saxo turbo

22nd December 2008, 23:43

can anyone help me?

i want to put a turbo n my 1.6 vtr,so i was wondering if any one could put me in the rite direction to pick one up,
i dont want to b spending £1000s on it so somewhere i could get a recondition one would b brill.

22nd December 2008, 23:46

here`s a few guides that have loads of info. and welcome mate

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=127180

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=167335

22nd December 2008, 23:46

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Not an other want to turbo my car for 5pence thread..

To do it right you need to spend a good bit of cash its not just a case of chucking a turbo in the engine bay..

23rd December 2008, 00:08

yup defo not a 500 job lol

23rd December 2008, 00:17

nah nah, it is a £500 quid job, remember the boy with a clio as their avatar or something like that, that got his car turbo'd for £500 and it's REALLY GOOD

23rd December 2008, 00:36

First things first ... Buy VTS engine.

23rd December 2008, 02:12

you need a decent turbo, a manifold making up, intercooler, some sort of managment for fueling, exhaust down pipe, oil cooler, bigger brakes, better clutch. turbo pipework and hosing. some way of lowering the compression.
then you have the cost of mapping the car to set the fueling.

you are looking at a few grand there just for a basic setup.

its has been done alot cheaper and can be done cheaper if you know what you are doing.

my advice would be to think hard about it and save hard.

its not good cutting corners to save a few quid here and there, you are placing excess stress on your engine and something will give if you do the cheap bodge job option.
you will pay the price big time.

please dont fall for the, get your car turbo'd for £500 crew.

you can have a reliable setup, that will give many cars a really good run for there money and put a really big smile on your face every time you drive it.

for big boost and big power you need to play with the internals and lower the compression and use stronger forged low comp pistons and forged con rods.

it can be done and there are many big power saxos out there that will upset alot of performance and dare i say it supercars

23rd December 2008, 02:13

have a look at www.dp-engineering.nl they are some very good turbo kits and come highly recommended

23rd December 2008, 10:38

have a look at GMC mate, just type them into google.

23rd December 2008, 11:02

buy a vts

23rd December 2008, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferg

First things first ... Buy VTS engine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxotourdecorse

buy a vts

or he could tune a vtr
who cares if its 8valves short

23rd December 2008, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

or he could tune a vtr
who cares if its 8valves short

i agree 8v is still good, never gonna be as good, but still very good.

8V POWER!! lol

23rd December 2008, 13:22

8V boost FTW!!!!!

23rd December 2008, 13:25

jesus there is a thread 4 down, with a fucking huge IMPORTANT heading, that states all the parts you need to turbo your car.

R-E-A-D

23rd December 2008, 13:29

why is that everyone says "vts" it! yes they are a good engine, a cracking engine, but lets be honest every man and his dog are doing it. it's about time that someone wants to tune the vtr lump instead of following what evryone says to do. just do it the right way and take the advice given so that you dont end up blowing up the engine.

23rd December 2008, 13:33

its not about following a trend, its about tuning the very best engine there is.

23rd December 2008, 13:38

true, the "s" lump is a good engine as i said, but it tends to be now everyone says do the "S" conversion. whats wrong with the "R" lump? i think its about time that someone did something different than do an "S" conversion. and as he said he wants to turbo the vtr.

23rd December 2008, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtcarl

true, the "s" lump is a good engine as i said, but it tends to be now everyone says do the "S" conversion.

I agree, if eveyone did as told on here there would be no vtr's on the road by 2010

23rd December 2008, 13:53

because its a better engine, simple.

value for money its the best option for power

23rd December 2008, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by boz

have a look at www.dp-engineering.nl they are some very good turbo kits and come highly recommended

what kit do you need? has TU and XU 8v

this kit should be bought asap cos the euro is gettin stronger

edit: its the TU kit, the cheapest wooo haha

23rd December 2008, 15:35

go for a rotrex supercharger buddy.

and use the vtr lump, more torque too and cheaper, but rebuild the engine new pistons rods gaskets etc then a service, slap the rotrex on and your away, or you could do what im doing and build a hybrid saxo ford useing a zetec 2ltr with 8valve cvh head and focus st170 6 speed box, your shout buddy be different.

