JP's 220+bhp NA 16v Mango Westcoast - 2015 updates!

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#1 24th January 2009, 06:33

Ok guys,its time to get a thread up on whats going on with my Saxo now...

To recap, Stage 1

-Rear Disk Beam
-266mm 206 brakes shiz +Braided hoses
-15inch Pro Race 1.2's
-106 Gti Leather
-Group n front billies with 175lb faulkner springs + Group n top mounts
-B8 billie rears
-Poly bushed all round and group n rear wishbone bushes

Stage 2

-Completely rebuilt 16v engine
-GMC Jenvey throttle boddies
-Cat cam 708s + Forged high comp pistons
-16v fuel system installed
-Stripped + resprayed engine bay
-Custom Front strut brace + top strut strengthening plates
-24mm rear arb
-kms standalone ecu + wideband
-Brand new LSD'd vts gearbox
-GMC 4-1 BTB manifold
-13row oil cooler + sandwich plate
-R888's all round
-Lower group a engine mount
-vts rad system
-Procomp induction system

When i left the UK in August it looked like this:-

Ok for you that read the PFC feature you would know that my plan to make it more track orientated, this is already well under way!

So far i've sourced:-

A full BTB exhaust system
16 row oil cooler
Proper group n rear billies
1.1 FD for my Gearbox
3inch TRS 4 point harnesses

The rest of the plans are:-

QEP lightened and balenced Flywheel
Stripped interior
Black Kevlar Suzuka bucket seats with subframes
Fit both upper group n engine mounts
Hi-spec 4 pot front brakes / disks / Mintex 1155 pads
New rear pads and disks
At least 1 new R888 (that got raped at Donny )

As soon as this is done at the end of the summer i'll start some serious NA engine work!

Will keep you all up to date on this thread....
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#2 24th January 2009, 07:28

nice mate i like it what bhp is it?
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#3 24th January 2009, 07:41

Easily one of the best cars on here mate. Will follow progress closely. Love it
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#4 24th January 2009, 09:00

spot on as usuall mate, get some pics up of the progress
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#5 24th January 2009, 09:13

Sexy as fooook
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#6 24th January 2009, 12:11

always loved this car mate, cant wait to see what happens to it next!
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#7 24th January 2009, 12:18

will be good to see this come together mate
shame your across the world to not work on it lol

will deffo be a lot better in the new form
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#8 24th January 2009, 12:31

looks the business mate... love yellow with black rims cars
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#9 24th January 2009, 23:32

I will try and get my bro to take pics of the work lads, its difficult being half way round the world!

Cheers for all the kind comments, im hoping it should make it a solid track car especially once the cage and engine are done next winter
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#10 24th January 2009, 23:34

have you decided on a cage yet??
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#11 24th January 2009, 23:36

A good list that Josh, will get a hell of a lot more of out the car which will be interesting
to see. This the final stage or..?
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#12 24th January 2009, 23:43

nice list josh, i like it.

what happened to more power in that stage 3 spec list though?
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#13 24th January 2009, 23:51

Alot of good work gone into it i realy like it
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#14 24th January 2009, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushy_23

A good list that Josh, will get a hell of a lot more of out the car which will be interesting
to see. This the final stage or..?

you should know its not rushy
he will find a way to get more from it
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#15 24th January 2009, 23:56

Need to add "change rear lights". Thats been way overdue
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#16 25th January 2009, 00:05

haha Rush your gay! Lee - need to be sensible and weight up my options, ive decided its best to do a proper job over next winter than to do a half arsed job just to get it ready for the ring!

Alex - cage will be the lightweight omp one with added bars
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#17 25th January 2009, 00:08

josh you planning a pistons out job again? your dads gonna love you!

at least its not a kitchen table job or else you will be in the dog house
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#18 25th January 2009, 00:09

you going silly with tha cage or semi normal?

i wanna see someone else with a cage like mine lol
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#19 25th January 2009, 00:14

Semi normal Alex, need to be weight conscious!

Yes bottom end rebuild again Ryan, will do a proper job this time rods etc
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#20 25th January 2009, 00:16

lol ripping the engine appart again, should have done rods before

at least will mean you can rev it properly then, although i expect sandy might encourage you to ditch the GMC airbox and trumpets. The cams you said on shed he seems to have used in a few engines now.
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#21 25th January 2009, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Semi normal Alex, need to be weight conscious!

lol im countering the weight of mine with an angle grinder
should be good lol
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#22 23rd February 2009, 10:22

Sneak peek...

I should have a good update for you all soon!
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#23 23rd February 2009, 11:08

ast coilovers then josh
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#24 23rd February 2009, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Sneak peek...

Loves it
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#25 23rd February 2009, 11:39

Jubbly.
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#26 23rd February 2009, 12:05

finally going less poofy on it then

wicked yo¬
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#27 23rd February 2009, 12:20

Will you be able to adjust caster and camber with those?
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#28 23rd February 2009, 12:40

whore
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#29 23rd February 2009, 12:42

Ive ordered a set of these too, should be here this week - they look mint mate!!

You go for the AST topmounts also?
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#30 23rd February 2009, 12:45

How much are those beasts?

And how are you doing all this work on your car when you're thousands of miles away?
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#31 23rd February 2009, 12:46

very nice mate stunning infact, good job
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#32 23rd February 2009, 13:41

hoho!
Very nice mister jp.
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#33 23rd February 2009, 13:42

Looking nice Josh.
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#34 23rd February 2009, 13:47

are they the ones the guy was flogging on 106 Moaners?
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#35 23rd February 2009, 16:16

looking good josh, i gave the leathers a shave the other week came up awesome
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#36 24th February 2009, 09:58

all i will say is this mountain of parts in this house is epic
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#37 24th February 2009, 11:52

LOL thats a pic of lewis' coilovers Joshweiner
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#38 24th February 2009, 11:55

you just carnt help it can you josh! you have to try and keep up even on the other side of the world!lol
see you on the ring!
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#39 24th February 2009, 12:41

aron he knows the xsi will be quick so hes on a mission lol
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#40 25th February 2009, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

ast coilovers then josh

Thats the one mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom

Loves it

haha cheers pal!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Will you be able to adjust caster and camber with those?

Just caster i think mate but i need to take a closer look when im back to fit them!

Hows your project going mate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

finally going less poofy on it then

wicked yo¬

Exactly Ry, going all out on it this time round...

Quote:

Originally Posted by WIDE-VTR-TURBO

Ive ordered a set of these too, should be here this week - they look mint mate!!

You go for the AST topmounts also?

They have been getting very good reviews so i thought why not! Yes i have the AST adjustable top mounts as well

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo180

How much are those beasts?

And how are you doing all this work on your car when you're thousands of miles away?

Too much but well worth it mate! Im collecting parts as we speak, Sam and Dad will be fitting the basic bits and bobs as and when they get time and ill be fitting the rest once im home (have about a week spare between when i get home and when i go to the ring).

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Originally Posted by laurenceharding

very nice mate stunning infact, good job

Cheers pal!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl

hoho!
Very nice mister jp.

Cheers Karl - is that a cage i see in your avitar?! I need a cage...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke

Looking nice Josh.

Thanks Luke!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

are they the ones the guy was flogging on 106 Moaners?

Thats right mate, and i have the AST top mounts on the way with 230lb springs for them, oh and just ordered some new wheel bearings for them

Quote:

Originally Posted by gav1513

looking good josh, i gave the leathers a shave the other week came up awesome

Hey mate, glad your happy with it, you'll have to pop over when im back - or even come to the ring with us?!! you got a project thread anywhere on here?

Quote:

Originally Posted by piggy123

all i will say is this mountain of parts in this house is epic

Haha too true Sam, plenty more parts to come - and make sure you get me some pictures when you get chance mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aron

you just carnt help it can you josh! you have to try and keep up even on the other side of the world!lol
see you on the ring!

Haha too true Aron - I just cant help myself mate!! Cant wait for the ring mate, going to be seriously awesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

aron he knows the xsi will be quick so hes on a mission lol

That strange... thats almost exactly what i said to Aron last night on msn... haha. Im loving his car, i seriously cant wait to see how quick it is round the ring in the summer! And yes i am on a mission.... Plenty more you dont know about / to come mate...

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#41 25th February 2009, 10:41

gunna be good tbh josh
if you need a hand in your week of madness let me know and if im about ill pop over and help
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#42 25th February 2009, 19:56

wow i think your car looks amazing.. a lot better than my west coast

at the moment
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#43 25th February 2009, 20:04

230lb springs.

are they using the PSF dampers?
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#44 25th February 2009, 20:17

always like the car and when the new bits are fitted it will be even better..
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#45 25th February 2009, 20:28

Love this car!!
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#46 25th February 2009, 22:15

thread whore.

get low fooooooolllll i have something you may need to after talks with your dad.

bouncy bouncy
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#47 26th February 2009, 09:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

thread whore.

get low fooooooolllll i have something you may need to after talks with your dad.

bouncy bouncy

Whats that mate? I'll speak to dad and ask him...

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Originally Posted by PSPDan

Love this car!!

Thanks Pal!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dboyvts

always like the car and when the new bits are fitted it will be even better..

Cheers pal, im hoping things will improve with the new bits and bobs!Same goes to yours! I need to check out your new updates soon actually. We'll have to meet up when im next 'up norf' @ GMC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

230lb springs.

are they using the PSF dampers?

Im either going for the 230 or 250lb AST springs mate, not sure which ones yet! And yeah pug sport inserts, oh and yes these are Lewis's old ones btw...

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam-dud

wow i think your car looks amazing.. a lot better than my west coast

at the moment

Cheers pal, so whats the plan for yours then matey?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

gunna be good tbh josh
if you need a hand in your week of madness let me know and if im about ill pop over and help

Yes that would be great mate! I think im going to need as much help as possible - will need to check the weather and possibly get a tent as well if the weathers shite which it no doubt will be!
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#48 26th February 2009, 18:19

It's going OK thanks Josh. The car is going in this Saturday for a week! Lot's of bits getting done.

I may follow in your footsteps with the coilovers. I've been looking for a suspension upgrade for some time. If you're getting adjustable top mounts for them, then no doubt camber will be adjsutable.
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#49 26th February 2009, 18:36

yeh i got a thread knocking bout somewhere lol would love to cvome the ring but cant afford it am afraid, but if you let me know when your back ill pop over
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#50 27th February 2009, 06:37

That setup looks well tasty Josh, and its got that bling factor too

As you can imagine Im dribbling as I like shiny stuff lol
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#51 2nd March 2009, 12:30

Toad - i'd imagine so, i could just ask around and find out i guess

Yeah Gav ill let you know when im back pal and pop over one evening!

Lol Rush, i've nearly collected all the bits i've been wanting now guys... I will update the thread as and when i get pictures
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#52 2nd March 2009, 14:25

If they are the AST ones Kam is selling, then yeah, I'd defo like to know please!
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#53 3rd March 2009, 09:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

If they are the AST ones Kam is selling, then yeah, I'd defo like to know please!

These are the ones im getting Toad

Also just sourced some pretty sweet brakes for my motor Pictures again to come...
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#54 3rd March 2009, 12:06

looking good JP
when do these arrive?
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#55 4th March 2009, 19:56

Can I come over and help a week before Germany please Mister Joshua?
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#56 5th March 2009, 01:22

Lushhh car mate.
Real stunner!
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#57 5th March 2009, 01:35

When are you going to have them fitted mate? Waiting to hear feedback on these as i havent come across anyone else on here with them, and im strugllin deciding between the group n billies or the extra £$£$ for these?
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#58 5th March 2009, 08:54

nice car
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#59 5th March 2009, 10:46

josh ill get dad to take it to mallory park at the PP event he can take it round track and give you some feedback
he can also tinker with bits that may need tweaking
sound ok?

#60 6th March 2009, 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by piggy123

looking good JP
when do these arrive?

Im still waiting for the springs to be made up by AST, as soon as they are ready ill let you know when to expect them!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin

Can I come over and help a week before Germany please Mister Joshua?

Of course Colin the more help the better! There's loads of people willing to help so we'll have it done in 2 days or so i reckon

Quote:

Originally Posted by 106GtiJK

Lushhh car mate.
Real stunner!

Thanks mate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTSTomE

When are you going to have them fitted mate? Waiting to hear feedback on these as i havent come across anyone else on here with them, and im strugllin deciding between the group n billies or the extra £$£$ for these?

I wont be fitting them for a while mate, im in Sydney untill June at least and im not going to be back untill 1st august unless things change between now and then! So i'd just go for the Group N's - I cant fault them, and coupled with the faulkners they are awesome!

Quote:

Originally Posted by piggy123

josh ill get dad to take it to mallory park at the PP event

he can take it round track and give you some feedback
he can also tinker with bits that may need tweaking

sound ok?

Yeah sounds good Bro, that means you need to pull your finger out and get everything fitted

Then all we need to tinker with is caster and camber and bits and bobs like that!

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#61 20th March 2009, 13:04

Ok guys a few new parts...

Firstly another picture of the sexual AST's!

A black carpet - from Ste! How long it will stay in my car is another question...

Carbon Mirror caps should add a nice touch

And finally some Group N Gravel Billie rear dampers - Apparently they are stiff as fooook

More to come...
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#62 20th March 2009, 13:21

JP

I think I love you!

Nice to see some decent thought put into a car

I very much like it
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#63 20th March 2009, 13:36

i think your car is amense dude keep up the work.
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#64 20th March 2009, 17:47

as far as im aware you should be getting an update from me in the VERY near future
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#65 20th March 2009, 19:04

Nice, fair one mate
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#66 20th March 2009, 19:48

looking great josh

as if the suspension wasn't already good, it just got better

cant wait to see it out track again
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#67 20th March 2009, 22:45

love it josh looks the tits mate
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#68 21st March 2009, 02:06

Don't you already have grp N rear dampers? Or are there different versions? AST's looks so nice...

Oi! I was getting CF mirror caps. Hehe.
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#69 21st March 2009, 02:31

nice JP

more pics have been sent
get them up
more work to be done next week
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#70 21st March 2009, 11:17

looking good jp

carpet is ghey though
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#71 21st March 2009, 12:28

Awesome stuff, The AST's look like good kit.
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#72 21st March 2009, 13:42

Great car and great collection of parts josh

Might just have to be in Germany at same time lol
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#73 22nd March 2009, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeroybrown

JP

I think I love you!

Nice to see some decent thought put into a car

I very much like it

Thanks mate! Its tough thinking things ahead while not evening seeing the car but i think im getting there!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

as far as im aware you should be getting an update from me in the VERY near future

Oooo Very nice I cant wait

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

looking great josh

as if the suspension wasn't already good, it just got better

cant wait to see it out track again

Cheers mate, the old suspension was very very good, but i always wanted to give coilovers a go and it would be rude not to treat the rear to an upgrade at the same time hey!

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

love it josh looks the tits mate

Thanks mate - did you see it in the flesh yesterday (Sat) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Don't you already have grp N rear dampers? Or are there different versions? AST's looks so nice...

Oi! I was getting CF mirror caps. Hehe.

I had the group n fronts with the B8 rears mate! You can get the group n billie rears, then the next step up after those is the group n Gravel ones which i've got! Looks like i beat you to those carbon mirror caps then matey

Cheers Alex & Rushy - Yeah the AST's have had a great reviews from what ive read...

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

Great car and great collection of parts josh

Might just have to be in Germany at same time lol

Thanks mate, if you want to join us on our Ring trip just pop your head into the West Mids section, all the info you need is in a sticky at the top of the section! Any Questions PM me!

Quote:

Originally Posted by piggy123

nice JP

more pics have been sent
get them up
more work to be done next week

Good work Sam - I've heard the rear dampers were so bloody hard they were a bastard to fit?! Lol!

And here's a few extra pics Sam's just sent me...

Starting to strip the rear... (Work in progress)

Rear Gravel group N billies have been fitted

Another pic of the AST's (Stollen from Lewis)

And the front brakes have had an upgrade as well....

More pics to come...
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#74 22nd March 2009, 00:30

Looks awesome dude, some serious money and thought going into her now
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#75 22nd March 2009, 00:31

them coilies and teh 4 pots looks sexuall
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#76 22nd March 2009, 08:38

those AST's look immense!
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#77 22nd March 2009, 09:01

I want ASTs

Just cannae afford at the mo
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#78 22nd March 2009, 10:42

New parts look awesome.

Im loving the fact your in Oz and your getting all this work done for you.

When are you going to the ring?
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#79 22nd March 2009, 22:47

Ah, I see. So are you using those rear dampers with stock torsion bars? If so, is it OK?

Damn, you did beat me too those mirror caps! Argg...

I think I'm going to be getting me a pair of those AST's rather sharpish! Most impressed.

I can't believe you are finally stripping the Mango! Good times.

#80 23rd March 2009, 13:23

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Originally Posted by smiith

Looks awesome dude, some serious money and thought going into her now

Cheers mate, im hoping i will see a nice improvement performance wise

Quote:

Originally Posted by PETE-VTR

them coilies and teh 4 pots looks sexuall

Thanks mate, again hoping they should give me some extra traction, it was great before but there's always room for improvement i guess!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

those AST's look immense!

Progress it looking good on yours, just had a flash back from that first meet when i first started chatting to you, Random...

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo180

I want ASTs

Just cannae afford at the mo

Yours has had enough treatment this year already hasnt it?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryhornvtr

New parts look awesome.

Im loving the fact your in Oz and your getting all this work done for you.

When are you going to the ring?

Haha its pretty good, annoying at the same time tho as i want to do the work myself really - but im so greatful Sam and Dad are helping me out!

Going on the 21st - 24th August, then im coming back out to Oz for as long as they let me stay here!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Ah, I see. So are you using those rear dampers with stock torsion bars? If so, is it OK?

Damn, you did beat me too those mirror caps! Argg...

I think I'm going to be getting me a pair of those AST's rather sharpish!

Most impressed.

I can't believe you are finally stripping the Mango! Good times.

No im going larger torsion bars mate, all takes time

So your copying me not just on the carbon mirror caps but now the AST's as well Lol

Good times indeed - its going full out track (ish) now!

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#81 23rd March 2009, 13:29

that ish needs to be gone josh
full track tbh

i will not allow you to fit carpet!!
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#82 23rd March 2009, 13:31

Josh/toad.... carbon mirror caps you say?

Josh - they the 266mm 4pots that were on an xsi until recently?
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#83 23rd March 2009, 13:36

270mm Ry yeah! Oh bugger, you beat us both to it! Any close ups?

Alex - I think i'll always have a carpet, ill just cut it up or get a lightweight one like Matt has in his 205! The inside of the car WILL be resprayed WHEN the cage goes in over next winter

#84 23rd March 2009, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

270mm Ry yeah! Oh bugger, you beat us both to it! Any close ups?

Alex - I think i'll always have a carpet, ill just cut it up or get a lightweight one like Matt has in his 205! The inside of the car WILL be resprayed WHEN the cage goes in over next winter

Ill take my camera to alexs if i remember today and try and get close ups.

So you can run small wheels with the brakes yo!

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#85 23rd March 2009, 13:55

Thought you had to get bigger torsion bars. I just can't believe how darn expensive they are!

Ryan, I don't see CF mirror caps.
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#86 23rd March 2009, 16:35

hmmm i may let you off if its just a tiny bit of carpet
but persoanlly i see no point lol (as with most of the interior lol)

ryan any excuse to be a whore
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#87 23rd March 2009, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Ryan, I don't see CF mirror caps.

Lucky I took some more pics of them today then
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#88 23rd March 2009, 22:21

Close ups as asked josh, they need a polish but i cant be fucked.
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#89 24th March 2009, 00:18

Ah, very nice.

For the VTS they only cover the top half, I see... Look spont on.
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#90 24th March 2009, 00:35

alex fitted them. doesnt bother me either way, just thought as you two ladies were arguing over who was copying whos shoppinglist id annoy
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#91 24th March 2009, 02:30

lovely motor mate
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#92 24th March 2009, 08:04

very nice ryan Toad thats the exact reason i bought 106 mirrors, for more carbon
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#93 24th March 2009, 10:35

Nice indeeed..
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#94 24th March 2009, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

very nice ryan Toad thats the exact reason i bought 106 mirrors, for more carbon

You nutter! lol.
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#95 24th March 2009, 15:18

Ha ha gota be done mr Toad
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#96 25th March 2009, 10:00

Lol at the above! Thanks for the pic's Ry, they look great! Dad's currently sorting me some new wheel bearings while the hunt for some springs and top mounts from AST is well on the way!

As soon as i get the springs and top mounts the suspension will be built up and put back on, also the BTB can then be fitted as well but thats a few weeks or so away yet! Hoping for an update very soon on the seat department so keep your eyes peeled
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#97 25th March 2009, 10:10

making good progress atm dude I was talking with Sam and I think I'm buying your current strut legs to use to build my new coilovers on.

last time I seen your car it looked like shrek aswell lol under the mammoth car cover.

mmm lightweight seats this time ey?? so iv heard anyways lol

#98 25th March 2009, 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Lol at the above! Thanks for the pic's Ry, they look great! Dad's currently sorting me some new wheel bearings while the hunt for some springs and top mounts from AST is well on the way!

As soon as i get the springs and top mounts the suspension will be built up and put back on, also the BTB can then be fitted as well but thats a few weeks or so away yet! Hoping for an update very soon on the seat department so keep your eyes peeled

You think new wheel bearings are good idea for me, even though mine are OK? I'm going for new droplinks for sure anyway.

#99 26th March 2009, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

making good progress atm dude

I was talking with Sam and I think I'm buying your current strut legs to use to build my new coilovers on.

last time I seen your car it looked like shrek aswell lol under the mammoth car cover.

mmm lightweight seats this time ey?? so iv heard anyways lol

Ah yeah that cover, its hopefully doing a good job protecting the motor while im away

Thats fine to use my struts pal as you know! Lightweight seats indeed, ive hopefully got an update coming for you guys on that front shortly...

Toad - yes i would if i was you mate, you might as well while you have the struts off - make sure you measure them very precisely tho to make sure you get the right ones!

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#100 26th March 2009, 11:00

josh
get the seats now you pleb
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#101 26th March 2009, 11:04

Thanks JP. Surely my chassis # will get me the right part from Pug...
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#102 26th March 2009, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

josh
get the seats now you pleb

Its just the suppliers mate, its completely out of 'our' hands!

Toad - ah yes maybe for yours, but mines a westcoast with some mark 1 parts and some mark 2 parts! Also are you going to be using your struts with the ast's? or a replacement set - they might not be the same bearing size as your currently struts!
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#103 26th March 2009, 11:59

I was thinking my current ones would be fine, ya? Or do you know something I don't?
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#104 31st March 2009, 12:22

Yeah your current struts should be fine Toad mate!

Right another update for you - Firstly a VERY special mention to DannyGti for going to collect these for me

I think you'll agree they look awesome - I cant wait to try them out!!
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#105 31st March 2009, 12:26

good lad!!

i want my seat now
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#106 31st March 2009, 12:41

Blimey, about time!

They look very high quality. Nice to see things being done properly.
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#107 31st March 2009, 17:06

Loving this progress Josh!

Those Coilover's rock my cock..

Will keep an eye on any future developments..
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#108 31st March 2009, 17:08

they look awsome!!

should hold you in better than the gti leather thats for sure
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#109 31st March 2009, 17:12

nice......
they are very very nice seats i must admit. very light aswell..
the quality is very high and i would reccomend using cobra seats to anyone.
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#110 31st March 2009, 17:14

1/4/09 ??? lol is that cos your in australia?

those seats will look great mate!!!
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#111 31st March 2009, 18:53

lol scum bag
my seat are better ....... NOT
P.S. im stealing these for a week to see what they feel like when the side mounts arrive

cheers for winning the inlet JP
will get some more work done for you next week and get the seats fitted!!

are you getting the interior sprayed or getting a cage?
if not then i can crack on
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#112 31st March 2009, 22:29

lol very nice mate im in search for some cobra imola s's. How much they set you back? Saw the title and thought bloody hell is that the date haha then i realised your ahead of time
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#113 31st March 2009, 23:02

mmmmmm kevlar goodies happy days man these will be a nice edition to the mango beast

#114 1st April 2009, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

good lad!!

i want my seat now

Get it ordered soon because these took ages to arrive through no fault of anyone but Cobra!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Blimey, about time!

They look very high quality. Nice to see things being done properly.

It is about time tbh... They do look real nice dont they

What Seats do you have mate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaRiO89

Loving this progress Josh!

Those Coilover's rock my cock..

Will keep an eye on any future developments..

Cheers James! The coilovers are now the focus, need to get them finished and then crack on with fitting everything once im home!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

they look awsome!!

should hold you in better than the gti leather thats for sure

Yeah they should, just a bit better

Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

nice......
they are very very nice seats i must admit. very light aswell..
the quality is very high and i would reccomend using cobra seats to anyone.

HUGE thanks for going to collect them mate, cant thank you enough!

They do look very very nice and i cant wait for you to be sitting next to me half way round the Nurburgring in the seats this summer (My winter Lol)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesyFX

1/4/09 ??? lol is that cos your in australia?

those seats will look great mate!!!

Yes mate thats why... Cheers!

Quote:

Originally Posted by piggy123

lol scum bag

my seat are better ....... NOT
P.S. im stealing these for a week to see what they feel like when the side mounts arrive

cheers for winning the inlet JP

will get some more work done for you next week and get the seats fitted!!

are you getting the interior sprayed or getting a cage?
if not then i can crack on

Cheers Sam you sneaky git - i didnt even see the white writing untill i re-read it at work on my mates iphone!

Your not borrowing them, no way

If i do get a cage / spraying interior it will be after the nurburgring anyway, so crack on with fitting now bud!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

lol very nice mate im in search for some cobra imola s's. How much they set you back? Saw the title and thought bloody hell is that the date haha then i realised your ahead of time

The Kevlar ones like mine are 894quid for the pair + Subframes + I had the extra hard wearing pads added where the wear and tear normally occurs so cost me just over that!You can see / read more here

http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p1...duct_info.html

Imola S's arent bad either, i've sat in Dannys and they hold you in very well as well...

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

mmmmmm kevlar goodies

happy days man these will be a nice edition to the mango beast

Im hoping mate, should look good once its caged and all sprayed up! But thats a while off yet!!

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#115 1st April 2009, 11:29

lovely looking car mate - great choice in wheels
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#116 1st April 2009, 11:32

josh
sam invited me to help with the stripping next week lol

i see very little interior left for josh lol
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#117 1st April 2009, 12:42

alex make sure you remove his tints lol
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#118 1st April 2009, 12:47

Hard core strippage alex, Single skin everything

Seats looking nice josh, you have a big pile of parts now aye.
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#119 1st April 2009, 13:01

lee im tempted to lol

dean im not sure josh would apprecitate my level of stripping lol
id love to get madon it though
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#120 2nd April 2009, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by olly_vts

lovely looking car mate - great choice in wheels

Great choice indeed, cant beat Pro race 1.2's

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

josh
sam invited me to help with the stripping next week lol

i see very little interior left for josh lol

Oh shoot **Rings dad to tell him to put a lock on that cover**, be careful whatever you do you animal!

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

alex make sure you remove his tints lol

No No No!! I actualy want darker ones to keep it stealth

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxmad88

Hard core strippage alex, Single skin everything

Seats looking nice josh, you have a big pile of parts now aye.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

lee im tempted to lol

dean im not sure josh would apprecitate my level of stripping lol
id love to get madon it though

Lol, Sam knows what you can and cant do Alex I appreciate the help as you know mate!
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#121 2nd April 2009, 11:06

Very nice looking seats Josh.

Hopefully when I get a good job again I will be building a track car.
So expect some contact from me when I got some funds!

ALEX!! STRIP EVERYTHING YOU CAN SEE!
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#122 2nd April 2009, 11:24

Seats look mate, good stuff

#123 2nd April 2009, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Oh shoot **Rings dad to tell him to put a lock on that cover**, be careful whatever you do you animal!

Lol, Sam knows what you can and cant do Alex

I appreciate the help as you know mate!

ill be gentle
its only my cars i just rip stuff out
and ill leave whatever sam tells me to leave man i know you still want semi comfy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skorpion

Very nice looking seats Josh.

Hopefully when I get a good job again I will be building a track car.
So expect some contact from me when I got some funds!

ALEX!! STRIP EVERYTHING YOU CAN SEE!

rich in a track car
wonder what made him want something that drives well lol

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#124 17th April 2009, 15:33

Sniff Sniff, i smell updates for you people soon...

Rich - dont tempt him i know what he's like!!
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#125 17th April 2009, 15:55

More updates, yay

Hurry up...

Love this car
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#126 17th April 2009, 16:29

great car jp hurry up with the updates
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#127 17th April 2009, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Rich - dont tempt him i know what he's like!!

i have my angle grider all prepped with a new disc ready josh
i will be removing everything i can see tbh
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#128 18th April 2009, 00:58

bastard Alex!!! I know Sams invited you over, my car's braced...

Some bits have arrived im just waiting for them to be collected and pics sent across
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#129 7th May 2009, 13:25

Couple of other pictures Sams just sent me over...

New wheel bearings

Polyrace bushes all round...

Black Carpet fitted

Should have updates on new brakes and my faulkner springs soon...
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#130 7th May 2009, 22:59

More good stuff Josh, bet you cant wait to get back to it.
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#131 7th May 2009, 23:23

mint!!!

some nice bits there mate. hopefullly all come together soon.
this trip will be immense
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#132 8th May 2009, 08:50

Ooo, jubbly. I've gotta get on the blower to Kam about some of those.
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#133 10th May 2009, 12:36

Just need those brakes to arrive asap now ive paid Danny then i'll have near enough everything ready for project "put-my-car-back-together-in-a-week" once im home Lol

Rush - Damn right, ill be back in 2 and a half months or so...
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#134 10th May 2009, 23:00

looking top quality mate. cant believe so much progress can be done from half way round the world lol
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#135 11th May 2009, 18:10

Nice josh, is it me or is your steering wheel chopped lol?
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#136 2nd June 2009, 15:02

Nah it just looks like that because of my steering wheel lock!

Tom - it is pretty crazy when you think about it like that... None of it could be done without a few very good, willing-to-help-out lads in the Midlands + My Bro and Dad for running around all over the country collecting stuff, dropping things off, picking things up etc etc for me!

More pics...

Got some "Proper" springs for my damper / Coilover set up, 250lb Faulkner ones

New brakes have also arrived..

My Sidemounts also arrived from my mate (Mentioning no names, who again has helped me out loads!)

Bolt in Subframes are currently being made up as a temp before i weld in some bars whenever a cage goes in as well! Should look something like this..

Again thanks to Sam for sending the pics over... Hope you like!
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#137 2nd June 2009, 15:06

Josh how much the subframes costing you? I really need a drivers one.

Looking good mate, lots of parts to fit lol, will it be done in the 'go crazy build week'?lol

#138 3rd June 2009, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo

Josh how much the subframes costing you? I really need a drivers one.

Looking good mate, lots of parts to fit lol, will it be done in the 'go crazy build week'?lol

Most of the bits and bobs will be done by dad and sam over the next few weeks before im back!Now theyve finally got everything together, i just need to have my dampers threaded slightly more (were already extended but not by enough) and then i think everything can be fitted, so ill just be left with a few bits and bobs and ill start tidying up the chassis / prep for the nurburgring

The subframes were 90quid for the pair mate from Matt Newton.

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#139 3rd June 2009, 10:36

Josh baby, is one going to be at FCS~?
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#140 3rd June 2009, 10:41

i doubt it leeroy

looking good josh
that subframes pretty trick nice and low lol
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#141 3rd June 2009, 22:06

Sweet Joshy!!

250lbs? Those are some serious springs!

m1155's! I like it, I like it a lot.
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#142 3rd June 2009, 22:32

Ahh thats not too bad then lol, I might have to find out a contact number/email address of you for him
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#143 4th June 2009, 06:59

A good selection of upgrades dude. To think you couldnt really do much more was so far off. Hope the AST's are all their cracked up to be.

Just shows a project is never finished hey Josh (familiar words)
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#144 6th June 2009, 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Sweet Joshy!!

250lbs? Those are some serious springs!

m1155's! I like it, I like it a lot.

They should be nice matched up with some larger Torsion bars and the proper group n tarmac rear dampers on the rear

Leeroy - Nah im not back untill August 1st so doubt it will make it to any shows this summer, hopefully ill fit in a track day before the ring tho

So true Rush - but i think you wouldnt be far off to say the new stuff is more than good enough to not be upgraded in the future! (My bank account hopes so anyway!)
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#145 7th June 2009, 15:36

lols JP when do i need to expect your TB's to arrive?
me and dad both go away on weds so no updates will happen for a week now

maybe a cheeky pic if they arrive before i leave
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#146 8th June 2009, 14:00

They should be arriving before you go!!

So fire a pic across before you go away if you get time mate!

Original list

A full BTB exhaust system - DONE (Needs fitting after MOT)
16 row oil cooler - Still need to order
Proper group n rear billies - DONE & FITTED
1.1 FD for my Gearbox - Not happening anymore
3inch TRS 4 point harnesses - DONE & FITTED
QEP lightened and balenced Flywheel - Not happening anymore
Stripped interior - DONE
Black Kevlar Suzuka bucket seats with subframes - DONE
Fit both upper group n engine mounts - Will leave untill after summer
Hi-spec 4 pot front brakes / disks / Mintex 1155 pads - DONE (Needs fitting)
New rear pads and disks - still need to order
At least 1 new R888 - DONE (Needs fitting)

Plus other things i've added since my original list:-

AST front suspension & Faulkner springs - DONE (Needs fitting)
Carbon Mirror caps - DONE
22mm Torsion Bars - DONE (Need fitting)
Polyrace Bushes all round - DONE (fronts are fitted, rears need fitting)
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#147 8th June 2009, 14:47

im catching up with you
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#148 9th June 2009, 08:36

Sheeshkebabs! That's a lot of progress... Good work. Would be kind of you if you told me about the torsion bars...
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#149 9th June 2009, 14:34

Get them off that guy in Leicester mate, off ebay - thats your best bet i think!

Looking at that list its not been a bad effort considering im over here and nothing was done / or even considered untill Jan...
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#150 2nd August 2009, 22:23

Ok guys massive update, just got home from the land of Oz, im only back for 4weeks,

Dad & Sam had been ploughing on fitting most of the stuff anyway - legends!!

I'll let the pics do the talking

Kevlar Suzuka / TRS 4 point harness / PROPER omp steering wheel

Passengers subframe awaiting delivery of second seat, should be here tomorrow!

Strippage, still work in progress & Black S1 carpet fitted

Proper BTB fitted

Rear wiper bung

Brand new Black Hi-spec 4pots / Mintex 1155 pads, grooved disks & braided lines

AST coilovers / Top mounts / Faulkner 250lb springs

Nice camber as well, about 1.5degrees

Brand new 16 Row oil cooler replacing the 13row i had in there before

Engine bay as it currently stands

Brand new pro race 1.2 for my spare & R888 & spare wheel strap

Also Proper Carbon Dial surround (not a sticker) to go on

Single fan soon to replace vts twin fan set up as well

& finally the car as she currently stands, its MOT'd, i just need to insure & tax it whenever the next nice day is & take her out for a nice blast

Cheers

Josh
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#151 2nd August 2009, 23:21

absolutely love it josh....im sooo jealous! cant wait to see her again!!
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#152 2nd August 2009, 23:25

good stuff mate

must feel good to get back in the driver seat even if it is a quick blast
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#153 2nd August 2009, 23:27

Its all rather pornographic i like

Saw it last weekend when me, alex and lee went over to see your dad and sam for an hour or so, looks quality

Are you still considering the change of bodies soon? me and rushy are looking at october for a possible mini group buy all being well
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#154 2nd August 2009, 23:29

BEen waiting for this. Bloody awesome updates man.
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#155 3rd August 2009, 01:08

Good work mate, carbon dial surround is WIN, i have one
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#156 3rd August 2009, 08:13

Some serious progess Josh.

Comments / opinions on the AST coilovers and m1155's?
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#157 4th August 2009, 14:56

Cheers for all the comments lads!

Toad - ASTs rock mate, they feel really good, bloody hard for road work tho Lol. The 1155's are awesome as well, no real issues with needing to warm them up before they start working either which im suprised at!

Yesterday i got it insured & Taxed

Then went and collected my second seat, modified the sidemount so i can have it on the lowest setting (still need to do the drivers side)

also got the R888 fitted to the spare 1.2...

More updates to come....
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#158 4th August 2009, 15:04

nice progress josh. How is it now you have a danny clayton map

love the car as always and cant wait to see it at the ring, any chance of a passenger ride?
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#159 4th August 2009, 15:12

shed

just bought a load of bits for mine to get it back on the road this year! will need you / your dad to do something on it early next year probs too...

any track days planned?
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#160 4th August 2009, 15:16

Excellent mate.

