine has a CD player too which I've yet to use actually. Really really good unit, the built in amps (if slightly underpowered) shit out some quality signal. Soooo happy with it


    Boredom strikes.... so I took a pic of it.

  823. #823
    Nice to see you're still alive Ads.

    Photo looks very Sayer esq!
  824. #824
    Gayyyy!

    I've not seen you on your gangster bike nor driving the S recently, where have you been hiding?
  825. #825
    Looks awesome
  826. #826
    Very cool pic Ads!
  827. #827
    Nice picture Ads.

    One of these went past me earlier, not sure if it was a VTS though.
  828. #828
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Nice to see you're still alive Ads.

    Photo looks very Sayer esq!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Looks awesome
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Very cool pic Ads!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Nice picture Ads.

    One of these went past me earlier, not sure if it was a VTS though.
    Thanks gang. naaaaa too rare, it'll be one of those common as muck VTR twotones.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexR View Post
    Gayyyy!

    I've not seen you on your gangster bike nor driving the S recently, where have you been hiding?
    Well I've buggered my bike and I don't drive the car except at weekends. whoop whoop.
  829. #829
    still alive and kicking hey sayer! i miss 16v
  830. #830
    When you selling this shed?
  831. #831
    Remember the £500 Sayer....
  832. #832
    Very sexy in that pic mate. Love it!
  833. #833
    that pic looks mint
  834. #834
    Epic picture, although it looks like you have those cheap fade tints from back in tut day.
  835. #835
    thats because the windows have been photoshopped
  836. #836
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dsh85 View Post
    still alive and kicking hey sayer! i miss 16v
    I thought you had some 106 thingy man?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    When you selling this shed?
    haahaaz. Haven't got any urgency to sell it at the moment man!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Remember the £500 Sayer....
    Don't want to burst your bubble or anything but there's a recession going on.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SaxoAL View Post
    Very sexy in that pic mate. Love it!
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mazvts View Post
    that pic looks mint
    Cheers guys!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hopcraft View Post
    Epic picture, although it looks like you have those cheap fade tints from back in tut day.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jungle_Jim View Post
    thats because the windows have been photoshopped



    Right... the morettes are pissing me off. Remove?
  837. #837
    morrettes are homotastic

    sell
  838. #838
    Yes get rid of them

    Mk1 Morrettes =

    Mk2 Morrettes =
  839. #839
    morettes on your car look awesome imo!!!!!!!!!!!
  840. #840
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Yes get rid of them

    Mk1 Morrettes =

    Mk2 Morrettes =
    Other way round, mk1 having the seperate indicator unit looks gash, having said that mk1s do anyway

    Sayer no decent pics of it from the other night?
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  841. #841
    Get red sayer
  842. #842
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MR_N View Post
    Get red sayer
    red ones would look stupid lol
  843. #843
    get rid of them....

    get some smoked standards on
  844. #844
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    red ones would look stupid lol
    OK ok iFail.
    Get rid of the morettes sayer. Never been a fan, but its your car.
  845. #845
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashleyp View Post
    morrettes are homotastic

    sell
    ok

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Yes get rid of them

    Mk1 Morrettes =

    Mk2 Morrettes =
    ok

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    morettes on your car look awesome imo!!!!!!!!!!!
    ok

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Other way round, mk1 having the seperate indicator unit looks gash, having said that mk1s do anyway

    Sayer no decent pics of it from the other night?
    ok
    no. but I did this to your very first one...



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MR_N View Post
    Get red sayer
    red? as in red morettes? How much smack have gobbled?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NICK2506 View Post
    get rid of them....

    get some smoked standards on
    Can't, Yates will bring out the 'you're a yates wannabeeeee' card again.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MR_N View Post
    OK ok iFail.
    Get rid of the morettes sayer. Never been a fan, but its your car.
    they were the previous owners addition to the car which I was never a fan of either tbh.


    cheers gang.
  846. #846
    Keep the morettes. The design you got looks very good imo, the older version with no projectors look a bit shit.
  847. #847
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Can't, Yates will bring out the 'you're a yates wannabeeeee' card again.
    standard heailghts then or angels? otherwise you gotta keep the morrettes. or candles?
  848. #848
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mieran View Post
    Keep the morettes. The design you got looks very good imo, the older version with no projectors look a bit shit.
    argh
    h7's ftw.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NICK2506 View Post
    standard heailghts then or angels? otherwise you gotta keep the morrettes. or candles?
    umm liking the candle idea, thinking outside of the box. ah fuck it, I've copied yates up till now, might as well carry on.
  849. #849
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    umm liking the candle idea, thinking outside of the box. ah fuck it, I've copied yates up till now, might as well carry on.
    or just wire up some household bulbs.

    although they would have to be energy saving ones gheyy
  850. #850
    keep the morettes
  851. #851
    as said above Mr Sayer, the old H4 style were horrible but the h7 version look really smart.
  852. #852
    Keep the morettes, makes it stand out from all the other "track slag wantabes" on saxp!
  853. #853
    Be different and go for the smoked theme
  854. #854
    keep them man i really liked the car at fcs.
  855. #855
    h7 are wank the light then generate is shocking

    I could produce more standing in the wind with a tea light!
  856. #856
    Sell morrettes.
    Fit standard lights.
    Job done.
  857. #857
    If you are going to take them off get some standards and smoke them in the same colour as bottom half of car. Could look either good or shit.
  858. #858
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    h7 are wank the light then generate is shocking

    I could produce more standing in the wind with a tea light!
    Or letting the sun reflect off your dome head

    Ads, just copy yates. smoked lights, diff, 708s then bring on the trumpets
  859. #859
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Sell morrettes.
    Fit standard lights.
    Job done.
    Agreed.
  860. #860
    Morettes have grown on me, but I'd probably swap back.

    Recession?! Is that your excuse? lol.
  861. #861
    Will look shaa-weeet with either lights imo.

    How are you getting on with the gearbox shizz?
  862. #862
    if your getting rid of them i think i should get 1st refusel on the dude
  863. #863
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stinkycheese View Post
    Will look shaa-weeet with either lights imo.

    How are you getting on with the gearbox shizz?
    fail. I need a 2002+ VTS gearbox for the gear cluster. I then need a VTR gear box so I can nab the 5th gear from it. I then need to rip apart my XSI box, take the final drive out, bung it in the new VTS box, rip the VTR box and nab the 5th out and bung it in the VTS. I'll do it but finding a late VTS box is a nightmare!!!!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    if your getting rid of them i think i should get 1st refusel on the dude
    errrrr G, you've got another saxo!?
  864. #864
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    fail. I need a 2002+ VTS gearbox for the gear cluster. I then need a VTR gear box so I can nab the 5th gear from it. I then need to rip apart my XSI box, take the final drive out, bung it in the new VTS box, rip the VTR box and nab the 5th out and bung it in the VTS. I'll do it but finding a late VTS box is a nightmare!!!!
    Sounds a, er doddle?

    Keep the Morettes btw
  865. #865
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post

    errrrr G, you've got another saxo!?
    will do in next few weeks

    your front lights would fit in with my plans perfect aswell
  866. #866
    why do people keeping coming back to the saxo... I'm worried for when I finally move on.
  867. #867
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    why do people keeping coming back to the saxo... I'm worried for when I finally move on.
    because there cheap and fun dude

    theres no other car out there for less than 1k thats as fun
  868. #868
    o hai.


    Right bought the most expensive induction kit you can get (obviously didn't pay full price for it though!). Cheers to Chief192830192 (James)

    ITG Maxogen...


    needs a clean and reoiling before it goes in the car but thought I'd update the thread anyway...

    ads
  869. #869
    How much are they new? Big BMC
  870. #870
    Thats an 'uge Dundar
  871. #871
    possibly one of best looking 2 tone ive seen, de-wiper it!
  872. #872
    Sayer you legend! long time no see, hows things going?
  873. #873
    Do these get awesome results then Mr Sayer?????? Do you have pictures of one fitted????
  874. #874
    never seen/heard of them before!

    are you going to be before and after RR or not bother
  875. #875
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by db_sax View Post
    How much are they new? Big BMC
    I ttthhhiiink £300 (?) when I last checked.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Thats an 'uge Dundar


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jmwilliams View Post
    possibly one of best looking 2 tone ive seen, de-wiper it!
    thanks! I won't be dewipering it though dude... I'd go mad if I can't see out the back.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willsy View Post
    Sayer you legend! long time no see, hows things going?
    Sup man! yeah I know, been mega busy and stuff! you in with da police now?!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    Do these get awesome results then Mr Sayer?????? Do you have pictures of one fitted????
    No idea man. Looks like it should... but the proof will be in the pudding... see below...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Viper View Post
    never seen/heard of them before!

    are you going to be before and after RR or not bother
    I've got a 'before' from last year, not technically good for a true comparison because of the time difference, but also because it'll be decatted come the next run. But I do intend to see how it performs on the rolling road.

