Janspeed vs Raceland Mani

1. paulharrison999 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 295 2001 Mauritous Blue, Saxo VTR 1.6 8v

   #1 7th January 2009, 23:37

   For a 2001 MK2 VTR (2 lambda sensors) i cant decide on which to choose, do u still have the problems of moving the oil filter wif the janspeed? whats the noise and power difference between them???? need peoples views and opinions please
   
   Paul
2. user_7256 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 7657

   #2 7th January 2009, 23:42

   a mani is a mani, so would go for raceland as its cheaper but will be harder to fit.
3. paulharrison999 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 295 2001 Mauritous Blue, Saxo VTR 1.6 8v

   #3 7th January 2009, 23:45

   from kamracing atm theres a discount for saxp members and there £130 +vat same as the raceland mate so thats whats making me think bowt the janspeed, is there oil filter problems wif the janspeed, and does the janspeed have 2 lambda holes?
4. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

   #4 8th January 2009, 01:02

   The janspeed is 10000 times better fit, there is the oil filter problem but it isnt hard to sort out, all aftermarket manifolds have 1 hole for a lambda, the other will need to be sleeved!
5. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #5 8th January 2009, 01:20

   aint the Janspeeds Aluminium, where as the Raceland is stainless steel, therefore producing different sounds?
6. paulharrison999 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 295 2001 Mauritous Blue, Saxo VTR 1.6 8v

   #6 8th January 2009, 08:35

   well i think the janspeed is alumised mild steel but i have a full mild steel system atm, 3" ashley comp back box and supersprint centre pipe so was thinking a mild steel mani is just as good to go wif my system why do u still have to relocate the oil filter wif the janspeed? and what do you do about the oil pressure switch aswell?
   
   Paul
7. VTSTomE Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Hereford Posts: 1381 Indigo 16v Rallye + 2 VTS's

   #7 8th January 2009, 09:25

   Get neither and save for piper /supersprint.
8. paulharrison999 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 295 2001 Mauritous Blue, Saxo VTR 1.6 8v

   #8 8th January 2009, 09:36

   i cant realli as my front pipe is snapped atm on bottom of mani requires a new mani, so im just either guna get janspeed or raceland dont av the funds for either piper/supersprint even tho i would like one, unless i can get one second hand.
   
   Paul
9. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

   #9 8th January 2009, 09:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Nick_106 The janspeed is 10000 times better fit, there is the oil filter problem but it isnt hard to sort out, all aftermarket manifolds have 1 hole for a lambda, the other will need to be sleeved!

   My supersprint mani has two holes for the lambda sensors
   
   Ive goe mates that has got the raceland mani and its a sh*t fit, some have had to file away the holes for it to got on the engine!! You got what you pay for
10. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #10 8th January 2009, 09:48

    janspeed out of those two for me.
    Isnt much price difference at all.
11. paulharrison999 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 295 2001 Mauritous Blue, Saxo VTR 1.6 8v

    #11 8th January 2009, 09:55

    thanks steve, wat about noise difference between both of them considering i already have a full mildsteel cat back system.
    
    Paul
12. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

    #12 8th January 2009, 11:52

    The raceland is stainless where as the janspeed is mild steel, there is a small sound diffrence i would of thought!
13. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

    #13 8th January 2009, 17:30

    Mild steel doesnt crack either!
14. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #14 8th January 2009, 17:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paulharrison999 thanks steve, wat about noise difference between both of them considering i already have a full mildsteel cat back system. Paul

    barely be a notice in sound mate.
15. paulharrison999 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 295 2001 Mauritous Blue, Saxo VTR 1.6 8v

    #15 8th January 2009, 17:59

    i think im guna go for the janspeed and heatwrap it be different every1 has raceland and i just want to try somet different out, im not particularly fussed that the janspeed is mild steel the heatwrap will protect that little bit extra anyway and it must do somet to improve performance i cant w8, just awaiting my ashley back box now, POTN are takin the michael delivering it !! lol
    
    i think equipped wif my supersprint race centre and ashley back box it should sound mint !
    