For the m1155's to kick in proper, they do need to be hot, but they are very useable on the road IMO. I don't have any issues with them TBH.
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#161 4th August 2009, 16:09

that looks great mate

and love the seats
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#162 7th August 2009, 10:51

Got a few more updates for you guys,

Replaced the breather hose that had cracked over the winter

Straightened the BTB so its sits nicely now

Removed stupied speaker cable & spare wheel cage

Also fitted my 22mm torsion bars, got the height right after the 3rd time of trying Lol

& finaly stocked up with these for the ring trip Lol
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#163 7th August 2009, 11:26

Fantastic! I'm thinking a comfy lid will be better than ear plugs, but hey, whatever

3rd time trying? You amature you!
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#164 7th August 2009, 12:09

All looks great! Any problems getting it through the mot with a harness buckle like that?
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#165 7th August 2009, 12:52

looks awesome mate, bout time you got that speaker cable out...

i cant wait now wooooooooooop
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#166 8th August 2009, 10:49

Mr N - Its only temp as my bro lost the buckle, ones on order dont worry

Lol Toad, I still wasnt happy with it when i seen it in the day light yesterday morning so ended up spending my Friday night lowering it another 10mm! Fitted these in the process...

So my cars almost ready for the ring, not bad considering ive only been back a week
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#167 8th August 2009, 11:30

Nice mate. Good progress!

I'm in such a rush, every moment I get free in the evenings, I've been off trying to sort bits!
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#168 8th August 2009, 13:34

mine will be ready! WOOOOOOT can i drive your car jp? you can drive mine
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#169 8th August 2009, 14:00

looking great

i'd say no to those ear plugs, used to use them when i was younger an shared a room with my snoring sis now i get no end of problems with my ears lol mind you its better than going deaf lol
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#170 8th August 2009, 14:06

nice car mate very nice, looks almost identical to what mine will look like strangely? pro-race .1.2s and carbon kevlar buckets seats thouh mine will be staying a 1.4 with a lill help from an xsi and a turbo shouldnt be to far be-hind you lol lovely car though mate real nice
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#171 8th August 2009, 14:15

Looks very good there

#172 12th August 2009, 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by miamibluebaby

nice car mate very nice, looks almost identical to what mine will look like strangely? pro-race .1.2s and carbon kevlar buckets seats thouh mine will be staying a 1.4 with a lill help from an xsi and a turbo shouldnt be to far be-hind you lol lovely car though mate real nice

Thats like saying it looks the same but its still only got gay 8v's

Nah, Xsi's rock so i'll let you off

Cheers Mark, Kev - Ill have a think about it!

Toad - Tell me about it, got back from Wales yesterday, Going Ibiza tomorrow & get back Tuesday which gives me today and next weds to get my car 100% ready!!

Cheers for the advice there Craig, i think ill be ok just to wear them to the ring, better than going deaf Lol

Went for a long weekend to wales / Road Trip @ the weekend,

Cleaned her before I went...

And a few other select pics of the trip!

I like this one as well, shows the vibrations / how solid the car is now Lol

Must say this is the first time i've given it some proper beans since the 22mm rear torsion bars went in, and it just handles stupiedly well for a french tin, Love it

Video to come....

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#173 12th August 2009, 11:19

Looking good mate, im sorry i couldnt make it in the end, my tracking needs doing so no point going on a long trip with how it is atm, plus a feeling my mot has run out lol
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#174 12th August 2009, 11:29

Love it like a fat kid loves cake.

You got a money tree in your back garden? lol
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#175 12th August 2009, 11:49

Looking proper hardcore now boy!

Glad everything has come together so well

How is driving with buckets then?
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#176 12th August 2009, 13:40

Becoming nothing short of awesome. Real inspiration!
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#177 12th August 2009, 18:16

Heres the video as well lads
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#178 12th August 2009, 23:41

IBIZA? You don't like to hang around for long do ya? Ha! have a wicked time...

Video is cool. I bet you're loving those 22mm rear TBs. Are you running the grp A mounts? Funny pic
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#179 12th August 2009, 23:49

Nice! I need that sound in my life
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#180 13th August 2009, 00:00

love it
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#181 13th August 2009, 01:16

Sounds naughty in that video and looks great too josh! Good work

#182 20th August 2009, 14:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

IBIZA? You don't like to hang around for long do ya? Ha! have a wicked time...

Video is cool. I bet you're loving those 22mm rear TBs. Are you running the grp A mounts? Funny pic

Yeah the 22mm Bars are awesome mate!!

Only running the lower group A, I have the 2 top engine Group N mounts that im yet to fit

Lewis - yours will sound naughtier

!!

Just a couple of other pics

TRS 5th point for the drivers harness

Also my fancy new TRS 3point spare wheel holder

& Carbon Mirror caps

Thats all for now guys, were leaving tonight for the ring

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#183 20th August 2009, 14:50

very nice mate, does sound well , finally got mine today xsi 8v power all the way lol i do love this car very nice keep it up have a good trip over, need to get an epic ring video to me thinks, bring on the trumpets over the winter i reckon
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#184 29th August 2009, 13:25

Few pics from the ring...

Car ran faultlessly all weekend, apart from the brake vacume pipe coming off one lap which left me with bugger all brakes, oh well

Im now back out in Australia so updates will be far and few between, but the car will be at Trax on the Shedmotorsport stand so be sure to pop by and say hi to my dad/Bro
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#185 29th August 2009, 13:31

some good pics mate, i really wana go next year
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#186 29th August 2009, 13:33

looks good m8
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#187 29th August 2009, 13:36

As said on Shed, great pics, and I especially like the last one.

Come back and see us all sooon!
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#188 29th August 2009, 15:44

Thanks guys, i will be back at christmas & new year Toad briefly

I've written out a full spec in my bored / Jet lagged state

Engine:-
1.6 16v J4 VTS Engine
Cat Cam 708 cams
High compression Wossner Pistons
Jenvey SF throttle boddies with custom curved trumpets & Airbox
Pro Comp carbon fiber air feed for airbox
Larger injectors
Pug Sport Baffled sump
BTB 4-1 Manifold
BTB 2.5 inch exhaust system
16row Mocal oil cooler with thermostatic sandwich plate
KMS ECU standalone management system with wideband Lambda & display
Fully rebuilt VTS Gearbox with Quaife LSD
Group N engine mounts

Chassis:-
Front AST Coilover conversion with Pug Sport Tarmac front dampers & 250lb Faulkner springs
Caster & Camber adjustable AST solid top mounts with top mount strengthening plates
Front Group N rear wishbone bushes
Front Powerflex ARB bushes
Front Polyrace wishbone bushes
Custom front upper strut brace
OMP Lower strut brace
Hi-Spec 4 pot front brakes with Mintex 1155 pads, grooved disks & braided lines
VTS Rear Disk beam conversion with braided rear lines
Tarmac Pugsport Bilstein rear dampers
Rear beam Polyrace bushes
24mm Rear ARB
22mm Pugsport Rear Torsion Bars

Interior:-
Kevlar Cobra Suzuka bucket seats with custom seat rails & sidemounts
TRS 5 point 3 inch Driver Harness, TRS 4 point 3 inch passenger harness
OMP dished Corsica steering wheel
S1 106 Black Carpet
Stripped out
Carbon Door cards & S2 106 door bins
Pro Race 1.2 Spare wheel wrapped with an R888 and secured with a 3 point TRS spare wheel strap

Exterior:-
Team Dynamic 15inch Pro Race 1.2s wrapped in R888s
Standard bodywork
Carbon Mirror caps
Smoked indicator repeaters
Smoked Rear lights
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#189 29th August 2009, 15:52

What a spec! love this car mate it looks right at home at the ring
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#190 29th August 2009, 15:57

Amazing spec that, must be such a toy!
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#191 29th August 2009, 16:08

one of my fav cars on the site. what gearbox are you running?
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#192 29th August 2009, 20:17

Love your car Josh.

Glad the car made it back from the Ring in one piece though.
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#193 30th August 2009, 10:20

real nice spec mate

u forgot to mention oil catch tank and lowers omp brace i think
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#194 31st August 2009, 15:38

Edited spec to add those couple of bits i've missed.

Thanks lads, I must say it really did feel imense this year at the ring, I always have something to moan about, but this year I cant say I have anything, theres a few bits and bobs i'll do to improve it again, but over all I am very pleased where the car is at the moment.

I should have a video soon'ish of a full lap, BTG of 9:04 im reliably informed, i'll get it up as soon as i get it
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#195 31st August 2009, 15:44

This car really looks at home at the Ring ever time I see it.

Looks like that little girl in the pink shat her pants in the pic above lol.
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#196 31st August 2009, 21:37

Tidy spec that... Early next year, i aspire to come close to it!

How do you find the VTS box on the bodies, I have a quaife'd s box, Hoping its going to be ok!
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#197 31st August 2009, 22:24

Oh nice, looking forward to seeing the vid!
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#198 1st September 2009, 21:44

What a sexy looking beast of a car! love the mango saxos nice work matey
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#199 1st September 2009, 21:47

wicked colour mate wish mine was that colour

#200 2nd September 2009, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by sax-oli

Tidy spec that... Early next year, i aspire to come close to it!

How do you find the VTS box on the bodies, I have a quaife'd s box, Hoping its going to be ok!

Yeah its fine matey, perfect for the ring, if maybe just a tad too long. Im going to go for a 1.4xsi FD in my box for next year and thats going to be close to hitting the 7,800rpm limit in 5th on a couple parts of the track, but i'll up the limit to 8,500rpm once i get solid grind cams, so will have more power but a higher limit so im hoping the 1.4xsi FD will be just about OK for the ring. It will be perfect for all tracks in the UK thats for sure.

Mangos do rock its official

Toad - ill get it up as soon as i get it pal!

Rush - Cheers mate, it felt very good round there this summer, im pretty sure the people that passengered with me will agree, im very happy with the feel of the car at the moment

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#201 2nd September 2009, 15:47

Josh, my S1 box would top out at 130mph @ 7800rpm with 195/50/15 r888's. You'll be fine with an XSi box!
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#202 3rd September 2009, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Josh, my S1 box would top out at 130mph @ 7800rpm with 195/50/15 r888's. You'll be fine with an XSi box!

I was doing nearly 130 in a couple of places on the track Lol, so yeah xsi box should just about be Ok Lol
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#203 3rd September 2009, 14:06

The arse starts to nip up at that speed don't it!
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#204 3rd September 2009, 16:16

What cams you going for next year mate? What power you running at with the 708's?
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#205 17th September 2009, 14:19

When i had it mapped @ GMC there rollers quoted 141 @ the wheels, however i'd say thats generous, when I organised a big RR day at Northampton motorsport it was running a few extra bhp @ the wheels compared to the other cammed cars (without TBs), however TB's will mainly make the mid range much better, and in general make it much better to drive on the road & track.

I'll be running the same engine set up next year, nothing will be changing, im really happy with the engine as it currently stands mate
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#206 18th September 2009, 15:57

Can i have it? PLEASE?!
I love this car so much

Good work mate
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#207 24th September 2009, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobertmate

Can i have it? PLEASE?!
I love this car so much

Good work mate

Lol, Thanks mate

This is the only pic I have from Trax... I wasnt there but my dad drove the car down for me, it was on the Shed Motorsport stand.

If anyone else took any pics of my car at Trax can you please post them or PM them to me, cheeers
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#208 11th October 2009, 04:06

I ended up buying a couple of hi-res pics from the Nurburgring, got the first one e-mailed this weekend, just waiting for the other one to come through
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#209 11th October 2009, 18:21

Looks like a shot straight out of Gran Turismo!
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#210 11th October 2009, 18:34

Ring picture looks amazing!!

How many laps of the ring have you done now? Looks like an epic place to go for a car nut, focusing on taking mine there next year after uni!! Taking it on the ring looks a daunting thing, can imagine id spend my time just letting everyone through! Just got to sort a few bits first.
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#211 12th October 2009, 12:42

Its a very scary place to go at first, i broke my track virginity on the ring, and was pretty shocking to begin with as expected i guess! Main problem is because unless your doing under 10min laps everything will just keep flying past and you feel like your just getting out of everyones way constantly

But once your below 10mins you'll be keeping up with 'most' things round there & over taking others when your down to 9mins or under

I've done about 30 laps now over the past 3 years, and really enjoy it now i know the track reasonably well

Heres the other professional pic I got...
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#212 12th October 2009, 13:27

^ ^ Mental picture with the biker in it too!!

Do you pick up the speed/corners/braking points of the 'ring' fairly quickly? What sort of times you going round the ring? The most daunting part for me really, thinking about going ot the ring is the braking points, and the costs involved with coming off (not really worried about the car, just the barriers/coolant/oil leak etc.)
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#213 12th October 2009, 16:54

Glad you chose to get that last pic done mate, it's definitely my fav!

#214 13th October 2009, 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

^ ^ Mental picture with the biker in it too!!

Do you pick up the speed/corners/braking points of the 'ring' fairly quickly? What sort of times you going round the ring? The most daunting part for me really, thinking about going ot the ring is the braking points, and the costs involved with coming off (not really worried about the car, just the barriers/coolant/oil leak etc.)

On the majority of corners there is a white mark on the "turn in" point, tbh from what i've read you need around 50 laps to know the track reasonably well....and another 50 laps to be doing some decent times!Its just far too long to learn it at once, by about 10 laps you'll know the first 3mins, 20 laps second 3mins, 30 laps third 3mins of the lap. Then a further 20 laps to string the whole lap together. Theres also ALOT of blind crests and turn in is often before the blind crest.

Its not going to be the most challenging track in the world without being hard

Im doing it in around 9mins flat bridge to gantry. I'll hopefully have a full lap video coming from my mate soon, according to form it was a 9:04 BTG.

Dave - I knew you'd like that picture

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#215 13th October 2009, 13:19

[/QUOTE]

This picture is really good. Hopefuly one day i will make it there
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#216 16th October 2009, 13:27

For people that are friends with me on facebook, here's a video of a 9min lap round the ring in my saxo...

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/vi...v=176614831135
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#217 16th October 2009, 14:00

Damn work firewall!

Will have a butchers later on mate.
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#218 16th October 2009, 14:09

Can't view on phone is that by steve
lazy bastard putting them up this late tbh lol!
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#219 16th October 2009, 15:38

Nice video mate. love the noise makes me wish i could afford the insurance on a s never mind the money to have trumpets and insure it.
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#220 16th October 2009, 19:01

Nice vid Josh!!!
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#221 17th October 2009, 12:17

Alex - yeah!

Cheers lads When i get the file ill upload it so everyone can watch...
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#222 17th October 2009, 12:22

looking good as always josh
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#223 17th October 2009, 20:49

love this car josh, its my fav car on the site,this is wot a track car should be like imo, love it, how much are the 888 a corner nowdays?
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#224 17th October 2009, 21:16

one of the best examples on here. great work.
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#225 18th October 2009, 00:19

really nice car mate you have put a lot of time into it good work.
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#226 19th October 2009, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

looking good as always josh

Thanks matey, you gonna come the ring with us next August?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastroadkid69

love this car josh, its my fav car on the site,this is wot a track car should be like imo, love it, how much are the 888 a corner nowdays?

Appreciate the comments mate, im not sure its the best on the site tho! R888's are about 80quid a corner now pal

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedyvtr

one of the best examples on here. great work.

Cheers pal!

Quote:

Originally Posted by beztuba

really nice car mate you have put a lot of time into it good work.

You can say that again, i hate to think how many man hours this car has taken to build and up keep... and its only done 8k in the last 4 years Lol
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#227 22nd October 2009, 14:02

Ring video, BTG 9:04....
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#228 22nd October 2009, 14:25

Mango has really grown on me

Love this!
Good work

Regards Bobby
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#229 26th October 2009, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobertmate

Mango has really grown on me

Love this!
Good work

Regards Bobby

Only just seen this, cheers bobby! Mango rocks
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#230 26th October 2009, 13:05

Man just watched the Video...........your an awesome driver! After watching that and seeing Toads videos i want Throttle Bodies lol

Awesome car!
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#231 26th October 2009, 13:21

awsome video mate
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#232 26th October 2009, 14:49

Awesome video - just spurs me on to get mine done so can hit the tracks next year!!!
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#233 28th October 2009, 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by J222JRA

Man just watched the Video...........your an awesome driver! After watching that and seeing Toads videos i want Throttle Bodies lol

Awesome car!

Thanks bud, i think its more to do with the set up of the car, i feel the suspension / chassis (apart from cage) is now really well set up, it feels excellent to drive on track and the grip is very good

Boddies do rock, I miss hearing them!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

Awesome video - just spurs me on to get mine done so can hit the tracks next year!!!

Indeed mate, most important imo is getting the suspension set up nicely

Duv - Cheers pal!
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#234 28th October 2009, 11:14

josh. got a burning question (not about springs this time, as on shed lol). whats the suzuka like as a seat? im really tempted by one, but dont know if i should save a couple of ££ and get an imola. whats it like getting in and out? practicality? the pics you have on page 8 tempt me even more.any help is appreciated PM me if you dont want to clog up the thread lol.
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#235 28th October 2009, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Indeed mate, most important imo is getting the suspension set up nicely

I'm working on it !! Not going too hardcore with it though, but should handle nicely when it's all together!!
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#236 31st October 2009, 12:14

love the video of the car at the ring, you can peddle a car mate, fair play.
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#237 31st October 2009, 12:24

Will check the video out when Im home Josh. Sounds like it may be interesting.

#238 2nd November 2009, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashleyp

josh. got a burning question (not about springs this time, as on shed lol). whats the suzuka like as a seat? im really tempted by one, but dont know if i should save a couple of ££ and get an imola. whats it like getting in and out? practicality? the pics you have on page 8 tempt me even more.any help is appreciated

PM me if you dont want to clog up the thread lol.

The suzuka seats are excellent mate, very supportive & comfy, had no problems driving all the way back from the ring with only a couple of 10min petrol / food stops! Its not too bad getting in an out, it would piss me off doing it everyday, but im getting old now lol!

Raunchz - do it mate

Rush did you manage to watch it?

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#239 2nd November 2009, 12:35

Love the smooth driving style! Awesome. Looks like your suspension setup is well sorted.

Hope everything out in Aus is going well
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#240 3rd November 2009, 21:34

pretty slow around the track....... jokes mate lol.
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#241 3rd November 2009, 21:42

Awesome vid mate, you look very quick
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#242 5th November 2009, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Rush did you manage to watch it?

Just seen it now. Car look to be going well. You can tell your comfortable with the track now too. Awesome.

Ah, and enjoy your b'day dude.

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#243 8th November 2009, 13:26

Thanks guys, theres still more to come off the lap time as i've only done 30 laps so far, according to the 'experts' you need to have done around 50 laps to know the track reasonably well, and over 100laps to know the track well!
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#244 8th November 2009, 13:50

By far the best saxo ive ever seen

The lap of the ring looks minted aswell
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#245 8th November 2009, 13:53

give me your seats josh

i cant wait to get a suzuka in mine, are they awkward to get in and out of?

#246 9th November 2009, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Ash you've already asked me that at the end of the last page

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#247 9th November 2009, 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Ash you've already asked me that at the end of the last page

ahh fail.

stilll... give me your seats
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#248 23rd January 2010, 06:04

SO....

Moving onto 2010

Well...what do i do?

I need:

- Cage (prob go full custom cages weld in & get them to fit it)
- Seat bars welded in
- Sound deadening all removed from interior
- Interior spraying
- Mintex 1144 pads & new disks for the rear
- Replace one of my R888's
- 5 x Black centre caps for the pro race 1.2's
- Passenger 5th point suicide strap for the harnesses

Ive collected a few bits and bobs so far....

Alu Cobra sidemounts

Also got a steering wheel cover from TRS/Colin, thanks bud!

And my gearbox is coming apart to have the quaife fitted to a 1.4xsi FD....

Still gotta fit my single fan system as well

Progress will be slow as usual as im over in Sydney still, but once im back home permanently (which should be some time towards the end of this year) expect things to speed up!

Once all the above is done i will start concentrating on a new NA j4 engine build which ive already started collecting parts for

And a couple of pictures i bought from the ring 2009 trip to remind myself + everyone else what the car looks like Lol
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#249 23rd January 2010, 07:00

Can't wait to see a nice cage go in !!

Looks awesome on the track, the new engine build sounds interesting!!
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#250 23rd January 2010, 08:07

Gut gut!

Tell me more about the cage dude... ?

You will love the gearbox.

So the car is all stripped out now eh? The way forward!

Good progress mate. I wish I could progress on mine, but the coffers have run dry.
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#251 25th January 2010, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

Can't wait to see a nice cage go in !!

Looks awesome on the track, the new engine build sounds interesting!!

And me mate, im going to try and get the cage done before the ring trip, although i doubt it will be done tbh as

1) I have a fair bit of traveling around Oz left to do which is going to take up a large chunk of funds
2) Doubt Sam/Dad will have the time this year but we will see....

Toad - you know how the car was in Germany? thats exactly how it is now.... I dunno about progress.... the car hasnt moved or changed since the end of august lol, Ive just collected a few bits and bobs here and there!

Over the weekend I ticked off another part from the list...

Slightly worn rear disks & rear Mintex 1144 pads
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#252 26th January 2010, 09:11

Ah, OK.

Was curious about the cage choice.
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#253 26th January 2010, 14:06

plans look good josh cant wait to see the car up and running again, let me know when your back in the uk and we'll have to meet up again it been ages lol its been that long im pretty much married lol
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#254 29th January 2010, 17:27

Sweeeettt

#255 30th January 2010, 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonB

plans look good josh cant wait to see the car up and running again, let me know when your back in the uk and we'll have to meet up again it been ages lol its been that long im pretty much married lol

I know its been ages, im glad your back on the scene though

Ill be back a few days before the ring trip in August!

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#256 15th February 2010, 11:45

Quick update: Dad started it on Sat for the first time in a couple of months and it still works, started first time

Thats all, i've starting putting some extra plans together (a few of the lads know) but nothing will be happening for a couple of months yet!
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#257 15th February 2010, 11:50

Where abouts did you get your carbon mirror caps form mate?
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#258 15th February 2010, 12:43

Get the old codger to take it out for a spin a couple of times a month.

I'm sure he won't mind!
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#259 21st March 2010, 22:31

Scan read a fair bit of this thread. I love it!

Would you ever consider selling it?
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#260 23rd March 2010, 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Get the old codger to take it out for a spin a couple of times a month.

I'm sure he won't mind!

well its insured & MOT'd mate, just not taxed lol

Not even considering selling stinky, I still have lots and lots of things planned for this car yet! Few big changes coming up over the next few months to get it ready for the ring trip again.

And then more changes over next winter once im back in the UK and can actualy work on the car on a day to day basis instead of relying on dad/sam to fit in work when they can.
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#261 23rd March 2010, 13:32

How come the single fan system?

iirc you have a twin fan, right or is that something i made up? lol

Wouldn't a twin fan be better?
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#262 10th April 2010, 09:14

Just purchased some expensive metal tube

Thats all....
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#263 10th April 2010, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Just purchased some expensive metal tube

Thats all....

19kg light weight you hero!!!!!
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#264 10th April 2010, 09:31

Not a bad purchase there josh lol
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#265 11th April 2010, 09:16

Lol Alex, hopefully should stiffen things up nicely! Did you end up selling your cage in the end?

Cheers Lee, 19kg indeed, should be good! Its being ordered in from Italy on Monday so i'd imagine it will be a couple of weeks until it arrives. Gearbox should be done by then, so dad will pop it up to Matts for fitting, then down to Bic....
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#266 11th April 2010, 09:19

you hero josh.

nice structural gains and a nice weight saving above your head winner!!

can I have your carpet please..... cheers mate
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#267 11th April 2010, 09:28

Carpet is staying sound deadening is being removed obviously
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#268 11th April 2010, 09:30

you suck. griptape your footwells it's lighter
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#269 11th April 2010, 12:02

Nice Josh! Will it be painted yellow?
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#270 11th April 2010, 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Lol Alex, hopefully should stiffen things up nicely! Did you end up selling your cage in the end?

yea it went man
might buy another one though now I'm working lol!
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#271 11th April 2010, 14:55

looking great josh, your sneeking all this progress in and when it comes for you to actually see/drive it youll be shocked of how much has changed..
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#272 11th April 2010, 18:00

niice motor mate!
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#273 11th April 2010, 23:16

What type cage is that Josh? clicky to cage link please, looks similar to mine good cages these OMP's are you having a carbon roof fitted with streamline carbon?
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#274 11th April 2010, 23:26

cage will be good when fitted, nice and stiff lol, wot you having done to the gear box? diff i bet? sorry not read the yhrea lately, will have a check back through the pages i havent read tommorow wfter work, car looks the sex as usuall josh, especially under the hood.

#275 12th April 2010, 13:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

looking great josh, your sneeking all this progress in and when it comes for you to actually see/drive it youll be shocked of how much has changed..

Yeah im hoping so mate, basically hoping the weight saving will offset the weight of cage near enough so will keep it reasonably quick, and then obviously cage will stiffen up things and improve the chassis. Thats the thought behind it all anyway!

Quote:

Originally Posted by airman87

niice motor mate!

Thanks mate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne

What type cage is that Josh? clicky to cage link please, looks similar to mine

good cages these OMP's are

you having a carbon roof fitted with streamline carbon

Its the 19kg omp weld in mate. Heres the link

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AB-106-129AEW-...item5190215d23

Yeah roof will be done within the next couple of months once gearbox & cage is done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastroadkid69

cage will be good when fitted, nice and stiff lol, wot you having done to the gear box? diff i bet? sorry not read the yhrea lately, will have a check back through the pages i havent read tommorow wfter work, car looks the sex as usuall josh, especially under the hood.

Thanks! Nah box already had a quaife mate, were changing the final drive from a vts/gti to a 1.4xsi as even on the ring i wont need the top end of a vts FD.

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#276 12th April 2010, 15:45

josh you will be so pleased with the box once you have a nice short fd in there! it makes such a difference to the way the car pulls and drives!

oh and not bad cage
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#277 12th April 2010, 17:11

ooo my miss this update, cage should help stiff the chassis up, also a carbon fibre roof!!

this will be crazy!

i keep looking at this.
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#278 12th April 2010, 18:22

Epic car jp
Keep up the good work

#279 13th April 2010, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

josh you will be so pleased with the box once you have a nice short fd in there! it makes such a difference to the way the car pulls and drives!

oh and not bad cage

I drove sams xsi over christmas mate, i can only imagine another 60bhp through the same box, should be good fun

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

ooo my miss this update, cage should help stiff the chassis up, also a carbon fibre roof!!

this will be crazy!

i keep looking at this.

haha Andy your crazy! I will try and keep it up to date

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3cott

Epic car jp

Keep up the good work

Thank mate

Anyway.... seen these to hang off the central mirror the other day....couldnt help but buy them for the mango haha!

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#280 13th April 2010, 13:28

So is it going to be painted yellow or not?
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#281 13th April 2010, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

So is it going to be painted yellow or not?

Shit sorry mate missed your reply. Yes it will be painted.... after the ring because I dont want to paint it and then go drilling brackets etc out once im home which will then wreck the paintwork.
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#282 13th April 2010, 14:12

What colour?
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#283 13th April 2010, 14:18

Mango of course
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#284 13th April 2010, 14:23

Sweet...

Will the carpet be coming out?
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#285 13th April 2010, 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Sweet...

Will the carpet be coming out?

of course....Not. Keeping it semi practical otherwise it will just piss me off tbh. Me & dad have come up with a smart idea for easy removable door bars for the cage as well

No point in having them in for a nice sunday drive, or the drive to the ring. But then once at the ring or a track day, wack them on, simples....
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#286 13th April 2010, 14:58

Removeable side bars? Meh. You need more practice at getting your leg over.
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#287 13th April 2010, 15:28

looking good Josh the S&M cage looks good
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#288 14th April 2010, 13:44

Lol Toad!

Cheers Gav, be good to meet up again once im back, must have been 2 or 3 years since we meet up to pick that gearbox up lol
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#289 14th April 2010, 13:45

dave if you see some of the texts iv seen....

I think josh gets his leg over plenty
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#290 14th April 2010, 13:53

haahahahahaaa Lee, our texts tonight have been quite reserved compared to usual lol
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#291 14th April 2010, 14:20

Forward them to me:

0800 DIRTYTOAD

Ta.
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#292 14th April 2010, 14:35

lovely car, cant wait to see the cage in.
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#293 14th April 2010, 15:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

haahahahahaaa Lee, our texts tonight have been quite reserved compared to usual lol

lols yea quiet reserved today josh for a change lols.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Forward them to me:

0800 DIRTYTOAD

Ta.

dave I couldn't forward over any texts 1 cause they don't make any sense 2 cause they have some seriously strange content
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#294 14th April 2010, 15:31

haha yeah in the Ford Ka of love with the "NOS"
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#295 14th April 2010, 15:35

Ah bummer...
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#296 16th May 2010, 12:51

few more pics....

old FD vs new one

Newer 9 ball bearing type bearing replacing the older type bearing

And finally the mango eyeing up its new prey lol

So the gearbox is all done, dads just putting the bits and bobs back together (like the procomp etc) today.

Cage is due to arrive tomorrow and will be going for fitting asap. Seat bars will also be welded in so I can ditch the subframes.

Along with that i got some cobra Alu lightweight sidemounts from Scott (thanks mate) to go with my cobra seats.

And a couple of 5th point harness spreader plates to be welded to the floor at the same time as the cage to connect the 5th point of my harnesses to.

Cheers

Josh.
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#297 16th May 2010, 12:55

Nice, er axle stands?

Always loved this car
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#298 16th May 2010, 13:07

Wow, fair bit of progress Josh.

Cage looks tasty.
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#299 16th May 2010, 13:15

wow love your car!
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#300 17th May 2010, 08:49

The gearbox looks very tidy. You'll love the difference the higher FD makes.
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#301 17th May 2010, 10:45

Josh
get that german shit out of the way!!

Looks good progress man
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#302 17th May 2010, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

Nice, er axle stands?

Always loved this car

We have them, dont use them when the car is propped up for long periods of time though. Thanks mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushy_23

Wow, fair bit of progress Josh.

Cage looks tasty.

Yeah its not too bad considering its only dad doing the work this year. Cage should add some nice rigidity, but not add too much weight!

Quote:

Originally Posted by younglassXSi

wow love your car!

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

The gearbox looks very tidy. You'll love the difference the higher FD makes.

Yeah im hoping so, Dad took it out for a "short" test drive yesterday and said it is "savage" now lol!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

Josh get that german shit out of the way!!

Looks good progress man

Thats the plan Alex, its going to be pretty quick once dad get its remapped to 260bhp tho!
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#303 17th May 2010, 13:58

It won't be a match for the derv though
pure trooper car

IMO you should give the old girl a thrashing at the ring not your car!!
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#304 22nd May 2010, 12:09

Lol @ the derv, that thing just keeps going and going, awesome motor, especialy for all the bumps in nuneaton!
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#305 22nd May 2010, 17:39

agree josh i love my derv 10k's worth of abuse and happy.
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#306 22nd May 2010, 18:53

hows the beach?

car is nice
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#307 17th June 2010, 01:26

progress :noo:

Here's some pics of where its at so far. Most of the main cage is done (tacked into position), just waiting on materials to do the extra work that Josh has asked for!.

Matt
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#308 17th June 2010, 08:51

This car has always been a personal favourite of mine ever since i saw it in French Car Mag.......and its now getting better and better!!!!!!!

Keep up the good work guys.
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#309 17th June 2010, 08:56

Looks awesome!!!
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#310 17th June 2010, 09:13

Wow, cage looks nicely fitted.

Is that Matt Newton's handy work?
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#311 19th June 2010, 08:36

cheers guys

More updates to come shortly....
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#312 19th June 2010, 11:46

josh.... your making me want a cage now...
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#313 20th June 2010, 13:24

Kev: DO IT!
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#314 20th June 2010, 14:41

I've been following this on shed, absolutely love it!
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#315 24th June 2010, 06:43

After a 70 mile around trip i picked up the chrome moly tube to finish the cage off today. Ive also added some harness eyelets on spreader plates as requested by Josh.

Here is some pics of it finished.

Wooooop
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#316 24th June 2010, 07:05

Love it! Looks great. Bet you cant wait for 2 months time now?

you going to be painting it for the ring?
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#317 24th June 2010, 08:35

Nah it wont be painted for the ring Olly, will just brush some primer on it for now, don't have time and want to remove all the brackets and soundeadening etc before it's painted - will be doing a proper job with our spray gun aswell

I'm thinking mango for the interior and the cage in gloss black, what do people reckon?
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#318 24th June 2010, 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I'm thinking mango for the interior and the cage in gloss black, what do people reckon?

Yes yes yes

Cage looks awesome
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#319 24th June 2010, 08:46

Agreed on the interior colour scheme...however could be a complete ass masking it all off for the 2 colours
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#320 24th June 2010, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom

Yes yes yes

Cage looks awesome

Cheers Tom, I thought it might be a winner!

Quote:

Originally Posted by J222JRA

Agreed on the interior colour scheme...however could be a complete ass masking it all off for the 2 colours

ah it wont be too bad tbh... nothing a weekends work wont sort sometime next spring when im actualy back in england more than a few days at a time lol
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#321 24th June 2010, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin_172

josh.... your making me want a cage now...

I want one too

Matt's done an awesome job once again, very impressed

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I'm thinking mango for the interior and the cage in gloss black, what do people reckon?

Definate winning combo right there!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by J222JRA

Agreed on the interior colour scheme...however could be a complete ass masking it all off for the 2 colours

Shouldnt be too bad, probably wise to spray the cage first. Thatll be much easier to then to just mask the cage off to spray the rest of the interior rather than doing it the other way round id have thought
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#322 24th June 2010, 12:11

looks awesome JP
cant wait to go pick it up

agreed on the colour scheme
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#323 24th June 2010, 13:59

yeeeeeeeoww this is awesome Josh!
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#324 26th June 2010, 05:31

Matt - yep that's the plan, prob won't be sprayed until next year though!

Sam - when are you picking it up? can't wait to get it out again and have a blast through the back lanes

Lewis - yeah I can't wait to drive it mate should be awesome now, especially with the new gearbox as well.
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#325 26th June 2010, 08:12

Cage looks awsome
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#326 26th June 2010, 10:13

looking so good josh
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#327 26th June 2010, 10:31

car looks amazing. gd luck when its all finished
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#328 26th June 2010, 20:30

Plan for interior colour scheme sounds very nice mate, plus with the carbon fibre roof this car will look amazing. Do you have any plans for any other cosmetics? like morettes/smoked headlights, widemouth, stuff like that
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#329 26th June 2010, 20:45

car looks mint mate, very very nice

#330 27th June 2010, 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by ollie-vt-

Plan for interior colour scheme sounds very nice mate, plus with the carbon fibre roof this car will look amazing. Do you have any plans for any other cosmetics? like morettes/smoked headlights, widemouth, stuff like that

Hi mate, not really any plans for more cosmetics, I think it looks good as it is? Carbon roof was mainly for weight saving purposes but also because the paint had started peeling around the ariel as well. Might add some more carbon next year

Lee - thanks mate, can't wait to catch up in a few weeks time!

I'm just waiting for Bic to book me in for the fitting of the roof, in the mean time dad will begin putting the interior back together...

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#331 27th June 2010, 07:07

Colour sounds good mate! I was going to do diffeeent cage to body colour but was cba with masking and it also meant buying more paint! Aha

think i used around 2-3 litres painting mine if its any help.

Also, look at the inside of dans roof, its very cool!

#332 27th June 2010, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olly

Colour sounds good mate! I was going to do diffeeent cage to body colour but was cba with masking and it also meant buying more paint! Aha

think i used around 2-3 litres painting mine if its any help.

Also, look at the inside of dans roof, its very cool!

haha, thanks for the info there mate.

Where are these pics you speak of? Ive looked on shed and cant see anything?

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#333 28th June 2010, 06:49

doesnt look like he has any pictures of it,
Its flocked
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#334 28th June 2010, 12:59

loooooks amazing josh really great work yet again!!! so how long you going to be back before the ring this time?
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#335 28th June 2010, 14:05

looking very nice!

love the way this is going now... full track weapon now

might have to look at this when i pop over next weekend if it there.
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#336 28th June 2010, 14:13

Olly - sounds funky!

Tom - Guessing you seen it yesterday? I've only seen those few pictures that are on this thread, but according to form Matt has done an excellent job, I would assume he has as his welding is second to none!

Im back 2 days before we go the ring (land on tues 24th august) and fly out of the UK 3 days after we get back Lol

Andy - Yeah no fucking around with this now! Im sure dad will open her up for you to have a look round Just ask him mate...
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#337 28th June 2010, 14:35

it nice to see, this is what this car needed!!

andy
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#338 29th June 2010, 15:34

josh i love it,awsom work Matt.this car is ganna look awsom.looks like i gotta make a real effort to come the "ring" just to see her kidda

nice work
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#339 25th August 2010, 17:32

A little teaser...
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#340 25th August 2010, 18:17

Nice work, stop chatting and get them bloody plates fitted lol
few tiny bits still to do though
see my post on my thread
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#341 25th August 2010, 20:01

Looks nice Josh you keeping the carpet? whens the carbon roof going on?
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#342 25th August 2010, 20:14

its on wayne ;D
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#343 25th August 2010, 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicston

its on wayne ;D

Finally look forward to seeing it in the pictures
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#344 25th August 2010, 20:53

oi Josh get more pictures up!!!!
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#345 25th August 2010, 23:35

pics will be on their way once its whored up tomorrow as will the seXSi
only problem is the roof leaks a little!!! bit annoying and disappointing but all in all looks truly awesome!!!!
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#346 27th August 2010, 12:36

is it definately the roof, or could it be the screen ? Can you see where it is leaking in from, what a pain in the ass !
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#347 27th August 2010, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicston

is it definately the roof, or could it be the screen ? Can you see where it is leaking in from, what a pain in the ass !