    Laterz
  876. #876
    Looks good matey
  877. #877
    Awesome bit of kit, defo a good purrrr chase.
  878. #878
    Ads, how you doing bud?

    Next time you go to a RR, speak to the operator and say that you want to do some back to back tests. They might want a tenner for the extra time. Worth trying for the heck of it, and it might bring up some interesting finds. I would try it with the new filter, try it with a Green filter on the end of the throttle body, and then with nothing on.
  879. #879
    Car is awesome mate love it when i saw it. Hope you enjoy the boring toneless sound of the standard exhuast lol
  880. #880
    Your car is awesome.

    That filter housing looks massive!!
  881. #881
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Right bought the most expensive induction kit you can get
    Procomp is £449 on the streamline carbon website

    Still, they are very good on Clios from what i have read, but i have never seen one fitted on a Saxo, should be good
  882. #882
    shit forgot about the procomp!
  883. #883
    Oh yeah, recent pic of car.

  884. #884
    Really love the look and stance of your car.

    Unsure on the headlights mind.
  885. #885
    Nice purrrchase mate, i know maxogens are awesome on honda's so im sure this will be no different
  886. #886
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    thanks! I won't be dewipering it though dude... I'd go mad if I can't see out the back.
    same boat as me. wayne recommended this stuff to me. yes its expensive but lasts forever. i wont argue with wayne but i havnt used it yet, will let you know what its like when i get some

    http://www.monzacarcare.com/products...0search%20term
  887. #887
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Reechard View Post
    Really love the look and stance of your car.

    Unsure on the headlights mind.
    Same here! I think I'll go back to standard really... the car needs a change anyway!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jimbo06 View Post
    Nice purrrchase mate, i know maxogens are awesome on honda's so im sure this will be no different
    we'll see!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chr15 View Post
    same boat as me. wayne recommended this stuff to me. yes its expensive but lasts forever. i wont argue with wayne but i havnt used it yet, will let you know what its like when i get some

    http://www.monzacarcare.com/products...0search%20term
    I have no idea what you're on about.


    ANYWAY...

    Filter fitted...



    now the bastard thing did come with an inlet throat but I'm thinking it was for another model car or something. So, I'm going to contact ITG tomorrow and see about a model specific replacement... because, at the moment... It looks daft sucking in all that shitty hot air.

    Sounds alright though... just need to remove the MEOW now and we'll have some proper noise... wooo
  888. #888
    ooh my bad. if you use the window sealant in that link, you could de-wiper and not worry about dirt and crap on the rear window. thats if you want to.

    will be very interesting to see what gains the new filter give, not seen this one before.
  889. #889
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chr15 View Post
    ooh my bad. if you use the window sealant in that link, you could de-wiper and not worry about dirt and crap on the rear window. thats if you want to.

    will be very interesting to see what gains the new filter give, not seen this one before.
    ah! I'm with you now dude!

    That's great cheers!

    Well I've reset the ECU just to speed up the process of getting the fuel trims set quicker... so it'll be a while before we find out...!
  890. #890
    looks good ads, whats the quality like?
  891. #891
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    ah! I'm with you now dude!

    That's great cheers!

    Well I've reset the ECU just to speed up the process of getting the fuel trims set quicker... so it'll be a while before we find out...!
    no probs. its all in theory though, i still need to try it so dont take my word for it . ill get some and stick on before butchering the boot. is it even possible to 're-wiper'?
  892. #892
    ad is there a large step where you have two silicone hoses clamped over each other?
  893. #893
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygti View Post
    looks good ads, whats the quality like?
    But the actual enclosure is stiff but bloody light. If you have a wireless mouse with batteries in it, the enclosure weighs less that... it's madness dude.

    The throttle response is improved slightly - but that's all I've had a chance to witness yet.

    Still not happy about the opening being in the vicinity of the engine bay so I'll have to sort something out sharpish.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chr15 View Post
    no probs. its all in theory though, i still need to try it so dont take my word for it . ill get some and stick on before butchering the boot. is it even possible to 're-wiper'?
    Yep totally possible to re-wiper dude! Let me know how you get on if you try the stuff
  894. #894
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    ad is there a large step where you have two silicone hoses clamped over each other?
    nope! the geniune ITG ones have a radius inside so there is no abrupt step changes - First thing I checked when I picked it up lol
  895. #895
    good stuff, I need to find the posts where you said you would never get a carbon induction kit
  896. #896
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    good stuff, I need to find the posts where you said you would never get a carbon induction kit
  897. #897
    looks good mate, is there not ment to be a carbon fibre shell that sits behind the grill (like the raceland induction kits but without the filter inside it) and connects to the main ITG filter section so cold are is forced into it rather than warm engine bay air

    on this 106gti pic it looks like it is connected to something
  898. #898
    Yar. it's actually a rubber moulding and that's what I'm getting at... The one I have is DEFO not for the Saxo which is why I'm going to speak to ITG and see if they have the correct bit
  899. #899
    drove it for an hour... sounds ace.
  900. #900
    looks good mate love the two tone saxos.
  901. #901
    Nice update Ads, i don't like the way these look personally but i guess its all about performance
  902. #902
    Been waiting ages to see someone with one of these.

    We need Vids!
  903. #903
    They see me rollin' ...
  904. #904
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ashley1 View Post
    looks good mate love the two tone saxos.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jamie View Post
    Nice update Ads, i don't like the way these look personally but i guess its all about performance
    Cheers lads. we'll see about the performance jamie... But so far since the ecu reset it's starting to improve a bit - I think I've over oiled it a touch as well so I might need to lob it off and attack it again with some better cleaning. At the same time it's still sucking in mucky air from the engine bay so there is some margin for improvements further still.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by leeroybrown View Post
    Been waiting ages to see someone with one of these.

    We need Vids!
    There's nothing overtly special about it so far to be honest dude... the noise is fantastic though. But I'll keep you updated

    Ads

    Anyway, fucking thing is going in to a Citroen garage (blank cheque at standby) for flickery battery light to be investigated. I'll go ballistic if the bloody alternator has gone again...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    They see me rollin' ...
    ... u hatin'?
  905. #905
    Btw SirSayer, dibs on gearbox if/when you sort it/sell it.
  906. #906
    Looked better when fitted to your crotch dude if Im honest! But as others have said as long as it performs well..

    Is that a good place to have the breather filter pointing BTW dude? Catch tank to keep it nice and neat perhaps?

    Otherwise looks as great as ever.
  907. #907
    flickering battery light sounds like the lead from alternator to starter motor has corroded at one of the terminals.

    Either put a new terminal on it, or if the corrosion has really attacked the wire, I'd pull the loom out, pull the bad wire out and replace it wit ha new one.

    Don't let Citroen try and sell you a new loom !
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  908. #908
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stinkycheese View Post
    Btw SirSayer, dibs on gearbox if/when you sort it/sell it.
    Xsi or VTS box?
    Oh and get the Stimulus package so we can hit it up on CoD and pwn noobs.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Looked better when fitted to your crotch dude if Im honest! But as others have said as long as it performs well..

    Is that a good place to have the breather filter pointing BTW dude? Catch tank to keep it nice and neat perhaps?

    Otherwise looks as great as ever.
    haha... Cheers man! Erm, not honestly sure about the breather filter... I just bunged it on and hoping for the best. I'm not even sure how much muck comes out of the pipe tbh!


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    flickering battery light sounds like the lead from alternator to starter motor has corroded at one of the terminals.

    Either put a new terminal on it, or if the corrosion has really attacked the wire, I'd pull the loom out, pull the bad wire out and replace it wit ha new one.

    Don't let Citroen try and sell you a new loom !
    Noted! It's with them at the moment, so I'll see what they come back with... I've no intention of getting them to do any work on it... I just cannot be faffed with car electrics in the slightest So hopefully they're find the prob and then I can bosh on a new alternator/loom whatever

    Thanks man! Oh we need to sort out this 5th Gear milarky...
  909. #909
    Do ya really like it? Izzit, izzit wikkid?