    Paul
16. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

    #16 8th January 2009, 18:15

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Saxo-VTR-106-X...742.m153.l1262
    
    They'll take offers as low as £135.
17. paulharrison999 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 295 2001 Mauritous Blue, Saxo VTR 1.6 8v

    #17 8th January 2009, 22:52

    cheers buddy free p+p aswell thats mint does anyone no if u still have to move the oil filter to the mk1 position wif the Janspeed? also where can i buy a sleeve for my second lambda sensor and wheres the best place t put it once sleeved.
    
    Paul
18. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

    #18 9th January 2009, 00:15

    You still will have to move the oil filter to mk1 position, and you can get a lambda sleeve from GMCmotorsport.co.uk there 15 quid + p&p
19. paulharrison999 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 295 2001 Mauritous Blue, Saxo VTR 1.6 8v

    #19 9th January 2009, 08:03

    ok thanks nick, what do i do about the oil pressure switch then? do i have to buy a new one or just simply move it?
20. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

    #20 9th January 2009, 11:16

    theres a guide somewhere, ill go grab for ya

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21. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

    #21 9th January 2009, 11:17

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87713
    
    guide to do the manifold and mk1 oil filter change!

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22. paulharrison999 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 295 2001 Mauritous Blue, Saxo VTR 1.6 8v

    #22 9th January 2009, 12:21

    cheers matey
23. Ferg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4928 Clio 197 Cup

    #23 9th January 2009, 12:22

    I've got a Raceland ... No complaints with it thus far.
24. L333vvI Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 bristol Posts: 131 citroen saxo vtr 02 and a citreon berlingo van

    #24 18th January 2009, 20:59

    gotta get a supersprint surely bud no probs with the oil filter on mk2 with them according to raceland
25. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #25 19th January 2009, 00:15

    supersprint ...................
26. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #26 19th January 2009, 09:52

    Supersprint is about twice as much though, Id go for Janspeed had one on mine and it does make a vast improvement plus its black no shiny whore stuff for me
27. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #27 19th January 2009, 09:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cj_99 Supersprint is about twice as much though

    they are the best made out there though
28. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #28 19th January 2009, 10:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing they are the best made out there though

    Yeah but its £260
29. luthor1 Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1802

    #29 19th January 2009, 10:36

    Get the Janspeed, and paint it with exhaust paint - corrosion problem solved
    
    They are a great fit too, on the mk1 it's plug and play.
    
    Andy
30. L333vvI Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 bristol Posts: 131 citroen saxo vtr 02 and a citreon berlingo van

    #30 22nd January 2009, 17:10

    hes got mk2 though aint he
31. Skinner-4 Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Trowbridge (Wiltshire) Posts: 409 1986 MK1 GOLF C

    #31 23rd January 2009, 15:44

    Yeah i also have a MK 2 VTR and i need of a mani have about £250 to spend but have MOT on 7th of Feb and cat pipe is shagged i belive so dont think will pass emissions so what manifold would be best?
    
    Im thiking the Janspeed with sports cat or not?
32. Skinner-4 Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Trowbridge (Wiltshire) Posts: 409 1986 MK1 GOLF C

    #32 23rd January 2009, 15:46

    Also any fitting issues with this?
33. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #33 23rd January 2009, 15:58

    the sport cat version is realy good still. The cat has half the number of cells of the o/e version and shouldn't effect performance as much.
    
    keeps the car road legal too
34. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #34 23rd January 2009, 16:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoshB Mild steel doesnt crack either!

    No but it does rust badly if you heatwrap it
35. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #35 23rd January 2009, 16:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo No but it does rust badly if you heatwrap it

    use a paint instead and it will be fine.
36. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #36 23rd January 2009, 17:00

    What like black hammerite then wrapping, or using that ceramic coating shizzle?
37. Skinner-4 Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Trowbridge (Wiltshire) Posts: 409 1986 MK1 GOLF C

    #37 28th January 2009, 09:21

    will it clear the oil filter? or will it need moving?
38. Docsamty Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Oxfordshire - Banbury Posts: 713 S1 Rallye

    #38 28th January 2009, 15:34

    what does the 'heat wrap' actually do?