Yeah it's leaking from the 2 rear corners,nothing much to worry about just needed to bring a towel to the ring with us lol

Pretty sure we've found out it's from the 4 rear tailgate bolts that weren't tight enough or sealed (just so you know for the next person mate)
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#348 27th August 2010, 18:17

Come on i want pictures of mango and carbon roof whens the inside getting painted Josh?
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#349 27th August 2010, 20:03

yer where the pictures Josh!!!!!
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#350 28th August 2010, 18:25

Ok ok...
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#351 28th August 2010, 18:27

looks ggod! got a fair few broken motors kicking about there????
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#352 28th August 2010, 18:48

Please change the back lights... Whether you go for standard or smoked jewels... Would improve the looks so much
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#353 28th August 2010, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHIP

Please change the back lights... Whether you go for standard or smoked jewels... Would improve the looks so much

Definitely.
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#354 28th August 2010, 19:13

Me love the rooooof!!
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#355 28th August 2010, 20:30

Looks good Josh any close ups of the weave please
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#356 28th August 2010, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayyoung

looks ggod! got a fair few broken motors kicking about there????

Nurburg village is in the background, should give you a good idea why the broken cars are there lol

Nah not changing the rear lights, I like them.

Wayne - I'll get some good quality ones when I'm home and have given the car a wash mate lol
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#357 28th August 2010, 21:20

is that a quattro or just a coupe?

#358 28th August 2010, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Nurburg village is in the background, should give you a good idea why the broken cars are there lol

Nah not changing the rear lights, I like them.

Wayne - I'll get some good quality ones when I'm home and have given the car a wash mate lol

I'll let you off this once

i bet the mango is filthy

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#359 28th August 2010, 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Nah not changing the rear lights, I like them.

That's fair enough then

Still the best Mango on the site.
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#360 28th August 2010, 23:10

coupe by the looks of it
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#361 31st August 2010, 10:25

ah okay not so bad, yes we were still fitting the tailgate when your dad turned up, was a bit manic, they normally arent sealed though. Glad you got to the ring evenutally though.
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#362 31st August 2010, 10:29

Loud in there?
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#363 1st September 2010, 10:32

Yep got there eventually Bic!

Joeboy - yeah its bloody loud inside now, had to wear ear plugs on the drive over lol

Love this pic from Andy on the drive over to the ring.
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#364 1st September 2010, 10:50

love this car josh, its improved so much since even a couple of years ago.
just the little things to do now hey...

cant wait to go back over there, i want to lap my face off!!!
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#365 1st September 2010, 12:23

awesome, mean and moody shot ;D

#366 8th September 2010, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

love this car josh, its improved so much since even a couple of years ago.
just the little things to do now hey...

cant wait to go back over there, i want to lap my face off!!!

Yep just the little bits and bobs to tidy up and spray te interior!

It's crazy how much the boundaries get pushed forward each year with these little French hot hatches, and obviously the credit for the last couple of years has to go to dad. I need to get that video off Alex of me harassing that new focus rs for 1/4 of the lap before he let me passed, and that was only my second lap of the weekend so wasn't really that quick-of-a-lap.

Cheers Bic!

I gave her a good clean last week will get some pics up this afternoon

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#367 8th September 2010, 19:45

oo josh love it, glad you had a good trip to the ring!!
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#368 9th September 2010, 00:53

Yeah it was ace Andy!

Few ring pictures....

Nearly on 3 wheels!

This is my personal favourite...
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#369 9th September 2010, 09:36

Looks awesome man

Your bonnet looks a different shade of mango in the 'ring pictures?? Maybe just the light though.
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#370 9th September 2010, 12:25

I'll sort that vid out asap josh lol
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#371 9th September 2010, 12:34

looks epic mate!
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#372 9th September 2010, 14:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proffitt

Looks awesome man

Your bonnet looks a different shade of mango in the 'ring pictures?? Maybe just the light though.

Yeah thats prob because it hadnt been washed for 6months lol.

Alex - nice one pal.

Jayyoung - cheers mate, its nearly there now chassis wise, just needs a bit more lightening (brackets to drill out, sound deadening to come out from behind the dash and more CF) and the interior sprayed which we will do next spring.
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#373 9th September 2010, 19:24

Looks awesome in the photos mate!
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#374 9th September 2010, 19:27

Nice pictures
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#375 9th September 2010, 21:15

Interior as it stands now... (obviously not complete yet)

CF Roof
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#376 9th September 2010, 21:17

If im being honest this is my favourite saxo on the site! 100%
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#377 9th September 2010, 21:18

Jealous
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#378 9th September 2010, 21:53

the carbon roof is such a QUALITY part, it really gives that extra touch that makes it stand out above the rest. get that cage and the inside painted and it will be sex.. with any sort of engine spec change i would think another mag feature could be in order lol
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#379 9th September 2010, 22:54

Jp
Your car is stunning
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#380 9th September 2010, 23:06

That roof is beautiful

#381 10th September 2010, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by WIDE-VTR-TURBO

If im being honest this is my favourite saxo on the site! 100%

Thats a huge compliment mate, im not so sure, im pretty sure I could name a few that are better as a complete package, Dannys for one!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

Jealous

Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

the carbon roof is such a QUALITY part, it really gives that extra touch that makes it stand out above the rest. get that cage and the inside painted and it will be sex.. with any sort of engine spec change i would think another mag feature could be in order lol

Yeah I agree with you there pal, im really happy with how the roofs come out, it was funny when it was raining, its so bloody loud inside lol. Engine im planning changes, just its going to cost lots of $$$$ so I must get saving. Wont be ready for next years trip but probs the the trip after...

So ring next year, and spa before or after whichever suits best?! what do you think? Spa track days are expensive but once in a life time kind of opportunity i reckon!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3cott

Jp
Your car is stunning

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

That roof is beautiful

Thanks guys, appreciate it

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#382 10th September 2010, 15:01

Loving the roof Josh just as good as mine some of the pictures in page 19 don't work
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#383 10th September 2010, 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne

Loving the roof Josh just as good as mine some of the pictures in page 19 don't work

Yep, just need to get yours finished and out on track and get learning now pal! Which pics arent working?
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#384 10th September 2010, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Yep, just need to get yours finished and out on track and get learning now pal! Which pics arent working?

My car will be on track once finished and built then i'll learn how the car drives pictures are working now
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#385 11th September 2010, 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne

My car will be on track once finished and built then i'll learn how the car drives pictures are working now

What's the sort of time scale on yours Wayne? Just thinking for ring next year that's all.

So with the half decent September weather so far I'm planning on taking the car out a few times before the winter. First job however will be to fix the manifold collector which the ring has destroyed once again lol, I'll get pictures up of that tomorrow.

#386 11th September 2010, 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

What's the sort of time scale on yours Wayne? Just thinking for ring next year that's all.

So with the half decent September weather so far I'm planning on taking the car out a few times before the winter. First job however will be to fix the manifold collector which the ring has destroyed once again lol, I'll get pictures up of that tomorrow.

Spring time next year my car will be complete

will be coming with you and the west mids lot next year for the ring trip

makes sense to have some fun in your car before the winter

unlucky about the manifold collector

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#387 11th September 2010, 15:12

Car look really nice in them pictures (love the carbonn roof)
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#388 11th September 2010, 15:21

love is josh just needs me to detail it for you and improve your wiper set up
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#389 11th September 2010, 16:12

haha Tom - Yes I need it detailing really really badly, the paintwork is aweful! Can we organise a date? im basically free every weekend when you are mate. It needs a PC if you have one?

#390 11th September 2010, 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne

Spring time next year my car will be complete

will be coming with you and the west mids lot next year for the ring trip

makes sense to have some fun in your car before the winter

unlucky about the manifold collector

When's next years trip? I can get hold of a 600 year old mansion REALLY cheap if anyone is interested?

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#391 13th September 2010, 19:51

Spec list to end 2010:

Engine:-
1.6 16v J4 VTS Engine
Cat Cam 708 cams
High compression Wossner Pistons
Jenvey SF throttle boddies with custom curved trumpets & Airbox
Pro Comp carbon fiber air feed for airbox
Larger injectors
Pug Sport Baffled sump
BTB 4-1 Manifold
BTB exhaust system
16row Mocal oil cooler with thermostatic sandwich plate
KMS ECU standalone management system with wideband Lambda & display
Fully rebuilt 1.4xsi Gearbox with Quaife LSD
Group N engine mounts all round

Chassis:-
Front AST Coilover conversion with Pug Sport Tarmac front dampers & 250lb Faulkner springs
Caster & Camber adjustable AST solid top mounts with top mount strengthening plates
Front Group N rear wishbone bushes
Front Powerflex ARB bushes
Front Polyrace wishbone bushes
Custom front upper strut brace
OMP Lower strut brace
Hi-Spec 4 pot front brakes with Mintex 1155 pads, grooved disks & braided lines
VTS Rear Disk beam conversion with braided rear lines
Tarmac Pugsport Bilstein rear dampers
Rear beam Polyrace bushes
24mm Rear ARB
22mm Pugsport Rear Torsion Bars
OMP 19kg lightweight cage

Interior:-
Kevlar Cobra Suzuka bucket seats with welded seat bars
TRS 5 point 3 inch Driver and passenger harnesses
OMP dished Corsica steering wheel
S1 106 Black Carpet
Stripped out
Carbon Door cards & S2 106 door bins
Pro Race 1.2 Spare wheel wrapped with an R888 and secured with a 3 point TRS spare wheel strap

Exterior:-
Team Dynamic 15inch Pro Race 1.2s wrapped in R888s
Standard bodywork
Carbon Mirror caps
Smoked indicator repeaters
Smoked Rear lights
Carbon fibre roof & carbon fibre roof cross bars
Carbon fibre number plates
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#392 13th September 2010, 20:07

Now that's a fuck off spec!
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#393 13th September 2010, 20:56

josh what temp does your oil get to on the track with that oil cooler?
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#394 13th September 2010, 21:24

about 2/3's mate, never goes over, well even doing 2 laps of the ring in a row it didnt go over that anyway. Where as with the 13row i found it was going over 3/4!

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

Now that's a fuck off spec!

haha, it WILL get better though, needs alot of tidying up tbh.
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#395 13th September 2010, 21:32

Epic mate
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#396 13th September 2010, 21:40

yer... i have toad old 13 row.... going to use it see what happens... if it gets too hot will swap it with a 16 row type.

thanks for the info.
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#397 13th September 2010, 22:02

got bored read the hole blog, well impressed tbh , job well done matey
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#398 4th October 2010, 22:39

Thanks for the comments above lads.

Heres a video taken by AlexB (thanks mate) on a damp lap round the nurburgring chasing down a brand new focus RS.
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#399 5th October 2010, 08:39

nice vid mate, must say tho the guy in the rs cant drive
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#400 5th October 2010, 13:04

Good times tbh
loved at the end after the gantry him like that was fun

he nearly hit that teg at the jump as he was too busy watching you in his mirrors the fool lol

#401 5th October 2010, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

Good times tbh
loved at the end after the gantry him like that was fun

he nearly hit that teg at the jump as he was too busy watching you in his mirrors the fool lol

Yeah instead of letting us past lol

I love the "get out the way you fucking piece of shit" and then "HAHAHAHA from you", and then at the end you telling the guy "Yeah its pretty quick for a 1.4 hey mate, and he replied fuck off" lol

I was suprised that it was hardly quicker than mine down the straights, considering its 300bhp!

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#402 5th October 2010, 18:22

RS' are only 203bhp per tonne or something aren't they?
What power are you putting out?
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#403 5th October 2010, 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

RS' are only 203bhp per tonne or something aren't they?
What power are you putting out?

About 180 per ton, that would explain why then.
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#404 5th October 2010, 18:34

180 per tonne is really good RS clio's are about 166 i think off the top of my head.
You done any 0-60 1/4 mile tests?

How much was the CF roof btw? Are you very rich? Seems like overkill lol

#405 5th October 2010, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

he wasnt impressed at the 1.4 comment lol

#406 5th October 2010, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

180 per tonne is really good RS clio's are about 166 i think off the top of my head.
You done any 0-60 1/4 mile tests?

How much was the CF roof btw? Are you very rich? Seems like overkill lol

nah im not into 1/4 mile stuff, track days are where its at!

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#407 5th October 2010, 18:47

True just thought you may have done them just to see what it does.
Notice you avoided the rich question
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#408 5th October 2010, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

True just thought you may have done them just to see what it does.
Notice you avoided the rich question

Im not rich mate, i just work hard when im over in Oz and earn a good wage!
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#409 7th October 2010, 18:12

Woooopsss!

Doing a full day open pit track day at rockingham on Sunday, can't wait!
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#410 7th October 2010, 18:41

Wow mate, thats just mental, i swear you have had a few issues with the manifolds? I remember you saying you welded your last crack?

Jason
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#411 7th October 2010, 18:56

thats terrible mate... cant believe its gone like that. what mani is it?
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#412 7th October 2010, 19:59

It's a btb mild steel one lads, it's lasted 4years which isn't bad considering it's done 4 ring trips, silverstone, mallory, landow twice, donnington etc track days as well!
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#413 7th October 2010, 20:01

Even parts of the Titanic are in better nick!

I would have thought that it would take a lot more than what you've done to get that bad?

#414 7th October 2010, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

It's a btb mild steel one lads, it's lasted 4years which isn't bad considering it's done 4 ring trips, silverstone, mallory, landow twice, donnington etc track days as well!

I spose thats now that bad at all then... thats quite a few trips ha

You doing the ring next year?

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#415 8th October 2010, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

Even parts of the Titanic are in better nick!

I would have thought that it would take a lot more than what you've done to get that bad?

haha, true true! Its done all the above track days as i mentioned, plus i dont think it helped that i was running standard top 2 engine mounts for all of the events apart from this years ring trip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tufty

I spose thats now that bad at all then... thats quite a few trips ha You doing the ring next year?

Yeah of course, if i cant save up 500quid between now and july then i need to be shot lol

OK; couple of updates, Rockingham have cancelled the track day on Sunday which is annoying, so im gonna head down to the touring cars final round at brands hatch and have a decent drive in the mango.

Also Manifold is now fixed, i cant be arsed to fit it though as I walked 8 miles at work today lol
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#416 8th October 2010, 20:28

Was actually really looking forward to rockingham when i rang up to book mega dissapointment for moi.

#417 8th October 2010, 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

haha, true true! Its done all the above track days as i mentioned, plus i dont think it helped that i was running standard top 2 engine mounts for all of the events apart from this years ring trip.

Yeah of course, if i cant save up 500quid between now and july then i need to be shot lol

OK; couple of updates, Rockingham have cancelled the track day on Sunday which is annoying, so im gonna head down to the touring cars final round at brands hatch and have a decent drive in the mango.

Also Manifold is now fixed, i cant be arsed to fit it though as I walked 8 miles at work today lol

£500? is that all it costs? Seems quite cheap? Is that for like petrol costs? accommodation?

Shame about the track day. how did you fix the manifold, cut and re-weld?

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#418 8th October 2010, 20:46

Sorted!

Can't get any pics of the weld repair in the garage will get some in the day light tomorrow
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#419 8th October 2010, 20:49

Would it be worth making a plate to put on the bottom of the manifold.....similar to a sump guard to help protect it abit??
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#420 8th October 2010, 20:53

^ yea good idea, custom head shield, you seem pretty handy with the tools so far, might be worth a shot. Looking awesome either way
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#421 8th October 2010, 21:18

Nah guys, my cars not low, the manifold will never get near the ground and it's not built to be rallied.
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#422 10th October 2010, 21:39

Just been down to brands hatch and back in the mango today, feels much better with the manifold fixed, especially the mid range
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#423 20th October 2010, 20:27

Proper update, pics will do the talking.

5th points on both harnesses.

Wheel cover

Before...

After... (still to be completed)

Dials (proper carbon fibre, not a sticker)

Cobra ALU sidemounts mounted on welded mounts

Inner harness mounts welded in (under the carpet)

Fitted my new rear disks and mintex 1144 pads & painted the calipers black to match front hispecs

Carbon fibre number plates

Removed the rear carpet and tar things

Bit of welding needs doing

Oz mascots lol

Another couple of pics of of the carbon roof & cross members
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#424 20th October 2010, 21:12

Is the strippedness annoying you yet? lol
Looks mega though..
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#425 20th October 2010, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Is the strippedness annoying you yet? lol
Looks mega though..

stripped ftw. although i do panic when i hear a big stone hit inside the arch!

josh, seen a few of the CF plates recently, are the legal then?
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#426 20th October 2010, 21:45

Those cross members are to die for. Structural carbon fibre is just porn
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#427 20th October 2010, 21:53

that roof is freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#428 21st October 2010, 11:13

Very cool Josh.
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#429 21st October 2010, 11:45

Your car is pure porn.

Love how you've kept the mango gear knob
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#430 21st October 2010, 12:40

love this car it's ssssoooo nice
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#431 21st October 2010, 13:24

Josh has the cage been sprayed White?
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#432 21st October 2010, 13:30

Ah, you received the gear surround then Car looks as smart as ever
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#433 23rd October 2010, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Is the strippedness annoying you yet? lol
Looks mega though..

Nah mate its not a daily car so doesnt annoy me at all pal!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

stripped ftw. although i do panic when i hear a big stone hit inside the arch!

josh, seen a few of the CF plates recently, are the legal then?

Haha true true!

They technically arent legal because they arent reflective, but if you dont act and drive like a dick then you should have any issues tbh...

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

Those cross members are to die for. Structural carbon fibre is just porn

So true, gotta love CF

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayyoung

that roof is freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!

The roof does rock i agree, will be combined with a CF bonnet and boot soon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proffitt

Your car is pure porn.

Love how you've kept the mango gear knob

Gotta keep a few of the original parts of the car

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

love this car it's ssssoooo nice

Thanks buddy, yours will be up to my standard if not better once the engines in and running all good!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Josh has the cage been sprayed White?

Nah just primered the cage so it doesnt go rusty for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHIP

Ah, you received the gear surround then Car looks as smart as ever

Yeah I got it pal, thanks, it looks spot on now

Pictures of todays big clean to come...
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#434 23rd October 2010, 19:22

Ok big clean today sponsored by Tom aka unreal

Lol

Tom working his magic

All finished
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#435 23rd October 2010, 19:38

That roof must have a nice thick clear coat on it. Looks uber shiny
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#436 23rd October 2010, 20:05

Shiny

Needs lowering though lol
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#437 23rd October 2010, 20:25

love the car, but them rear lights, unsure if they work with your car,
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#438 25th October 2010, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

That roof must have a nice thick clear coat on it. Looks uber shiny

Yup yup, its really hard to get mango to come up reflective, id go as far as saying the car is now as clean if not cleaner than when i had the PFC mag shoot a couple of years back.

Tom has done a cracking job thats for sure!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3cott

Shiny

Needs lowering though lol

Its a track car not a picking-up-whores car

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

love the car, but them rear lights, unsure if they work with your car,

Hmmmm ive always liked them, same with the tints. Goes with the whole mango and black theme imo. and thanks mate
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#439 25th October 2010, 19:59

got to be the best mango on here
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#440 26th October 2010, 18:50

Thanks pal!

Found a track day at Mallory, full day, open pit, for 75quid so gonna do that in November
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#441 26th October 2010, 18:53

Just a quick question as you have had an engine conversion also.
When the fuel gets to the orange light do you find the car will not rev past 4k?
Mine has also cut out on a roundabout when low on fuel also.
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#442 26th October 2010, 18:57

don't run it low!?
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#443 26th October 2010, 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Thanks pal!

Found a track day at Mallory, full day, open pit, for 75quid so gonna do that in November

What dates on november JP??? Whats mal like? Easy track for my first session?
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#444 26th October 2010, 19:08

mallory a good track, it like cadwell but not as tight i would say my uncle loves the track

for then price tho well worth it imo!!
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#445 26th October 2010, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

mallory a good track, it like cadwell but not as tight i would say my uncle loves the track

for then price tho well worth it imo!!

Could well be worth it then! Will be a last minute thing for me until i know the car is done.
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#446 26th October 2010, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Thanks pal!

Found a track day at Mallory, full day, open pit, for 75quid so gonna do that in November

tidy, sounds like it would be a good day :Y:
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#447 26th October 2010, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

don't run it low!?

lol but when you are used to being able to do it. It can be quite annoying.
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#448 26th October 2010, 21:21

You cant run my car under 1/4 round mallory due to fuel surge coming out of gerrards lol

Heres the link or the track day lads

http://www.focusedevents.com/car_event_info.asp?ID=136

I'd say it will be a great track to learn on, not too long so easy to remember the corners and plenty of run off and a nice variety of slow and fast corners. You will need to book it soon though because there is only 9 spaces left now

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#449 24th November 2010, 08:45

get some snaps up of my hard labour matey!
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#450 22nd December 2010, 13:19

ahem remember our deal you do it I will get a lcfc shirt with beckham on the back
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#451 6th March 2011, 19:00

Onto 2011...

Im back in the UK for roughly the next 6 months so im going to get cracking with tidying up the saxo so its properly protected to last for at least the next couple of years as ill be away in Oz from August/Sept this year until 2013 at least, and only coming back for the odd ring trip.

Anyway started off with a few bits and bobs today.

First up was to turn the engine over (as its been sat over the winter), check the plugs, then crank the engine over without the spark plugs in to get oil around the engine until the oil pressure light goes out.

Spark plugs looking good, so engine is still running well

Kms back on as its kept inside over the winter in the warm and dry

Battery back on

New centre console; Before (with holes)

After; without holes (and gave the interior a good clean/hoover)

Mirror caps needed re-doing; before

After

Also drivers side carbon door card was coming off; so a bit of "no nails" and some brown tape to hold it until it dries should have sorted that

And finally at the end of last year I had the rear arches sorted as they were showing signs of rust (common problem for most saxos/106s, but the carpet & tar normally hides it)

This will be properly sprayed when we spray the whole interior & cage after my track day @ cadwell on the 4th of April.

Thats it for now, ill be cracking on over the next few weeks checking and changing things where needed and will try and keep this thread up to date
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#452 6th March 2011, 19:04

good stuff, glad to see your back and safe. get that mango mint(er)
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#453 6th March 2011, 19:07

Excellent JP mate
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#454 6th March 2011, 19:29

cheers guys, next up is to carry on with the bits and bobs, and going to check the alternator belt/pullies & the cambelt next weekend as long as the weathers half decent
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#455 6th March 2011, 19:34

good stuff! i have to say, it's allright for some...f*cking off to Oz full time and flying back as and when for Ring trips...

the other half, eh
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#456 6th March 2011, 22:01

Welcome back to the UK mate Time to get your hands dirty again
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#457 6th March 2011, 22:41

welcome home matey good stuff on getting the car back up and going now get to some shows!
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#458 6th March 2011, 22:43

Out of all the performance cars on here this is my favourite!!

Silly bits like keeping the carpet in the front make it my kind of style lol.

Keep up the good work, hope to see this car at some point.
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#459 6th March 2011, 22:52

Must be a good feeling coming back after time and getting back in it again

Still as good as ever!
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#460 7th March 2011, 10:00

Nice one Josh, you must be over the moon you can spend more money on her ha
What do you do for a living if you dont mind me asking? to say you wont see the car for two years is along time!

What track days have you got booked for this year? Cadwell and Ring?

#461 7th March 2011, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Era

good stuff! i have to say, it's allright for some...f*cking off to Oz full time and flying back as and when for Ring trips...

the other half, eh

Haha Joe, you know the saying, work hard, play hard

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

Welcome back to the UK mate

Time to get your hands dirty again

Indeedy mate, going to get it mechanically sound (it is anyway i just want to check a few things) before cadwell, then after that ill whip the underneath all off and get sanding/painting lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

welcome home matey good stuff on getting the car back up and going now get to some shows!

Definitely will be attending a few shows, FCS is a must with a few track slots as well. Trax is a maybe depending on when i hear about the visa, is there anything else you lot are planning to attend?

Quote:

Originally Posted by J222JRA

Out of all the performance cars on here this is my favourite!!

Silly bits like keeping the carpet in the front make it my kind of style lol.

Keep up the good work, hope to see this car at some point.

Thanks buddy, I do try and keep it as tidy as possible, but also making it lighter/quicker each year as well. Its a fine balence. The most important thing for me is for it to be reliable, so i can jump in it when im back and drive it

Carpet is definitely staying, although this is mainly a track car i do take it out to meets or days out if the weather is good, so keeping the carpet for the sake of 0.1 seconds is well worth it imo. And im sure you will see it at some point, i loved going around to all the meets a few years back so ill definitely be going to as many as possible while im back

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

Must be a good feeling coming back after time and getting back in it again

Still as good as ever!

I dont think ive driven it since October lol, in fact its basically not had the car cover off since me and Tom gave it a proper clean and PC polish in the middle of october!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tufty

Nice one Josh, you must be over the moon you can spend more money on her ha

What do you do for a living if you dont mind me asking? to say you wont see the car for two years is along time!

What track days have you got booked for this year? Cadwell and Ring?

My bank account is shivering at the moment but im resiting the temptation lol

I work in sales for a company called Telstra in Oz (basically same as BT), selling phones, internet, foxtel (sky) etc. Its good money but bloody hard work, I can work over 55hours most weeks... including saturdays.

Currently got the ring and cadwell, but have a credit with a company for my cancelled mallory track day (due to snow) at the end of last year lol, so will be doing either mallory as its literally 5mins from my house, or maybe snetterton 300 new track looks pretty good. WOuldnt mind doing brands or oulton park as well.

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#462 7th March 2011, 20:01

I hope to be doing the new snetterton in may looks good and only 25 mins max from me so is my local track.
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#463 8th March 2011, 09:42

I see fair enough mate, must be pretty nice to live and work over there i guess? How comes you changed your mind on the boot lid?
What date is this cadwell track day? I wonder if its fully booked, odds are that it is!
It really pisses me off i have no decent tracks around me that are decent enough for my cars spec. Hmmm
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#464 8th March 2011, 09:49

looks alright i guess
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#465 14th March 2011, 22:39

Tufty - Boot lid ill keep and do my own thing with it, just requires some work as i want to keep it oe looking so hopefully Bic can put a number plate recess into it if it doesnt sell. We will see...

Cadwell wasnt fully booked last time i checked, think its gone up 10quid now though to £165.

Yeah oz is good mate, just miss friends, family and the mango from over here.

Anyway the mangos currently in lots of parts, i got digging at the weekend and the bay needs some treatment so gonna get cracking with that. Took a few brackets off and gave them a lick of paint, as well as the new larger servo (gti/vts one) & the 23mm MC will go on at the same time. Also took the alternator belt off tonight and thats nicely brittle and cracked all the way round so ill grab a new one of those tomorrow.

Few pics just to keep it updated...

Going to try and get the bay all cleaned up lob loads of "krust" on it during this week and then wack it all back together at the weekend

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#466 14th March 2011, 22:43

bring on the weekend!!

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#467 14th March 2011, 23:02

Svens army
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#468 15th March 2011, 18:37

Managed to get the servo painted and back on this afternoon (what a bastard!),

Also got the alternator bracket off, cleaned up the pullies (as they were a bit rusty due to it sitting for long periods) and the main pully at the bottom of the engine to check it was all good.

Next is to put the 23mm MC on and bleed up the brakes, make sure everythings working, and then tidy up the bay and put it all back together. Should be done by Sunday
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#469 15th March 2011, 20:13

Love this car
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#470 15th March 2011, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangojace

Love this car

....+1 couldn't agree more!
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#471 15th March 2011, 20:53

Thanks lads
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#472 15th March 2011, 21:02

looking good jp, its always nice to get these type of jobs done..
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#473 16th March 2011, 06:55

nice work josh will have to pop round at the weekend have a quick look at it, nice to get it all neatened up!

get yourself a slim line fan will look much better in the bay and some nice weight saving!
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#474 16th March 2011, 16:20

Already got one Tom, ill get it fitted asap

Yeah pop over, im busy pretty much all saturday but sunday im free all day, youve got my number mate? give me a buzz
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#475 17th March 2011, 20:21

Got a few more bits and bobs done over the past couple of evenings

Alternator belt nicely cracked (all the way around) and brittle

New one picked up today

Took all the alternator shiz off and cleaned it up as well

More tomorrow
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#476 17th March 2011, 20:31

2 days woooo!
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#477 19th March 2011, 19:44

Well The yak got gunned down by nuggent lol.

More work on the mango tomorrow
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#478 19th March 2011, 19:59

yup the YAK was a big fat lard arse today lol

anyway was good catching up again and actually seeing your car in person for once and these bodies are rather bloody nice
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#479 19th March 2011, 20:09

Loving the car pal
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#480 19th March 2011, 20:13

Especially the sound of bodies on the ring video

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#481 19th March 2011, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by elkoi

Loving the car pal

Thanks pal
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#482 20th March 2011, 01:09

So you work in Oz for how long and then come back to England?
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#483 20th March 2011, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

So you work in Oz for how long and then come back to England?

Not at all at the moment as I don't have a visa lol, but normally work there about 10 months of the year and back here 2 months a year (a month over Christmas, and a month in the English summer)

Anyway back to the car...
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#484 20th March 2011, 09:58

Sounds good mate although because they drive on the left i would have the car shipped over and back all the time!
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#485 20th March 2011, 10:03

I love your car! Come fit a 16v engine in my car please lmao work of art mate
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#486 20th March 2011, 20:53

Hardcorejoe - lol, if I move over there permanently ill definitely got it wrapped up and shipped over there

Jake - thanks bud!

Couple more pics, got more done after alex and Lee popped over to drop his gripper dif over but forgot to take pics

Larger servo and 23mm master cylinder all done and bleed up

Drivers side tidied up, primered and painted (pics of it painted tomorrow)

It's been 5 years since the car was originally built so some parts definitely needed going over again to preserve the chassis! More pics tomorrow...
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#487 28th March 2011, 20:18

Got it all back together tonight lads, went to start, was turning but not firing. Had a wiggle around the bay, checked everything over. Still the same... Hmmm

Then put ignition on, fuel pump wasn't priming. Checked fuse box in the bay, a fuse had gone, wacked a new fuse in, bam! Started first time, running and idling alot sweeter now as well.

Let her warm up, checked the new slimline fan, spinning the wrong way so I'll swap the cables over tomorrow, and put the headlights, grill, procomp and strut brace all back in.

Pics tomorrow
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#488 28th March 2011, 20:22

Looking good, been getting my shell all sorted at the moment undersell it all today, get all the nice rust bit off, then all coated,

When the next track say booked for, I am hipfully booking on for 19th or 23rd of may time
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#489 28th March 2011, 20:24

Cadwell on Sunday mate
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#490 29th March 2011, 08:28

Hmm interesting might pop up there
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#491 29th March 2011, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Hmm interesting might pop up there

There's quite a few of the shed guys going mate so should be a few passenger places going id imagine if you bring your lid with you
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#492 29th March 2011, 16:47

PHOTOS please jp
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#493 29th March 2011, 19:12

Here you go Tom
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#494 29th March 2011, 19:25

Nice work mate. No doubt I'll be over for a nose around it on Sunday.
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#495 29th March 2011, 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeumH

Nice work mate. No doubt I'll be over for a nose around it on Sunday.

Yeah come and introduce yourself mate

Btw that isn't rust on the slam panel it's just dirt that's stuck to the clear underseal I put on it a few years back.
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#496 29th March 2011, 19:53

looking good jp
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#497 29th March 2011, 20:05

when its sorted im expecting you to come and visit me
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#498 29th March 2011, 20:09

looking good, any chance you tell me what you used to spray the inner wing bit in the engine bay?

as i am welding the top mount strenghten plates which are coming from TRS so going to have to spray them so going to spray the whole side bits, just wanted to know the best way really, dnt need a very good job just something to make it look better

and yer might take a drive up to have a watch.

#499 29th March 2011, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

looking good, any chance you tell me what you used to spray the inner wing bit in the engine bay?

as i am welding the top mount strenghten plates which are coming from TRS so going to have to spray them so going to spray the whole side bits, just wanted to know the best way really, dnt need a very good job just something to make it look better

and yer might take a drive up to have a watch.

If you look back through my photobucket account you'll see how we did it. Basically masked the engine off, removed suspension and everything around the top struts and sprayed it using our compressor/spray gun in the garage lol

Danny - definitely!

Lee - cheers mate

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#500 29th March 2011, 20:46

yer i have no engine in it just a shell really but with few bit still in, not painting the bulkhead, just the side bits as we are welding few bits and top mounts,

yer thanks hope the top mounts come soon so i can weld them on.

#501 29th March 2011, 20:59

Yeah we didn't spray the bulkhead either. Tbh I want to strip the whole chassis down in a couple of years, this work is just to tidy it up and maintain it so it's still in a reasonable state in a couple of years

Next up is pulling everything off underneath and painting it all up...

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

and yer might take a drive up to have a watch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

yer i have no engine in it just a shell really but with few bit still in, not painting the bulkhead, just the side bits as we are welding few bits and top mounts,

yer thanks hope the top mounts come soon so i can weld them on.

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#502 29th March 2011, 21:47

very nice project!

cheers
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#503 29th March 2011, 21:57

yer i been undersealing my car for the last few days, getting it all covered now.
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#504 29th March 2011, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

yer i been undersealing my car for the last few days, getting it all covered now.

Its definitely worth it pal, what products are you using?
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#505 30th March 2011, 17:21

sooo much easyer using a compressor with a stone chip gun
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#506 30th March 2011, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

sooo much easyer using a compressor with a stone chip gun

Alright alright don't rub it in

Mango is finished tonight, everything back on, oil and filter changed, bring on cadwell on Sunday, rock on
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#507 30th March 2011, 21:12

Hmm nothing like that just a can job to be fair, just want to clean some surface rust of and spary it up abit.
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#508 30th March 2011, 21:34

I smell 240bhp on the cards
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#509 30th March 2011, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

I smell 240bhp on the cards

Civic type R mugen coming? lol
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#510 30th March 2011, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

I smell 240bhp on the cards

If I get my new Oz visa that is, big If!
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#511 3rd April 2011, 05:09

Took a few pics last night after we washed it...

Then me and dad fitted my sum strip in the dark before Olly came over. Anyway the reason I'm up at this Stupied time were about to leave for cadwell wooop wooop
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#512 3rd April 2011, 07:48

Good luck on the track today dude, dont push it too hard!! lol
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#513 3rd April 2011, 09:31

same again josh, good luck.. let us know how it went asap.
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#514 3rd April 2011, 09:37

Yes would of love to cone over, but it mothers day and I am taking my old dear out for a meal now, have a good time, hope the car dose you proud.
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#515 3rd April 2011, 09:39

haha that rear interior shot reminds me of mine
although you're probably gonna whore it up and actually get round to spraying it paint adds weight dontchaknow

hope cadwell goes well chap
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#516 3rd April 2011, 21:39

Went awesome lads, enjoyed it so much, its bloody quick round there in current spec, an extra 30-40hp and another track day and there wouldnt be much to touch it round there i reckon!

Track is amazing, would recommend it to anyone on his with a little french hatch, ill definitely be trying to fit another session in before the summers out

Lol...

Ill get pics up once I have them from Jason and megan...
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#517 3rd April 2011, 21:59

Got my new sunstrip on as well now
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#518 3rd April 2011, 22:07

looking top mate! Love this car!
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#519 3rd April 2011, 22:08

good stuff josh, glad you had a good day. would like to do cadwell when i get back from the ring..
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#520 3rd April 2011, 22:11

Loving the car, buckets look awesome, what type are they?
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#521 3rd April 2011, 22:21

Is that a fellow standard towing eye i spot?
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#522 3rd April 2011, 22:39

well done mate, glad all went well
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#523 3rd April 2011, 23:09

Car looked to go well today mate. You had a few flames through hall bends on a couple of occasions too.

Think the only shedders I spoke to were Dan and Ash - didn't manage to bump into you.
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#524 4th April 2011, 10:12

enjoy it at cadwell yesterday then jp? I'd like to do cadwell but iv heard from loads it's just a really fast track and with me still being a beginner I'm unsure man
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#525 4th April 2011, 10:19

Hope you had a good day out JP, cars looks right at home

Have a chat with Stew (sexy_gt), he practically lives at Cadwell!
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#526 4th April 2011, 12:33

Couple more pics from Megan
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#527 4th April 2011, 17:48

Awesome day yesterday, really smashing round on the last session!

Think the engine is perfect for road based track car, not too intrusive on the road and nice bark on track.
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#528 4th April 2011, 22:21

car looks so good on track man!

and I agree with Olly on that last comment

#529 5th April 2011, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Is that a fellow standard towing eye i spot?

Hell yeah, no need for these other fancy ones tbh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tufty

well done mate, glad all went well

Thanks buddy, went well, i was so proud of the little mango!

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeumH

Car looked to go well today mate. You had a few flames through hall bends on a couple of occasions too.

Think the only shedders I spoke to were Dan and Ash - didn't manage to bump into you.