    Looks good Fernando
  910. #910
    My old breather used to seap oil from time to time. Just a heads up.
  911. #911
    Looking good as usual
  912. #912
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    flickering battery light sounds like the lead from alternator to starter motor has corroded at one of the terminals.

    Either put a new terminal on it, or if the corrosion has really attacked the wire, I'd pull the loom out, pull the bad wire out and replace it wit ha new one.

    Don't let Citroen try and sell you a new loom !
    Cheers Raunchz I needed to know that too!

    Sorry for the hijack ad

    James
  913. #913
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Xsi or VTS box?
    Oh and get the Stimulus package so we can hit it up on CoD and pwn noobs.
    The mish mash of them all, the xsi with vtr 5th in. 'Tis a great idea.
    Im calling dibs on something that doesnt even exist yet

    Im on it.
  914. #914
    Right then... lovely weather so cleaned the car today... so pic...



    Took the intake plenum out and gave that a clean and gave the throttle body a good'n too.

    decatted it earlier in the week - popopopopopopopperdypop

    Earlier in the week I spoke to ITG because I really wasn't happy about having the maxogen gobbling air from the engine bay. Turns out I've got a kit from a ZR160, which has the same carbon intake at the VTS, but different inlet throat and silicone hose. ITG were excellent about it about it. SO... new throat on the way and new single piece hose is a comeeeinngggg. That'll make the intake about as perfect as you can for a single body. whhhoooppaaa

    I've bought some more Michelin Pilots for the rear, these have lasted 23k on this car, 40k on the 1.5D and about 15k from the original VTS they came from... fucking amazing. Getting those done Monday.

    erm that's about it tbh

    ads
  915. #915
    that pic is awesome Ads!
  916. #916
    Brilliant pic mate! Perfect quality
  917. #917
    Show off!

    Ads, did you Morettes fit straight on with no problems? My o/s one 'fits' but isnt flush, looks like it might need a spacer underneath it to bring it in line with the wing.
  918. #918
    Those pilots are a very long lasting tyre. Did the sidewall/inbetween the tread block start cracking? Purely with the age of the tyre.
  919. #919
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post

    I've bought some more Michelin Pilots for the rear, these have lasted 23k on this car, 40k on the 1.5D and about 15k from the original VTS they came from... fucking amazing. Getting those done Monday.

    erm that's about it tbh

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    Do this give good grip as well as last forever? I think I need to invest in some for the VTS once the current ones are knackered

    What are they like it the wet? Do they grip still or do you end up aquaplaning everywhere?

    James
  920. #920
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by webby View Post
    Those pilots are a very long lasting tyre. Did the sidewall/inbetween the tread block start cracking? Purely with the age of the tyre.
    ive always brought michelin pilots, and they always crack with age lol.
  921. #921
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    that pic is awesome Ads!
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SaxoAL View Post
    Brilliant pic mate! Perfect quality
    Thanks guys!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chr15 View Post
    Show off!

    Ads, did you Morettes fit straight on with no problems? My o/s one 'fits' but isnt flush, looks like it might need a spacer underneath it to bring it in line with the wing.
    chris man, they came with the car... but the fit is pretty good I've found. I've got to say the wiring is appalling really so I think what with an alternator wiring fault that I've got that it's a good excuse to remove the loom and give it a good overhaul... do you have a pic of how 'unflush' it sits?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by webby View Post
    Those pilots are a very long lasting tyre. Did the sidewall/inbetween the tread block start cracking? Purely with the age of the tyre.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fastroadkid69 View Post
    ive always brought michelin pilots, and they always crack with age lol.
    They're amazing tyres guys. They're on about 2mm of thread now, I had a check yesterday and there are slight cracks starting to appear. so it's probably a good time to shift them... they are, after all, 7 years old!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jim-Bob View Post
    Do this give good grip as well as last forever? I think I need to invest in some for the VTS once the current ones are knackered

    What are they like it the wet? Do they grip still or do you end up aquaplaning everywhere?

    James
    James I've never had a problem with grip, they're predominantly a sports tyre but check out here the spacing between blocks... again I've had no problem with them in the wet...

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...85#post3371185

    They're about £100 a corner fitted.

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  922. #922
    Cheers Ad!

    Will get those next I need a tyre which will grip nicely when I want a blast down the B roads, but need something hard enough to not need replacing everything few months as I have an 80 mile (20,000 miles a year) daily drive

    Pilots look like the way forward for me!

    James
  923. #923
    Excuse the dirt and paint bodge job, I'll get it sorted ASAP

    Oh I thought you got them after buying the car. Agreed, wiring is shocking, a custom job is needed methinks.

    N/S sits perfect, I think the O/S needs to be unscrewed, moved to where I want it and drill in some new holes. Anyway, a couple of quick pics I just nipped out to get:

    El perfecto


    El not so perfecto




    Bad isn't it ?
  924. #924
    looks ok dosent looks that bad!!
  925. #925
    More new shoes...


    Incidently I have the old Michelins (2mm tread) which are ideal for track use for sale.

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  926. #926
    Thats a cracking pic ads.

    think it is fair to say that Two Tone's are the best colours.

    Your getting good life out your Pilot's ... think my rubber might need to be changed soon
  927. #927
    Can't go wrong the Michelins mate.

    I'm running two of them on my new car, will upgrade to the others too eventually.
  928. #928
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevie_m View Post
    Thats a cracking pic ads.

    think it is fair to say that Two Tone's are the best colours.

    Your getting good life out your Pilot's ... think my rubber might need to be changed soon
    The tyres do indeed seem to last forever which is niceeeee!

    I do like the randomness of the colour scheme, you don't see many cars come out of a factory which such a combination of colours. Love it!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    I'm running two of them on my new car, will upgrade to the others too eventually.
    What are the others? and why are they different?

    OKKZZZ...

    The car has recently breezed through the 100,000 mile barrier so I can now look forward to the saxo randomly disintegrating at some point in the near future...

    Just to keep you updated with what has happened recently.

    I had a oil leak, suspected it was leaking from the sump.... so nice simple job to sort out, so you'd think...

    For some spackass reason which is beyond me, I 'discovered' the oil sump plug was very tight so decided to plop a breaker bar on to it... only to realise after the plug was just spinning around that I'd overtightened it to the point where I'd stripped the threads

    Anyway after fucking the sump up, I just bought a new one (£100.50 ) and save hassle of buying a duff 2nd hander. After that was fitted all seems well yay.

    Now, I bought the ITG Maxogen kit a couple of months back which I was pretty happy about, except that it was gobbling air from the engine bay...



    After a discussion with Andy Jackson at ITG (hats off to the guy for the help by the way), we determined I had the maxogen kit from a scummy MG/Rover ZR160. So after a weee wait, these turned up today...



    So now I should have a proper enclosed induction. And not a moment too soon as the car really bogs down in slow traffic at the moment what with the sunny spell we've got...

    The Sunday just gone... I met this funny looking fellow...



    and snatched from his possession this...


    A Kenwood PS500F
    and after a quick clean...


    To be honest I'm a total I.C.E noob so looking forward to blowing fuses, amps and cars up no doubt when I get round to fitting it.

    And that's it!

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  929. #929
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chr15 View Post
    Excuse the dirt and paint bodge job, I'll get it sorted ASAP

    Oh I thought you got them after buying the car. Agreed, wiring is shocking, a custom job is needed methinks.

    N/S sits perfect, I think the O/S needs to be unscrewed, moved to where I want it and drill in some new holes. Anyway, a couple of quick pics I just nipped out to get:

    El perfecto


    El not so perfecto




    Bad isn't it ?
    That sucks, I hate alignment. I had a similar problem on the same side. THe other side sits fine/recessed into the wing, passengers side protrudes .

    I 'fixed (bodged) it with a cable tie pulling the brow under the headlight tight to the wing, doesn't move the actual headlight, but made it look better.

    Enjoy spam unrelated to your progress Sayer.
  930. #930
    spam away my little spammer....
  931. #931
    go on sayer my son! you must have got to the point where your wonderign how many miles you can get on it!

    low miles is overated imo
  932. #932
    This is slightly off topic, but how do you get 40-odd mpg from a 100k VTS!? On what sort of roads do you drive on, and when do you roughly change gear?