23rd December 2008, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by DusheR

what kit do you need? has TU and XU 8v

this kit should be bought asap cos the euro is gettin stronger

edit: its the TU kit, the cheapest wooo haha

aye bud, its the TU bv kit

thats the very basic you will need for a good turbo conversion. you will still need standalone etc, not to sure if that kit comes with all pipe work and injectors etc, sure you need that too. as well as a stronger clutch from the likes of ap racing or helix at the least.

then you could go all out and get some forged internals

or you could wait until i sell my supercharger and a few of the bits that go with it

lol

23rd December 2008, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by don55

because its a better engine, simple.

value for money its the best option for power

i dont disagree about the engine, the 16v lump is good. but the point is by me why does everyone say get a vts when theres nothing wrong with the vtr lump. it would only increase the cost more to an already big budget. if the lad wants to turbo the vtr then i think he should be backed instead of told to follow what they say to do just because of their opinion. again i DO think that the "S" lump is a good engine, ive driven a very good vts but i think that now a days the "s" route is becoming the norm. i applaud him for being different and wanting to do different. im 35 and drive a vtr, most people would say to me get a bmw or some big engined car. but im happy with the "R" cause im different, i like to have something different from the norm. but if he chooses to go the vts route then i would still back him.

23rd December 2008, 17:50

you dont have to have a vts lump.
most peeps recommend it as you get 120bhp as a starting point without having to spend the same amount of cash on the vtr to get it to that 120bhp.

i personally loved my vtr and didnt want to change to the vts engine, was happy with the SC on the 8v motor.
but as the engine was wrecked after the fire, i was offered a vts engine at a bargain price and went for it.

you can still get big bhp out of a boosted 8v motor (just look at the grey AX on here, forgot the guys name :-( sorry)
just takes a wee bit more cash.

modding your car is all down to what you want to do, dont let people tell you what to do.
some people are just offering the experience they have. if you choose to follow them or make your own way across the field, its up to you.

either engine boosted, will make you smile and you will have a great car under you.
just make sure its done the right way, DONT CUT COSTS OR CORNERS

23rd December 2008, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by boz

you dont have to have a vts lump.
most peeps recommend it as you get 120bhp as a starting point without having to spend the same amount of cash on the vtr to get it to that 120bhp.

i personally loved my vtr and didnt want to change to the vts engine, was happy with the SC on the 8v motor.
but as the engine was wrecked after the fire, i was offered a vts engine at a bargain price and went for it.

you can still get big bhp out of a boosted 8v motor (just look at the grey AX on here, forgot the guys name :-( sorry)
just takes a wee bit more cash.

modding your car is all down to what you want to do, dont let people tell you what to do.
some people are just offering the experience they have. if you choose to follow them or make your own way across the field, its up to you.

either engine boosted, will make you smile and you will have a great car under you.
just make sure its done the right way, DONT CUT COSTS OR CORNERS

i agree with the said comment mate.

just didn't want to come across the i was being an arguementative person just like the debate.

23rd December 2008, 21:04

i built a vtr turbo engine, so im not disputing it.

fact was a vtr engine cost me 80 to work on a vts would have been 500

23rd December 2008, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by don55

its not about following a trend, its about tuning the very best engine there is.

23rd December 2008, 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by grant_evans

that comes in a saxo

24th December 2008, 00:22

log manifold ftw!

24th December 2008, 02:37

i had a turbo 205 gti and the head gasket went after 1500 miles even tho i'd let it warm up/cool down and the turbo started smoking even tho i bought it as 'new'.

24th December 2008, 02:38

buy cheap, buy twice. do it cheaply sure, but it'll hardly ever work and you'll have to keep fiddling with it...