You werent standing with us by halls bend when it was raining were you? i was wearing a blue hoodie and a grey bench coat...

Its always popped and banged since the proper BTB exhaust went on, its awesome haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

enjoy it at cadwell yesterday then jp? I'd like to do cadwell but iv heard from loads it's just a really fast track and with me still being a beginner I'm unsure man

You should definitely do it mate, as per text id recommend you do a track with plenty of run off first until youve had a decent few track days then do cadwell, as theres minimal run off in certain parts of the track!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshB

Hope you had a good day out JP, cars looks right at home

Have a chat with Stew (sexy_gt), he practically lives at Cadwell!

Yeah i watched a few videos of his, he should try some other tracks, theres more than 1 decent track in the UK lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olly

Awesome day yesterday, really smashing round on the last session!

Think the engine is perfect for road based track car, not too intrusive on the road and nice bark on track.

Glad you enjoyed it Olly! Not bad for £5 and a mcdonalds haha

I was happy with the progress over the day, like you say really had the whole track hooked up by the afternoon. Funniest comment of the day after the mammoth first 50mins session was "that was the quickest installation laps ive ever been on" haha!

Engine should sound even better once i rip the sound deadening out from behind the dash

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

car looks so good on track man!

and I agree with Olly on that last comment

I agree with the engine comments, my need for more power is killing me now though, so may have to go crazy on it this time next year

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#530 5th April 2011, 18:30

jp get on the power hike bandwagon man... you imagine how quick our little rockets will be with an extra 40-50-150hp
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#531 5th April 2011, 18:38

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Originally Posted by dannygti

good stuff josh, glad you had a good day. would like to do cadwell when i get back from the ring..

You definitely should danny, your car with that new engine will rip everything up around there mate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krys_23

Loving the car, buckets look awesome, what type are they?

They are kevlar cobra suzukas mate, really nice seats tbh, im really pleased with them, no problems even when driving all the way to the ring

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#532 5th April 2011, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

jp get on the power hike bandwagon man... you imagine how quick our little rockets will be with an extra 40-50-150hp

Even with my engine i was keeping or pulling away from near enough everything there on the day, even the caterhams werent quicker than me down the straights which was suprising. Matts 200bhp 205 was near enough the quickest on the day, even kept up with the ultra lol

I was on the power so early though with my suspension/gearbox set up. Was really pleased with the whole car chassis wise, brakes are great now with the larger servo and MC as well

#533 5th April 2011, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Even with my engine i was keeping or pulling away from near enough everything there on the day, even the caterhams werent quicker than me down the straights which was suprising. Matts 200bhp 205 was near enough the quickest on the day, even kept up with the ultra lol

I was on the power so early though with my suspension/gearbox set up. Was really pleased with the whole car chassis wise, brakes are great now with the larger servo and MC as well

glad the servo feels better, kinda new it would sort it out, and its another job done aint it.

now you have done cadwell, take another look at tams vid with the s/c ax.. imagine if you had that sort of power lol... how MUCH quicker that youd be.

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#534 5th April 2011, 18:55

hehehehehehe (evil laugh) i just watched it, fuck me!
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#535 5th April 2011, 18:59

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

hehehehehehe (evil laugh) i just watched it, fuck me!

now you have some enthusiasm get ordering those boost bits lol
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#536 5th April 2011, 19:07

IF (big if) i get back out to oz and start earning good cash again im pretty sure im going to stay NA, bite the bullet and go for 200+bhp with a full sandy build, should keep me up with near enough everything on nearly all the UK tracks
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#537 5th April 2011, 19:11

you dont need to be spending crazy dosh to get decent grunt out of it.

Youve got the pistons, just go for a wilder cam and remap init.

200BHP NA is good but wont keep up with alot if you go on some of the days I have people organising. They have GT3 RS's and CGTs and know how to use them, which is why im not booking up sillystone with them haha

#538 5th April 2011, 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

IF (big if) i get back out to oz and start earning good cash again im pretty sure im going to stay NA, bite the bullet and go for 200+bhp with a full sandy build, should keep me up with near enough everything on nearly all the UK tracks

sounds good mate, hope it gets done

if and when it happens we'll have to get some trackdays booked up together and show people what these tin cans are made of

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#539 5th April 2011, 19:15

Haha, missed the sighting laps, never been round before and not trying to hold anyone up, lol.

Engine plans are sweet.

#540 5th April 2011, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

you dont need to be spending crazy dosh to get decent grunt out of it.

Youve got the pistons, just go for a wilder cam and remap init.

200BHP NA is good but wont keep up with alot if you go on some of the days I have people organising. They have GT3 RS's and CGTs and know how to use them, which is why im not booking up sillystone with them haha

Silverstone is definitely a high power circuit, but tbh if i can get 200+bhp, that will give me 250bhp per ton, theres not that many cars knocking around with that sort of power on your normal run of the mill track day. So should be more than enough for my capabilities as a driver.

Danny - sounds like a plan mate!

Olly - haha, was a cracking day. Cant wait for Donnington!

#541 5th April 2011, 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

BHP per tonne doesnt really matter too much when you are not doing low speed corners. A 3 tonne car with 600bhp will probably have sooo much more torque to just piss on us with ease on every circuit where the corners flow at high speed.

Cadwells tight though, perfect for hatches.

#542 6th April 2011, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

Not necessarily as its all relevent to weight again, if my car has 150lb ft of torque for example, but only weights 825kgs, that means something that weights 2 ton will need over 350lb ft of torque to have the equivalent torque, if that makes sense. Plus especially around tight circuits our little hatches can get on the power so much earlier in the corner it wont matter anyway.

Tbh theres only 3 or 4 high speed circuits in the UK, where as tight circuits your looking at 20-30 easily

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#543 6th April 2011, 17:36

josh have you weighed your car lately then?
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#544 6th April 2011, 17:46

No Tom, but with sound deadening removed behind the dash, carbon boot and bonnet on id imagine 825 should be easily achiveable

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#545 6th April 2011, 17:53

yeah i would have thought so too mate in all honesty so ave you got the boot and bonet on then now?
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#546 6th April 2011, 17:58

No bonnet im trying to sort something as no one makes them now. Boot i have but its not road legal, needs some lighting for the number plate so i will be modifying that after easter prob and get that fitted.

Dash will be coming out at easter for spraying the interior if the weathers good
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#547 8th April 2011, 15:47

New camera to capture footage on my next track day...
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#548 8th April 2011, 19:50

i have one of those, instructions were all but in english

good quality for the price though
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#549 8th April 2011, 20:44

Charge = USB
Start video = button 1
Stop button = button 2

Not that hard chris lol

Awesome quality though from the videos @ cadwell. Ill try it out at Donnington on the 23rd May

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#550 8th April 2011, 23:37

then you have to hold one of them to switch between video and pictures etc etc

i blu tacced mine on the dash, above the dials stayed there too, even the wing mirror when i went for a short blip at 60/70
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#551 9th April 2011, 00:19

Yeah I've been told that's the best way. Will see what happens
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#552 19th April 2011, 20:24

Strippage from today....

Started like this

Half way through

Finished like this for today

And popped my new tax disk holder on as well
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#553 19th April 2011, 20:37

Please tell me the carpet is being re-fitted...............
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#554 19th April 2011, 20:57

It is being refitted James. Only came out to remove sound deadening, tar and paint the interior. Then going back in, just going to cut the flap off at the back so it looks tidier
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#555 19th April 2011, 21:13

get some apc through a foaming lance and jet wash that mo fo carpet josh!!!!
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#556 19th April 2011, 21:30

Love it mate. Im trying to catch you up with my mango build.Haha will take me time Hopefully have two mango s's on track

#557 19th April 2011, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

It is being refitted James. Only came out to remove sound deadening, tar and paint the interior. Then going back in, just going to cut the flap off at the back so it looks tidier

Very good news.....im happy again now.

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#558 20th April 2011, 07:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

get some apc through a foaming lance and jet wash that mo fo carpet josh!!!!

Not round lauras anytime soon so I can borrow yours are you? Chances are carpet won't be going back in for another week or so!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangojace

Love it mate. Im trying to catch you up with my mango build.Haha will take me time Hopefully have two mango s's on track

Haha good luck with that mate, 2 mangos would be epic

Quote:

Originally Posted by J222JRA

Very good news.....im happy again now.

Lol James, I thought you would know me better than that to think I might take the carpet out!
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#559 20th April 2011, 08:14

Love the progress. Always been an inspiration!
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#560 20th April 2011, 15:59

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Originally Posted by MR_N

Love the progress. Always been an inspiration!

Cheers dude, I'm getting there...
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#561 20th April 2011, 16:07

see i would do this....but i would be fucked getting all those wires back in the right places...
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#562 20th April 2011, 17:38

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Originally Posted by jayyoung

see i would do this....but i would be fucked getting all those wires back in the right places...

Take plenty of pictures before you start
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#563 20th April 2011, 18:54

Really like the cage in this. Decided on the future plans engine wise?
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#564 20th April 2011, 19:55

Paint it and leave it out the carpet has a good amount of weight!!!
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#565 20th April 2011, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Paint it and leave it out the carpet has a good amount of weight!!!

He has plenty of power to make up for it.

kEEP THE CARPET. lol
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#566 20th April 2011, 22:27

Carpet is definitely staying Its not like id notice the 3kg id save by leaving the carpet out anyway! May replace it with lightweight carpet some point in the future though
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#567 20th April 2011, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Really like the cage in this. Decided on the future plans engine wise?

Depends how things go with my visa and how things go work wise once im back out in oz tbh (if i get the visa). Either full rebuild with over 200+ bhp NA, or lob a new sandy head with 734 cams in onto my bottom end and aim for 190/195bhp NA

#568 21st April 2011, 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Depends how things go with my visa and how things go work wise once im back out in oz tbh (if i get the visa). Either full rebuild with over 200+ bhp NA, or lob a new sandy head with 734 cams in onto my bottom end and aim for 190/195bhp NA

Sounds good

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#569 21st April 2011, 10:15

I am up there on sunday mate so i can pop it over then if you like then I will need it back the same do so maybe do it sunday morning and leave to dry?
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#570 21st April 2011, 16:21

get that top lot of sound deadening out
remember if you do need a hand refitting im always here
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#571 21st April 2011, 21:15

Tom - mrs gets here from Fiji on Sunday morning so not a good day really mate, could you leave it with me until your next round lauras and pick it up then?
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#572 21st April 2011, 23:06

I can bring it next Thursday evening and get it back on Sunday ?
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#573 21st April 2011, 23:07

mango mango man who wants be a tanned mango man
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#574 21st April 2011, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

mango mango man who wants be a tanned mango man

Lol, I'm not joking, I've just come inside 11:30pm, from finishing working on the car!

Perfect Tom, gives me a perfect excuse to take my time at spraying the interior and cutting the dash etc and any other bits and bobs I can do before fitting the carpet drop me a message on weds to remind me
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#575 21st April 2011, 23:57

looks sweet mate, having a bash at the sraying your self then? what spray gun have you got? also a little thing might be worth as your props doing it on the drive? add some rocket to the clear coat speeds up dry time

#576 22nd April 2011, 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

looks sweet mate, having a bash at the sraying your self then? what spray gun have you got? also a little thing might be worth as your props doing it on the drive? add some rocket to the clear coat speeds up dry time

Okie dokie cheers for the tip mate, should dry pretty quick as it's going to be mid 20's here tomorrow

Car is pretty much ready for spraying tomorrow...

And all sanded down as well...

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#577 22nd April 2011, 20:56

well more the touch dry time, so even with it been 20c.. and tbh minimum u shud spray in is 23c and then bake it at 65c... its pretty chill as far as painting go's lol. get some pics up once its done though.... one other thing might help you, if u have an old car rad fan stick it on a battery charger and place it near the car and shud suck all the misty shit away stop u choking.
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#578 22nd April 2011, 23:49

Just noticed youve got the same cage as me!! i also want to have the rear 'X' bars as they dont come with the cage, where did you get the steel and does it have to be the same chromology stuff as the cage?????? cheers

#579 23rd April 2011, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by miamibluebaby

Just noticed youve got the same cage as me!! i also want to have the rear 'X' bars as they dont come with the cage, where did you get the steel and does it have to be the same chromology stuff as the cage?????? cheers

Yeah the additions are all in chromoly as well mate. The guy who did my cage (Matt Newton) got it for me

Latest pics, taken me all day to mask off the cage, roof, doors, windows and front of the car, what a bitch!

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#580 23rd April 2011, 18:29

masking paper, 18inch roll 6quid or 36inch roll 12quid

looks sweet though mate, when he did the welding for u, did he tig or mig weld it? looks mig?

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#581 23rd April 2011, 18:38

Fack!! effort an a half there!! will look good though worth the effort now!!
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#582 23rd April 2011, 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

masking paper, 18inch roll 6quid or 36inch roll 12quid

looks sweet though mate, when he did the welding for u, did he tig or mig weld it? looks mig?

News paper if free, as is all the tape from work lol

Not sure on what he used, he does it for a living so he's pretty good!

Ready for spraying tomorrow afternoon now
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#583 23rd April 2011, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by miamibluebaby

Fack!! effort an a half there!! will look good though worth the effort now!!

Thanks buddy, it's taken me about 5 days and 50hours of work to get to this stage, about 15 of those were removing the bloody rear seat brackets!
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#584 24th April 2011, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Thanks buddy, it's taken me about 5 days and 50hours of work to get to this stage, about 15 of those were removing the bloody rear seat brackets!

i need to crack on and remove mine, is it just a case of drilling the spot welds??

got some nice carbon covers once there out
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#585 24th April 2011, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by miamibluebaby

i need to crack on and remove mine, is it just a case of drilling the spot welds??

got some nice carbon covers once there out

Yeah you can do it that way but I'm a fussy bugger, so drilled most of it then carefully grinded the rest off. Then once the brackets were off filled in the holes with a touch of weld and flatted it off, its not the neatest job I've ever done but it's certainly much better than having holes everywhere
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#586 24th April 2011, 13:07

Bet that took a while to get ready for paint lol

Might have missed it somewhere in the thread but what colour is the cage going to be?
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#587 24th April 2011, 17:21

Get it painted whilst the weather is good......
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#588 25th April 2011, 18:05
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#589 25th April 2011, 18:07

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Thats a really nice job there josh, when can i book mine in?
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#590 25th April 2011, 18:08

Wow, that looks great!
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#591 25th April 2011, 18:24

Looks good man, shame the carpet going back in!!!
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#592 25th April 2011, 18:41

looks sweet mate cage gona be black?

p.s i wont your both
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#593 25th April 2011, 21:09

wow nice one josh what colour is the cage going to be?
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#594 25th April 2011, 21:17

nice mate nice engine bay
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#595 25th April 2011, 21:57

We did our best for a "on-the-front-drive" jobbie lads, there's a couple of runs and a couple of bits where it's reacted but it's the best we could have done so I'm happy with it

Mark - yeah swap you for your set up mate haha

Tufty - no chance am I doing another one, you wouldn't believe the amount of hours of prep work that have gone into this lol

Mark & Tom - yeah cage is going gloss black, I'm thinking once my new dash is cut I'll send it to get flocked, what do you reckon? As at cadwell I was getting some glare off the dash!

#596 25th April 2011, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

We did our best for a "on-the-front-drive" jobbie lads, there's a couple of runs and a couple of bits where it's reacted but it's the best we could have done so I'm happy with it

Mark - yeah swap you for your set up mate haha

Tufty - no chance am I doing another one, you wouldn't believe the amount of hours of prep work that have gone into this lol

Mark & Tom - yeah cage is going gloss black, I'm thinking once my new dash is cut I'll send it to get flocked, what do you reckon? As at cadwell I was getting some glare off the dash!

haha, very true, preparation is mad! If you are getting glare then i really would get the dash flocked, not overly priced and will be a good addition!

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#597 25th April 2011, 22:32

yer the prep works a pain in arse, insides especiali as its not straight or mooth anywhere, da's good with a form pad to push in abit more, also mini 3" da's are good also the foam backed sand papers good. looks good though mate
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#598 25th April 2011, 23:49

awsom josh,so makes me wanna do mine again now lol

grate to see another job done right

people dont seem o realise how long it all takes - i think if we actually knew how much time and money "moddifying" would take we would not do it,but hay ive met some awsom mates and lots of fun and experience comes with it all imo

super job
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#599 26th April 2011, 00:29

top job there boss! looks ace! as said...shame the carpet is going back in....
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#600 26th April 2011, 08:59

Yer dig spraying fun I just done my engine bay.. Plus to fact I can't stand waiting to it to dry!

Is it cone to Fcs? I can't remember if you said you was or not?
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#601 26th April 2011, 16:03

Looks sooooo much better in person aswell..... Mango man, mango man does whatever a mango man does lol
Awesome bro

#602 26th April 2011, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tufty

haha, very true, preparation is mad! If you are getting glare then i really would get the dash flocked, not overly priced and will be a good addition!

Yeah it was mad prep, the masking for the cage spraying has been near enough as bad lol!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

yer the prep works a pain in arse, insides especiali as its not straight or mooth anywhere, da's good with a form pad to push in abit more, also mini 3" da's are good also the foam backed sand papers good. looks good though mate

You can tell me that again, I can see why body shops charge so much now!

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

awsom josh,so makes me wanna do mine again now

lol

grate to see another job done right

people dont seem o realise how long it all takes - i think if we actually knew how much time and money "moddifying" would take we would not do it,but hay ive met some awsom mates and lots of fun and experience comes with it all imo

super job

cheers Chris, it's so true mate, but like you say... Made so many good friends through doing it, and keeps us off the streets as they say lol. Get well soon bud

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayyoung

top job there boss!

looks ace! as said...shame the carpet is going back in....

Cheers buddy, not a shame, just means I'll not get cold feet or wreck my new paintwork at the front

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Yer dig spraying fun I just done my engine bay.. Plus to fact I can't stand waiting to it to dry!

Is it cone to Fcs? I can't remember if you said you was or not?

Yeah will be coming fcs mate

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#603 26th April 2011, 21:14

Impressed.....looks good, keep it up!!
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#604 26th April 2011, 21:22

More masking for spraying the cage tomorrow...
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#605 26th April 2011, 21:28

Sweeeeet mate cant wait to see the results
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#606 26th April 2011, 21:30

looks good mate. using base and clear or 2k on the cage?
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#607 27th April 2011, 09:03

Cool Colin, hopefully see you on sat

Mark - nah gonna carefully rattle can the cage, see how it comes out, mainly because of all the tight angles etc it's basically impossible to do with the spray gun, well the equipment we have anyway
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#608 27th April 2011, 10:18

looking good mate!!

defo be ready for the weekend yea??
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#609 27th April 2011, 12:12

cages are a pain in arse to spray tbh, if its a weld in i tend to jus do it all the same colour or, do cage 1st then rub down the over spray mask the cage up then spray rest, should look sweet anyways mate
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#610 27th April 2011, 13:39

Sprayed the cage this morn as it's nice and sunny, looks awesome!!!!

Lea - hopefully mate, if weathers good tomorrow and Friday then I'll easily get it done

So plan now:-

Remove all masking tonight
Fit loom & carpet tomorrow morning
Start cutting up the new dash to fit around the cage & fit that tomorrow
Fit all little bits and bobs, harnesses, seats etc on Friday
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#611 27th April 2011, 19:42
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#612 27th April 2011, 19:44

That looks hot! Nice work buddy. The spray tent did make me giggle, reminds me of the days you did the bay the same way.
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#613 27th April 2011, 20:38

Looks sweet josh!
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#614 27th April 2011, 22:12

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET looks really good nice one josh top job did you do that bit with s spray gun also?
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#615 27th April 2011, 23:20

that looks awesome now Josh top work mate!!!
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#616 27th April 2011, 23:37

Do really like this car. Cage looks awesome
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#617 27th April 2011, 23:53

rather nice there sir
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#618 28th April 2011, 09:27

Making some great progress on the interior mate, masking and prep is such a ball ache but the results are great. Will look forward to having a nosey round it again soon
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#619 28th April 2011, 22:01

Thanks for all the comments lads,

Tom - nah cage was rattle canned, interior was sprayed using the gun, oh and the 106 was looking good tonight

Mr_n - lol! That was a home made jobbie all those years back, this is a proper gazebo lol

Willsy - yeah will be good to catch up mate, it's been too long! I'll let you know next time were down the pub
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#620 28th April 2011, 22:36

Mango's are full of WIN Yours is just the best though
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#621 28th April 2011, 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangojace

Mango's are full of WIN Yours is just the best though

Ah I dunno mate I'm sure there is some better mangos out there somewhere, but yes I do agree mangos are full of win

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#622 2nd May 2011, 22:12

Few nearly complete pictures...

And a couple of pics from Bolton Abbey meet

Oh and a trophy
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#623 2nd May 2011, 22:22

Looking good!

You need some inner rear quarter panel covers though.
Some carbon ones will do nicely
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#624 2nd May 2011, 22:24

well done with the trophy! well deserved
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#625 2nd May 2011, 22:29

looks lovely
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#626 2nd May 2011, 22:31

looks really good mate, love how u just manage to have one of your other trophys just to the side.... do you eva go to these events and not win everything
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#627 2nd May 2011, 22:55

saw this at bolton abbey it is very nice and sounds awesome
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#628 3rd May 2011, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drago

Looking good!

You need some inner rear quarter panel covers though.
Some carbon ones will do nicely

Thought about getting some of those but tbh it's just another thing that vibrates so will annoy me eventually

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

looks lovely

Cheers Gav

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick_j_r

well done with the trophy! well deserved

Thanks nick, means alot

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

looks really good mate, love how u just manage to have one of your other trophys just to the side.... do you eva go to these events and not win everything

Haha I put it next to my other trophy mark

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybluevtr

saw this at bolton abbey it is very nice and sounds awesome

thanks buddy, which one was yours?
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#629 3rd May 2011, 17:29

as said the weekend josh, car looking VERY VERY neat.

cant wait to get some trackdays in with you asap.
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#630 3rd May 2011, 17:39

very mich deserved trophy! love this car!

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#631 3rd May 2011, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

as said the weekend josh, car looking VERY VERY neat.

cant wait to get some trackdays in with you asap.

Thanks buddy, means ALOT coming from you

Will be awesome taking down much "bigger" cars on some track days, my next one is at Donnington 23rd may with lea, Matt & Olly. After that I'll prob do the 3 hour open pit @ fcs & then ring. After that I'm not sure what I'll be doing but I'll let you know if and when I decide to do another day mate
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#632 3rd May 2011, 18:42

Just make sure the 8v stock hatch saxo's don't overtake you!
That WOULD be embarrassing!
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#633 3rd May 2011, 18:52

dude i love your car, its just perfect lol

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#634 3rd May 2011, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Just make sure the 8v stock hatch saxo's don't overtake you!
That WOULD be embarrassing!

Haha very true, had fun embarasing a couple of clio 200's and a brand new corsa vxr on the way home from the meet lol!

Quote:

Originally Posted by twist

dude i love your car, its just perfect lol

Thanks buddy, where are you in Leicester?
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#635 3rd May 2011, 20:48

Reason i say that is i was embarrassed for most of the day at Brands Hatch till the last hour or so once i'd got the hang of it! Actually they were still faster than me then! I'll blame it on the fact they have a roll cage

Them corsa vxr's are a load of wank tbh. The clio's are brilliant though but either the drivers don't want to crash them or they can't drive them as everyone i've come across has suffered

How is your spare wheel held in btw?

#636 3rd May 2011, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Reason i say that is i was embarrassed for most of the day at Brands Hatch till the last hour or so once i'd got the hang of it! Actually they were still faster than me then! I'll blame it on the fact they have a roll cage

Them corsa vxr's are a load of wank tbh. The clio's are brilliant though but either the drivers don't want to crash them or they can't drive them as everyone i've come across has suffered

How is your spare wheel held in btw?

Yeah the clio 200's are good, I prefer the look of the 197's though tbh!

It's a 3 point trs spare wheel harness mate

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#637 3rd May 2011, 21:35

I know what you mean. The front end on the 200 isn't as nice but the gloss diffusers look better than the 197's matte one's.

I will own an RS clio of some variety one day. Test drove a 200 and loved it!

Where does the strap attach to?
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#638 3rd May 2011, 21:50

car looked the bussiness at the meet mate cant get over the roof man love it and like danny said it sounded mean as when you came in, have you got a btb system on it? and cheers for showing me how the kms unit worked mate gives me a better idea of where it should be at when i put the engine back in

#639 3rd May 2011, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Haha very true, had fun embarasing a couple of clio 200's and a brand new corsa vxr on the way home from the meet lol!

Thanks buddy, where are you in Leicester?

place called birstall if you've heard of it?

#640 4th May 2011, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

I know what you mean. The front end on the 200 isn't as nice but the gloss diffusers look better than the 197's matte one's.

I will own an RS clio of some variety one day. Test drove a 200 and loved it!

Where does the strap attach to?

It attaches to two harness type buckets and I've clipped that into 2 eye bolts, pm me and I'll take a picture for you mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by rorz_vts

car looked the bussiness at the meet mate cant get over the roof man love it and like danny said it sounded mean as when you came in, have you got a btb system on it? and cheers for showing me how the kms unit worked mate gives me a better idea of where it should be at when i put the engine back in

Yeah it's a BTB full system including BTB 4-1 manifold! Basically the kms (if mapped correctly) should have a target value of 14.7 for the wideband, therefore when your driving along and keep it on the same load you will see the wideband adjusting the fueling towards that 14.7 target, then after you've driven it a few hundred miles connect the kms up to the laptop, download the wideband "corrections" onto the map and so on and so on. In theory it should keep the map as close to the ideal fueling as possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by twist

place called birstall if you've heard of it?

Yeah I've heard of that mate, I'm over towards Market bosworth mate

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#641 4th May 2011, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Yeah I've heard of that mate, I'm over towards Market bosworth mate

ah right cool, i go there now and again, can't say ive spotted you yet though
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#642 10th May 2011, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by twist

ah right cool, i go there now and again, can't say ive spotted you yet though

Sorry mate only just seen this, you wont have seen it anyway as i dont drive it all the time,just to the odd track day and on a nice sat/sunday

You going to fcs?
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#643 10th May 2011, 22:51

oh and I really like this picture taken on the way to the Bolton abbey meet

#644 14th May 2011, 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Sorry mate only just seen this, you wont have seen it anyway as i dont drive it all the time,just to the odd track day and on a nice sat/sunday

You going to fcs?

i am indeed i received my tickets the other day as can be seen in my thread

lol

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#645 14th May 2011, 19:08

that pic is shexai
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#646 25th May 2011, 22:18

Quick update:

Went to Donnington park for another track day on Monday

Few pics curtesy of Alex

Also before Donny I changed my manifold for a stainless steel piper which had a couple of cracks and dents but Lea is on the case sorting it for me - big thanks mate!

Crack in the weld under florescent paint...

And he got some of his work mates (who weld to aerospace spec) to sort it...

Also cut my dash fans so they fit due to the cage running close behind them...

That's it for now... More to come before fcs!
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#647 26th May 2011, 09:23

Looking good dude, how did it go at donny? Car hold up well?
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#648 26th May 2011, 10:27

Looking good dude, how did it go at donny? Car hold up well?
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#649 26th May 2011, 10:30

Josh ill go through and find think i got a video on my phone too off the pit wall

And was gunna pop the link up but guess you saw it haha
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#650 26th May 2011, 10:31

And on another note it may be worth getting the vtr alternator brackets with the piper manifold so it doesnt melt it
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#651 26th May 2011, 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Looking good dude, how did it go at donny? Car hold up well?

Really well mate, was quicker than the majority of stuff over the whole lap, even though some didn't intend on making it easy at letting me past lol!

Couple of the guys in the porsches said they were watching me and that my car looked quick and really well balanced which was good to hear

Things got a bit hairy on well worn r888's in the wet in the afternoon, all good fun though
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#652 26th May 2011, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

And on another note it may be worth getting the vtr alternator brackets with the piper manifold so it doesnt melt it

It's the same as the BTB and that was fine buddy and yeah definitely put up that video mate, hope you enjoyed your passenger ride, I couldn't hear half the stuff you were saying whilst in the car lol
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#653 27th May 2011, 22:37

super mango man
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#654 27th May 2011, 22:49

Get ready to be detailed ho!

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#655 28th May 2011, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

Get ready to be detailed ho!
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#656 28th May 2011, 16:53

Looking good

Just over 4 weeks to go before another thrashing
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#657 28th May 2011, 17:14

Berg my sig shows exactly haha

And josh its quiet compared to mine
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#658 28th May 2011, 18:29

you whore un cleaned car FTW!!!
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#659 28th May 2011, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

Looking good

Just over 4 weeks to go before another thrashing

Nah mate got a 3hour open pit @ rockingham fcs in a week, then the ring

Andy - clean car ftw!

Alex - certainly is!
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#660 29th May 2011, 12:39

Few pic's after Tom came and whored it up for fcs

More to come over the next week as its half term so got the week off
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#661 29th May 2011, 13:05

GLAD you enjoyed the detail mate car looks awesome now mate really complete can not wait for some rock our socks off now
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#662 29th May 2011, 16:15

that looks fucking awesome mate
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#663 29th May 2011, 17:02

Looks immense Josh best mango by far
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#664 30th May 2011, 19:31

Looks mint Josh!
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#665 30th May 2011, 21:06

Swwwweeettt mango and carbon yum
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#666 30th May 2011, 21:50

said it once and ill say it again this cars awesome especially with a good clean
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#667 31st May 2011, 13:15

That interior shot does rock!!!

Enjoying the week off?
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#668 31st May 2011, 13:21

That does look proper tidy Josh I will say - veeeeeeery nice! My only criticism would be that you should buy some proper roll cage padding and fix it on using cable ties as it looks a lot neater thatn tape, otherwise perfect!
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#669 31st May 2011, 14:23

As above interior looks ace, defo my favourite bit.
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#670 1st June 2011, 12:02

Thanks for all the comments lads!

Lewis - it is proper cage padding, just the slim version as the A pillars, the bar that goes across the top of the window screen and the bar that goes across the roof on the B pillar loop are all very close to the bodywork so the thicker stuff wouldn't fit. Also I disagree about zip ties looking better, but everyone has there own opinions and that's cool mate I'm always happy to hear other peoples opinions on how to improve it

Yeah Olly weeks off are always good, especially before fcs. Couple more pics...

My BTB manifold had seen better days so I replaced it with a stainless 4-1 piper, Lea kindly welded a crack on it (pics on last page), dad then wrapped it for me and sprayed it with black high temp paint as that worked well on sealing the BTB

Also painted my cam covers in 2 pack mango
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#671 1st June 2011, 12:09

agree with you josh, tape looks better than cable ties... you dont have that bulky thing on there then..and you dont have to wrap it too tight.

looking spanky anyway

#672 2nd June 2011, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

agree with you josh, tape looks better than cable ties... you dont have that bulky thing on there then..and you dont have to wrap it too tight.

looking spanky anyway

Yeah, I don't know why, I just think cable ties look abit temporary that's all!

It's near enough back together for its appearance on the PFC stand @ fcs

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#673 2nd June 2011, 10:08

This is absolutely awesome mate
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#674 4th June 2011, 17:45

Well the cars all ready for fcs

Although after a quick run out I think the clutch is going.... I'll still do the 3 hour session although I wouldn't be suprised if it breaks while out on track and just get it towed home lol
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#675 4th June 2011, 20:30

Brave man! Just like I would do!
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#676 4th June 2011, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin_172

Brave man! Just like I would do!

Of course mate

#677 4th June 2011, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Yeah, I don't know why, I just think cable ties look abit temporary that's all!

It's near enough back together for its appearance on the PFC stand @ fcs

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sweet you use gas mark 2 or 3 to bake them at?

personali use slow cook

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#678 4th June 2011, 23:20

Must be the time of year! Alexb's, yours and now mine's on its way...

Damn valeo's are krap!
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#679 5th June 2011, 15:12

It died this morning hence not being @ fcs, was really looking forward to it as well, convoy & being on the PFC stand would have been good, at least I still got to abuse sam's xsi on track for a few hours, was funny killing a few clio cups and keeping up with a couple of megane R26's in a 1.4 lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Must be the time of year! Alexb's, yours and now mine's on its way...

Damn valeo's are krap!

I know mate it's annoying, to be far mine has done over 10 track days & 4 ring trips and lasted 5 years so i can't really complain
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#680 5th June 2011, 18:49

Seeing as my car didn't make it today I guess I can put these pics up...

Mmmmm carbon
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#681 5th June 2011, 19:05

thats ridiculous.....ly awesome! fucking sweet that mate! Have you got a target weight in mind?

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#682 5th June 2011, 19:12

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Originally Posted by jayyoung

thats ridiculous.....ly awesome! fucking sweet that mate! Have you got a target weight in mind?

Anything under 800kg would be nice, as with 200bhp that would give me 250bhp per ton

Need to get a bonnet done somewhere next
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#683 5th June 2011, 19:16

I think with all that carbon you may have to wrap the bumpstrips as the black looks a lil out of place now.
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#684 5th June 2011, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Anything under 800kg would be nice, as with 200bhp that would give me 250bhp per ton

Need to get a bonnet done somewhere next

That would be nice!!!!!!!

When you say get it done somewhere, does that mean you didn't just buy the boot? Did you get a mould n stuff done of it?!
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#685 5th June 2011, 21:16

I was gutted you didn't make it today, really looking forward to seeing it!!! What colour and shape xsi were you driving round the track?
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#686 5th June 2011, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon0014

I was gutted you didn't make it today, really looking forward to seeing it!!! What colour and shape xsi were you driving round the track?

It was the s1 blue one with the black roof with black wheels, I only drove it in the morning (until the open pit finished @ 1:15) and according to form it was on 3 wheels through the first chicane every time haha!

I was gutted as well mate, whats even more annoying is its the first time ive been in the UK in june for 3 years, and it could be 2013 until im next in the UK for fcs

Jay - haha, nah I got the boot from bic @ streamline carbon, but no where makes the mark 1 saxo bonnet in CF so need to find somewhere or sort a group buy to make it worthwile to make the mould!

Joe - I know what you mean mate lol
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#687 5th June 2011, 21:57

and drive it you did josh fuck me that car felt so planted and quick! that R26 wasnt getting away!

#688 5th June 2011, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

It was the s1 blue one with the black roof with black wheels, I only drove it in the morning (until the open pit finished @ 1:15) and according to form it was on 3 wheels through the first chicane every time haha!

I was gutted as well mate, whats even more annoying is its the first time ive been in the UK in june for 3 years, and it could be 2013 until im next in the UK for fcs

Jay - haha, nah I got the boot from bic @ streamline carbon, but no where makes the mark 1 saxo bonnet in CF so need to find somewhere or sort a group buy to make it worthwile to make the mould!

Joe - I know what you mean mate lol

yeah i did see you then, i was thinking damn that guy is giving it his all in the 106 haha. Would have been sweet to see the mango go round!!!

Ahh man thats shit about the location thing. Hopefully you will be here next year and i'll have mine on the road by then

At least try and blag the week off to come back haha

#689 5th June 2011, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon0014

At least try and blag the week off to come back haha

haha i might have to, really enjoyed myself today tbh!

Yeah mango would have gone well around there considering it has another 60bhp and a better suspension set up compared to my brother xsi, it still goes pretty well for a 1.4 though doesnt it

Tom - Damn right, we were just clinging to it for a while then we started catching it i couldnt believe it haha

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#690 5th June 2011, 23:30

josh i felt for you today i realy did,its crap when they break man

on the other hand was amazed how the xsi 1.4 went round.....yes the 20 min i went out we passed like 2 clios and almost kept up with another.

your driving is in pressive i need lessons kidda

tom-cheers for my laps also i realy enjoyed it,shame about the bearing but like you say at least you could get home.

cheers lads was a awsom day THANKYOU

#691 6th June 2011, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

josh i felt for you today i realy did,its crap when they break man

on the other hand was amazed how the xsi 1.4 went round.....yes the 20 min i went out we passed like 2 clios and almost kept up with another.

your driving is in pressive

i need lessons kidda

tom-cheers for my laps also i realy enjoyed it,shame about the bearing but like you say at least you could get home.

cheers lads was a awsom day THANKYOU

Yeah it's annoying when they break down but at least it didn't happen in Germany mate. And I still got to rape sam's xsi round track for a few hours so I enjoyed it, and glad you enjoyed the passenger ride mate

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#692 6th June 2011, 17:50

You guys are so lucky you and alexb. Somehow you've all managed to get your cars to the sort of level and power i've always wanted and its very annoying!

I will own a saxo/106 variant that will pants down rape the big boys in the next 5 years!

By that time you should all have your cars to about 1000bhp lol
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#693 6th June 2011, 21:42

my car proved yesterday at FCS you dont need a powerful car to keep up and even pass the big boys..... anyone who passengered with me or josh will tell you driver abiltity is half the battle won.......

i think a cammed VTS with good brakes and suspension with a good driver would be as quick if not quicker than anything i saw out there all day..... except for colin and deans turbo saxo's they were insane!!!
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#694 6th June 2011, 22:11

sam now we are talking your car felt so strong yesterday!
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#695 6th June 2011, 22:11

I vouch for sams comment (one above mine) everyone slates the 8v lumps but I didn't see many 16v's pull away yesterday unless bodied or cammed!

driver ability is half the battle won for sure. if you can drive and have a bigger power car then fair play tbh!
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#696 6th June 2011, 22:12

Hence my possible future play with a stock hatch spec saxo/106.
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#697 6th June 2011, 22:15

pretty much what I based my suspension setup on haha! fucking flies
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#698 6th June 2011, 22:17

What suspension as a general rule do they run? I know the regs but don't know the rough specs of their cars. PM me if you can mate as jp may get an ass on lol
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#699 6th June 2011, 23:11

Chat away lads its cool....