    Ps-I have read the thread you made on improving MPG as well.
  933. #933
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dsh85 View Post
    go on sayer my son! you must have got to the point where your wonderign how many miles you can get on it!

    low miles is overated imo
    low miles is for arsemunchers, cars are for driving innit! well after the oil leak dude I was thinking 'oh heck what if its the headgasket?', having never so much as remove the cam covers from an engine I was papping it a bit at the thought of having to do it. But got lucky with the sump. I had a good look at the crank and rods and oil pump when the sump was off and they looked absolutely spanking.

    However it's got me thinking about buying a random 1.6 16v engine and just leaving it at sayer towers for me to strip completely back and rebuild with a random spec which I can slowly build up over a year or so. anyway I'm not getting rid of the car anytime soon so in the meantime lets hope for another 100,000 miles

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Meto View Post
    This is slightly off topic, but how do you get 40-odd mpg from a 100k VTS!? On what sort of roads do you drive on, and when do you roughly change gear?

    Ps-I have read the thread you made on improving MPG as well.
    Hey man, best oil I can get basically, and change it every 8k or so. I actually left the last lot in for 12k and by the time I drained it the oil has lost any sign of it's golden colour and was completely manky black. The change in mpg just from the oil change was impressive enough.

    All the mods I did I chose careful around the potential affects of the mpg... so like with modding for power, you're trying to improve the efficiency of the engine, extract more power from the basic system. Well the same applies to mpg... its just applying them is different..

    The VTS is actually at about 40.1 mpg at the moment (that's an average over the 26k miles I've owned the vehicle so includes ALL my driving, good and bad). It was around 44 mpg but I stuffed an XSi gearbox in the car which has killed the mpg by 10% which is annoying to say the least. But it is very easy to get good mpg from it, simple tips really and just echo'ing what is in the MPG Guide...
    At start up, get moving but be extreeeemely gentle with the acceleration until the engine is warmed up, gear up early say 2.5k rpm. Don't rag it and don't drive like a stereotypical saxo driver.
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  934. #934
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post

    Hey man, best oil I can get basically, and change it every 8k or so. I actually left the last lot in for 12k and by the time I drained it the oil has lost any sign of it's golden colour and was completely manky black. The change in mpg just from the oil change was impressive enough.

    All the mods I did I chose careful around the potential affects of the mpg... so like with modding for power, you're trying to improve the efficiency of the engine, extract more power from the basic system. Well the same applies to mpg... its just applying them is different..

    The VTS is actually at about 40.1 mpg at the moment (that's an average over the 26k miles I've owned the vehicle so includes ALL my driving, good and bad). It was around 44 mpg but I stuffed an XSi gearbox in the car which has killed the mpg by 10% which is annoying to say the least. But it is very easy to get good mpg from it, simple tips really and just echo'ing what is in the MPG Guide...
    At start up, get moving but be extreeeemely gentle with the acceleration until the engine is warmed up, gear up early say 2.5k rpm. Don't rag it and don't drive like a stereotypical saxo driver.
    Ahh, so I take it you use thinner oil to get better MPG. I always change up by 2500rpm at all times, and i suppose I'm guilty of changing up slightly too early, which isn't ideal.

    Anyway, I'll stop spamming now, and thanks for your help!
  935. #935
    5W-40 Silkolene Pro S... So slightly thinner at cold dude

  936. #936
    i only at the weekend got a good run with my xsi box, its a tad annoyin as its over 4k at 70 so you can just imagine the fuel being cained!
    i dunno if its just me but i kept feelin the need to change gear all the time then realising i was in 5th
    you get used to it i guess though!
  937. #937
    Good progress

    Give me a shout if you get stuck with amp
  938. #938
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dsh85 View Post
    i only at the weekend got a good run with my xsi box, its a tad annoyin as its over 4k at 70 so you can just imagine the fuel being cained!
    i dunno if its just me but i kept feelin the need to change gear all the time then realising i was in 5th
    you get used to it i guess though!
    I with you brother. Hang on, mine is a tad 4k under at 70 mph... sure you haven't got an s1 rallye box? you know you can change the 5th gear for a taller one though mate? You need a base model 106 box from s1 era... 0.767 is the ratio - nothing else will do. That'll bring the 5th gear ratio back to that of a VTS box saving you about 10% fuel in the process, I'm still on the hunt for one... but obtaining such a box is unlikely on saxp and 106moaners is memberfuckingship-only now. bastards.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_R32 View Post
    Good progress

    Give me a shout if you get stuck with amp
    Cheers man! I will as I haven't yet sorted out fitting the damn thing. It's focking huge! If I'm honest I'm going to be pretty picky about it, I need some sort of method of easily removing it and yet retain audio to the speakers when the amp is not in use... tricky, perhaps impossible?!

    anyways....
    Wooo initial fitment... needs neatening up a bit but otherwise the ITG is sorted! Going to rolling road it in the next couple of months and see whether this kit is any good or not!

  939. #939
    nah its defo xsi i had the code checked, maybe it was tad under or thereabouts
    mind you my speedo is over reading so my rev counter could possibly be too although rev is digital and speedo is cable

    i think the worse part about it is that its bang on the start of the power band and just urging you to make that overtake at speed
  940. #940
    were you reading from GPS then...?? If so, I think 70 (true) will be over 4k rpm.

    Got a new(ish) battery tray, cheers Mankee! The old one must have been exposed to battery acid before I bought the car (is was rusty as hell back then but wasn't a priority for me to fix).


    New one...


    yay.
  941. #941
    ads yes it would be possible you would have to wire in 4 switches into the oe speaker wires at the back of the hu so you can effectively cut it out of the circuit so it didnt mess with the impedances at the amp.

    wire a switch into the remote wire and remove the fuse from the live. then you can remove it easy and still have some sound. im sure steve will help if he is busy im usually knocking about.
  942. #942
    Epic car man, almost as epic as your post count! Two-tones are by far the best!
    I was just wondering if your two-tone is a factory standard S? I thought they only made VTR's two-tone as standard.

    Forgive me for noobish question your lordship.
  943. #943
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by webby View Post
    ads yes it would be possible you would have to wire in 4 switches into the oe speaker wires at the back of the hu so you can effectively cut it out of the circuit so it didnt mess with the impedances at the amp.

    wire a switch into the remote wire and remove the fuse from the live. then you can remove it easy and still have some sound. im sure steve will help if he is busy im usually knocking about.
    Sounds tricky mate! I still haven't got round to plumbing in the amp... and I'm still a bit unsure if I will. Which is a shame as it's a quality amp.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dav0506 View Post
    Epic car man, almost as epic as your post count! Two-tones are by far the best!
    I was just wondering if your two-tone is a factory standard S? I thought they only made VTR's two-tone as standard.

    Forgive me for noobish question your lordship.
    forgiven

    Two tones rock! Yep the two tone S's were factory standard too. You don't see many on the roads, I've certainly not seen one (except for meets), although I've seen two Two tone R's now - one just last week. Driver gave me a knowing smile which was cool.


    RIGHT.

    The car is in pieces at the moment at sayer towers, I've decided to wrap the manifold since I'm now on my 5th, yes5th alternator. I figure the manifold is cooking the alternator, so I'm hoping the wrap will be sufficient at preventing another charred alt - has anyone with a raceland manifold had similar problems?

    I've pulled off the injectors since they are 8 years old and have 104 k miles on them, and sent them off to be serviced and ultrasoniced by Injectortune. Really looking forward to the report on these once they come back.

    I've cleaned out the M8 manifold stud holes with a tap as they looked a bit knackered.

    The Sunroof was jammed but I've fixed that.

    The oil leak I had around the sump which I thought I'd fixed has only been reduced (to 1 litre of oil over 5 k miles compared to 1 litre per 1 k miles before). So it seems I hadn't quite corrected it, which means I'll probably remove and then reseal the sump again tomorrow... ergh. But whilst the intake and fuel rail is off I'm going to check behind the engine in a bit more detail to confirm nothing is dribbling from the Headgasket.

    I bought some replacement wing mirrors yonks ago as mine were scuffed so I'll probably put them on.

    And tomorrow I may take some new headlight trims off to KM Design to be sprayed up, as I fancy plopping on the standard headlights.

    Then I'm taking the car off the road for a year because I don't need it, but don't want to sell it. lolz

    And I think that's it. I'll stick photos up once I'm done
  944. #944
    Ok some pics from today and yesterday...