Agree with Sam, even though bigger powered stuff pulled away down the straights i pulled most of that back in the infield anyway

And yeah, no point in having shit loads of power, if you cant make the most of it then your much better spending your money on driver tuition than on more and more shizzle for the car

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#700 6th June 2011, 23:30

its really frustraiting when you see an awesome car driven by a tit... you see a lot of it on trackdays (especially car shows). as sams car shows.
even josh said at his last trackday hardly anything passed him.. imagine how quick these cars can be with a good driver and an awesome car lol.. hopefully josh can prove this even more so soon
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#701 6th June 2011, 23:40

jp you slut! im thinking of swapping cars.. letting you work on the clio and when your done swaping back! FOC OFC! looks awsome as always and all that CF!! mmmmmm

#702 9th June 2011, 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

its really frustraiting when you see an awesome car driven by a tit... you see a lot of it on trackdays (especially car shows). as sams car shows.
even josh said at his last trackday hardly anything passed him.. imagine how quick these cars can be with a good driver and an awesome car lol.. hopefully josh can prove this even more so soon

Yup I totally agree with you Danny - great post mate! Hopefully I can prove it even more in the future just need some more power next

kev - good to see you around bud and thanks for the nice comment...

Quick update, would seem I started to destroy 3rd gear at cadwell which then got progressively worse at donny.... Ah well... It should be all good for a rebuild as Tom (unreal) is kindly donating a 3rd gear and I'll replace the non-sealed bearings as the amount of metal running around inside the box was crazy - no wonder it was slow engaging gears!

Gearbox casing (luckily no damage to the diff)

And 3rd gear you can see has been completely stripped(inner ring, closest to the camera is supposed to have gears like the outer, larger one)...

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#703 9th June 2011, 08:06

Wowww thats some damage to the teeth on 3rd......quite an achievement that lol.

Good to meet you on sunday Josh.
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#704 9th June 2011, 08:33

Really wanted to see your car at Fcs, but have to wait til Germany now

Shame about tom's car he would of shown a few lads up around there.
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#705 9th June 2011, 12:56

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Originally Posted by J222JRA

Wowww thats some damage to the teeth on 3rd......quite an achievement that lol.

Good to meet you on sunday Josh.

You know me, all or nothing haha. Good to meet you as well James, even if it was only brief lol

Andy - you've already seen it when you collected your box while I was in Oz? Anyway was a shame, good to meet you in person anyway, ring is gonna be awesome
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#706 9th June 2011, 13:40

Na it was always covered up mate lol
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#707 9th June 2011, 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Na it was always covered up mate lol

Ah fair enough, you should have asked dad I'm sure he would have showed you mate

More broken bits lol
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#708 10th June 2011, 10:27

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Ah fair enough, you should have asked dad I'm sure he would have showed you mate

More broken bits lol

I hated stripping the MA gearbox down, all be it i had help doing it, but it was a right pain! Cannot believe the mess inside that box though. chocolate boxes!
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#709 10th June 2011, 11:06

Bit of bad news on the box Josh, but I guess its to be expected. How many miles has it covered since it was last put together?

Progress is great as always. Are you still planing things for the engine? I remember hearing a few rumours..
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#710 10th June 2011, 23:41

Love the attention to detail, definitely one of the best cars on this site. Need to have a proper look at it next time our paths cross.

Box doesn't look too healthy, especially considering you had the crown wheel and pinion swapped fairly recently too? Damn things must be made of cheese.

#711 11th June 2011, 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tufty

I hated stripping the MA gearbox down, all be it i had help doing it, but it was a right pain! Cannot believe the mess inside that box though. chocolate boxes!

Yeah it's annoying but ah well, it prob broke due to me giving it a hammering round track so far this year lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushy_23

Bit of bad news on the box Josh, but I guess its to be expected. How many miles has it covered since it was last put together?

Progress is great as always. Are you still planing things for the engine? I remember hearing a few rumours..

Only thing that was changed last time the box was open was the FD Rushy, box has covered about 30k in it's entire lifetime, And done about 8k since it's complete rebuild, when I say complete it even had a brand new gearset fitted and has extra strengthened parts on it as standard. In all the boxes we've referbed we've never seen a box like mine with all the extras lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeumH

Love the attention to detail, definitely one of the best cars on this site. Need to have a proper look at it next time our paths cross.

Box doesn't look too healthy, especially considering you had the crown wheel and pinion swapped fairly recently too? Damn things must be made of cheese.

As I said to Rushy (above) the only thing that was changed last time the box was apart from the FD, so all the other parts of the box have done 4 ring trips and approx 15+ track days so I'm suprised it's lasted this long tbh.

The great thing is the synceos and all the parts that "normally" wear are in great condition, but obviously at cadwell or Donnington I've rammed it in 3rd, broke or cracked a tooth and then it just gets worse and worse from then onwards, that tooths broke up making the oil dirty not allowing the syncros to do there job properly meaning it's slow into gear which then made me crunch it a few more times trying to get it in gear before a corner which has broken a few more teeth off 3rd making the box even slower into gear etc etc

Thanks for the comments btw lads

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#712 14th June 2011, 13:47

Epic dude, didn't klnow you'd gone for a carbon roof and lid! sweeeeeeeeet.

PS: Standard rear lights are your friend!
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#713 14th June 2011, 16:02

Fair play JP, you do get your fair share out of them in that beast!
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#714 14th June 2011, 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Epic dude, didn't klnow you'd gone for a carbon roof and lid! sweeeeeeeeet.

PS: Standard rear lights are your friend!

Lewis - you weren't looking very hard were you mate, I've had the roof over a year now lol

Totally agree with you on the rear lights as well mate, but mark 1 or mark 2?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tufty

Fair play JP, you do get your fair share out of them in that beast!

Well with any luck I'll be back in Oz from September so I thought I'd make the most of my time in the uk by abusing some tracks
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#715 14th June 2011, 22:31

jp has some trick gears yo! you won't break 3rd again!
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#716 14th June 2011, 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

jp has some trick gears yo! you won't break 3rd again!

Haha damn right Tom (cheers again mate!), I'll sure try and break it though
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#717 15th June 2011, 06:41

good stuff mate i will have a go at mine! trackday here we come! can't wait for the tb'd car the turbo car and mine to all be raping round track
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#718 15th June 2011, 10:31

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Originally Posted by unreal106

good stuff mate i will have a go at mine! trackday here we come! can't wait for the tb'd car the turbo car and mine to all be raping round track

Lol it sure will be fun, I'll watch you 2 come flying past down the straights lol
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#719 15th June 2011, 22:43

All ready to go back together now...

And valeo fiction plate, much much better than the LuK one I had on it before
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#720 21st June 2011, 23:44

Looks like the box served its purpose. And now rebuilt and re-ready to go.

Mk2 rears mate, will look more fresh.
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#721 22nd June 2011, 07:34

Cheers rush, I'll get on the case and see if I can get some before the ring next weekend!

Quick pic... I'll get more detailed ones tonight...
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#722 22nd June 2011, 10:29

Streamline boot? Nice.
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#723 22nd June 2011, 10:38

Looking good josh.

It better be seeing some awesome lap times in germany with all that carbon you've added!
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#724 22nd June 2011, 12:37

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

Streamline boot? Nice.

Yup yup, saves 17kg's all in over the standard boot with glass, so quite a good weight saving there. Just need a bonnet now... But no one makes them!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashleyp

Looking good josh.

It better be seeing some awesome lap times in germany with all that carbon you've added!

I'd hope so, I've managed to get a few track days in before the ring trip this year so sub 9mins should be possible again this year
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#725 22nd June 2011, 13:34

josh have you spoke to ccf about a bonnet? i would think that they would be able to do it a mk1 bonnet skin isnt that complex and they could bond a carbon skin to a fibreglass frame and you have your bonnet then. just an idea man

still tinted like a boss!
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#726 22nd June 2011, 15:01

sick sick sick car, love it!
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#727 22nd June 2011, 17:27

tanned mango man whats the news on real madrid? remind me must come up for pork pies and football again
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#728 22nd June 2011, 22:26

tints are for rude boys and pimps- just like josh!
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#729 23rd June 2011, 01:53

josh did you hear! my car made it to the ring, did 4 laps AND made it back again!

car is looking frickin awsome man you will like my updates next year i think
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#730 23rd June 2011, 11:46

Looking good mate, please put standard rear lights on though
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#731 23rd June 2011, 12:41

Josh this car keeps getting better and better. Way back when you had the feature you were running gti leathers. What was the reason to go down the buckets/cage route then? Just to do more track days etc?
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#732 23rd June 2011, 19:42

Looks mint Josh!!. Time to get rid of the glass???, you could still have your tints
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#733 23rd June 2011, 23:37

cabon bootlid looks sweeeeeeeeet, shame its so hard to get a MK1 bonnet to match, would really finish it off
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#734 24th June 2011, 08:55

Beginning bit of my username applies to this car!

Awesome!
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#735 24th June 2011, 10:39

I have left it in the capable hands of Josh to secure some orders and we will then get mk1 bonnets out into production, full pre preg carbon inside and out, around 3.5kg in weight

Looking good Josh

#736 25th June 2011, 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by webby

josh have you spoke to ccf about a bonnet? i would think that they would be able to do it a mk1 bonnet skin isnt that complex and they could bond a carbon skin to a fibreglass frame and you have your bonnet then. just an idea man

still tinted like a boss!

I have alread asked them about it, they can only do a badboy one which is gay tbh,

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayyoung

sick sick sick car, love it!

Cheers mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

tanned mango man

whats the news on real madrid? remind me must come up for pork pies and football again

Not tanned much now mate haha! General sale early July for real Madrid, I'll get you a ticket if you want? Pork pies haha!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

tints are for rude boys and pimps- just like josh!

Hahaha damn right mate, tints are pimp and stealthiness

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin_172

josh did you hear! my car made it to the ring, did 4 laps AND made it back again!

car is looking frickin awsome man

you will like my updates next year i think

It made it? Bloody hell kev! What will the updates??

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesyFX

Looking good mate, please put standard rear lights on though

That's the plan mate, Mark 1 or Mark 2 though is the question??

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

Josh this car keeps getting better and better. Way back when you had the feature you were running gti leathers. What was the reason to go down the buckets/cage route then? Just to do more track days etc?

Thanks mate, if you read the old PFC feature I said that I wanted to go down the track route back then because I enjoyed track days so much, so I guess Ive pretty much achieved that now

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsi16v

Looks mint Josh!!. Time to get rid of the glass???, you could still have your tints

It's tinted poly carb in the boot already mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by twist

cabon bootlid looks sweeeeeeeeet, shame its so hard to get a MK1 bonnet to match, would really finish it off

I know tell me about it, if you read bic's post below we only need 5 orders to make it happen so hopefully have one soon

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Beginning bit of my username applies to this car!

Awesome!

Haha, damn right

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicston

I have left it in the capable hands of Josh to secure some orders and we will then get mk1 bonnets out into production, full pre preg carbon inside and out, around 3.5kg in weight

Looking good Josh

Hopefully we will be able to make it happen Bic, a unique opportunity for Mark 1 Saxo owners to get a great quality bonnet!

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#737 25th June 2011, 22:34

Slightly pale mango man let me know on price date, time etc and I'll come up
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#738 26th June 2011, 12:08

30th July @ the walkers mate, tickets are £28 I think. Will be the second time in a year I've seen real play, last time was against LA galaxy in LA lol!
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#739 27th June 2011, 19:57

did you get it weighed today mate?
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#740 28th June 2011, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

did you get it weighed today mate?

Yeah I did mate, if people haven't seen the other thread my car currently weighs 821kg's with half a tank of fuel

Also I have now near enough finished my ring trip prep...

Clio rear number plate light

Hole marked out to be cut

And cut with wire routed in

And fitted
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#741 28th June 2011, 22:27

snazy josh very snazy looks spot on there!
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#742 28th June 2011, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

snazy josh very snazy looks spot on there!

Yeah im glad you think so, as shayal put it "that looks smart there"
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#743 28th June 2011, 23:20

Looks factory fitted!
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#744 29th June 2011, 07:18

bet she still told you to put the "trash" out!
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#745 29th June 2011, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeumH

Looks factory fitted!

I agree, looks nice and standard there

Tom - yeah haha! Well I got my passport back today so I'm all ready to go to the ring now
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#746 30th June 2011, 23:45

Last pics before the ring trip...

Stealth cam

And mark 2 rear lights going on... (left is mark 2, right is smoked mark 1's)

Were currently in ashford, about half an hour away from Dover. 8am ferry in the morning and we should be lapping on the ring by 4pm
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#747 1st July 2011, 00:44

The MK2's suit the carbon a lot better than the smoked MK1's imo! Rear end looks mean man, love it!
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#748 1st July 2011, 13:53

Josh i meant polycarb rears and door windows

i also prefer the mk2's
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#749 6th July 2011, 12:25

Just cruising!
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#750 6th July 2011, 14:54

The beast!!! Lol
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#751 7th July 2011, 12:45

and for you josh too
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#752 7th July 2011, 12:58

Is the car back safely in the UK now Josh???
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#753 7th July 2011, 13:21

Love those pictures lads, I'll upload the others that I've found in a proper update tonight

James - no not back yet, takes 2/3 weeks to get it back

In the mean time here's an 8:55 BTG lap from the mango... It's fair to say I was giving it the full beans all weekend!

#754 7th July 2011, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Love those pictures lads, I'll upload the others that I've found in a proper update tonight

James - no not back yet, takes 2/3 weeks to get it back

In the mean time here's an 8:55 BTG lap from the mango... It's fair to say I was giving it the full beans all weekend!

YouTube - ‪Saxo Nurburgring 2011 8:55 BTG‬&rlm;

Awesome man! what a lap, would be nice to have a clear track for a few laps! Be pushing the 8 minutes without those interruptions surely!
What`s the deal with the car anyway? Where is it now? and how do you get it home?
Jason

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#755 7th July 2011, 15:11

8:55! Fook josh thats good going!

#756 7th July 2011, 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tufty

I reckon i could take another 10-15seconds maximum out of that time if i had a few clear laps in a row getting into a good rhythm. Apart from that though, with that power i dont think theres much more to come off the time. Next year ill aim for 8:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

8:55! Fook josh thats good going!

Yeah i think its fair to say, and everyone that came out with me will agree, that i was pushing the car very hard.... i always knew sub 9mins was achievable with that power so im really happy ive been able to do it, even with a bit of traffic. Ive got a couple of other videos with loads of traffic and some cheeky "round the outside of the corner" overtaking going on lol

Heres the ring pictures i've found of my car so far...

And my favourite

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#757 7th July 2011, 18:28

yer all about next year mate

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#758 7th July 2011, 18:52

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Originally Posted by AndySAXO

yer all about next year mate

Damn right, as soon as summer is out the way and the other lads are back from there trip in early september ill start sorting the next trip, hopefully july again, but obviously the opening times dictate when the best weekend is to go

Was impressed with your car as well mate, nice and tidy
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#759 7th July 2011, 19:30

Hmm nurburg for me next year too ? Mango takes over nurburg Nice lines dude good driving!

#760 7th July 2011, 19:32

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Damn right, as soon as summer is out the way and the other lads are back from there trip in early september ill start sorting the next trip, hopefully july again, but obviously the opening times dictate when the best weekend is to go

Was impressed with your car as well mate, nice and tidy

I'll be there next year, I'll make a 1.1 handle yet haha!

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#761 7th July 2011, 19:44

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Originally Posted by mangojace

Hmm nurburg for me next year too ? Mango takes over nurburg Nice lines dude good driving!

Yes yes yes, 2 mango's is win dude

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Originally Posted by PJN

I'll be there next year, I'll make a 1.1 handle yet haha!

haha go for it mate
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#762 7th July 2011, 20:47

it's fair to say josh is mental he's a right crazy bastard!!

I video'd a passenger lap but I'm not strong enough to hold my phone in sight Lols theres to many g's moving around and you can't see alot.

that was a 9:21 with traffic and a slide behind a ring taxi I trimmed it on the iPhone.
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#763 7th July 2011, 20:53

liking the cheeky overtake near the end

never realised carousel was that much of angle!
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#764 7th July 2011, 20:54

yer josh give me dates and info defo in
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#765 7th July 2011, 20:54

also few inprovements
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#766 7th July 2011, 21:44

Loved it when you took me out and you said "ill take it a bit easy as its my first lap" LOL

I have to book a passenger seat for an 8:30 next year

#767 7th July 2011, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

it's fair to say josh is mental he's a right crazy bastard!!

I video'd a passenger lap but I'm not strong enough to hold my phone in sight Lols theres to many g's moving around and you can't see alot.

that was a 9:21 with traffic and a slide behind a ring taxi I trimmed it on the iPhone.

hahaha, it is pretty mental round there trying to get under 9mins in a saxo mate. Lmao @ the mental crazy bastard comment,

Chasing the ring taxi was great, must have been awesome watching us both get it sideways about a car's length apart lol

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Originally Posted by Chr15

liking the cheeky overtake near the end

never realised carousel was that much of angle!

Well he over took me near the start so it would be rude not to catch the Porsche up through the tighter sections towards the end and overtake him

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Originally Posted by AndySAXO

yer josh give me dates and info defo in

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

also few inprovements

Good good, thats what i like to hear mate. Shall let you know the rough plans late september time buddy!

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#768 7th July 2011, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Berg

Loved it when you took me out and you said "ill take it a bit easy as its my first lap" LOL

I have to book a passenger seat for an 8:30 next year

I always say that but after the first corner i just cant help myself haha. Your booked in for an 8:30 lap next year mate, loved the ride back in the bergmobile
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#769 7th July 2011, 21:52

Looks like you know the track well now. Bastard! I should be going this year!

You should easy get a low 8's as standard saxo done it in 8:52

#770 7th July 2011, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I always say that but after the first corner i just cant help myself haha. Your booked in for an 8:30 lap next year mate, loved the ride back in the bergmobile

Ha i was thinking, this aint taking it easy surely lol

Sounds good, cant wait!

You kinda forget about all the bangs and rattles in mine when you hit the right pedal lol was good i enjoyed it

#771 7th July 2011, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

Ha i was thinking, this aint taking it easy surely lol

Sounds good, cant wait!

You kinda forget about all the bangs and rattles in mine when you hit the right pedal lol was good i enjoyed it

Haha true, stick at it mate, fix all its weaknesses for next year and rock the ring!!! And yes 150mph and still accelerating was awesome haha

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Looks like you know the track well now. Bastard! I should be going this year!

You should easy get a low 8's as standard saxo done it in 8:52

Pfff id love to know how "standard" this was! I might be able to knock 10 seconds off my current time with a clear track but not much more, so no way low 8's with current set up mate.

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#772 7th July 2011, 22:17

True dat. Not a lot of time to come off!
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#773 7th July 2011, 22:20

I keep forgetting. What power is this running?
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#774 7th July 2011, 22:25

160-170bhp roughly....
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#775 7th July 2011, 22:50

got to love it, lil old mango stickin some of the big boys good time to!
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#776 7th July 2011, 22:54

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Originally Posted by miamibluebaby

got to love it, lil old mango stickin some of the big boys good time to!

haha damn right, got to be done
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#777 8th July 2011, 10:56

damn good time was had it seems josh think i need to come out with you guys next year! much itb bwapige!!!! very nice time also
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#778 8th July 2011, 11:06

I plan to get out there next year about July time.
We will have to colaberate Josh so we're there the same time.
I know there will be already 4 cars in out group.

And kev how's it going dude? not spoke on a while.
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#779 8th July 2011, 13:17

Been on here a bit lately mate :-) going well tho thanks! Should take a look at my progress thread!
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#780 8th July 2011, 20:01

You need a contents page so the busy/lazy people like me can skip to what they want
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#781 8th July 2011, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Looks like you know the track well now. Bastard! I should be going this year!

You should easy get a low 8's as standard saxo done it in 8:52

Standard saxo?
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#782 8th July 2011, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangojace

Standard saxo?

Pretty sure this is the one he means -
Completely standard iirc
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#783 8th July 2011, 21:19

Heres another video lads

Kev - yeah definitely come with us next year pal
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#784 8th July 2011, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangojace

Standard saxo?

Think thats the one though im sure i've seen an 8:52 as well on tube.
Think i should take my 1.4 next year and see if i can do a sub 10
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#785 9th July 2011, 19:32

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Think thats the one though im sure i've seen an 8:52 as well on tube.
Think i should take my 1.4 next year and see if i can do a sub 10

Sub 10 means 82mph or above on average iirc
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#786 9th July 2011, 19:42

I thought sub 10 was 60? Or was it 80?
More than happy to give it a go lol R888's in 13's are quite cheap :d
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#787 9th July 2011, 19:47

its over 80 for sub 10min...

i think the times you are doing here josh it will be difficult to knock big chunks off but if you had a lot more power you will be much quicker..

its purely a guess but i reckon if all goes well i could be doing it in a lot less than 8:45.. with the new power.

#788 9th July 2011, 20:53

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Originally Posted by dannygti

its over 80 for sub 10min...

i think the times you are doing here josh it will be difficult to knock big chunks off but if you had a lot more power you will be much quicker..

its purely a guess but i reckon if all goes well i could be doing it in a lot less than 8:45.. with the new power.

Aslong as your pushing it round the corners similar to me (assuming you are) then id be aiming for 8:30 or lower Danny, I reckon your more than capable of that

First straight going under the bridge you will gain 5seconds, long fast part leading up to schwedenkreuz you will gain at least 10seconds, back straight up the hill you will gain at least 10 seconds if not more, theres 25seconds, take that off my 8:55 and theres 8:30 already.... + better acceleration out of every corner will all add up, like up the hill just after Adenau bridge, and also out of Adenau force etc etc. I reckon once you've learnt the power/car with the new engine you will easily be in low 8's mate, not bad for a 106 hey

#789 9th July 2011, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Aslong as your pushing it round the corners similar to me (assuming you are) then id be aiming for 8:30 or lower Danny, I reckon your more than capable of that

tbh josh i was thinking more along those lines too.. jus didnt want to say it lol

like you say, get used to the car and it will be doing low 8's. i think with a bit of aero, new suspension and a few other things it could break 8mins... theres a few vag powered golf's that have done this so dont see why i couldnt.

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#790 9th July 2011, 21:22

hehehee, I know what you mean mate. Id like to see but i reckon with 200bhp NA under 8:30 is possible, so in yours its definitely possible to go under 8:30 lol

#791 9th July 2011, 21:26

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

hehehee, I know what you mean mate. Id like to see but i reckon with 200bhp NA under 8:30 is possible, so in yours its definitely possible to go under 8:30 lol

i think its poss...
to get to around a 9min lap you dont need that much power, jus good track knowledge an a car that handles.. but to dip below 9 then power is everthing.

ill have a good idea of what mine is capable of soon.. just hope you can make it mate

#792 9th July 2011, 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

If i do come then will be as a passenger if anyone has a passenger space available?

I actualy really enjoyed the trip after my car had gone to the garage not having to worry about the car if you know what i mean, just have a laugh like

#793 9th July 2011, 22:29

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

thats a good idea mate, will be good to have you along. im not sure if lea has a passenger yet?

its it stress free as a passenger tbh and you still enjoy the trip just as much.
if you do come then ill make sure you come out for a few in mine.

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#794 10th July 2011, 10:45

i do have passenger seat free feels free to jump in mine if you do come in september mate i dont mind.

btw a few photos from the ring trip

theres more somewhere ill find them out later
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#795 10th July 2011, 10:58

Thats a really good lap. How many you done now?
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#796 10th July 2011, 11:22

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Thats a really good lap. How many you done now?

I think about 75 laps so far mate....

Cheers for those lea, loving the carbon shots lol
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#797 10th July 2011, 11:28

no problem mate . you thinking about going the ring in september still?
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#798 10th July 2011, 11:35

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Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

no problem mate . you thinking about going the ring in september still?

Possibly mate, will be a last min decision depending on money, if you or anyone still has a passenger space, and if I can get the time off work as that's the second week back lol
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#799 10th July 2011, 11:46

well as I'm as I know I'm still Jason Durelo'ing it
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#800 10th July 2011, 11:47

That carbon looks awesome!!

The boot and roof alone are worth more than most people's cars on here!
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#801 10th July 2011, 11:48

That carbon looks awesome!!

The boot and roof alone are worth more than most people's cars on here!
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#802 10th July 2011, 12:17

Everytime i log into saxp i have to look at this thread lol!Love the carbon
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#803 10th July 2011, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I think about 75 laps so far mate....

now that explains a lot was thinking you were pretty good!
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#804 10th July 2011, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

well as I'm as I know I'm still Jason Durelo'ing it

Lol mate, Jason durelo'ing is boring as hell so ill try and work as much as i can over the summer mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

That carbon looks awesome!!

The boot and roof alone are worth more than most people's cars on here!

Haha, thats true that is lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangojace

Everytime i log into saxp i have to look at this thread lol!Love the carbon

Nice one mate, I try and make decent updates instead of "ive cleaned it today" lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayyoung

now that explains a lot was thinking you were pretty good!

Thats over 5 trips, so first couple of trips i did about 10 laps, last few trips ive crammed as many laps in as possible when the track is dry (ish) so around 15-20 laps per trip normally.
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#805 10th July 2011, 22:36

Not looked at this car in so long and i have to say its still one of the best all round cars on sax-p. Love it..
Also loving the ring vids.

Neil
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#806 10th July 2011, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dboyvts

Not looked at this car in so long and i have to say its still one of the best all round cars on sax-p. Love it..
Also loving the ring vids.

Neil

Hi Neil, glad your still knocking around, cheers for the nice comments Is the white saxo / engine still around somewhere?
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#807 10th July 2011, 22:58

the car is still in Scotland, its a lad on here that has it, The engine, i sold in many bits i dont have a clue where it is lol.

Still here dont post that much but when i do its some times in my project thread but only when i can be bothered lol.
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#808 12th July 2011, 15:15

awsom times josh i cant wait for my 3rd trip

dont think many know that it is like 20 euro a lap lol and below 9 min is a FAST lap,clarkson couldent break 10 min!

id be happy with 10 min to be fair.

love it josh
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#809 12th July 2011, 15:28

Feck....i have to buy a carbon fibre spoiler now.....thanks Josh lol.
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#810 12th July 2011, 19:16

It 24 euros a lap! Lol

And it id fast!! I been in it for a lap or two second didn't end so good but he was going faster that time!!!
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#811 15th July 2011, 10:06

For a bang on 10 min lap it's 74 mph average btg that is. It is is 19.1km.
So for an 8.30 btg you would need to average 83.25 mph.
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#812 15th July 2011, 20:11

josh car looks amazing colour looks so good when clean i mean it must be my epic machine polishing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#813 15th July 2011, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

awsom times josh i cant wait for my 3rd trip

dont think many know that it is like 20 euro a lap lol and below 9 min is a FAST lap,clarkson couldent break 10 min!

id be happy with 10 min to be fair.

love it josh

Thanks for the nice words Chris, you'll love the trip mate, which weekend are you going? It's true that the video doesn't emphasise how quick I'm going in certain places, it's 130mph+ in 2 places, and 125+ in another 2 places!

Quote:

Originally Posted by J222JRA

Feck....i have to buy a carbon fibre spoiler now.....thanks Josh lol.

Lol James, and the carbon fibre boot, which would go well with a carbon fibre roof as well

lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

It 24 euros a lap! Lol

And it id fast!! I been in it for a lap or two second didn't end so good but he was going faster that time!!!

Yeah the first lap you came out with me was just a warm up for Sunday's marathon of lapping Andy, unfortunately a driveshaft seal couldn't live with the pace, clearly lol

And yeah 24 a lap is bloody expensive, but tbh I absolutely love the place so don't really care about the cost

Quote:

Originally Posted by webby

For a bang on 10 min lap it's 74 mph average btg that is. It is is 19.1km.
So for an 8.30 btg you would need to average 83.25 mph.

Ah cheers for clearing that up, it's always nice to know

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Originally Posted by unreal106

josh car looks amazing colour looks so good when clean i mean it must be my epic machine polishing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Definitely must be your whoring skillllzzzz tommy boy!

Couple of other pics one of the shed lads took of my car...

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#814 15th July 2011, 21:20

i agree with jp!Videos make cars look so slow
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#815 15th July 2011, 22:08

To be fair I have the werid ride round in this car too
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#816 20th July 2011, 20:51

Quick update:

Im going to fetch it from the ring this weekend, Greenflag/Directline are cunts (an official complaint has been made) and Nickhead/Matt are legends for letting me borrow there van & trailer, bring on the weekend
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#817 20th July 2011, 20:54

what happend mate?
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#818 20th July 2011, 20:56

nice one mate!!!!! directline are total ace cakes!!

so whats the plan mr preston?
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#819 20th July 2011, 20:57

what did they say to you josh? give us a text dude.... tell them that the roof worth more than there year wage!!!

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#820 20th July 2011, 21:05

im assuming you dont have cover for the ring so they dont/wont tow you?

at least you get another cheeky trip

#821 20th July 2011, 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Quick update:

Im going to fetch it from the ring this weekend, Greenflag/Directline are cunts (an official complaint has been made) and Nickhead/Matt are legends for letting me borrow there van & trailer, bring on the weekend

Just out of curiousity, where has it been kept for the last few weeks? Be good to finally get it home, must feel like you've lost your baby

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#822 20th July 2011, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

im assuming you dont have cover for the ring so they dont/wont tow you?

at least you get another cheeky trip

They wont bring it back because the cars "market value" is not above £950 according to them.... LMAO!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

what did they say to you josh? give us a text dude.... tell them that the roof worth more than there year wage!!!

haha, i should tell them that the stupied monkeys

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

nice one mate!!!!! directline are total ace cakes!!

so whats the plan mr preston?

Go on Sat morning, back Sun night (if i can get it from the garage at the weekend) if not sleep in the car sunday night and pick it up 8am Monday morning and drive home then

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangojace

what happend mate?

Driveshaft seal went while on the ring mate, nothing too bad, just cost me a shit load to get it off the ring and now gonna cost loads to get there and bring it back!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJN

Just out of curiousity, where has it been kept for the last few weeks? Be good to finally get it home, must feel like you've lost your baby

Its been at a garage in Adenau, which is a few miles from nurburg. Yeah it feels weird not to have it home, especially as im now off work for the school summer holidays and ive been bored as hell this week without something to tinker with!
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#823 20th July 2011, 21:59

What fucking retards!threaten to take them to court yo
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#824 20th July 2011, 22:10

They would have bought it back if it had been a man colour
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#825 20th July 2011, 23:57

Lol Nick!

Mangojace - I've told them I will. I've written a letter of complaint and will see how they respond to that and go from there
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#826 21st July 2011, 14:53

My dad was with green flag on his work van,they didnt even bother answering the phone lol!Shit company
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#827 25th July 2011, 21:35

Quick update

Been and got the mango from the ring...

... After watching...

.... Who drives for...

...Win the f1 GP at the
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#828 25th July 2011, 21:36

Nice van pikey!!!
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#829 25th July 2011, 21:37

P.S i like that trailor, what make and size is it!?
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#830 25th July 2011, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickhead

P.S i like that trailor, what make and size is it!?

i heard he stole it and not going to give it back to the place he got it from
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#831 25th July 2011, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickhead

Nice van pikey!!!

Haha,it's a beast mate lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickhead

P.S i like that trailor, what make and size is it!?

Alright stalker Yeah it's a good one, not sure what make and model it is but I'll ask Matt when he's back from holiday and drop you a text, fits well, literally have 1cm each side of the wheels lol

Must say... A huge thanks for Nick for the van and Matt for the trailer!
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#832 25th July 2011, 21:57

Some might say you planned it all along!
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#833 26th July 2011, 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olly

Some might say you planned it all along!

Was thinking the same
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#834 26th July 2011, 13:14

Yer I bet he did too.... Cheevky bastard!!! Hope it was a good weekend dude.
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#835 27th July 2011, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olly

Some might say you planned it all along!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon

Was thinking the same

Haha, we were planning on going to the f1 all along, so made sense to pick the car up at the same time tbh lads

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Yer I bet he did too.... Cheevky bastard!!! Hope it was a good weekend dude.

Yeah was quality weekend Andy.

Quick update; car is now SORN as I'm not planning on using it for the rest of the summer and saving up for future bits and bobs + with any luck I'll get my Oz visa in 6 weeks time and be off back over there
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#836 27th July 2011, 13:01

well let's get it ready for next year ring trip?
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#837 27th July 2011, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

well let's get it ready for next year ring trip?

Damn right Andy I want to start a thread for next years trip but I think it's a bit early to be thinking about next years trip already haha
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#838 27th July 2011, 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Damn right Andy I want to start a thread for next years trip but I think it's a bit early to be thinking about next years trip already haha

Course not, earlier the better man
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#839 28th July 2011, 17:59

Lol.... fair enough mate.... ill pop a thread up after the other lads have been early september

Here's the last of my videos from the ring this year....

9:01 BTG
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#840 28th July 2011, 20:33

Awesome lap! Is that an R26 R you pass at around 2 minutes?
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#841 28th July 2011, 20:43

ring seem really quiet in that vid mate
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#842 28th July 2011, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by garner90

Awesome lap! Is that an R26 R you pass at around 2 minutes?

Yeah r26r that was mate...
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#843 28th July 2011, 21:04

nice tidy lap mate
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#844 28th July 2011, 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by garner90

Awesome lap! Is that an R26 R you pass at around 2 minutes?

can tell by the wheels mate
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#845 28th July 2011, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Yeah r26r that was mate...

Impressive
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#846 28th July 2011, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

i heard he stole it and not going to give it back to the place he got it from

Could have done a lap in it whilst he was there
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#847 29th July 2011, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

ring seem really quiet in that vid mate

Yep was a quiet lap until the last 1/3 of the lap. That was on Saturday when I was just getting my eye into it as well tbh Mark.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangojace

can tell by the wheels mate

Yup you can indeed

Quote:

Originally Posted by garner90

Impressive

Thanks bud, need to get saving now for next year and see if I can afford some extra power

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

Could have done a lap in it whilst he was there

Haha Nick asked me what time the transit did lol, unfortunately the track was closed over the whole weekend
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#848 5th August 2011, 12:17

looking good mate i cant wait to take my car one year with you, its going to be a good while as you no though!
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#849 8th August 2011, 14:25

i love this car!! the first 2 photos on the thread i love them. i also love how you keeped the thread going pretty much 3 years isi? well done mate i really do love your car!
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#850 28th November 2011, 20:52

Thanks for the comments again lads. Quick update to this thread...

Car had another mag feature earlier this year...

And the final picture I took of it with the old engine in...

Over the winter the car is under going some pretty big changes of which Sandy Brown will update for you all in due course
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#851 15th January 2012, 10:42

Time to wake this thread for 2012....

So I sold my previous engine to 'Nickhead', and fitted that to his car...

And fitted his satshifter...

My engine bay currently is empty...

And the car is soon to make the journey north to Marks for some sprucing up and fresh paint

When it's back I'll be fitting the new engine along with bits like;
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#852 15th January 2012, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

When it's back I'll be fitting the new engine

Im interested
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#853 15th January 2012, 11:08

I sense boost....
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#854 15th January 2012, 11:15

I dont Jay

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#855 15th January 2012, 11:17

jay i don't i think its going to be something from the depths of colins workshop
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#856 15th January 2012, 11:42

I know what the tanned pork pie man is putting in
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#857 15th January 2012, 11:46

If you read my posts carefully from the last 6 months you would know
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#858 15th January 2012, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

If you read my posts carefully from the last 6 months you would know

I will be back in a few hours then....
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#859 15th January 2012, 11:50

like this mango alot my car currently has a hole in the bay to atm awaiting new engine to arrive on tuesday

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#860 15th January 2012, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam_16v

like this mango alot my car currently has a hole in the bay to atm awaiting new engine to arrive on tuesday

Good stuff!

Find anything Jay?! lol
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#861 15th January 2012, 19:42

I know as you told me out in Germany lol

One question though, how high is your rev limiter going to be?
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#862 15th January 2012, 19:43

shall i give jay a hint josh

*cough*sandy*cough*
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#863 15th January 2012, 20:02

Lol Alex....

Berg - High, but not as high as you might think to produce some good power
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#864 15th January 2012, 20:05

8kish??
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#865 15th January 2012, 20:09

8.5k is my bet
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#866 15th January 2012, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Good stuff!

Find anything Jay?! lol

He's still reading....haha

Its a love hate with this thread as I love your car BUT...its a constant reminder of how nice my old mango could have been Makes me miss it!
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#867 15th January 2012, 21:01

Screaming Stroker?? please please do this!
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#868 15th January 2012, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by miamibluebaby

Screaming Stroker?? please please do this!

Definitely !!!!
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#869 15th January 2012, 22:08

what ever is happening.. its going to be expensive to be better than a bodied vts!
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#870 15th January 2012, 23:40

Not stroker... or not for this year anyway, maybe something to consider once i get bored of 200+ bhp i guess lol.

Gav was closest on the rev limiter
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#871 15th January 2012, 23:46

i wont know for few weeks yet as i need to get car out of the way ie built but may have some funds spare for a visit no promises atm tho
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#872 16th January 2012, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick_j_r

what ever is happening.. its going to be expensive to be better than a bodied vts!

True... but well worth it when im chasing some crazy stuff at the ring, I think 8:30 BTG round the ring should be possible this summer
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#873 16th January 2012, 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

True... but well worth it when im chasing some crazy stuff at the ring, I think 8:30 BTG round the ring should be possible this summer

8:30 should be easy with the th spec now! A twingo rs on r888s and a few minor mods did it in 8:40
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#874 16th January 2012, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

8:30 should be easy with the th spec now! A twingo rs on r888s and a few minor mods did it in 8:40

I'm not the stig you know lol
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#875 16th January 2012, 21:26

Please tell me you're B16b-ing this!
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#876 16th January 2012, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I'm not the stig you know lol

lol but practice makes perfect
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#877 16th January 2012, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo180

Please tell me you're B16b-ing this!

B16 on bodies?
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#878 16th January 2012, 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by garner90

B16 on bodies?

That would be fecking epic!!!
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#879 16th January 2012, 21:44

No, staying with a low mileage jp4 engine lads... It will be a screamer
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#880 16th January 2012, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

No, staying with a low mileage jp4 engine lads... It will be a screamer

Lambo V12? I just refuse to go over threads this long as i don't have time but doesn't this have the best part of 170bhp or something under its bonnet?

What was wrong with that? You haven't even had it that spec for long had you?
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#881 16th January 2012, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Good stuff!

Find anything Jay?! lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

shall i give jay a hint josh

*cough*sandy*cough*

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

No, staying with a low mileage jp4 engine lads... It will be a screamer

I don't know

I feel slightly retarded for not finding anything. But if sandy is getting it then it's gunna be freaking amazing!
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#882 16th January 2012, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

No, staying with a low mileage jp4 engine lads... It will be a screamer

Shame, a b16 on bodies would be epic. Similar engine spec to why the s1600s had? ( I don't actually know what that was, just having a wild guess)

#883 16th January 2012, 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Lambo V12? I just refuse to go over threads this long as i don't have time but doesn't this have the best part of 170bhp or something under its bonnet?

What was wrong with that? You haven't even had it that spec for long had you?

5 years isnt long? After having that engine for 5 years I didnt feel i could go much quicker tbh, and kept destroying the gearbox trying to go faster last year, so time for a power upgrade!

Why settle for 200bhp per ton when you can have 280bhp per ton or there abouts

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#884 16th January 2012, 22:19

Oh..i see.

Like i said these progress blogs are way too long 280/tonne sounds
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#885 16th January 2012, 22:31

Thats why I created this thread (plug plug plug)

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=189514

Which re-caps everything from the cars first few miles with me up until its current state on the first 2 pages!
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#886 23rd January 2012, 08:24

The engine spec is pretty much finalised in my mind, but if I learn anything from my other engines along the way, that can be applied, then I will. The main thing for me is, whatever I decide to do with it, it needs to be reliable and low risk. Josh lives along way from me, so popping over to take a look if he has any problems/concerns, won't be possible. On that basis, I won't be doing it as a "Stroker". I have another customer locally that has asked me to do one and accepts the risks, so I'm evaluating it for his engine currently. The thing is, "Stroker" engines do not give you free power. The old saying "No substitute for cubic inches" is largely true, but when you're pushing the constraints of an engine that's already pretty much maximised, you can lose alot of what you gain, let alone the cost of parts.
I have alot of data already to draw on, from my other work on other engines, but to give you a broad idea of the numbers involved, here goes:

Standard engine: 78.5mm bore x 82mm stroke, 1587cc
Typical oversize: 80mm bore x 82mm stroke, 1649cc
Stroker engine: 80mm bore x 89mm stroke, 1789cc

If you're planning a fast road kind of engine, with hydraulic followers, the restrictions of rev limit and valve sizes are unlikely to be a problem, but for a race spec engine; it is a problem. The valve sizes I use in my race engines fit on the standard JP4 valve seat inserts, if you want to oversize the inserts (properly!), you'll be adding around £500 and the exhaust port will limit you anyway, there isn't enough material in the head to port to suit sufficiently big exhaust valves, for a free spec 1800, you'd have to make a compromise.
Regarding rev limits, we come up against the issue of piston speed and thrust angle. Peak piston speed and rod thrust angle will provide a glass ceiling for performance; beyond a point, frictional losses and wear become excessive; curbing performance and reducing engine life.

Probably not the best example, but perhaps the most extreme, is the Honda B18C. It's a more sophisticated engine in many ways that the TU and Honda went to a great deal of trouble to make the 8600rpm rev limit possible, including a very high spec big end bearing material. It has 87.2mm stroke and 138mm long con rods. That means, that at the rev limit, peak piston speed is 41.2m/s (24.7m/s mean) and rod thrust angle 18.4 degrees. That is very much on the limit of what you can practically do with regular high quality parts. That's about the same rev limit as i've settled on for my race TUs, as being durable and reliable, 8600rpm. A standard stroke TU5 with cup car spec rods (as most 1600s use), will give peak piston speed of 38.5m/s (23.2m/s mean) and rod thrust angle of a nice and steady 17.3 degrees. If we apply the same thinking backwards to an 89mm "Stroker" TU with 133.5mm rods (to make room for the stroke), we get a rev limit of 7840rpm and a rather worrying rod thrust angle of 19.5 degrees.
So if we assumed both the standard stroke (80mm bore) engine and stroker (80mm bore) engines operated to the same maximum piston speed and could both make 87lbft/litre at that peak speed, they would in fact; make the same power, 230bhp. Reality is, that the TU 16v head is very tricky to optimise for that level of performance and there aren't many engines genuinely in excess of 210bhp out there, with a decent torque curve anyway. Considering the very risky rod angle too, I'm not convinced a stroker kit offers good value. The other interesting aspect, is that there is a long stroke crank in the Peugeot range, that can be used, with modification and that's the route I may be testing elsewhere.

Getting back to the spec of Josh's engine, outline shopping list is as follows (SB=Sandy Brown, CS=Colin Satchell):

TU5JP4 block and crank
SB+CS steel flywheel, 7.25" race clutch
SB custom steel h-section rods
SB custom design pistons
Peugeot Sport sump baffles
SB ported and prepared head
SB custom single piece stainless valves
Piper double springs and retainers
SB custom solid followers
SB custom cam profiles
Alloy vernier pulleys
Steel belt rollers
SB+CS race spec GSXR TBs inlet design
Twin injectors
SB custom exhaust manifold (Stainless) and system
DTA S40 ECU and SB loom
Built, dyno run in and mapped by SB.

Every journey starts with a single step and here are some before pics, of the donor engine:

Block my need a little paint! There are many aspects of the engine I won't be showing in detail I'm afraid, but here's a sneak of my pistons:

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#887 23rd January 2012, 11:39

Can't wait to see more of this engine build
I do want another Saxo as a play car and want to go big turbo/300bhp +.
Something about Sandy's engine builds that would make me want to stay N/A though. Basically I want big power to drive like a N/A engine haha.

Looking good Josh/Sandy, keep up the progress.
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#888 23rd January 2012, 12:55

Pistons = porn

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#889 23rd January 2012, 13:32

What a spec! Can't wait to see this when it's finished, certainly still will be one of my favourite cars on the site!
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#890 23rd January 2012, 18:25

looking very good there josh, best you cant wait to get it all done now.

regards you car coming up this way...

i plan to get the ax sprayed outside on the 3rd and inside on the 4th ready to come back on the sunday or monday, or tht week when ever is best for you guys.

yours wont take very long at all though, i plan to keep work free for you for the week so onli yours been worked on, matts has been more a back burning job! really cant wait to see it all done mate!!
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#891 23rd January 2012, 18:30

Thank you for the info Sandy Engine plans sound good Josh will be immense once complete with mark doing bay etc and sandy doing the engine, those pistons are a work of art
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#892 23rd January 2012, 18:58

Christ wouldnt it be cheaper to whack in a v6 lol
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#893 23rd January 2012, 19:23

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Christ wouldnt it be cheaper to whack in a v6 lol

I swear your comments become more pointless...

Looks really good! Can't wait to see this come together!

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#894 23rd January 2012, 19:28

What a post Sandy, awesome stuff!

It's been a long time saving up over the last 6months but my god it's going to be worth it, bring it on!
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#895 23rd January 2012, 21:06

V6 engine no more than a couple of hundred plus a good mechanic and mates rates = win!

Or maybe saxo owners are getting richer these days :s

seems like a lot of money into this when a second hand evo would have been cheaper. thats just my view if the guy wabts to do this theb fair play but saving for 6 months to do this to a saxo seems odd

and saxp politics with 'thanks' is so playschool
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#896 23rd January 2012, 21:10

A big heavy V6 in the front of a Saxo? That's going to do wonders for the handling.

Look forward to seeing more jp/ sandy.

#897 23rd January 2012, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

V6 engine no more than a couple of hundred plus a good mechanic and mates rates = win!

Or maybe saxo owners are getting richer these days :s

seems like a lot of money into this when a second hand evo would have been cheaper. thats just my view if the guy wabts to do this theb fair play but saving for 6 months to do this to a saxo seems odd

and saxp politics with 'thanks' is so playschool

He's doing it because he wants to, and it'll make him happy.
If everyone did the logical or cheaper thing and never strived to be different or go further, then the cars, and the car scene itself would be pretty boring wouldn't it.

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#898 23rd January 2012, 21:44

Yeah i know just i spent a lot of money once upon a time and it didn't work out and thats when i had the money. Just a lot of people on here just spend more and more constantly wanting power power power and then more power and you gotta think when is it going to end?
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#899 23rd January 2012, 21:51

sandy brown you absolute legend!! what a post possibly the most technical well thought of post iv ever seen on this forum. clearly sandy your only breaking the ice of your knowledge with that post but wow!!

josh this engine is going to be seriously special

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#900 23rd January 2012, 21:53

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Yeah i know just i spent a lot of money once upon a time and it didn't work out and thats when i had the money. Just a lot of people on here just spend more and more constantly wanting power power power and then more power and you gotta think when is it going to end?

joshs car has done a fair few track days not to mentinon nurburgring x amount of times.

as he said before he has got used to the power and can drive it to its full potential - hes making it "faster" as he has reached the limit on his old engine.

awsom bit of info sandy,realy good progress Josh,will be amazing/interesting to see what its like once its done-ganna take some getting used to again=fun

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#901 23rd January 2012, 22:04

haha awesome, Im excited for you mate, and scared a little too.... )

#902 23rd January 2012, 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

And in the mean time turn it into a 'gayliner' that doesnt go round corners?

In my opinion its more than worth the money, otherwise I wouldnt have gone ahead with it in the first place. And when I say saving up I still managed to pull in a weeks skiing, week in Lanzarote and a long weekend in Barcelona within the last 6 months lol

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#903 23rd January 2012, 23:17

wouldn't worry anything without b8s and a lower brace is just nothing to him tanned man

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#904 23rd January 2012, 23:26

can't forget a uber diffuser
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#905 23rd January 2012, 23:28

sax-p politics live on i see!

suppose pulling 1.6G round a corner is pretty pathetic

and there's no need to show off now is there?

#906 23rd January 2012, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

Thats fair enough everyone has their own opinion im only saying it because i couldn't afford to do that and would look at spending the money elsewhere on say prof driving tuition.

He hasn't reached them limit on his engine when a heavier less powered twingo can still lap 15 seconds faster with less laps under his belt too

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#907 23rd January 2012, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

can't forget a uber diffuser

oh yeah that and the stick a v8 in
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#908 24th January 2012, 00:25

Lol at joeboy's idiocy!

This going to be ready for the ring this year?
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#909 24th January 2012, 05:32

Gonna try, thanks for the positives
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#910 24th January 2012, 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy309

Gonna try, thanks for the positives

Sandy, what you doing up at that time lol

Jp, really excited to see how this develops.. proper build, proper engine, proper car!! Gunna be amazing

#911 24th January 2012, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

im not just talking about the nurburgring dude as if i had 500hp i would still only manage 10 min lol.That place is something elce,like josh said im sure he wouldent be doing it if it was not worth while.as he has had the car for a fair few years im sure he knows what he is doing............yes josh holidays hear and there stop showing off

LMFAO! ha ha

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#912 24th January 2012, 10:45

It'll be very interesting to see the end result that's for sure.

Will give u a txt now aswel to coordinate the travel to marks.

#913 24th January 2012, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

What lap was done in twingo?

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#914 24th January 2012, 14:01

"hardcore"joeboy please die k thnx bye x

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#915 24th January 2012, 15:44

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No you had a stripped out 16v with a low end suspension setup and road tyres
could be built for sub 1k see alanapones thread for details

Joshs chassis is more than capable of more power and hes reached the limit of the 170hp he had its run circles around cars on several tracks

I admit im a.power crazed silly engine guy and i dont regret it for a second ive had tons.of fun with it

A v6 is a shitty engine to choose vtec in the back is probably a bit better and similar cash at the end of the day however people will do what they want with there money at the end of the day its joshs cash and his choice to spend it how he wants if you dont like how hes spending it then dont come and look

Much like yout comment about turbos are for people who cant drive in jungles thread in track prep you spout shit on every post you make

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#916 24th January 2012, 15:51

Lol at some of the above comments, Jelousy springs to mind

If it was built, used once and then broken for parts like most other projects on the internet then i could understand the comments

The fact it actually gets used for what it was built for makes it well worth the money imo

#917 25th January 2012, 23:35

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

dont usually comment on other members comments for various reasons but dam you come out with some shit sometimes!!

on a serious note, loooks like a great spec and will be very interested to see how it goes and how much your times improve by etc.........

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#918 26th January 2012, 07:30

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Originally Posted by AlexB

Not on topic but plenty of those witb race experience agree with me just because i dont hqve the technical/mechanical lingo to back my shit up dont makw me wrong.

I just say why spend so much when someone lije sexy-gt with a lower spec will still piss all over you..
Hell my 'poverty spec' suspension was good enough to see off stock hatches with the holy grail setup so...is it worth it?
And the twingo was a 8:40btg on r888 and 139bhp

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#919 26th January 2012, 07:32

But josh do as you please im not attacking just giving food for thought i know others here dont like it they would rather kiss each others asses than disagree about anthing. good luck will need to see vids when done

#920 26th January 2012, 08:13

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

the thing you arent accounting for with the twingo is weight they weigh fuck all if its a mark 1

Sexy-gt has similar spec to josh and tbh it wouldnt be far off between them i bet
you seem convinced jsh cant drive cause hes been out the country a bit recently but far from that tbh

Andi forgot your senna reincarnated and can beat anthing anywere in any car
do everyone a favour and just keep you opinions yo yourself if youve not noticed its very rare people agree with you and normally if the masses disagree with you your wrong

Anyway no hard feelings

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#921 26th January 2012, 08:46

Fair enough.

Twingo was a mark 2 the rs version
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#922 26th January 2012, 08:57

My god you didnt argue back!

Has someone hacked your account?? Where is the real joeboy??
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#923 26th January 2012, 08:58

for anyone doubting jp's driving iv been out with him for a lap on the ring where we caught up with a ring taxi and followed it right up its arse for more than half a lap till it let us past just before mini carousel. we even went that hard we was sideways behind it cause josh pushes that hard.

with this new engine josh is Gunna be quicker than most the 911 regulars there by a long shot!

driver experience clearly shines through here
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#924 26th January 2012, 09:16

Once you drive a track car to its limit, every second quicker is going to cost a fortune FACT!!!.

The difference is some people can justify spending the money and some people cant. Josh has had a good few years on his current engine, developed his driving skills and now feels its time for a change. How he wants to do that is upto him.

(hard_corejoeboy) Everyone is entiltled to there opinion but if this is not interest to you i dont see the point in posting/following the thread
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#925 26th January 2012, 09:21

I dont understand why this guy keeps going on saying 'what's the point in having more power if someone with a lower spec can drive faster....'
Does it ever cross your mind that even someone who has no experience of track driving would like a fast powerful car because thats what makes it exciting for them?

I'm no professional but spent years karting when I was younger and did quite well in the local scene when I lived abroad in Belgium.
I have never got round to track driving in the UK but still like to think I can drive 'well'. But whether I am any good or not I would be very bored with a slow, underpowered car. More than half of the excitement for me is driving a quick car with all the noise etc.
Look at Wayne, he's probably not up there with the likes of Josh in terms of driving ability but he's building a high spec car because he will enjoy it.

So anyway, can't wait to see more progress Josh

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#926 26th January 2012, 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

My god you didnt argue back!

Has someone hacked your account?? Where is the real joeboy??

Alex the problem is you all misunderstand what im saying that or i type a load of krap lol

never said jp didnt have wheel skills for the record like i say good luck and 911 hunting is good

#927 26th January 2012, 12:03

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

He hasn't reached them limit on his engine when a heavier less powered twingo can still lap 15 seconds faster with less laps under his belt too

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

I just say why spend so much when someone lije sexy-gt with a lower spec will still piss all over you..

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Alex the problem is you all misunderstand what im saying that or i type a load of krap lol

never said jp didnt have wheel skills for the record like i say good luck and 911 hunting is good

Oh ok you didnt say he cant drive??

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#928 26th January 2012, 12:10

I think its pretty awesome, cant wait to see what sort of figures this engine makes.

if the mans ballin' let him ball

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#929 26th January 2012, 12:39

Cant see how any one could fault the guy wanting more power, its development and if hes reached the current limit of what is in the car already then the next logical step is more modifications. People could all go out and buy an Evo out of the box but where is the fun in that? Its working on your car that gives people the thrill and making it quicker, plus the fact that what started life as a 1.4 litre shopping car can keep up with machinery costing 20 times as much
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#930 26th January 2012, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

Oh ok you didnt say he cant drive??

U love a fight dont you mr?

Still doesnt say he cant drive its like comparing senna to damon hill lol but dqmon hill is still awesome
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#931 26th January 2012, 13:55

I have seen Sandys race engines in action at Castle Combe, to have one in your own car would be very very special. Lucky you
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#932 26th January 2012, 14:50

Thank you The delivery is every bit as important as the figures, what happens at 4-7k rpm is more important to real performance than peak power. The difference in lap times at Combe for my race engines versus mildly tuned race 106/Saxos (ie cams and remap etc), is around 6-7 seconds/minute. Also interesting to note that my guys regularly took Pole positions, against circa 500bhp turbo Leons, Tomcats, even the odd Evo on occasion. A well set up and driven NA Saxo/106 with a good engine can be very hard to beat with any real world road car.
But more than anything, I like my engines to feel exciting from the moment the key's turned, if you don't have to be flat out to enjoy it, that's alot of extra value.
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#933 26th January 2012, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

U love a fight dont you mr?

Still doesnt say he cant drive its like comparing senna to damon hill lol but dqmon hill is still awesome

No i just dont think knocking a guys ability when you have never met them or seen tbem drive is a bit cuntish when you cba to read the thread you have shown with posts like "not been 170hp for long" youve no idea on josh or his car and yet you argued still

Im defending a friend your acting out across the internet with petty arguements in every thread
You tell me who loves a fight?

#934 26th January 2012, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy309

Thank you

The delivery is every bit as important as the figures, what happens at 4-7k rpm is more important to real performance than peak power. The difference in lap times at Combe for my race engines versus mildly tuned race 106/Saxos (ie cams and remap etc), is around 6-7 seconds/minute. Also interesting to note that my guys regularly took Pole positions, against circa 500bhp turbo Leons, Tomcats, even the odd Evo on occasion. A well set up and driven NA Saxo/106 with a good engine can be very hard to beat with any real world road car.
But more than anything, I like my engines to feel exciting from the moment the key's turned, if you don't have to be flat out to enjoy it, that's alot of extra value.

What goes into your race engines if you dont mind me asking? Thats quite a time difference in lap times!

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#935 26th January 2012, 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandi699

What goes into your race engines if you dont mind me asking? Thats quite a time difference in lap times!

Go back a few pages...

Getting back to the spec of Josh's engine, outline shopping list is as follows (SB=Sandy Brown, CS=Colin Satchell):

TU5JP4 block and crank
SB+CS steel flywheel, 7.25" race clutch
SB custom steel h-section rods
SB custom design pistons
Peugeot Sport sump baffles
SB ported and prepared head
SB custom single piece stainless valves
Piper double springs and retainers
SB custom solid followers
SB custom cam profiles
Alloy vernier pulleys
Steel belt rollers
SB+CS race spec GSXR TBs inlet design
Twin injectors
SB custom exhaust manifold (Stainless) and system
DTA S40 ECU and SB loom
Built, dyno run in and mapped by SB.

#936 26th January 2012, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsi16v

Go back a few pages...

Getting back to the spec of Josh's engine, outline shopping list is as follows (SB=Sandy Brown, CS=Colin Satchell):

TU5JP4 block and crank
SB+CS steel flywheel, 7.25" race clutch
SB custom steel h-section rods
SB custom design pistons
Peugeot Sport sump baffles
SB ported and prepared head
SB custom single piece stainless valves
Piper double springs and retainers
SB custom solid followers
SB custom cam profiles
Alloy vernier pulleys
Steel belt rollers
SB+CS race spec GSXR TBs inlet design
Twin injectors
SB custom exhaust manifold (Stainless) and system
DTA S40 ECU and SB loom
Built, dyno run in and mapped by SB.

Thanks, I'm on a phone so scrolling back a million pages wasnt going to be fun

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#937 26th January 2012, 15:08

Custom cam profiles. thew sign of a true covert engine builder
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#938 26th January 2012, 15:11

Argh hardcoreblowjob causing more arguments again...

Josh known about this for a while, if the current engine is 170 and you are going from '200 per tonne to around it, you claim you will be going to 280 where's the weight removal coming from, as even sandys race engines I believed were only circa 225. (using only as a loose term here lol)

#939 26th January 2012, 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy309

Thank you

The delivery is every bit as important as the figures, what happens at 4-7k rpm is more important to real performance than peak power. The difference in lap times at Combe for my race engines versus mildly tuned race 106/Saxos (ie cams and remap etc), is around 6-7 seconds/minute. Also interesting to note that my guys regularly took Pole positions, against circa 500bhp turbo Leons, Tomcats, even the odd Evo on occasion. A well set up and driven NA Saxo/106 with a good engine can be very hard to beat with any real world road car.
But more than anything, I like my engines to feel exciting from the moment the key's turned, if you don't have to be flat out to enjoy it, that's alot of extra value.

Love that quote. Every post I see from you is making me more keen for you to build me an engine and discard turbo conversion.

In terms of road driving is it worth going from PH4/734/7's to solid grind cams?

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#940 26th January 2012, 16:08

Ryan - car currently weights 821kg's with half a tank of fuel. 170 / 0.821 =207bhp per ton

Carbon bonnet (10kg's) + other savings will bring it down to 800kgs or less. 225 / 0.800 = 281bhp per ton
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#941 26th January 2012, 16:08

Ryan - car currently weights 821kg's with half a tank of fuel. 170 / 0.821 =207bhp per ton

Carbon bonnet (10kg's) + other savings will bring it down to 800kgs or less. 225 / 0.800 = 281bhp per ton

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#942 26th January 2012, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Ryan - car currently weights 821kg's with half a tank of fuel. 170 / 0.821 =207bhp per ton

Carbon bonnet (10kg's) + other savings will bring it down to 800kgs or less. 225 / 0.800 = 281bhp per ton

Removing the half a tank of fuel would already bring it down to close to 800 alone.

Still would be seen as fat though next to davep

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#943 26th January 2012, 16:42

Anyway....as Sandy says, the most important thing is drivability, midrange power, not talking figures down the pub

#944 26th January 2012, 17:12

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Originally Posted by wrighty89

It depends what you want to achieve, but if you can do what you want to do on hydraulics, then it's cheaper and easier. Well done solids will be pretty low maintenence, bear in mind that many modern road engines have them (most Fords now). Adjustment if required is alot of hassle if not part of a rebuild.

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#945 26th January 2012, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Anyway....as Sandy says, the most important thing is drivability, midrange power, not talking figures down the pub

It's a shame most people ignore throttle bodies and the overall improvement over the curve because they don't give huge peak figures.

Will be good when back though, the noise of the solid lifters alone make it more fun
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#946 26th January 2012, 19:36

Awsom info on this thread

i think once you have a modified engine you do realise how the power delivery/curve is very important.as there is no point having say a jump of 70hp in say 1000 rpm - as this becomes very undriveble.

im looking forward to hearing your oppinions josh once you have got used to this engine
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#947 26th January 2012, 20:03

Good stuff Josh, suprised you've not got bored of this after all the changes!

looking forward to the end results dude
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#948 26th January 2012, 22:06

sounds like you should have got a twingo jp. Sandy, why havent you advised your customers to swith to twingo's too?
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#949 26th January 2012, 22:08

Cos he wouldn't make any money....duh!
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#950 27th January 2012, 06:19

If it was all about the money Joe, I wouldn't be building engines! I left my last proper job earning about 3x what I earn now.

I would agree that alot of people would benefit from tuition, or practice and standard cars for many people are a better choice than modifying; not sure about doing a scrapyard challenge V6 conversion though, I've seen some very nasty cars like that. The common thread among my customers is the passion for the cars (even some oddballs, like a Citroen Visa or V8 Metro). I think you understand that really and if you don't, you're probably not qualified to criticise.

#951 27th January 2012, 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy309

Thank you

I was a little vague in my post but this is what I ment, power/torque and the graph to show whats going on inbetween

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Ryan - car currently weights 821kg's with half a tank of fuel. 170 / 0.821 =207bhp per ton

Carbon bonnet (10kg's) + other savings will bring it down to 800kgs or less. 225 / 0.800 = 281bhp per ton

800kg's is quite an achievement, sorry if you've mentioned it before but what have you done more recently to reduce the weight so much?

I know you have a lot of carbon now, and the interior is ripped out. Have you ditched the PAS and ABS, removed a lot of the electrical devices?

I think when Danny weighed mine a long time ago, it was roughly 850, will be lighter in its current state now but nowhere near 800 just yet

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#952 27th January 2012, 09:19

Rushy a westcoast doesnt have half the stuff you listed
only pas iirc

A forged balanced motor weighs less in total than oe and parts like stripped back looms ect that make the difference

The bits you cant see add up hence i got mine with full interior down to 880ish from 960 standard with a lot of the big stuff (pas abs leccy windows glass and metal panels) still in place
I think i could aim for 860 possibly 850 with full interior due to just stripping little items and my fg bonnet and rear polycarbs
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#953 27th January 2012, 11:35

Actually forgot this is (was lol?) a Westcoast originally. Good point.

Totally understand, as mentioned a lot of little bits were removed from mine, with your help actually after Danny did the weigh in.

I think 850kgs is possible as you mentioned, dont S2 Rallye's weigh around that much standard?
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#954 27th January 2012, 11:42

Youd be suprised at whats gone on mine now tbh and once you get inventive with a hole saw the weight just falls away lol tbh i rekon on most cars on here theres at least 5-10 kg the owners have never considered removing because its hidden away where you dont see it
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#955 27th January 2012, 11:46

Hole saw is a bit too hardcore for me, so you though Alex
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#956 27th January 2012, 13:37

Dont hole saw.anywere you can see

Then you dont have to be hardcore to live with it
bumper supports and the back of the dash are good areas to start lol
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#957 27th January 2012, 16:13

Rush - fully stripped
Sound deadening all removed (apart from top of the dash which I choose to keep in)
Tar removed
Loom from dash to the back stripped and unnecessary bits removed
Carbon boot / poly carb rear window / carbon spoiler
Carbon roof
Carbon roof cross members
Front door cards removed
Carbon Kevlar seats (will save loads of weight vs standard ones)
Seat bars welded in (alot lighter than standard subframe)
Aluminium side mounts (lighter than steel ones)
OMP steering wheel (lighter than standard)
Dash lightened

Don't forget;

- I still have a full carpet
- Cage ADD's another 20kgs compared to standard.
- New exhaust system will be alot lighter than BTB system
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#958 27th January 2012, 16:58

Obviously Alex lol! I wasnt thinking to attack the outside of anyones car.

Fantastic, the carbon and poly carbs I expect to be the main weight savers.
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#959 27th January 2012, 17:04

Josh are you going to retail leccy windows like I am?

I really cant be arsed with the ball ache of polycarbing the front windows due to the limitations it brings on the road/toll booth.
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#960 27th January 2012, 18:35

Just gonna leave the electric ones in for now Ryan, prob go to "windy" windows when I can be arsed to change them over.

Rush - roof (inc cross members) saves over 20kgs
boot inc spoiler and polycarb saved 20kgs, so there's 40kgs.

If I went full out with the hole saw, got all the loom stripped down and did a few other bits I could get it to 775kg's I reckon. I'll save that for another year
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#961 27th January 2012, 20:40

Could always remove the vt bodykit function over form and all that
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#962 4th February 2012, 22:53

No joe that would just be stupid lets be honest.

Stripping of the bay continues...

Brake servo, oil cooiler and wiper motor etc removed

And removed the interior and standard gear shift system so it's ready for satshifter fitting

Then it started snowing so I put her to back to bed...
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#963 7th February 2012, 19:10

Bit of progress with the head. Starting with a bare JP4 head, bit grubby at the moment and desperately needing improvement!

First thing I do, is attach a bare manifold flange and machine it into the ports, to get it matched perfectly and make starter marks for the hand porting, which helps with the precision. This is one really handy feature of making our own inlet manifolds, it can be made with the head, to get exactly the tract shape and size I want.

At the valve end, I start shaping and sizing upwards from the inside of the valve seat:

One of the most important things to master with porting, is repeating what you've done accurately across all the cylinders! When you get frustrated by the differing core shift of the casting, you know you're getting it! One of my frustrations with this casting can be seen here, the slight dip in the long side left by the factory throat blending machining. They go deeper than they need to and you need to balance losing it with getting the size and shape you want. Compromises have to be made with most head castings, how you manage them matters to the engine you create.

And having got the basic size and shape of the whole tract done using cutting tools, I tend to leave it for another day, so that I can come back with a fresh and critical eye, before commiting to the smoothing and finishing with abrasives.

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#964 7th February 2012, 19:16

Love it
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#965 7th February 2012, 19:49

ive made a mess here over sandys engine porn work.

Sounds good JP.
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#966 7th February 2012, 20:59

sandy when can i send you my engine lol
i want that kind of workmanship on my car
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#967 7th February 2012, 21:19

very very nice work sandy your work ethic is fantastic
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#968 7th February 2012, 21:51

now thats a proper port/polish nice one
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#969 8th February 2012, 05:21

Thanks guys
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#970 8th February 2012, 13:23

Love this
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#971 8th February 2012, 16:28

Another piece of the jig saw arrived today... A proper 'spal' fan, not the cheap shitty eBay ones
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#972 10th February 2012, 17:13

Another quick update;

I've booked the 180min track session @ FCS Donnington 2012
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#973 12th February 2012, 10:17
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#974 12th February 2012, 11:54

The car has now been dropped off at marks...

And marks found the first hole already lol
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#975 12th February 2012, 18:35

Successful days trailering today mate :-) we got lucky with the weather, glad the rain held off
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#976 13th February 2012, 08:58

Definitely a good day Matt, now all I need to do is work out how to get it home lol.

I'm glad it's all going to be sorted now anyway so I have a good chassis to work with from now on

#977 13th February 2012, 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Just gonna leave the electric ones in for now Ryan, prob go to "windy" windows when I can be arsed to change them over.

Rush - roof (inc cross members) saves over 20kgs
boot inc spoiler and polycarb saved 20kgs, so there's 40kgs.

If I went full out with the hole saw, got all the loom stripped down and did a few other bits I could get it to 775kg's I reckon. I'll save that for another year

You need a S1

mines lighter than your predicted figures as it stands now

Ash

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#978 13th February 2012, 17:36

Lol ash I know I know. It's going to be more than quick enough for my capabilities anyway

Interestingly my brothers s1 106 xsi weights in at 810kgs, that's stripped with carbon buckets as well. So without my cage our cars would weight roughly the same
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#979 13th February 2012, 22:13

right my first update of the thread.

only managed to get 2/3 hours on the saxo as i have a fiesta booked in all week for new arches good old rust. must say the citreons are very clean compared to fords rust wise.

anyways got the front end totali stripped down. started prepering the left hand wing for seam welding and rust repairs and strenthening. only have couple picture.

front end stripped down

first few seams.

1st rust patch will be ground down and smoothed over befor paint.

can just see where the rust has gone though on this pic.

Mark

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#980 13th February 2012, 22:21

Looks great!
brian james trailer for the win!
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#981 13th February 2012, 22:53

Looking great already Mark
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#982 13th February 2012, 23:06

fast work
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#983 14th February 2012, 07:23

Looks good work mate
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#984 15th February 2012, 18:44

most bay down to bare metal now,

pretty soild bay really few patches needed, started seam welding and preping for my strenthing kit and also for sandys bodies, couple pics anyways.

neali ready for smoothing over when ready for paint prep stage.
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#985 15th February 2012, 18:49

no messing about I see! Always good to see people get jobs in and get cracking with it, hated taking the car into the garage and they wait like 2 days before they start anything!

Good work thus far
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#986 15th February 2012, 19:32

When the bays finished and that engines in this will probably be the best saxo on SaxP.

Fucking lol at the "racing seat" Mark! Can't believe it's still going!
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#987 15th February 2012, 19:57

Looking epic mark

#988 15th February 2012, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

no messing about I see! Always good to see people get jobs in and get cracking with it, hated taking the car into the garage and they wait like 2 days before they start anything!

Good work thus far

cheers for the posertive words so far, been abit slow really on this so far as been working on another big job this week, and still have some matts ax bits to finish off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshB

When the bays finished and that engines in this will probably be the best saxo on SaxP.

Fucking lol at the "racing seat" Mark! Can't believe it's still going!

haha yer mate still got it use it all time saves my knees totali dying lol

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#989 15th February 2012, 20:12

Coming along nicely!

Exhaust ports done as far as I can before the valve seats are cut. The scariest part of the porting.
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#990 15th February 2012, 20:15

Beautiful
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#991 16th February 2012, 07:48

More pics from mark...

Scuttle
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#992 16th February 2012, 08:04

what spec/size valves are going in? or is that top secret?
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#993 16th February 2012, 08:19

I very much doubt sandy will / can say, but you never know your luck Matt
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#994 16th February 2012, 09:19

That patch size reminds me of my AX progress is coming along nicely all round then mate
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#995 16th February 2012, 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

That patch size reminds me of my AX progress is coming along nicely all round then mate

I'm not sure that's even possible mate lol

Yep very exciting times, its all coming together nicely so far... I picked up a new set of wheels on Tuesday night as well
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#996 16th February 2012, 09:47

Rods have just arrived. This is my latest design, massively lighter than the lightest off the shelf "kit car" style aftermarket rods I've seen and beautifully made, with proper bolts.
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#997 16th February 2012, 10:44

great pictures and attention to detail,i do love new parts

yet another awsom build
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#998 16th February 2012, 17:20

awesome!!!

I'll look forward to hearing this barking around Cadwell this summer then

Ash
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#999 16th February 2012, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

great pictures and attention to detail,i do love new parts

yet another awsom build

It's all starting to fall into place which is pleasing, still a long way to go though mind you

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

awesome!!!

I'll look forward to hearing this barking around Cadwell this summer then

Ash

Fingers crossed Ash, I've already got a fair bit planned tbh, Hopefully I can squeeze a track day in between fcs and the ring trip, then after the ring trip I'm heading back out to oz for a bit
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#1000 16th February 2012, 19:28

Most of the weight seems to have come off the cap sandy. almost as thin as the bearing lol

#1001 16th February 2012, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

It's all starting to fall into place which is pleasing, still a long way to go though mind you

Fingers crossed Ash, I've already got a fair bit planned tbh, Hopefully I can squeeze a track day in between fcs and the ring trip, then after the ring trip I'm heading back out to oz for a bit

Got afew plans for mine

need to talk to you about a beam... and tb's

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#1002 17th February 2012, 06:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

Most of the weight seems to have come off the cap sandy. almost as thin as the bearing lol

Alot of rods carry surplus material over the cap. If it's properly butressed around the bolt, then it makes it stronger, but most aren't and have a neat stress raiser created by the rod bolt counterbore; like these "kit car" replica rods:

Also the reduced piston and rod mass of my designs reduce stress. If you take the peak inertia of a Wossner "Kit Car" piston and PEC rod at 9000rpm, mine won't see that until 10,000rpm on the same stroke. And because I target high torque figures over using revs to achieve power, my engines tend to be limited about 500rpm lower than others. The resulting inertia at the rev limit is about 27% less. That's a healthy margin of safety, before you consider the manufacturing/material quality and bolts.

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#1003 17th February 2012, 09:55

you really are amazing Sandy

Ive never yet read a post of yours and thought wft or eh??