    Retapping my manifold holes...




    The dirty injectors that have been sent to Injectortune.


    Today I decided to go huntin' fo' oil! (leaks). Removed the intake runners, noticed they were full of dirt so gave them a right blasting. No leaks from the rear of the engine - I was expecting the head gasket. So that leaves just the cambelt-side - which I really really don't want to do at this point in time. Just to be sure I removed the sump again and gave it a resealing...
    sump off


    scraping off the old gasket... ergh.


    Whilst the airfilter was lying around I decided to lob off the carbon fibre to see how dirty it was inside and well... it needed a clean.


    So I've cleaned it

    And I've decided that this injector loom...


    is past it's best so I've ordered a new one - should be here Thursday.


    Tomorrows tasks are:
    Remove interior and shampoo it
    Relocate the internal aerial to the rear window - that's going to be the mother of all ball aches
    Replace handbrake switch as my current one is toasted
    Refit injectors (if they're back), pop manifold and alternator back on.
  945. #945
    shouldnt be a bitch to re-route aerial, take it you mean one that went to original aerial point?

    ive got another altenator if you fancy it?!
  946. #946
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    shouldnt be a bitch to re-route aerial, take it you mean one that went to original aerial point?

    ive got another altenator if you fancy it?!
    Yeah I bought this after I had the car deaerialed.
    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...Id_165626#dtab

    And just wedged it in the sun roof panel, but the reception is next to useless so I'm going to pop it on the top of the rear window next to the brake light. Wire it through the brake light cable, through to the tailgate-chassis rubber and then somehow get it from the roof and route it under the carpet (really don't want to piss about with the headlining and route it up and over)

    What alternator is it? And how much do you want for it?
  947. #947
    Booked your ticket for Trax yet mate?
  948. #948
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    That's the plan mate... it's back in my hometown awaiting an inspection (and repairs if any )



    another vote for the standards...



    I wasn't expecting much of a response to be honest man!

    anyway pics as requested (see below)



    That's the next thing to worry about... I have 8 VTS rims now, so I'm going to select the best four, shot and powder coated and boshed on to the car. Not sure on colour yet though




    Thanks man Yates mentioned the same thing tonight actually... I tried a photoshop and it looked a bit . So I'm honestly not sure but the morettes are growing on me daily



    and another vote for the morettes lol



    Cheers gang.

    Anyway just got it back to my little inbred hometown to discover yorkshire is covered in some cold, white shit. Popped to the local skally hang on to take some pics under the street lighting and then 2 mins later whoever controls the lights decided to kill them. BBBBAAAASTARD.



    Just put my trusty MD headunit back in


    And forced mothersayer to floor the loud pedal on the car... she screamed haha



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    prob see you taking the pics so thought they cut the light for a laugh
  949. #949
    just altenator on this engine, dont know what kind of condition its in though, can get it tested though

    can you not run that wire under the carpet, under rear seat, up behind rear door card up to c pillar, saves doing headlining...
  950. #950
    I used that same aerial on my old car, its was shite

    Don't think it will make any diffence where you put it, still won't work
  951. #951
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willsy View Post
    Booked your ticket for Trax yet mate?
    Not yet, although I think I will! Might as well!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxomad197 View Post
    prob see you taking the pics so thought they cut the light for a laugh
    lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    just altenator on this engine, dont know what kind of condition its in though, can get it tested though

    can you not run that wire under the carpet, under rear seat, up behind rear door card up to c pillar, saves doing headlining...
    Yep, I'm doing that currently. Still a faff mind.

    If the alt. works I'm interested my sweet.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    I used that same aerial on my old car, its was shite

    Don't think it will make any diffence where you put it, still won't work
    bollocks. Where did you put it out of interest?
  952. #952
    Right...

    rerouted the aerial...




    One of the dipped headlight adjusters on the morettes wasn't working so had to tackle that.


    Anyway, I'm still desperate for a taller fifth gear so nabbed a damaged spare box to practice on. Here's the fifth gearset with the syncro on top.


    So I've given up trying to find a second hand 5th gear set, so I'm going to take a risk for the sake of other saxp'ers who might want to do this, and buy a brand new gear set from Peugeot

    and that's about it. so far!

    Other things, my nearside wing mirror was scuffed so popped on a new one, I've started undersealing little patches that needed a bit of attention.
  953. #953
    you fitted them injectors yet??
    did you get any graph showing there flow rate?(before & after)???
  954. #954
    First time posting in this epic progress thread! Car looks rather sexual and its good to know such a awesome VTS has 100k odd on the clock makes me feel better as mine is nearly clocking 95k!
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  955. #955
    What gearset did you get in the end dude?
  956. #956
    The Car is alive again.

    So these were how the injectors looked when I sent them off to Injectortune...



    and this is how they looked when they came back today:



    Here's the before and after results...


    So they were running at about 93% of peak (which isn't bad for 105k mile injectors I guess?!), but now they're all flowing perfectly it seems.

    So I popped them in and refitted the intake and filter. First thing I noticed is... Christ! the engine idles so so so smoothly, it's quieter and less juddery. It's a touch more responsive although it's not obvious. I haven't gone on a good run yet but I'm hoping for some good mpg improvements.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    you fitted them injectors yet??
    did you get any graph showing there flow rate?(before & after)???
    See above dude!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ant809099 View Post
    First time posting in this epic progress thread! Car looks rather sexual and its good to know such a awesome VTS has 100k odd on the clock makes me feel better as mine is nearly clocking 95k!
    I need to get it rolling roaded mate but it feels great at the moment!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Davo106 View Post
    What gearset did you get in the end dude?
    I'm running a 1.4 xsi box man which has a 0.85 5th gear. But I've ordered a 0.767 to beef it up a bit and make motorway journeys a bit more bearable and more economical - but it's a shot in the dark as I'm going on information from knowledgeable people on gearboxes (Mankee and Raunchz) but I didn't fully take in what they were saying, although they explained it me a few times

    Something to do with the length on the input shaft spline that the 5th gear sits on

    This is the 5th gear pinion (0.85) on the output shaft.


    I'm taking that and the input pinion to Peugeot tomorrow to see if the thickness of the cogs, the number of splines and the shape of the splines are correct and if they are, then it should just pop on hopefully!?

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  957. #957
    Love Mk2 morettes win win win
  958. #958
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashl3y View Post
    Love Mk2 morettes win win win
    i disagree, this one looks good with them, and james', but that is all IMO.
  959. #959
    oops, forgot the obligatory saxo shot...



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashl3y View Post
    Love Mk2 morettes win win win
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by timmythechef View Post
    i disagree, this one looks good with them, and james', but that is all IMO.
    Cheers lads! I'm really not a fan of them if I'm honest but haven't got the will to change them over, even though I paid to have them resprayed(?!). I've got some new headlight trims but they need to be sprayed up and I just can't be arsed to get them done - I will though!!!!
  960. #960
    About the gear box what do you rly want to know? i didnt got that..

    How many teeths does the the pion you want to put have? anything pm
  961. #961
    Any more fancy pics lately Mr Sayer? I like your farty shots.
  962. #962
    Lovely car mate.
  963. #963
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CHIP View Post
    Any more fancy pics lately Mr Sayer? I like your farty shots.
    Afraid not mate! The car has been SORN since September last year! I haven't even seen it since then!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jam3s View Post
    Lovely car mate.
    Cheers!
    Funny you should bump this up - I taxed the car this week so I'm going for my first drive in the car for 5 months woop woop.

    Ok... updates.


    I've bought a replacement engine - the oil leak despite being small was annoying the hell out of me. Thought it was the coming from the sump I resealed it twice - but still no luck. Nothing appears to be coming from the HG or the cam ladders So anyway... 46k engine here I come.

    The alternator munching got on my nerves. I suspect it's related in part to the engine loom as I recall giving it a wiggle once and the battery light went mad - so there's a new engine loom to go in.

    Going to get some braided brake lines and lob some uprated driveshafts on the car but that's for another time.

    Oh and finally have a buyer for the morettes so I'm going back to standard on the front. yee haa

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  964. #964
    Good work Ads, good luck with the drive too
  965. #965
    Such a nice example of a vts mate, well done love it!
  966. #966
    Cheers chaps...

    Right... Had a week back at sayertowers, so decided to tackle the car...