All you posts are very informative.. with just the right amount of technical info to keep the technical minded of us entertained, without totally baffling the less tech minded!!

Keep it up

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#1004 17th February 2012, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

Got afew plans for mine

need to talk to you about a beam... and tb's

Talk to me then PM dude

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#1005 17th February 2012, 20:01

It's amazing the amount of sharp edges and vertexes you can find on some expensive mechanical components. really is shocking coming from some companies that must run these through FEA and just say "good enough"
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#1006 18th February 2012, 07:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsi16v

what spec/size valves are going in? or is that top secret?

I won't be saying the valve sizes I'll be using, but single piece stainless. The exact sizes I use aren't available as a direct fit, so I have to re-machine valves designed for other applications. I use various sizes according to spec, it's a fallacy that bigger valves equal more power, there are so many side effects at work that valves sizes need to be developed alongside the cam profiles, CR and chamber/porting/seat work to get the delivery you want. I don't use "big valves" as most people would; moderation is the key. Anything over the standard seat insert sizes means oversizing the inserts, and I don't like changing valve seat inserts unless I have to, it adds alot of cost and risk to the process. So most of my development has been based on valves that fit on the standard inserts safely.
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#1007 18th February 2012, 08:57

That the reason i ask. I wasn't sure how much bigger (if any) you could go on the inlet side of a JP4.

Keep the pics coming, its turning me on
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#1008 18th February 2012, 17:55

Will do

I wouldn't go any bigger than standard inlet on a JP4 unless you really have a good reason to do so.
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#1009 19th February 2012, 20:54

New set of pro race 1.2 wheels and t1r tyres have arrived, mainly for the trips to track days, ring trips and the odd show...

Also means I can now run my r888's for longer
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#1010 19th February 2012, 21:11

wheel whore
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#1011 19th February 2012, 21:59

Haha I know Ash, I now own 9 team dynamic pro race 1.2's, 5 with r888's on (1 wheel & r888 brand new and never used) plus 4 with t1r's on lol
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#1012 19th February 2012, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Haha I know Ash, I now own 9 team dynamic pro race 1.2's, 5 with r888's on (1 wheel & r888 brand new and never used) plus 4 with t1r's on lol

Ment to say to you that one in the boot needs using or least un strapping, as making marks on tryes.

Work will resume on yours once I can get myn out as the trolly jack has broken and can't get car down lol and other jacks having new seals fitted lol. All steel ect should be here tus.
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#1013 19th February 2012, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Haha I know Ash, I now own 9 team dynamic pro race 1.2's, 5 with r888's on (1 wheel & r888 brand new and never used) plus 4 with t1r's on lol

Very excessive however I do love the 1.2s.....looking forward to the future updates/pics
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#1014 19th February 2012, 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Haha I know Ash, I now own 9 team dynamic pro race 1.2's, 5 with r888's on (1 wheel & r888 brand new and never used) plus 4 with t1r's on lol

Im about to buy my 3rd set of comp2's

that'll be 12 comp2's

4 with toyo cf1's
4 with R888's
new 4 - coming with road tyres, but will probally end up 888'd aswell

plus i got another 4 rims with kumho ecsta v70's, oh....

and a stack of 8 r888's waiting to go on rims

#1015 19th February 2012, 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

Ment to say to you that one in the boot needs using or least un strapping, as making marks on tryes.

Work will resume on yours once I can get myn out as the trolly jack has broken and can't get car down lol and other jacks having new seals fitted lol. All steel ect should be here tus.

Ok mate I'll sort it when I get the car back

Cool sounds good I can't wait to get it back and start fitting things to it now!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

Very excessive

however I do love the 1.2s.....looking forward to the future updates/pics

Haha team pro race 1.2's lol!

Ash - now that's a proper wheel whore right there!! Want to sell any of those r888's?

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#1016 19th February 2012, 23:13

Cant fault 1.2s!!!!!!!!
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#1017 22nd February 2012, 15:51

steel came this morning for the car, so we have started to fit our strenthing kit to joshs car.
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#1018 22nd February 2012, 15:59

Looking great Mark
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#1019 22nd February 2012, 16:03

Nice work mark!!!!

This thread has being a pleasure to read from start to now. It's really nice to see the car is being built for the use its intended for. As well as sandy giving us a insight to how he builds the engine' with a eye for detail that is next to none.

Keep up the good work and look forward to seeing future progress.
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#1020 22nd February 2012, 16:08

just like to add for record the bits in crumple zone are just sat there all paint has been stripped off now for nice fresh welding.

-cheers bedford.

#1021 22nd February 2012, 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bedford126

Nice work mark!!!!

This thread has being a pleasure to read from start to now. It's really nice to see the car is being built for the use its intended for. As well as sandy giving us a insight to how he builds the engine' with a eye for detail that is next to none.

Keep up the good work and look forward to seeing future progress.

Thanks mate, it's all starting to come together now, the carbon bonnet, chassis repairs and new engine will really finish the car off nicely..... For now

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#1022 22nd February 2012, 18:00

Such a good thread, always great seeing the updates.
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#1023 22nd February 2012, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Thanks mate, it's all starting to come together now, the carbon bonnet, chassis repairs and new engine will really finish the car off nicely..... For now

Such a whore with carbon bonnet, boot n roof although it'll look epic.

The finished spec is going to be second to none!
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#1024 23rd February 2012, 03:32

Can't wait for fcs..... Will be hmmmmmm interesting
That is all

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#1025 23rd February 2012, 15:25

Awesome build mate
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#1026 23rd February 2012, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich112

Such a good thread, always great seeing the updates.

Thanks buddy, appreciate the comment

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Such a whore with carbon bonnet, boot n roof although it'll look epic.

The finished spec is going to be second to none!

Haha, im trying to do this years build as best as I possibly can this time around Once I got the carbon roof I always wanted a carbon boot + bonnet to have carbon all the way down the middle of the car lol.

The car should be down to around 800kgs this summer with any luck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Collavts

Awesome build mate

Thanks mate
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#1027 25th February 2012, 12:03

While the Car is away with Mark & the Engine being built by Sandy... we are sorting the gearbox out...

Ready to be sent off to be chrygentically strengthened
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#1028 25th February 2012, 13:42

I want this in my life too lol
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#1029 25th February 2012, 22:26

Awsom josh,some great information in your thread as ever

realy cant wait for more progress

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#1030 25th February 2012, 22:30

Looking good mate

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#1031 25th February 2012, 22:32

never used a press when i did my box.... probally lot easier thou thinking about it
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#1032 26th February 2012, 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

Awsom josh,some great information in your thread as ever

realy cant wait for more progress

Cheers Chris, Sandy is trying to make his posts as informative as possible without giving too many of his secrets away

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

I want this in my life too lol

Yours will be plenty quick enough with the plans you've got mate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairmorn308

Looking good mate

Thanks mate, thinking about a Sandy engine yourself are you?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

never used a press when i did my box.... probally lot easier thou thinking about it

Yeah it's just alot easier doing it this way, saves potentially damaging the bearing
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#1033 28th February 2012, 15:41

I love this car lol

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#1034 28th February 2012, 18:40

More pictures from mark... the chassis was in a bit of a mess from the previous owner not using the jacking points to jack the car up!

Bad...

Even worse

Fixed

Marks Strengthening kit
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#1035 28th February 2012, 18:45

mmmmm rusty metal! bit of a mess really, always scares me probbing about with screw drivers and lever bars, always come across abit of rotting lol
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#1036 28th February 2012, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

mmmmm rusty metal! bit of a mess really, always scares me probbing about with screw drivers and lever bars, always come across abit of rotting lol

didt even need tht my finger was enough was litterali just the under seal hold it all together,

anyways tomora i will start making the metal patches for it.
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#1037 28th February 2012, 19:48

good progress.

realy does make me wonder how bad some of the fords on the road would be lol.

makes me want a bare shell rebuild

great to see its getting sorted

#1038 28th February 2012, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

good progress.

realy does make me wonder how bad some of the fords on the road would be lol.

makes me want a bare shell rebuild

great to see its getting sorted

Once the underside of the chassis and engine bay / wheel arches have been done it has basically been a bare shell rebuild over this year and last year, including a brand new engine/cage & carbon bonnet/roof/boot.

Quite an overhaul tbh Chris lol

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#1039 28th February 2012, 20:02

id hate to see what mines really like underneath!
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#1040 28th February 2012, 20:48

Shame about that rust, mine is in good shape for its age tbf! its all luck i geuss and who owned the car previously! im sure it will be sorted an be better than ever!

#1041 28th February 2012, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by miamibluebaby

Shame about that rust, mine is in good shape for its age tbf! its all luck i geuss and who owned the car previously! im sure it will be sorted an be better than ever!

Of course

Yeah I thought mine was in good shape until Mark removed the underseal, it just covers everything up!

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#1042 29th February 2012, 07:02

Cryogenic strengthening- I wonder who did that first on here................

great progress mate I am up barles on Sunday want me to bring some casings up?
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#1043 29th February 2012, 11:42

If you could mate, or check them to see if they have that extra magnet before bringing them up
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#1044 29th February 2012, 20:12

Just had an email from France "Your Carbon Bonnet is now ready to leave our warehouse"

I'll update with pictures when it arrives at Marks for Lacquering

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#1045 1st March 2012, 00:47

excellent work yet again JP, always put 110% into the things you do, looking forward to seeing the end result ;D keep up the good work
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#1046 1st March 2012, 08:26

Oh my, alot of work there!

A bit pre-emptive, but here's a J4 of mine I've just dyno'd, that's similar to the spec I'm building Josh's JP4 to:
http://youtu.be/wgpjM0zZ9To

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#1048 1st March 2012, 10:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy309

Oh my, alot of work there!

A bit pre-emptive, but here's a J4 of mine I've just dyno'd, that's similar to the spec I'm building Josh's JP4 to:
http://youtu.be/wgpjM0zZ9To

I just laughed like a little boy listening to that

haha

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#1049 1st March 2012, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I just laughed like a little boy listening to that haha

thats cos you are a little boy JP....

with (in a nicolas cage.. gone in 60 secs voice) too match bladdy maney
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#1050 1st March 2012, 14:46

saw that on face book, enjoyed with the volume on full chat
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#1051 2nd March 2012, 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

thats cos you are a little boy JP....

with (in a nicolas cage.. gone in 60 secs voice) too match bladdy maney

I'm not actually earning that much money mate, I just work bloody hard - like today - I'm working 7-3:30 at my normal job, then starting my second job 5-midnight. Then back in at 7am - 11am on sat morning, but then I do have the rest of the weekend off which is pretty rare

Quote:

Originally Posted by boz

saw that on face book, enjoyed with the volume on full chat

Hehe, I did the same! Sandy's just finishing off his race engines then it's full stream ahead doing my engine
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#1052 2nd March 2012, 09:53

Looking good dude

Bet the drive seems empty without it sat there
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#1053 2nd March 2012, 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

Looking good dude

Bet the drive seems empty without it sat there

Yeah it's weird not having it sat in the corner waiting for some attention lol
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#1054 2nd March 2012, 10:32

I can imagine mate
Like if mine wasnt sat in the unit id have the same thing
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#1055 2nd March 2012, 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

I can imagine mate
Like if mine wasnt sat in the unit id have the same thing

this main difference between you two... if joshs anit sat there he doset go and buy another one haha .

rust patch is all done under footwell drivers side, today will be stripping rest the sealer paint/crap from front archs and bay, trail fitting a satchshifter.

#1056 2nd March 2012, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

this main difference between you two... if joshs anit sat there he doset go and buy another one haha

.

rust patch is all done under footwell drivers side, today will be stripping rest the sealer paint/crap from front archs and bay, trail fitting a satchshifter.

Lol...

Awesome Mark, love how quickly you've cracked on with it

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#1057 2nd March 2012, 19:37

WOW that engine is emmence.

thats the vapour coming out the boddies? fuel

looking forward to more progress
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#1058 2nd March 2012, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

this main difference between you two... if joshs anit sat there he doset go and buy another one haha .

Since its been sat ive bought 2 cars and what??

and as ive said a few times i bought the vtr so i can have a cheap toy whilst i sort the pug properly plus it will make me money at the end unless i bend it at mallory or something and ive got a buyer lined up hes just trying to shift his car after ive done mallory
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#1059 3rd March 2012, 05:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

WOW that engine is emmence.

thats the vapour coming out the boddies? fuel

looking forward to more progress

Fuel stand off, you notice it alot more on the dyno than in the car and a good air filter keeps it all in.
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#1060 3rd March 2012, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy309

Fuel stand off, you notice it alot more on the dyno than in the car and a good air filter keeps it all in.

cheers sandy,makes sence now-was unsure what was happening

keep them pics coming
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#1061 3rd March 2012, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

cheers sandy,makes sence now-was unsure what was happening

keep them pics coming

He's just finishing his race engines off then it's full throttle ahead to get mine done

#1062 4th March 2012, 08:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I'm not actually earning that much money mate, I just work bloody hard - like today - I'm working 7-3:30 at my normal job, then starting my second job 5-midnight. Then back in at 7am - 11am on sat morning, but then I do have the rest of the weekend off which is pretty rare

Fair enuff

I used to beable todo that... started work on a friday morning at 5am before now... climbed into bed at 2pm saturday... got called back out at 4.30pm.. home at 8pm... then called out again 8am sunday... home 7pm

LOL! Not anymore.. have the kids living with me so overtime has gone out the window.

£1000 a month down

Least the money is going to a good cause

... enjoy rest of the weekend haha

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#1063 4th March 2012, 17:24

nice work
were the hell do you get money from Josh? that motor must me costing circa £8k? + welding ect

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#1064 4th March 2012, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattwesty

nice work
were the hell do you get money from Josh? that motor must me costing circa £8k? + welding ect

I honestly don't know where it comes from lol

Cheers Matt - you at any shows this year? It's been way too long mate!
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#1065 4th March 2012, 20:49

I love this car!! FACT!
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#1066 5th March 2012, 15:21

Found a video of a 306 D turbo starting behind me at the ring in 2011... (click on the picture to view)

Lol
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#1067 5th March 2012, 21:02

Another Update:-

Carbon bonnet arrived from France today, looking good, needs a bit of tidying up, areo catches fitted and lacquering before it can be fitted

Ultra lightweight!

2kgs!
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#1068 5th March 2012, 21:04

yeyahh,

you soon wont legally be allowed to call it a mango jp.
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#1069 5th March 2012, 21:09

nice! which company did you get it from?
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#1070 5th March 2012, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olly

yeyahh,

you soon wont legally be allowed to call it a mango jp.

Haha, this is the last of the carbon stuff.... i think lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

nice! which company did you get it from?

From "AC Sport" in France mate
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#1071 5th March 2012, 21:31

nice video tanned man
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#1072 5th March 2012, 21:37

Bonnet looks good Josh..

Our carbon goodies must of been sent out the same time as my package from ac sport arrived today
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#1073 5th March 2012, 21:52

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Originally Posted by dannygti

Bonnet looks good Josh..

Our carbon goodies must of been sent out the same time as my package from ac sport arrived today

ha! Thats awesome, what did you get?
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#1074 5th March 2012, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

ha! Thats awesome, what did you get?

Bought a Saxo kit car spoiler in carbon.

The bonnet will look great when lacquered mate

I reckon a mango twin strip like on the oldskool BMW race cars would look cool as fuck.. Nothing over the top just nice and neat.. Would really stand out against the carbon

#1075 5th March 2012, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

Bought a Saxo kit car spoiler in carbon.

The bonnet will look great when lacquered mate

I reckon a mango twin strip like on the oldskool BMW race cars would look cool as fuck.. Nothing over the top just nice and neat.. Would really stand out against the carbon

Got a pic? I think i know what you mean... definitely would look good against the carbon.

There is a few imperfections in the carbon but mark reckons with enough layers of lacquer it should be fine

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#1076 5th March 2012, 22:13

Not yet Josh, I'm offshore.. My mom will send me a pic through soon.

Yer no doubt with lacquer it will look great but more importantly it's
Light and it makes your car faster.

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#1077 5th March 2012, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

Not yet Josh, I'm offshore.. My mom will send me a pic through soon.

Yer no doubt with lacquer it will look great but more importantly it's
Light and it makes your car faster.

Definitely the most important thing, i wont be happy until the car weights 800kg's or less with half a tank of fuel!

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#1078 5th March 2012, 22:37

gunna look swish with the bonnet too man
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#1079 6th March 2012, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I honestly don't know where it comes from lol

Cheers Matt - you at any shows this year? It's been way too long mate!

Im not too sure yet, Ian is rebuilding his Saxo atm, (full strip down,/rebuild) if that is done in time FCS could be on cards for track action
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#1080 6th March 2012, 21:08

Who's this ^^^

Josh crap picture of spoiler is on my Facebook (mum took the pic, what did I expect)
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#1081 6th March 2012, 21:21

lol Danny

had a look on that site, spoiler would look good on a carbon boot

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#1082 7th March 2012, 08:35

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Originally Posted by mattwesty

lol Danny

had a look on that site, spoiler would look good on a carbon boot

It's THE mr cleaning whore lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattwesty

Im not too sure yet, Ian is rebuilding his Saxo atm, (full strip down,/rebuild) if that is done in time FCS could be on cards for track action

Yeah Matt Newton is doing it isn't he? Should be a proper beast, what engine is he having in it?

Would be great to catch up with some of the old ssc/shed/bert Motorsport crew

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

Who's this ^^^

Josh crap picture of spoiler is on my Facebook (mum took the pic, what did I expect)

Lol, I'll look when I get a spare minute mate
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#1083 8th March 2012, 20:56

standard engine for now, spending time on getting shell and chassis perfect, dont need big power to show people up

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#1084 10th March 2012, 13:28

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Originally Posted by mattwesty

standard engine for now, spending time on getting shell and chassis perfect, dont need big power to show people up

Definitely agree with that, good suspension / chassis & some sticky tyres will make it rapid
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#1085 14th March 2012, 18:23

Quick pic of my car in Marks new unit
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#1086 14th March 2012, 19:22

looks like a skip... there yellow too, cant wait to see the finished results and actually the whole car together!
im calling shotgun on first proper blast
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#1087 14th March 2012, 20:39

we also managed to remove the fuel tank aswell. tomora all been well will have the full day to work on the car, get the beam down and see what the damage is like there, hopfully start doing some welding aagin tomora on it. didt fancy it today after removing tank and spilling some the fuel
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#1088 14th March 2012, 21:49

Hopefully you didnt spill too much there shouldn't be too much, if anything to do underneath from the front arches backwards Mark
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#1089 14th March 2012, 22:12

think there will be some work round where fuel tank whent but will see in morning i guess! will get pics up asap. just remembered though i have meeting in morning and sparkys in again tomora to sort some lights out for me .
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#1090 14th March 2012, 22:45

Awesome mate, your the unit all sorted by the sounds of it. Keep me updated
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#1091 17th March 2012, 13:16

Its a good job i got Mark to look at the whole chassis... Its amazing what you can find .....another hole nicely hidden behind the fuel filler piping in the drivers side rear arch
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#1092 17th March 2012, 21:42

needs a "lower than your grans nips" in the back window to get any sort of cred in my books good to see you still putting 100% behind it!
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#1093 17th March 2012, 22:11

bloody hell josh! a tonne of work going into that shell, cracking stuff dude!
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#1094 18th March 2012, 13:22

Haha joe!! I'll search eBay for another one

Ash - no half measures here
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#1095 18th March 2012, 19:33

been bit quite from my side things as been so busy with moving etc, anyways as just said quite nasty patch rust on rear arch but will be felt with this week along with the rest the underside, i have smahed my iphone so pics abit crap tbh...

front arch pass side pics, rust removed, templates for metal patches,

under rear area now beams off.

got an extra set hand this week so in theory all under side will be stripped of sealer and re sealed and painted this week, then move on to finishing the engine bay off.
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#1096 18th March 2012, 21:51

Great stuff Mark How's the underside of the boot looking? I'd text but I've just changed my number so it won't be switched over until tomorrow
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#1097 18th March 2012, 23:03

Jesus that car was in shitstate! will be sooo much better when done
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#1098 19th March 2012, 06:31

/\ shut up

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#1099 19th March 2012, 08:13

To be fair it was it in a pretty bad way - not that we knew at the time as the underseal covers everything up. I'd imagine if you took the underseal off all saxo's at least 50% of them would be in similar bad shape!
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#1100 19th March 2012, 08:52

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Jesus that car was in shitstate! will be sooo much better when done

suprised you havent told him to just drive it....
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#1101 19th March 2012, 09:38

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Originally Posted by AlexB

suprised you havent told him to just drive it....

it won't be as fast or handle as well as his old gold thing.

-----

Coming on properly well now JP, glad to see how much attention is being given to make it spot on! Would love to see it when it's all done and being used!

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#1102 19th March 2012, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

suprised you havent told him to just drive it....

No i'll reserve that one just for you.
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#1103 19th March 2012, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

/\ shut up

Or.....

Looks like your own mates like clogging your thread up more than i do although i dont do it on purpose.

Keep up the good work and maybe teach alexb to drive on atrack sometime instead of waxing his canary with his man fat actually while im at it as he doesntcare about what people think about him and what he does in life then i wont expect any comebacks to this
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#1104 19th March 2012, 13:02

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Originally Posted by jayyoung

Coming on properly well now JP, glad to see how much attention is being given to make it spot on! Would love to see it when it's all done and being used!

Cheers buddy with massive help from Sandy & Mark we are trying to do it as best as possible this year

#1105 19th March 2012, 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Keep up the good work and maybe teach alexb to drive on atrack sometime instead of waxing his canary with his man fat actually while im at it as he doesntcare about what people think about him and what he does in life then i wont expect any comebacks to this

did you just acuse me of being fat?
just so your aware i have s trackday on saturday too

i dont care but when people dig i will respond
i think your an utter twat and a lot of the forum agree
they would also agree that in an utter twat aswell but they dont keep cropping up witg stupid comments like you do
yes i started this one with my reply
but tbh what josh is doing now is what ill be doing next month and you might understand that after seeing his

sorry to clog and spam your thread josh this guy just doesbmy fucking head in

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#1106 19th March 2012, 14:24

What it is alex is that you guys misunderstand everything i say and man fat is spunk btw lol

good on ya for the trackday
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#1107 19th March 2012, 14:49

never heard that expression before id of just said spunk its easier

its not us misuderstanding its how you word things
everything you post is cuntish or just stupid much like "oh what a mess" its like you only post the bad side of things never say on the end "glad your sorting it properly will be mint when done" ect
plus a lot of the time you bang on about how shit saxos are and bum renaults... its a citroen forum
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#1108 19th March 2012, 15:05

I said its in shitstate and will look so much better when done?

Lets be honest though renaults are better especially twingo rs i hear they are the dogs dangleys!

Seriously though i just cant wait to see the car done and the inevitably awesome track vids after!

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#1109 19th March 2012, 15:48

bout the only time you have though fella
normally your a knob your reply to tom kinda shows the fact you are

im not saying im any better either i know a lot on here hate me but i at least dont crop up with stupid opinions

anyway ill leave joshs thread and get back to work
last few days here so sax-p is a distraction so it goes faster
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#1110 19th March 2012, 22:04
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#1111 19th March 2012, 22:21

i will upload some better quailty pics later.
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#1112 24th March 2012, 13:00

More progress on the underside of the chassis
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#1113 24th March 2012, 13:03

Saw this on Marks Facebook, looks very good JP
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#1114 24th March 2012, 19:08

How much does something like this set you back with mark?
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#1115 24th March 2012, 20:41

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Originally Posted by MR_N

Saw this on Marks Facebook, looks very good JP

Yeah I'm very impressed with the work so far, top notch!

Joe - depends exactly what needs doing - too many variables to say a set price
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#1116 25th March 2012, 16:53

Been up to Marks this afternoon; I'll let the pics do the talking...

Engine bay mainly done just a few bits to tidy up

Underneath all Stripped & stonechipped ready for paint

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#1117 25th March 2012, 19:28

Looking good josh!. I cant wait to see that engine in there

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#1118 25th March 2012, 21:26

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Originally Posted by xsi16v

Looking good josh!. I cant wait to see that engine in there

and me Matt, Soooooooooooooo excited You sorted out a new supercharger belt / bracketory for yours yet?
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#1119 25th March 2012, 21:30

looks really clean!! looking forward to seeing some paint! and also looking forward to seeing it at fcs!!

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#1120 25th March 2012, 22:25

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

and me Matt, Soooooooooooooo excited You sorted out a new supercharger belt / bracketory for yours yet?

should be all sorted fingers crossed, hopefully ready for some trackdays soon so i can try it out.

Pulling the garage down this week so the car is getting tucked up in my grans garage for a bit
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#1121 25th March 2012, 22:49

Marks work is second to none on here. Must put in a shit load of hours and everything seems to be done right and not "RIGHT NOW". Nothing but respect for you mate.

Car is coming along great I find myself on your thread most day's looking for a update from sandy most days.

#1122 26th March 2012, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsi16v

should be all sorted fingers crossed, hopefully ready for some trackdays soon so i can try it out.

Pulling the garage down this week so the car is getting tucked up in my grans garage for a bit

Pulling the garage down? Wtf mate

haha. I'll let you know which track day I'm doing at the end of May, will be a last minute thing though

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bedford126

Marks work is second to none on here. Must put in a shit load of hours and everything seems to be done right and not "RIGHT NOW". Nothing but respect for you mate.

Car is coming along great I find myself on your thread most day's looking for a update from sandy most days.

Awesome mate, hope you enjoy the read? It's been a long road over winter but now the good weather is coming and the chassis is nearly done there's light beginning to appear at the end of the tunnel

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#1123 26th March 2012, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Pulling the garage down? Wtf mate haha. I'll let you know which track day I'm doing at the end of May, will be a last minute thing though

Having a 4 car garage built. Hopefully be able to offer more services with a bigger workshop. Also ramp, rollover spit etc for the bigger jobs.

Yeah let me know if you book anything mate.
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#1124 26th March 2012, 21:19

The is looking really good!
Rust repair is a thankless task, but you should have a good solid shell once it's done!
Have you got much more to do once the repairs are done? Or will it just be putting it together?
When are you hoping to have it back on the road?
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#1125 26th March 2012, 21:31

looks good not so tanned anymore pasty pale man
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#1126 27th March 2012, 06:45

looks great josh nice work so far can not wait to see this on some british tracks again!

#1127 28th March 2012, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsi16v

Having a 4 car garage built. Hopefully be able to offer more services with a bigger workshop. Also ramp, rollover spit etc for the bigger jobs.

Yeah let me know if you book anything mate.

That's awesome, is it going in the same place as the old double garage?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaniemoo

The is looking really good!
Rust repair is a thankless task, but you should have a good solid shell once it's done!
Have you got much more to do once the repairs are done? Or will it just be putting it together?
When are you hoping to have it back on the road?

Thanks mate, yours is coming along nicely as well

It is a task alot of people overlook but definitely worth doing!

Once the repairs are finished Im picking the car up next Sunday (8th April) hopefully, then I've got to put everything back on, like front suspension, rear beam, brake lines, steering stuff, master cylinder, satshifter, all the interior back in etc etc.

I've got about 3 weeks to do all of that which takes me until the end of April which is when the new engine arrives, aiming to have it all done and on track mid-end of May

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

looks good not so tanned anymore pasty pale man

Haha, tanned man again by the end of this year when I'm
Back in Oz mate lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

looks great josh nice work so far can not wait to see this on some british tracks again!

And me Tom, hopefully it will suprise a fair amount of people

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#1128 1st April 2012, 20:40

looking good JP, is car staying same colour when it gets painted?
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#1129 1st April 2012, 22:16

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Originally Posted by mattwesty

looking good JP, is car staying same colour when it gets painted?

Yeah staying Mango the engine bay & black underneath + arches
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#1130 2nd April 2012, 14:41

Last bit of welding (ecu engine mount plates) now done...

Time to smoothening everything off for 1 last time & then primer + paint

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#1131 3rd April 2012, 10:36

looking realy realy good josh,very inspirational.once its all together id imagine it will be very solid

mango beast

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#1132 3rd April 2012, 10:44

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Originally Posted by crisppug

looking realy realy good josh,very inspirational.once its all together id imagine it will be very solid

mango beast

Cheers Chris, I think more than anything it's nice to know I'm now working with a 100% solid chassis
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#1133 3rd April 2012, 11:25

looking good! do you have a target complete date yet or just seeing how it goes?
I can't wait to see it done... makes me proud to be a fellow mango haha
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#1134 3rd April 2012, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liamjrhodes

looking good! do you have a target complete date yet or just seeing how it goes?
I can't wait to see it done... makes me proud to be a fellow mango haha

Thanks mate, target date is FCS, but I'd like to squeeze a track day in before fcs around the end of May/early June if possible.

The engine bay is now nearly finished, I think you'll agree Marks done an epic job

Scuttle extended while retaining the standard wiper motor

Holes filled in & smoothed over on the engine bay chassis legs..
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#1135 3rd April 2012, 20:14

What engine mounts u going for jp??

Hope the vibration don't shake all that filler loose
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#1136 3rd April 2012, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

What engine mounts u going for jp??

Hope the vibration don't shake all that filler loose

he's using pug sport mounts. look same as oem ones but stiffer and need this plates welded in.

re you filler comment, all the holes are welded up, ground down and then a skim of filler is applied, no more then 0.5mm of filler anywhere if u look back a few pages you will see my metal working skilles.

also when i have a client come to me, they explain what the cars been built for and its specs, i would not use glaze (not bodie filler) if its going to crack ones the cleints spent there hard earned cash 2 weeks later. josh uses the car for track and runs 250+ spring so i would neva use filler for this reason but such a think layer of glaze will never crack... no offence but body work is a highly skilled job to do RIGHT, and it annoys me when people think its very easy job to get it spot on and make smart arse comments.

anyways engine bay had now been etch primed any impercection be sanded out and will be primed in the morning, thurs will bring underside painted.
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#1137 3rd April 2012, 21:28

Mark, always admire your work!

Jp this is going to be a work of art on track!
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#1138 3rd April 2012, 21:58

bring on the next few months re-assembly time soon canttt wait
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#1139 3rd April 2012, 21:59

awaits josh txting/ ringing tell me hes scatches paint fiting somet
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#1140 3rd April 2012, 22:01

Just to Answer Ash's question - they are group N pugsport mounts with a group A solid lower mount

I've run them for over 3 years now and think they are just about right, solid enough to reduce engine movement, without rattling my teeth out lol

Mark - I'm over the moon with how that has come out mate, absalutely brilliant mate
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#1141 3rd April 2012, 22:01

Just to Answer Ash's question - they are group N pugsport mounts with a group A solid lower mount

I've run them for over 3 years now and think they are just about right, solid enough to reduce engine movement, without rattling my teeth out lol

Mark - I'm over the moon with how that has come out mate, absalutely brilliant mate
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#1142 3rd April 2012, 22:59

Whoa

Mark chill dude.... Wasn't a dig at your workmanship... Just a laugh with josh. Sorry if offence caused

Finished article looks banging btw
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#1143 3rd April 2012, 23:24

I don't think he took it as a dig Ash, was just going over exactly what he had done to get such a great end result

Ash - you at fcs mate?
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#1144 5th April 2012, 19:35

The work marks done and the effort he's put in is amazing!
Great stuff! Can't wait for you too get the car back and get it built back up ready to hit the tracks again, be great too see you flying round donnington, hopefully that's still the plan? And timeline is looking good? Engine still coming along nicely?
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#1145 5th April 2012, 20:13

this car is and will continue to be a credit to you josh

fair play to mark and the effort and workmanship put in, will be mint when done!!
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#1146 7th April 2012, 10:34

Spotted this today

5:19
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#1147 7th April 2012, 13:43

Haha awesome, I'd just overtaken the blue scooby there
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#1148 7th April 2012, 17:35

Love it
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#1149 8th April 2012, 15:16

The ring has never really appealed to me. After seeing all the supercars i could take the piss out of i think ive just changed my mind!!

When are we going?
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#1150 8th April 2012, 15:35

You coming Matt? Get on it mate!!! Check the west mids section for all the details mate

p.s Matt - they would take the piss out of you until you've done 50 odd laps and learnt the track

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#1151 11th April 2012, 14:55

Sneak peek...
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#1152 11th April 2012, 20:55

good news, undersides all painted to now,
bad news totali killed my phones so no pictures. less can get it working lol
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#1153 11th April 2012, 22:06

Just Read thro the hole Thread Its amazing mate, my vts will be coming off the road shortly to have the engine bay done just like yours going to look pukka once its done
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#1154 12th April 2012, 07:59

Coming on nicely mate.
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#1155 12th April 2012, 20:14

and back from the booth

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#1156 12th April 2012, 20:16

Mint!!!!
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#1157 12th April 2012, 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathias

Mint!!!!

nooo... its mango not mint haha
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#1158 12th April 2012, 20:33

Another stunning job mark!

Can't believe how good the bays/underside look when properly painted! If only they left the factory looking this good!

James
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#1159 12th April 2012, 20:33

Looking good matey!
Got to be the nicest part of any project, the fresh paint bit!
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#1160 12th April 2012, 20:37

Bet it feels rapid! very nice
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#1161 12th April 2012, 20:54

Looks a spot on job mark,

Look better once the engine in there!! Blasting round the ring!

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#1162 12th April 2012, 22:12

Wow! I shall be making a note of you Mark

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#1163 12th April 2012, 22:56

Looks awesome mate, very very good work again from Mark :-)
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#1164 13th April 2012, 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim-Bob

Another stunning job mark!

Can't believe how good the bays/underside look when properly painted! If only they left the factory looking this good!

James

cheers mate, yer dose look sooo much better once all painted, yer if only they did be nice lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaniemoo

Looking good matey!
Got to be the nicest part of any project, the fresh paint bit!

cheers mate, yer totali agree, cant beat the feeling of looking at pics of when stuff comes covered in rust anf full of holes o see it in paint and done,

take matts ax for example, when he brought tht it was a seriours shead full holes and rust as he knows, now he had a shell that look better then when it was new, and i can look at pics sit back n think i did all tht great feeling!

now get back to your work and paint yours.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Looks a spot on job mark,

Look better once the engine in there!! Blasting round the ring!

cheers mate, yous is next in firing line of my spray gun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

Looks awesome mate, very very good work again from Mark :-)

cheers dude, little quicker turn around then yours eh? get some fresh pics up!
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#1165 13th April 2012, 09:04

Nice one mark, josh engine bay looks so nice, so glad I took my car to you now

Get your iPhone sorted? Or totally broken?
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#1166 13th April 2012, 09:11

Looks awesome dude! Are you going to do the arches and underside mango too?
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#1167 13th April 2012, 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Looks awesome dude! Are you going to do the arches and underside mango too?

Lewis...
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#1168 13th April 2012, 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Nice one mark, josh engine bay looks so nice, so glad I took my car to you now

Get your iPhone sorted? Or totally broken?

cheers mate, nope totali broken now lol so am in shit phine wise atm lol
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#1169 13th April 2012, 10:23

I love this thread! Coming on nice just can wait to see this fruity lump in and some video's up!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

Quick question Mark, how do you treat inside the boxed in sections?

Can anything be sprayed in the holes to treat any rust and prevent it?
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#1170 13th April 2012, 14:25

WOW now thats a propper job! awsom,looks so fresh and clean - and no rust
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#1171 13th April 2012, 16:16

Thanks lads, appreciate all the comments. Marks certainly done an epic job

I'll get a load of pictures when I pick the car up on Sunday

Chris - yes mate rust free is great, means I know I have a great chassis to work with from now onwards
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#1172 15th April 2012, 14:51

engine in yet josh come onn get a move on...
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#1173 15th April 2012, 15:12

Lol mark, we start today I will be back at 6 to fit satchshift and seats and harnesses then just maybe start on loom and dash
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#1174 15th April 2012, 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

engine in yet josh come onn get a move on...

We were halfway through doing it, then we realised we hadnt got the bonnet to keep it covered up lol
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#1175 15th April 2012, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

We were halfway through doing it, then we realised we hadnt got the bonnet to keep it covered up lol

Didnt know you had it? How long was sandys turn around time?
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#1176 15th April 2012, 17:59

looks fantastic josh from face book and as we said layer it up yo

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#1177 15th April 2012, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Didnt know you had it? How long was sandys turn around time?

Haven't got it yet I was taking the piss out of Mark lol. Get it in 2-3 weeks

Picked up the car today...

Mark and Olly chatting

Olly kindly leant his services in return for Jäger

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

looks fantastic josh from face book and as we said layer it up yo

Sams done first layer of wax tonight

While I spent a good 3-4hours giving the cockpit a good clean and made it look somewhat like a car again

So we are now at the stage of getting ready to start on the main work to commence from tomorrow night

P.s if anyone has 1 standard fuel line that runs from the fuel filter through the cockpit to the bulkhead please Pm me
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#1178 15th April 2012, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

already an animal in the engine bay

will need another layer me thinks (minimum)

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#1179 15th April 2012, 21:31

A Sam powered VTS will be quicker than a Sandy engine
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#1180 15th April 2012, 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by piggy123

already an animal in the engine bay

will need another layer me thinks (minimum)

animal for sure.

Mule to be exact

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#1181 15th April 2012, 21:50

Looking mint jp, can't wait to see it.

When the mango is fresh and clean it looks soo good.