    Got me some of these:
    TRS Driveshafts


    Three, yes THREE bloody abs sensors!!!


    Morettes gone! So standard headlights are back. Headlight trims for underneath were being sprayed.


    Front offside arch removed, that went off for a respray. Last year whilst driving down to Devon, I hit a puddle which somehow ripped the arch clean off, thankfully it was held on by the indicator, but dragged along the floor scratching it to high hell. So finally got round to fixing that.


    Powerflex ARB bushes... The last of the bushes to be uprated. yay


    Braided brake lines - what a nightmare! Two (both on the nearside) went on absolutely fine. The offside ones were a total bastard, the rears were really hard work and nearly rounded a union The front however just wouldn't budge and ended up bending the bracket, so I got annoyed and gave up. Otherwise... it's nearly done!



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  967. #967
    Some nice work here mate........not looking forward to doing my brakes now lol
  968. #968
    love this car, the standard exhuast being put to use i hope xxxx mucho lovo
  969. #969
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    Some nice work here mate........not looking forward to doing my brakes now lol
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by moxy89 View Post
    love this car, the standard exhuast being put to use i hope xxxx mucho lovo
    Cheers gang.

    Only things I can suggest with the brake lines is:
    1) 11mm brake spanner - don't attempt the job with an open spanner you're just heading for doom otherwise.
    2) pray some idiot french factory worker didn't do the unions up as tight as a driveshaft nut
    3) Drop the subframe down as far as you can - I just lowered mine until a few threads were connecting the bolts to the securing nuts
    4) Get the droplinks out of the way for the fronts, so buy replacement droplink nuts (they're nylock)

    moxy... I've put the standard exhaust on! It's out of MOT so I'll get it tested easter time hopefully.
  970. #970
    good luck with the work mate, looking good so far.
  971. #971
    Good stuff mate, glad to see your still cracking on with it
  972. #972
    brake lines are wank but looks like good progress man
  973. #973
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevo1600 View Post
    good luck with the work mate, looking good so far.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    Good stuff mate, glad to see your still cracking on with it
    cheers lads. I think I've gone as far as can reasonably without now spending a fortune on mods. It's been off the road for the last 7 months so I'm desperate to just get the damn thing on the roads (and in time for Bolton Abbey)

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    brake lines are wank but looks like good progress man
    Do you mean the exact brake lines are wank or just the job of changing them is wank?! haha

    Sheared a nipple last night so I've got to sort that mess out now. arghhhhh
  974. #974
    The job lol!
    Im planning on rippingvall mine out for braided everywere just to make it easier lol

    ive not seen a set of exacts so cant comment on there quality
  975. #975
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    ive not seen a set of exacts so cant comment on there quality
    They hold the brake fluid without leaking so they pass the adsayer grade of approval...

    Right my old muckers...
    Sheared a bleed nipple last week on a front caliper ARGH so set to work removing it, by drilling into the pot...


    ...except I went too far and fucked it ARGH

    So shat ma pants, ran off and bought myself a replacement set... no pre-2001 266mm's available ARGH so I bought the some post-2001 266's which meant buying a new set of disks and pads ARGHmybankaccountARGH. Went to fit them and realised I needed to grind the carriers a bit ARGH. Grinded them and BOOOMMMMMMMMMMM they're on.


    Old droplink boots were shagged.


    new ones on.


    So that was that... now, for the last 11 months or so, my car had 4, yes FUCKING FOUR warning lights up, was like a shitty discotechque.
    EML - for the decat, I hadn't tighten the lambda sleeve properly d'oh.
    Battery light - suspected I'd eaten my fifth alternator, but was charging okay! weird! sooo, I gave the terminals a wiggle...
    Brake light - thought the handbrake switch was fuggered, so replaced that back in summer last year, still on! So replaced the reservoir this week (as it has a float switch)...
    ABS light - in a nutshell the ABS was fucked. Three sensors were trashed at the final count... so they were replaced...

    The result as of tonight....


    No warning lightsS!!!! so it's ready to be MOT'd
  976. #976
    winrar!
  977. #977
    rar!!!

    Hoping some nice garage will MOT it tomorrow and then I'll stick it back in the garage again and leave it there lol.
  978. #978
    was expecting 'now for sale' at the end, glad there wasnt!

    glad to see the problems fixed. was it definatly the sensors at fault for the abs?
  979. #979
    selling?! no no no christopher. Yeah dude seemed to be just the sensors. I thought the ABS module had entered fuckdom since three sensors were rogered - so much so I had a garage lined up to carry out a diagnostics. Then I just thought 'fuck it' and plugged it all up
  980. #980
    PASS. No advisories. To celebrate I'm popping to tesco, decatting it, then leave it in the garage for a month
  981. #981
    Good news!!! Whats next for it??
  982. #982
    Finest decat or value? Buy cheap buy twice!
  983. #983
    Not much jimbob! Quite pleased that it's running and legal at the mo! Still got to lob a VTR 5th on it and/or a quaife. Noticed a chappy had a quaife VTS box on sale here but having had the XSi box I can't quite bring myself to go back!

    And the 3-plug Predator, that's probably more of a priority for me actually. I realise some might go 'LOL adsayer noob, y u no ph3s wif predator lololol' and yeah the internals of the engine are standard but it runs very well (137hp with a leaky middle, prior to the following... decat, injector clean, full inlet clean, ITG maxogen, mani wrap, fully syn eng and gear oil). I figure having the Pred means I can go back to standard octane, without sacrificing power or mpg. In fact because I can modify the map at will I can pop a safeish lightly lean mixture in a save a shit load of fuel for eco and I can optimise the fueling/hp for the uprated parts

    That's the plan ! How about yours mate?

    Pic:
  984. #984
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    Finest decat or value? Buy cheap buy twice!
    magnex!
  985. #985
    Just read through your whole thread. I'm very eager to get my doors de-locked now

    Your car is coming along very nice. I'm assuming your now running the Xsi box with a VTR 5th gear? How is it? I was planning to do the exact same (Before i even read your thread)
  986. #986
    adsayer you whore, car looks tidy very very tidy, aint got shit on mine though
  987. #987
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by logic_guy View Post
    Just read through your whole thread. I'm very eager to get my doors de-locked now

    Your car is coming along very nice. I'm assuming your now running the Xsi box with a VTR 5th gear? How is it? I was planning to do the exact same (Before i even read your thread)
    Technically it's done mate, progress has kind of stopped, I'm happy where it is at the moment - it runs superb and doesn't cost the earth to run in the process. The only reason I'll change anything on the car is if a part fails or is worn. So chances of anything changing soon are limited. I have the VTR 5th (well it's a 1.1 5th but they're the same), however it won't be going on unless there is a problem with the clutch/gearbox or something along those lines - if that does happen then I'll replace the flywheel for a lovely lightweight one too.

    That said, the last time I drove the car was going to and coming back from Le Mans and going into 5th felt a bit odd, nothing major, but felt like a notch of resistance, so it may be sooner than I anticipated!

    With the delocking, defo get it done. I can't stand seeing a matted silver lock on the saxos now Also, get it deaerialed too, aerials on cars look gay.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by moxy89 View Post
    adsayer you whore, car looks tidy very very tidy, aint got shit on mine though
    haha. Mine can have passengers in the back though.... can yours do that now?! By the way, this isn't meant to be rude or anything but I'm a little surprised by the peak hp of yours compared to mine, mine is about 13 hp up on yours, what were your mods?
  988. #988
    ran 126.6bhp with a 421 manifold... yeah check me out
  989. #989
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Also, get it deaerialed too, aerials on cars look gay.
    glad you mentioned that. where do you get the blanks from? also the rear washer jet (if there is one?)
  990. #990
    I didn't blank it dude. I had a bodyshop remove and smooth it. The rear washer I've kept (along with the wiper). I love my rear wiper too much!
  991. #991
    I'm pretty sure 5th gear can be changed with the gearbox on the car, should you need to go down that road.
  992. #992
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LeeumH View Post
    I'm pretty sure 5th gear can be changed with the gearbox on the car, should you need to go down that road.
    Agreed it can be done with box on the car.

    The only potential problem I could see would be room to get hub pulleys in there for swapping the cogs around, and access to punch out the retaining pin for the selector fork.

    That and having the wrong thickness of cog to fit the input shaft
  993. #993
    Ads - I'm right in believing that you now have 10% faster acceleration with this Xsi box, then your Vts box?

    Vts 0-60 = 7 Seconds?
    Vts (Xsi G/b) 0-60 = 6.3 seconds?

    Quite impressive really. 5th gear = fuel saver.
  994. #994
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LeeumH View Post
    I'm pretty sure 5th gear can be changed with the gearbox on the car, should you need to go down that road.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Agreed it can be done with box on the car.

    The only potential problem I could see would be room to get hub pulleys in there for swapping the cogs around, and access to punch out the retaining pin for the selector fork.

    That and having the wrong thickness of cog to fit the input shaft
    Yep I pulled off the 5th gear cover a few months back to see how much space there was to remove the cogs without pulling the box off... decided against it

    Raunchz do you know if I need to change the syncro on the 5th gear as well or can I use the VTS/sports ones, so essentially just change the cogs themselves?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by logic_guy View Post
    Ads - I'm right in believing that you now have 10% faster acceleration with this Xsi box, then your Vts box?

    Vts 0-60 = 7 Seconds?
    Vts (Xsi G/b) 0-60 = 6.3 seconds?

    Quite impressive really. 5th gear = fuel saver.
    Not quite mate, sorry I should have been more specific... you get around 4% better acceleration over a wide speed range so from 20-120 mph ish. That includes about 1.15 secs when the car is not accelerating during shifts. So the in-gear acceleration is higher, but because the in gear improvement will vary in each gear to save boggling peoples minds I just cobbled a total together from 2nd gear (hence the 10% value - also as it's probably my most used gear when I would get a chance to fully use it). The in-gear acceleration improvement will vary (worst in lower gears, best in higher gears), that's because the quantity of acceleration is roughly fixed irrespective of gear selected (due to the final drive changing - at around 0.28 m/s^2) but a breakdown is as follows:

    1st - 7.17 % increase
    2nd - 9.89 % increase
    3rd - 15.18 % increase
    4th - 33.82 % increase

    So it's more effective at the higher end.

    Hope that's not too confusing lol!

    Ads
  995. #995
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Yep I pulled off the 5th gear cover a few months back to see how much space there was to remove the cogs without pulling the box off... decided against it

    Raunchz do you know if I need to change the syncro on the 5th gear as well or can I use the VTS/sports ones, so essentially just change the cogs themselves?



    Not quite mate, sorry I should have been more specific... you get around 4% better acceleration over a wide speed range so from 20-120 mph ish. That includes about 1.15 secs when the car is not accelerating during shifts. So the in-gear acceleration is higher, but because the in gear improvement will vary in each gear to save boggling peoples minds I just cobbled a total together from 2nd gear (hence the 10% value - also as it's probably my most used gear when I would get a chance to fully use it). The in-gear acceleration improvement will vary (worst in lower gears, best in higher gears), that's because the quantity of acceleration is roughly fixed irrespective of gear selected (due to the final drive changing - at around 0.28 m/s^2) but a breakdown is as follows:

    1st - 7.17 % increase
    2nd - 9.89 % increase
    3rd - 15.18 % increase
    4th - 33.82 % increase

    So it's more effective at the higher end.

    Hope that's not too confusing lol!

    Ads
    Yes, VERY. Your a very clever lad, put it that way (Thats if your not trying to make it all up lol)

    Simply as i understand, you now have 7.17% quicker acceleration in gear 1, 9.89% quicker acceleration in gear 2..... so on so forth ?

    Did you mention in a earlier post that you made a spread sheets to work out the gearing's ? Would you be able to send me a copy if that would be ok?

    Thanks
  996. #996
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by logic_guy View Post
    Yes, VERY. Your a very clever lad, put it that way (Thats if your not trying to make it all up lol)

    Simply as i understand, you now have 7.17% quicker acceleration in gear 1, 9.89% quicker acceleration in gear 2..... so on so forth ?

    Did you mention in a earlier post that you made a spread sheets to work out the gearing's ? Would you be able to send me a copy if that would be ok?

    Thanks
    Sorry about that mate, if makes it any better I read it back to myself and it doesn't make any sense to me either. Yeah the benefits in acceleration are most pronounced at the higher gears rather than the lower ones. 33 % sounds ace but you have to remember that the rate of acceleration in 4th is pretty low by that point - end result though is the car is quicker, which is the important bit!

    Yeah the spread sheet (or Saxo Calculator as I call it)... is here

    Ads!
  997. #997
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    Sorry about that mate, if makes it any better I read it back to myself and it doesn't make any sense to me either. Yeah the benefits in acceleration are most pronounced at the higher gears rather than the lower ones. 33 % sounds ace but you have to remember that the rate of acceleration in 4th is pretty low by that point - end result though is the car is quicker, which is the important bit!

    Yeah the spread sheet (or Saxo Calculator as I call it)... is here

    Ads!
    You sir, are a gent!

    I have to install Excel, i will do this tomorrow. I'm assuming you can change gear ratio's and tells you acceleration times etc etc,

    Thank you very much x

    Edit - Some Macro's are corrupt in the section "Speed per gear, per RPM"
  998. #998
    You can use the sports synchro as far as I remember

    + I just get #NAME all the way through the speed per gear calculation
  999. #999
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by logic_guy View Post
    You sir, are a gent!

    I have to install Excel, i will do this tomorrow. I'm assuming you can change gear ratio's and tells you acceleration times etc etc,

    Thank you very much x

    Edit - Some Macro's are corrupt in the section "Speed per gear, per RPM"
    Yep you can dude


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    You can use the sports synchro as far as I remember

    + I just get #NAME all the way through the speed per gear calculation
    Brill that makes life a little easier.

    Not so brill, on the speed per gear... You guys sure you're okay'd the use of the macro?

    Ads
  1000. #1000
    Yes, We Ok'd it
  1001. #1001
    tried v1.51?
  1002. #1002
    i'll try 1.51 when i get a chance - nice excel workbook though !!

    I work with Excel all day long at work with some big workbooks, so can appreciate a good workbook !
  1003. #1003
    Cheers mate! It's a state, it could do with being re-built from the ground up tbh. I'll do that once I've refined the modelling though, still loads to do really. If you spot anything or can think of anyways to improve it feel free to amend it or let me know!
  1004. #1004
    okay... new update...

    new exhaust!



    Thanks to yates for giving it to me.
  1005. #1005
    bet if I was adsayer I'd have 239487 replies by now going 'nice car m8'...
  1006. #1006
    looks nice there wavey hair owner
  1007. #1007
    Nice car m8...


    You said Yates "gave it to you"...as in...free of charge?!?!
  1008. #1008
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jayyoung View Post
    Nice car m8...


    You said Yates "gave it to you"...as in...free of charge?!?!
    Unfortunately it wasn't free of charge. I witnessed the sexual favours.
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  1009. #1009
    Where did you get the driveshafts from?
  1010. #1010
    Nice car m8


    Someone had to say it
  1011. #1011
    Sick exhaust bruv
  1012. #1012
    It's on and it's ace compared to the magnex (magnex is still good though). I love the noise, really deep tone, not of this raspy shite.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    looks nice there wavey hair owner
    I have no wavey hair gav sad times

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jayyoung View Post
    Nice car m8...


    You said Yates "gave it to you"...as in...free of charge?!?!


    Well kind of I....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Viper View Post
    Unfortunately it wasn't free of charge. I witnessed the sexual favours.
    ... gave him an ecu and a loom and stuff. And he gave me the exhaust which was very kind of him.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dyl View Post
    Where did you get the driveshafts from?
    TRS motorsport dude (who are now defuncted) - pm Alex B he might be able to help you there.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    Nice car m8


    Someone had to say it


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rey View Post
    Sick exhaust bruv
  1013. #1013
    I wish I'd had a chance to get a BTB on one of my old saxos, I remember hearing souless-kisskiss's and falling in love.

    Looks sexual on dude
  1014. #1014
    Right it's done. Pretty much happy with it the way it is. Gave it a clean for the first time in maybe 8-9 months.


  1015. #1015
    yay the front end is now manly
  1016. #1016
    That is a very nice example of a two tone you have there mate, not many left like that now!
  1017. #1017
    Mint gti airbagged leather and that car would be perfect... Maybe a set of bodies !!!!
  1018. #1018
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by moxy89 View Post
    Mint gti airbagged leather and that car would be perfect... Maybe a set of bodies !!!!
    Lee's GTI interior is still for sale Ads, worth a look perhaps ;-)
  1019. #1019
    Sorry lads only just seen this!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    yay the front end is now manly
    I know I know. I sold the morettes back in Feb (I think), so was running around without the headlight trims for ages, even took it to Le Mans like that which was embarrassing (it's embarrassing enough driving a saxo but you get what I mean).

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jimbo06 View Post
    That is a very nice example of a two tone you have there mate, not many left like that now!
    Indeed, they might be worth something in 30 years

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by moxy89 View Post
    Mint gti airbagged leather and that car would be perfect... Maybe a set of bodies !!!!
    Been there with the GTI interior, and honestly, I really don't like it. It's way better than the VTS interior, but the upkeep is insane on them - the alcantara wears so badly and so quick that I can't justify paying to have it in my car.

    Bodies..... naaaaa

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willsy View Post
    Lee's GTI interior is still for sale Ads, worth a look perhaps ;-)
    haha, not for me. As said I'm done!
  1020. #1020
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Barry123 View Post
    Gave it a clean for the first time in maybe 8-9 months.


    Congratulations
  1021. #1021
    Looks really good, 8-9 months is criminal!
  1022. #1022
    Nice car m8.
  1023. #1023
    Coming up to 118k

    PAS cylinder, under the steering rack has popped a seal so I've been losing fluid will be replacing it very shortly.

    Otherwise going well, still very economical. This was a 70 mph run...

    estimate 50 mpg.
  1024. #1024
  1025. #1025
    319 on half a tank, my furio manages 280 on a full tank.

    Thats amazing !
  1026. #1026
    your furio must be doing something wrong as my old quiky not matter how much I battered it did close to 400miles a tank every time.

    Lord Sayer the Petrol Saving force is strong in you!
  1027. #1027
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by baker556 View Post
    319 on half a tank, my furio manages 280 on a full tank.

    Thats amazing !
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    your furio must be doing something wrong as my old quiky not matter how much I battered it did close to 400miles a tank every time.

    Lord Sayer the Petrol Saving force is strong in you!
    +1 I got at least 350 miles out of my old VTR on a full tank. At least.
  1028. #1028
    vts dials in a derv
  1029. #1029
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    your furio must be doing something wrong as my old quiky not matter how much I battered it did close to 400miles a tank every time.

    Lord Sayer the Petrol Saving force is strong in you!
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rey View Post
    +1 I got at least 350 miles out of my old VTR on a full tank. At least.
    Wow i wish mine was even close to that it works out at something ridiculous like 30mpg its just to low. High mileage bad idle etc doesn't help its on its last legs tbh.
  1030. #1030
    Thats awesome.

    Is that with a none standard backbox etc?
  1031. #1031
    Cheers lads. I know it's not an update as such, just to post to say the car is still running and running well I love it still. I can just be pootling along and it makes me smile.

    Need to get an RR done of it. Hoping for 110+ at the wheels..

    The backbox, well the entire mani-back system, is a BTB without dummy cat.
    Wrapped Raceland 4-2-1 mani
    ITG Maxogen induction kit
    And that's it really.
  1032. #1032
    Tempted me to drive eco now haha.

    I wouldnt say mines bad on fuel its pretty good. not as good as that!
  1033. #1033
    Thing is im not driving in an ouvertly economical fashion it still has the xsi box with its ridiculously short 5th. Driving wise I'd say I'm normal and don't drive like a spacker, I bang it up to 70 mph and just stick there. I still give the ocassional blast from those bastard M1 50 mph roadworks back to 70. Or coming off the a249 roundabouts. Fuck knows what I'd get if I tried to be economical with it. It's cheap to run so I'm not too fussed at the moment. Tax is a bastard though.
    Should mention as well it had the injectors ultra sonic'd a while back, its not running shit rubber and tweeqd off here tracked it for me recently which all will aid it with the running costs.
  1034. #1034
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Barry123 View Post
    Thing is im not driving in an ouvertly economical fashion it still has the xsi box with its ridiculously short 5th. Driving wise I'd say I'm normal and don't drive like a spacker, I bang it up to 70 mph and just stick there. I still give the ocassional blast from those bastard M1 50 mph roadworks back to 70. Or coming off the a249 roundabouts. Fuck knows what I'd get if I tried to be economical with it. It's cheap to run so I'm not too fussed at the moment. Tax is a bastard though.
    Should mention as well it had the injectors ultra sonic'd a while back, its not running shit rubber and tweeqd off here tracked it for me recently which all will aid it with the running costs.
    Most times i drive under 2.5k other then B roads i take it upto 6k max but thats only to have abit of 'fun'.

    Yeah the tax is

    I still think its alot for for what it is. I wont go into that as i have no idea. All i know is its OTT per 6month.
  1035. #1035
    Right...

    Been on the upgrade path recently,
    ATSpeed/TTV flywheel - from wicked-vtr (cheers matey!)


    Quaife diff in 1.4 xsi box - from aly (cheers matey!)


    Other bits include alloy crank and alternator pulleys, replaced wishbones and clutch.

    Start up is stupidly quick, it revs stupidly quick and it feels loads more keener in general. That diff is mad though. Took it on a 350 mile 'test drive' last night, about 340 miles in I thought I'd just push it a bit on the roundabout, bloody hell it just grips! Transforms the car.
  1036. #1036
    The diff is great to try and rip the wheel out of your hands lol..
  1037. #1037
    diffs are awesome

    i keep being tempted to get mine wound up when its back out the box
  1038. #1038
    Got no power steering at the mo too!
  1039. #1039
    removed or broken??
  1040. #1040
    My bet is on broken
  1041. #1041
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    diffs are awesome

    i keep being tempted to get mine wound up when its back out the box
    As yours has gone a bit loose and needs servicing or you want it with less slip dude??

    Yeah powersteering is broken. Got to replace the ram under the steering gear but haven't a fockin clue where to start on it at the moment.
  1042. #1042
    im just curious as to how savage itll be wound up
    ive not found the limit of where it is set but just whilst its out hmmm kinda moment

    and broken pas sucks i remember when mine failed on the.diablo it was horrible
  1043. #1043
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Barry123 View Post
    Right...

    Been on the upgrade path recently,
    ATSpeed/TTV flywheel - from wicked-vtr (cheers matey!)


    Quaife diff in 1.4 xsi box - from aly (cheers matey!)


    Other bits include alloy crank and alternator pulleys, replaced wishbones and clutch.

    Start up is stupidly quick, it revs stupidly quick and it feels loads more keener in general. That diff is mad though. Took it on a 350 mile 'test drive' last night, about 340 miles in I thought I'd just push it a bit on the roundabout, bloody hell it just grips! Transforms the car.
    Sorry for the epic bump.

    No problem Adz, I would love a run out in this bet it goes well with the diff
  1044. #1044
    It's still going strong...! 143k miles on it too
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  1045. #1045
    Sup everyone.

    Small update. I took it off the road a little over four years ago and kind of forgot about it tbh.

    Anyway, it went through its MOT last week ,one advisory which honestly was shock given its:
    1) old as hell
    2) left to rot in a garage for four years
    3) and well, it's french.

    Anyway, great to have it back on the road and receiving dirty looks from passers-by

    Edit: can't remember for the life of me how to upload pics
  1046. #1046
  1047. #1047
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Barry123 View Post
    photoshop
  1048. #1048
    It's real. Just took it from a distance so all the imperfections don't show up
  1049. #1049
    Garaged is why its been ok. Awesome to see youre still kicking about in yours
  1050. #1050
    Get it back in the garage before Craig buys it as an investment!
  1051. #1051
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Get it back in the garage before Craig buys it as an investment!
    My ears were burning...
  1052. #1052
    Stalker!

    i wish i was cool enough to have a stalker
  1053. #1053
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Get it back in the garage before Craig buys it as an investment!
    haha! What are they worth these days?

    I checked a few years ago and they were selling for about £300 (which is about the same cost as the tax for a year)

    EDIT: ermmm bloody hell. Autotrader they're in the £4k region!! Are these dreamers or are they really changing hands at those sorts of money?
  1054. #1054
    Craig will tell you they go for £500, buy it and then stick it in his ever growing collection of 911's and retire off of it in ten years.

    In all seriousness no idea what they go for now for a good one
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  1055. #1055
    Well it's enough to convince me to garage it again for another 4 years.

    The saxo has been SORNd again.
    See you in four years when I sell it to a collector for billions