Still can't help think the car would look so much better withought the tints
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#1182 15th April 2012, 21:51

1mulepower = 200+ bhp
unfortunately i cant see that being true lol

back to the thread..... pictures just dont do marks work any justice, gorgeous

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#1183 15th April 2012, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olly

animal for sure.

Mule to be exact

ROLFMAYO

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

Looking mint jp, can't wait to see it.

When the mango is fresh and clean it looks soo good.

Still can't help think the car would look so much better withought the tints

Cheers Mr Gti-T, Tints make the 16year olds wet remember

lol. Nah in all honesty I like them because a) It hides the cage etc from outside (giving the more standard look) & b) it adds to the mango / black contrast imo

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#1184 15th April 2012, 22:06

looks good my pale pork pie loving friend
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#1185 15th April 2012, 22:07

Standard look? Oh please!
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#1186 15th April 2012, 22:09

You got to do what makes you happy.
Personally I think it's a shame hiding that sexy interiror. The cage is black so wouldn't stand out 'that' much anyway??
If you wanna make the 16yo wet just get a meg r26.r development car
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#1187 15th April 2012, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

looks good my pale pork pie loving friend

Lol Gav! Theres always next year for lcfc!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

Standard look? Oh please!

Its carbon wrap... honest lol

#1188 15th April 2012, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

You got to do what makes you happy.
Personally I think it's a shame hiding that sexy interiror. The cage is black so wouldn't stand out 'that' much anyway??
If you wanna make the 16yo wet just get a meg r26.r development car

True... I've always liked them and particularly now with the cage. If people get up close you can still look through but to the untrained eye they wouldn't know any different.

Haha your r26r was a beast, to this day i still don't know why you got rid of it lol

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#1189 15th April 2012, 22:22

Dannys R26.R was the shit Josh! absolute beast of a car! yeah next year unless 3 wins and results go our way
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#1190 15th April 2012, 22:58

Yeah, standard look......everything seems normal......BANG! CARBON/CARBON/CARBON
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#1191 16th April 2012, 09:17

Also I forgot to upload This showing how marks extended the scuttle
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#1192 16th April 2012, 09:44

Looks great josh

Gotta agree with the lads though, those tints are heinous and detract from the car if you ask me. It cheapens the look, which couldn't be further from the truth! Would look awesome with the cage visible too! You know we are right, loose them brother!
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#1193 16th April 2012, 10:02

Engine bay looks Dam FINE,nice to see you Sam
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#1194 16th April 2012, 15:34

What was the purpose of the scuttle modifications
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#1195 16th April 2012, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

If you wanna make the 16yo wet just get a meg r26.r development car

The 16 yo's round my way don't dig a cage and harnesses sadly
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#1196 16th April 2012, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

What was the purpose of the scuttle modifications

So he can run long trumpets and an air filter, and still have room behind it all!
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#1197 16th April 2012, 21:47

Few goodies have arrived while i was away over Easter LOL!
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#1198 16th April 2012, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Few goodies have arrived while i was away over Easter LOL!

A Few?!?! Half a bloody car there
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#1199 16th April 2012, 21:55

is that carpet finally going in the bin Josh??

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#1200 17th April 2012, 06:34

josh we dont want to look at a load of boxes show us the shiny bits yo

#1201 17th April 2012, 08:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

Yeah, standard look......everything seems normal......BANG! CARBON/CARBON/CARBON

Gives it away slightly doesn't it lol. I was thinking of painting the bonnet and boot, leaving a small strip through the paint, but then I think it would be rude to cover up all the weave?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Looks great josh

Gotta agree with the lads though, those tints are heinous and detract from the car if you ask me. It cheapens the look, which couldn't be further from the truth! Would look awesome with the cage visible too! You know we are right, loose them brother!

Cheers Lewis-I-Take-All-Year-To-Do-1-Job

I'll think about the tints, I still like the fact it hides the cage so the only bit you can see is the A pillar, and because its a weld in cage it follows the A pillar more than a bolt in cage so its not very visible

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

Engine bay looks Dam FINE,nice to see you Sam

Yeah unfortunately Sams contract ran out at work so he's been keeping himself busy by helping me Chris, he's at gokarting on Thursday so you can have a chat with him then

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJN

A Few?!?! Half a bloody car there

Lol I know, I know! Only need a few more bits now and should be all good to build it all up

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsi16v

is that carpet finally going in the bin Josh??

Pah, wash your mouth out with soap Matthew! The carpets staying for now mate, if I can't get it down to 800kgs I might have to take drastic measures... You coming the ring trip with us then mate?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

josh we dont want to look at a load of boxes show us the shiny bits yo

Lol Tom, Sorry mate... I've got loads of pictures from yesterday's shift on the mango - didn't finish until 9:30pm lol. Ive uploaded them to my photobucket if you fancy a sneak peek

I'll get them posted up straight after work today buddy

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#1202 17th April 2012, 09:49

Lol you bastard!

My cage actually sits proper tight to the a pillar whereas in the Saxo it didn't. I guess it's how it's fitted that makes the diff. Consider the tint removal mate, jokes aside it will make more 'mature' and classy. I think having tints lends itself to highlighting the chav image saxos already have. Trust me on this one brother! When you get to my age you'll look back an think "why on earth did I have tints?!" The 90's have long gone dude

#1203 17th April 2012, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Lol you bastard!

My cage actually sits proper tight to the a pillar whereas in the Saxo it didn't. I guess it's how it's fitted that makes the diff. Consider the tint removal mate, jokes aside it will make more 'mature' and classy. I think having tints lends itself to highlighting the chav image saxos already have. Trust me on this one brother! When you get to my age you'll look back an think "why on earth did I have tints?!" The 90's have long gone dude

Agreed. but maybe its all part of the deception / sleeper look, then the light goes green and the pub talk ends

So last night I got a fair amount done with the help of my brother....

Firstly gave the interior bungs some back to black that had sat and soaked in over the previous night

Some general close ups of the engine bay....

Smoothed (not with filler!)

Strengthening across the lower chassis leg

Strengthening on the ecu engine mount

One of the general Engine bay

So we started with fitting the satshifter, first up was drilling out the hole through the bulkhead

& then the 2 holes for the gearstick...

Once we were 100% happy that it was perfect we double checked with the plate over it

Then we popped some sealant down onto it and stage 1 tightened it into place

Finally we fitted the unit to the bulkhead and the lower arm on that goes through the exhaust tunnel as well.

By this point it was 9:30pm so we finished up for the night. More progress tomorrow

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#1204 17th April 2012, 18:16

[QUOTE=jpsaxo;5911226]Gives it away slightly doesn't it lol. I was thinking of painting the bonnet and boot, leaving a small strip through the paint, but then I think it would be rude to cover up all the weave?!

I like painted carbon fibre parts. far more understated, and look like it's there for a function. only when you open the bonnet and they see the underside in bare carbon
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#1205 17th April 2012, 20:02

it soo clean!!! looks good! not alot of good looking mango sax's out there!
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#1206 17th April 2012, 23:06

Wooo very nice josh, looks fapping gorgeous!

#1207 18th April 2012, 07:52

[quote=adamskiTNR;5912065]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Gives it away slightly doesn't it lol. I was thinking of painting the bonnet and boot, leaving a small strip through the paint, but then I think it would be rude to cover up all the weave?!

I like painted carbon fibre parts. far more understated, and look like it's there for a function. only when you open the bonnet and they see the underside in bare carbon

Very true, I might do it over the winter....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamallywhan

it soo clean!!! looks good! not alot of good looking mango sax's out there!

Definitely not many / if any left in this condition mate, thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Wooo very nice josh, looks fapping gorgeous!

Aye not bad eh Lewis, will look even better once it has a Sandy Brown engine sitting the engine bay

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#1208 18th April 2012, 09:17

Im giving the ring trip some thought mate. Need to get a few trackdays on the new setup under my belt first. Also im looking for a new daily drive/work horse so not sure what the situation will be with that, might have to get a tow bar fitted etc.
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#1209 18th April 2012, 15:25

What did you use to cut the big hole for the gearstick of the satchshift? Looking to fit mine fairly soon.
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#1210 18th April 2012, 15:28

Have you thought about painting the carbon with a really thin coat of paint like I did with mine so you can still just about see the weave?
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#1211 18th April 2012, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

What did you use to cut the big hole for the gearstick of the satchshift? Looking to fit mine fairly soon.

big hole cutter then a long half moon file buddy...... allow a decent amount of time to get it bang on

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo180

Have you thought about painting the carbon with a really thin coat of paint like I did with mine so you can still just about see the weave?

i likey that idea craig
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#1212 18th April 2012, 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by piggy123

big hole cutter then a long half moon file buddy...... allow a decent amount of time to get it bang on

Do they just go into a drill i take it? What size hole cutter did you use? I think in colins guide it say 70-75mm hole?

I wont be rushing it, dont see the point when working on cars

Dont paint the carbon.... Leave it as it is IMO Itl look the tits with the bonnet on!
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#1213 18th April 2012, 21:25

Loving the latest progress josh

Bet you cant wait for that engine to go in!

#1214 18th April 2012, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsi16v

Im giving the ring trip some thought mate. Need to get a few trackdays on the new setup under my belt first. Also im looking for a new daily drive/work horse so not sure what the situation will be with that, might have to get a tow bar fitted etc.

Ok mate, let me know if you want to come so i can try and get you a space in the hotel with us mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo180

Have you thought about painting the carbon with a really thin coat of paint like I did with mine so you can still just about see the weave?

Got a pic of that 180? interesting idea...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Do they just go into a drill i take it? What size hole cutter did you use? I think in colins guide it say 70-75mm hole?

I wont be rushing it, dont see the point when working on cars

Dont paint the carbon.... Leave it as it is IMO Itl look the tits with the bonnet on!

It took ages with our hole saw, im sure with better tools you could breeze through it in no time. We used the size it says on the guide. I fitted one in Nickheads car when I built that up last year so knew what i was doing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

Loving the latest progress josh

Bet you cant wait for that engine to go in!

Cheers Berg, you going to be at FCS this year mate? be good to catch up.

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As im sure everyone knows the weather is terrible at the moment so I havent been able to get much done. Firstly I decided to tackle finishing off the satshifter set up. Firstly the gearstick so I was lying underneath the car and not getting too wet lol. Then I fitted the upper rod through the bulkhead, All thats left is to connect it up with the gearstick

Nice and close to the steering wheel

As the weather cleared up I started to carefully modify the black plastic scuttle part that runs along underneath the window screen to make it fit with the extended scuttle while trying to keep it looking standard

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#1215 18th April 2012, 23:41

If weather is dry for a few hours tomorrow I'll re-wax the bay if I get the chance as mine needs a wash polish and wax yo

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#1216 19th April 2012, 09:41

Awesome mate. I am looking forwar to seeing this all come together! Can I still have a blast on track with ya at FCS?
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#1217 19th April 2012, 11:46

this car will look amazing once its built back up
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#1218 19th April 2012, 16:11

Ill be at FCS mate yer, ill come and hunt you down (if your ever off the track lol)
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#1219 21st April 2012, 07:24

I'm sure josh won't mind you riding shotgun Lewis
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#1220 21st April 2012, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Awesome mate. I am looking forwar to seeing this all come together! Can I still have a blast on track with ya at FCS?

Yeah of course you can Lewis should give you the perfect motivation toget yours finished?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GazWatson

this car will look amazing once its built back up

Thanks for the kind words Gaz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

Ill be at FCS mate yer, ill come and hunt you down (if your ever off the track lol)

Definitely do come over and have a chat mate, can take you out as a passenger hopefully

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Got a bit more done today inbetween the rain, Mark took out the PAS rack so wasn't sure how it went back together so we worked that out, went to fit it all but Mark still has the 2 bolts that go at the back of the rack for the PAS lines

Anyway then I sorted out all the parts to send for powdercoating along with a load of parts for Willsy

Next I fitted a new set of track rod ends to the steering arms as mine were both fucked

After that I fitted the new Carbon Lorraine rc5+ pads

And fitted the brakes onto the car...

Tomorrow morning I'll hopefully be picking up all the bits and bobs that are at Marks so I can carry on building the car up tomorrow after the f1
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#1221 21st April 2012, 21:26

cant wait to see this finished jp
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#1222 21st April 2012, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazmania_0345

cant wait to see this finished jp

Cheers taz, long time no speak mate!
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#1223 22nd April 2012, 09:10

And you will receive some Peugeot ex stock from a trusted supplier
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#1224 22nd April 2012, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

And you will receive some Peugeot ex stock from a trusted supplier

Trusted stock A1 condition from the local Pug scrappy lol
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#1225 22nd April 2012, 09:46

Wrong pics on previous page?

When's the engine due jp? Is it going to be road legal?
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#1226 22nd April 2012, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshB

Wrong pics on previous page?

When's the engine due jp? Is it going to be road legal?

What do you mean mate? Engine shouldn't be too long now... Couple of weeks or so

Yep will be road legal, mainly a track car but i do love the the odd back-lane blast
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#1227 22nd April 2012, 12:18

Didnt know you was running ast's See them in last pic.

What they like? Both front and rear?
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#1228 22nd April 2012, 13:39

AST's on the front and black capped billies (tarmac) on the rear.

I'm sure josh will tell you what its like...... very impressive when passengering though
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#1229 24th April 2012, 10:49

Really liking where this is going!
wish i could afford one of those shifters!!
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#1230 24th April 2012, 11:04

Ast rock slow service though ha
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#1231 24th April 2012, 16:13

Damn right Andy, think I could have walked to Holland and back quicker!

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#1232 27th April 2012, 22:32

Few more updates...

Put all the steering stuff back on

Cleaned the steering arms all up & painted them gloss black

And finally, today I collected the remaining gearbox parts from Frozen Solid so my whole gearbox is now strengthened thanks to donations from Tom aka Unreal

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#1233 28th April 2012, 12:44

Love your progress so much.
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#1234 28th April 2012, 13:26

Coming together nicely

Youll have to let me know when you are doing some trackdays and ill come along

My handling is all sorted now apart from a lsd so i want to hit the track this year

#1235 29th April 2012, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich112

Love your progress so much.

Thanks for the kind words, are you coming FCS? Feel free to come and have a chat and look around the car

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

Coming together nicely

Youll have to let me know when you are doing some trackdays and ill come along

My handling is all sorted now apart from a lsd so i want to hit the track this year

Yeah I seen the pics - your car should handle epically well now Berg?

At the moment it's not looking like I'll be out on track before Fcs but I'll definitely be doing a track day straight after the ring trip towards the end of July. You should get some fcs track time and boost our frenchies face off lol

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#1236 29th April 2012, 16:32

Looking good josh get that gbox built up quick yo!!!! cant wait to see it again and maybe do some spannering on it!
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#1237 29th April 2012, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

Looking good josh get that gbox built up quick yo!!!! cant wait to see it again and maybe do some spannering on it!

Haha that will remind me of Mallory when I first met you, digging all the stones out of the car when I had my little excursion into the gravel lol

Dads already built half of it up over the weekend, need to weld the dif on next, not taking any chance with the circlip (we found out what can happen with that at the ring last year lol). Speaking of the ring dads on a business trip to Germany this week and I'm trying to persuade him to take his hire car up to the ring one evening lols

#1238 29th April 2012, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Thanks for the kind words, are you coming FCS? Feel free to come and have a chat and look around the car

Yep I will be mate, maybe we can park all mangos together for once? Haha

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#1239 29th April 2012, 20:30

yeah when we let down the tires to get out the stones and then using the go go gadget chrome tire pressure gauge to get them pumped back up yo!

#1240 29th April 2012, 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Hopefully mate yer

If i did fcs i would probably get my face boosted off by all these french turbos anyway lol

I shall be attending though!

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#1241 30th April 2012, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

yeah when we let down the tires to get out the stones and then using the go go gadget chrome tire pressure gauge to get them pumped back up yo!

Haha retro y0!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

Hopefully mate yer

If i did fcs i would probably get my face boosted off by all these french turbos anyway lol

I shall be attending though!

Love how Danny "Liked" this comment hehe!

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Got some more done tonight...

It's not all that interesting but essential in my quest to take my time and do everything properly

First thing was to get the tap & die out

Finished the Satshifter off

Next was time to go and collect my powdercoated bits...

Lower strut brace

We had a slight problem with the satshift / wishbone bracing making the lower bar of the satshift foul. We solved that by cutting the lower bracing like so...

I'm much happier with the result, the satshift now sits flush up against the bulkhead

Hopefully more pics of shiny powdercoated bits tomorrow if the weathers kind to us

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#1242 1st May 2012, 06:54

looks spot on mate! and built on the drive - its how we do it in dudley yo!
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#1243 1st May 2012, 07:25

The satchshift looks like a quality bit of kit! Never seen the engine bay side of one...should help the acceleration though not having to find the gears with sloppy gear rods!

You going to get some mango or a seal of some sort in the hole through the bulkhead before the rust gets to it and spoils marks epic work?

Keep up the top work, one of my favourite cars on sax-p!

James

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#1244 1st May 2012, 07:25

Double post
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#1245 1st May 2012, 08:15

i think what you need to do josh... just cos your a flash git. brush a bit off paint on where you chipped it off to stop rust then ask colin to send you a sqauew same as on the inside without the tube welded on then sandwich it on bulk head side. if you follow me?

#1246 1st May 2012, 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

looks spot on mate! and built on the drive - its how we do it in dudley yo!

Haha, I'm building it on the drive, storing it in a garage. Sounds wrong doesn't it lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim-Bob

The satchshift looks like a quality bit of kit! Never seen the engine bay side of one...should help the acceleration though not having to find the gears with sloppy gear rods!

You going to get some mango or a seal of some sort in the hole through the bulkhead before the rust gets to it and spoils marks epic work?

Keep up the top work, one of my favourite cars on sax-p!

James

Hi James,

I thought someone eagle eyed might spot that, after I took the picture I realised that as well, firstly tried some mango 2 pack paint that we used to spray the engine bay - that had dried up. Then tried the mango spray can - that was empty! So I settled on some yellow Hammerite for now & I'll order another mango spray can today

once it arrives I'll go over the top of the yellow with a bit of mango

The shifter should definitely help keep it going through the gears nice and quick, the main thing for me is the gear stick is up close to the steering wheel, so more time with both hands on the steering wheel

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#1247 1st May 2012, 08:49

Looks good, coming together nicely.

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#1248 1st May 2012, 09:13

coming on well JP. Whats the latest on the engine??
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#1249 1st May 2012, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsi16v

coming on well JP. Whats the latest on the engine??

Cheers Matt. Sandys very busy at the moment, I know it's still on going and Sandys just got his head down and cracking on with it, hopefully I will have it in a couple of weeks as its only 6 weeks until FCS now
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#1250 2nd May 2012, 21:28

Got some more done over the past couple of days.

Last night Shay (mrs) gave me a hand with a few bits...

Before fitting the carpet Shay & I removed the electric window switches from the loom so i can re-route it to there new location

Secondly was to cut the carpet so it fits around the satshifter gearstick;-

and the inside of the bulkhead;-

Obviously that meant the carpet was back in and fitted

Next up was to tackle the brake servo which was in a shocking state so i decided to give it the full works... So i set about sanding it all down by hand which took over 3 hours and i finished at 11:30 last night!! Left it looking like this...

2 coats of gloss black paint

Then came to fitting it... Along with the bracket which I had powdercoated

and the brake bar powdercoated as well

Sam aka the Mule helped me fit it all and cleaned all the nuts and bolts we fitted, exhibit A;-

Fitting the brake servo etc

Sam also helped me fit the drivers side wing after we gave the inner wing a layer of gloss black over the primer that Mark had put on it

and sealed the wing back on

Finally the engine bay as it currently stands...

Coming on quite quickly now
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#1251 2nd May 2012, 21:55

Looking saaaweet. just for a heads up, those nuts that you've cleaned up by sanding them will rust to buggery within months
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#1252 2nd May 2012, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

Looking saaaweet. just for a heads up, those nuts that you've cleaned up by sanding them will rust to buggery within months

Yeah I realise that thanks mate the car will be dry stored so hopefully they won't rust too quickly lol, at least if they are 'right' when I put them in that keeps me happy lol
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#1253 2nd May 2012, 22:31

A4 marine grade stainless is where it's at mate to replace those nuts and bolts :-)

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#1254 2nd May 2012, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

A4 marine grade stainless is where it's at mate to replace those nuts and bolts :-)

Where do you get them from mate?
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#1255 3rd May 2012, 08:02

love it josh this build look awesome its on a whole new level from the last engine that was in there. well done mate keep at it and you will be ready for fcs yo woo woo
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#1256 3rd May 2012, 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Where do you get them from mate?

Any fixing supplier should do them. I spent about £80 replacing all mine. Its the non metric threads that you will struggle with, i just bought new genuine ones as the coating on them will last a few years

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#1257 3rd May 2012, 10:40

Thanks Matt

Am I right in thinking I need A4 stainless bolts?
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#1258 3rd May 2012, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Thanks Matt

Am I right in thinking I need A4 stainless bolts?

Not really. Both A2 and A4 are corrosion resistant and come in the same strengths. You will pay more for A4 when its not really needed.
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#1259 6th May 2012, 19:51

Thanks Matt

Got a bit more done today...

Firstly me & dad started fitting the brake lines through the whole car, to do that I had to put the rear end up on axel stands so we could get underneath which made my wheel pile even higher lol

After that we started fitting the lines to the back end first

Then we ran out of clips that were either broken or damaged, I'll get some ordered from Citroen on Tuesday. So we popped them up into place on the master cylinder

The eagle eyed of you will notice that there are only 3 there, that's because 1 was broken :O

Seeing as our main job was over until I can get another brake line & some new clips from Citroen I carried on with other bits and bobs

Firstly bonded the black plastic part onto the bottom of the window screen to help it stay in place

And lastly I modified the steering column bracing to stop it fouling the satshift while retaining ridigity of the steering column

And lastly 1 of my hispec nipple covers had gone missing so Tom aka unreal donated his nipples to me

Lol
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#1260 6th May 2012, 22:06

things are looking really good here jp
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#1261 7th May 2012, 08:06

Hahahahaha got to love a bit of animation in letters

Looks fantastic josh really coming on now good luck with the next big stages
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#1262 10th May 2012, 11:13

Just had a read through this. I used to be on SSC years ago as Andy_16v and remember the car from then.

You reconned the a rear beam for my VTS that's still on the car... Hasnt been on the road since 2010

#1263 11th May 2012, 09:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ska_wars

Just had a read through this. I used to be on SSC years ago as Andy_16v and remember the car from then.

You reconned the a rear beam for my VTS that's still on the car... Hasnt been on the road since 2010

Lol that's awesome, cant beat old school ssc days! SSC seems a long time ago now! What's the current state of your Saxo then?

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#1264 11th May 2012, 09:37

What bodies are you going to be using matey?

I'm assuming something from sandy? 90mm trumpets? Are you having to cut the scuttle? Or bulkhead?
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#1265 11th May 2012, 09:44

this has to be one of the best progress threads going, and the amount of time and care going into this is unreal! cant wait to see this all done and running! 10 out of 10 from me lad! keep posting updates
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#1266 11th May 2012, 09:59

i like this thread. a very good build!! however may i ask why the black bonnet???

edit-i mean boot

#1267 11th May 2012, 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathias

What bodies are you going to be using matey?

I'm assuming something from sandy? 90mm trumpets? Are you having to cut the scuttle? Or bulkhead?

Have a look at the pictures mate, I asked Mark to extend the scuttle while retaining the standard ish look

yeah Sandy bodies, I can't reveal the extract length otherwise I'd be giving away hours/weeks/months/years of R&D that Sandy has done to optimise his engines

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayline

this has to be one of the best progress threads going, and the amount of time and care going into this is unreal! cant wait to see this all done and running! 10 out of 10 from me lad! keep posting updates

Thanks for the kind words Jay, I'll try and keep this up to date, I'm off to Monaco for the f1 for a week soon then when I get back I'll be very busy fitting the engine

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxo0pko0xx

i like this thread. a very good build!! however may i ask why the black bonnet???

edit-i mean boot

Thanks

what do you mean Black boot?

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#1268 11th May 2012, 10:46

[QUOTE=jpsaxo;5944883]

Thanks for the kind words Jay, I'll try and keep this up to date, I'm off to Monaco for the f1 for a week soon then when I get back I'll be very busy fitting the engine

no problem matey, and ohhh how very jealous i am of you right now!!!! LOL hope you have a good time at the f1

#1269 11th May 2012, 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Have a look at the pictures mate, I asked Mark to extend the scuttle while retaining the standard ish look

yeah Sandy bodies, I can't reveal the extract length otherwise I'd be giving away hours/weeks/months/years of R&D that Sandy has done to optimise his engines

Thanks for the kind words Jay, I'll try and keep this up to date, I'm off to Monaco for the f1 for a week soon then when I get back I'll be very busy fitting the engine

Thanks

what do you mean Black boot?

I think he means your carbon boot josh

I think this car is perfect mate, can't wait to see it at the ring mate

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#1270 11th May 2012, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxo0pko0xx

i like this thread. a very good build!! however may i ask why the black bonnet???

edit-i mean boot

You mean his carbon Boot? That matches his carbon roof? And soon to be bonnet?

Love the progress josh!

You going to be running a box with the new lump? or leaving them free with a filter? 90mm?

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#1271 11th May 2012, 18:53

Looking good Josh(JP) can't wait to see this at FCS in the pits/on track

#1272 12th May 2012, 08:25

[quote=jayline;5944891]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Thanks for the kind words Jay, I'll try and keep this up to date, I'm off to Monaco for the f1 for a week soon then when I get back I'll be very busy fitting the engine

no problem matey, and ohhh how very jealous i am of you right now!!!! LOL hope you have a good time at the f1

Haha, I can't wait to be chilling in monaco with a few beers watching the f1 cars scream past in the beaut sunshine

Quote:

Originally Posted by lwigmore

I think he means your carbon boot josh

I think this car is perfect mate, can't wait to see it at the ring mate

Cheers Lee

ah - yeah he must mean the carbon boot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richy_Rich

You mean his carbon Boot? That matches his carbon roof? And soon to be bonnet?

Love the progress josh!

You going to be running a box with the new lump? or leaving them free with a filter? 90mm?

Sandy will be using a Sausage type filter on the end of the bodies. We will try various trumpet lengths until we hit the sweet spot but Sandy has a good idea of the ideal length from his last engine build, which made a 'huge' gain when he hit the sweet spot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne

Looking good Josh(JP)

can't wait to see this at FCS in the pits/on track

Same for you Wayne, it will be interesting to see how much quicker yours is boosted than mine. What power are you expecting from yours?

#1273 12th May 2012, 10:03

[quote=jpsaxo;5946192]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayline

Haha, I can't wait to be chilling in monaco with a few beers watching the f1 cars scream past in the beaut sunshine

Cheers Lee

ah - yeah he must mean the carbon boot

Same for you Wayne, it will be interesting to see how much quicker yours is boosted than mine. What power are you expecting from yours?

280@wheels, but turned down to 200-210 @wheels on first setting on boost controller to start with just to get used to that sort of power first. Will be interesting i'm sure, i don't know the track so will take it steady for a few laps

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#1274 12th May 2012, 10:22

What's that at the fly roughly?
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#1275 12th May 2012, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

What's that at the fly roughly?

280@wheels is about 310-320 at fly, 200-210@wheels is about 230/240 at fly give or take depending on transmission losses.

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#1276 12th May 2012, 11:21

Ah nice! That's the same filter I ran on mine! Really looking forward to seeing/hearing this!
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#1277 12th May 2012, 11:28

awesome stuff man who tanned (a bit)
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#1278 12th May 2012, 12:05

just got back into the saxo scene and i remeber this from pfc top motor mate and inspirational

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#1279 13th May 2012, 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne

280@wheels is about 310-320 at fly, 200-210@wheels is about 230/240 at fly give or take depending on transmission losses.

That's cool, will be interesting to see your lower boost setting vs my engine and see what the difference is like on track

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richy_Rich

Ah nice! That's the same filter I ran on mine! Really looking forward to seeing/hearing this!

Yeah I can't wait now either Rich, I've got another weeks work to do roughly then I'm in Monaco for the F1 for a week and when I come back it's engine fitting time, bring it on

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

awesome stuff man who tanned (a bit)

Haha cheers Gav! You at fcs mate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsdad

just got back into the saxo scene and i remeber this from pfc top motor mate and inspirational

Hey mate, yeah that seems a long time ago now, the cars changed a fair bit since then, it had another PFC mag feature last summer as well
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#1280 15th May 2012, 20:37

Nothing THAT interesting... the last week or so I've been doing LOTS of bits and bobs to tidy the car up and while I'm waiting for the engine

I ordered loads of clips, rubber bungs, fixings etc as these were all brittle & broken when we took them out to sand blast the underside of the chassis

A few of the clips, bungs etc arrived... still waiting on loads more!

New air-fans filter foam

New front inner wheel arches

Also finished the fuel system off and popped 5 litres of fuel in the tank as it was empty

In the mean time dads been carrying on with the gearbox build. We've changed a few things this time to try and build in even more reliability to the gearbox, if it break again its BE time for me lol

My FCS track time & tickets also arrived... whether the engine will be ready in time I really don't know, fingers crossed

Main jobs left are to finish the brake lines when the replacement drivers side front line arrives from Citroen. I also need to move the fuse box in behind the dash and hopefully get the carbon bonnet back from Mark this weekend. Apart from that the cars ready for the engine now
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#1281 15th May 2012, 20:48

Jp you are amazing

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#1282 15th May 2012, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich112

Jp you are amazing

Lol, it's just like a big jigsaw really, you just need the knowledge to put it all back together lol
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#1283 15th May 2012, 23:16

if you dont mind me asking what clip do i need to fit the bit of the arch liner thats closest to the door, has to go through the arch into a white bit on the car by the looks of it

PS epic build

#1284 16th May 2012, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by barwell1992

if you dont mind me asking what clip do i need to fit the bit of the arch liner thats closest to the door, has to go through the arch into a white bit on the car by the looks of it

PS epic build

You mean the rear of the front inner arch linings mate?

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#1285 16th May 2012, 14:21

Good work bro!

So when are yuo expecting the engine to be complete?
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#1286 18th May 2012, 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Good work bro!

So when are yuo expecting the engine to be complete?

Hopefully soon Lewis, as Sandy says though - no point in rushing it!

Another sneak peek

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#1287 18th May 2012, 13:11

well too clean for me

looks good, just need an engine
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#1288 20th May 2012, 17:33

Ugh!!
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#1289 20th May 2012, 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

You mean the rear of the front inner arch linings mate?

Yup that's the one cheers
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#1290 20th May 2012, 19:22

Normally hate mk1's but damn that is nice
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#1291 20th May 2012, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by barwell1992

Yup that's the one cheers

Yeah they use a clear plastic part from Citroen, you can still order them I got a couple a few weeks ago
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#1292 20th May 2012, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronSalter

Normally hate mk1's but damn that is nice

Thanks bud Any reason you don't normally like them? We all know mark 2's are girls cars

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#1293 21st May 2012, 09:43

^
This
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#1294 21st May 2012, 22:28

nothing girly about a mark 2 if its done right
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#1295 21st May 2012, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

nothing girly about a mark 2 if its done right

+1

a bit of pink and those awesome eyelash things
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#1296 22nd May 2012, 00:54

excellent work mate. them black bits look well against the yellow bay. will be using this thread as inspiration.

keep the pics coming
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#1297 22nd May 2012, 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

+1

a bit of pink and those awesome eyelash things

matt black everything
cant exactly say mines girly lol
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#1298 22nd May 2012, 10:41

Cheers lads...

I got the drivers side of the loom extended and finished off yesterday

Also moved the loom for the master cylinder & the wiper motor through the fuel line bung so it's tidier

Tonight I'll finish the passengers side of the loom off, then im off to Monaco for a week to watch the F1
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#1299 24th May 2012, 18:54

as always jp looking mint

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#1300 30th May 2012, 16:18

Jp do a search on youtube for best of nurburgring nordschleife 2011 1/1 and i think your car is on there getting stuck behind avrecovery truck
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#1301 30th May 2012, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillbillyxsi

as always jp looking mint

Cheers dude

Joeboy - Already seen it cheere Joe, yes it's my car, that's my 8:55 lap as well so could have gone even quicker if I didn't get held up, you can see them recording from my on board video Below

8:55 nurburgring lap is here;
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#1302 30th May 2012, 18:25

Woulda been a good 830/40 without them holdups i reckon so damn good for a tin can lol
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#1303 30th May 2012, 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Woulda been a good 830/40 without them holdups i reckon so damn good for a tin can lol

Haha yeah not bad for a tin can / CF lol
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#1304 30th May 2012, 20:51

What sort of times you hoping for with the new engine? Bet it'll make fair difference with a very well setup engine/exhaust that all works together in comparison to the old setup.

#1305 31st May 2012, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

What sort of times you hoping for with the new engine? Bet it'll make fair difference with a very well setup engine/exhaust that all works together in comparison to the old setup.

Definitely, with the old engine I couldnt accelerate above 110mph up the long hill at the back of the Nurburgring, with the new engine it should accelerate all the way to the limit of the size of my balls, so just on that section alone your talking 10-15 second saving. Then you've got much better acceleration out of each corner.... I'd say I should be able to achieve 8:30 laps fairly easily with the new engine, not necessarily this year but maybe next year when I'm used to the engine

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#1306 1st June 2012, 19:43

My car wont be making FCS this year, id rather do it properly than rush it

This means my 180min track session is now for sale, PM me if your interested....
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#1307 1st June 2012, 20:35

Dont think i even reached 100 up the hills!

Shame about fcs but its just a show off occasion im sure youll enjou driving it more
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#1308 1st June 2012, 20:57

Shame it won't be at fcs mate, but makes sense not rushing after the amount of time money and effort gone into it!
Cars amazing!!
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#1309 2nd June 2012, 00:30

Ah what a shame mate
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#1310 2nd June 2012, 01:28

ill have ya track slot dude pm me ya pay pal
i did a 8.25 at the ring place is the bollox

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#1311 2nd June 2012, 07:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by superchargedsaxokev

ill have ya track slot dude pm me ya pay pal
i did a 8.25 at the ring place is the bollox

My old engine only had half your power lol. I agree, the ring is awesome! This year will be my 7th trip lol
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#1312 3rd June 2012, 10:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich112

Ah what a shame mate

Onwards and upwards matey, its not the end of the world, im looking forward to doing a shakedown track day at the end of this month before our ring trip in the middle of July and another track day at the end of July

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

Shame it won't be at fcs mate, but makes sense not rushing after the amount of time money and effort gone into it!
Cars amazing!!

Exactly mate, it is a big shame but oh well!

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Dont think i even reached 100 up the hills!

Shame about fcs but its just a show off occasion im sure youll enjou driving it more

Think you summed it up nicely there mate. Lol @ not reaching 100 - its damn steep up there!

Oh and i couldnt resist sticking this pic up
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#1313 3rd June 2012, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

My car wont be making FCS this year, id rather do it properly than rush it

Theres always next year
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#1314 3rd June 2012, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

and another track day at the end of July

let me know where your thinking for this one mate ill see what i can do about getting the vtr along
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#1315 3rd June 2012, 19:22

nice pic shame about the english bellend in the way though

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#1316 3rd June 2012, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1311

nice pic shame about the english bellend in the way though

You bastard Mark

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

let me know where your thinking for this one mate ill see what i can do about getting the vtr along

Will do Alex, thinking local so donny or mallory possibly if you'd be up for it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Theres always next year

Exactly mate I'll have to make it even better for next year lol
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#1317 4th June 2012, 16:35

Come to Blyton park, sun 5th aug, full day £99. Me and andysaxo should be booking on! Don't think its local to you tho
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#1318 4th June 2012, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

Come to Blyton park, sun 5th aug, full day £99. Me and andysaxo should be booking on! Don't think its local to you tho

errr... where the F is my invite

blyton and cadwell are my locals
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#1319 4th June 2012, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexy_gt

errr... where the F is my invite

blyton and cadwell are my locals

Sorry bud, I don't know everyone well enough to know who's local to where lol
5th aug, through apex trackdays, £99 full day, and Andy says its free to add a an extra driver! Andy booking this week hopefully, and I gotta sort alternator, oil leaks and get new suspension on and then will be booking! You going to get on it?
(sorry to spam your thread jp)
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#1320 4th June 2012, 18:59

pm sent rather than spam any more lol
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#1321 12th June 2012, 18:06

Josh looking good just a couple of questions,
how come your crownwheel is welded onto diff?, not the correct way to do it as i found out the other year at Llandow!! who fitted that to diff in that way?

did you not consider ditching servo and going for pedal box? or at least going for braided hoses and an in car bias valve?

how come carpet is still in there? thought this was a track car?? lol

#1322 12th June 2012, 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattwesty

Josh looking good just a couple of questions,
how come your crownwheel is welded onto diff?, not the correct way to do it as i found out the other year at Llandow!! who fitted that to diff in that way?

did you not consider ditching servo and going for pedal box? or at least going for braided hoses and an in car bias valve?

how come carpet is still in there? thought this was a track car?? lol

It was welded by GMC, we cut it off and did it the normal way changing the FD to a 1.4xsi in the process - however that shat itself at the ring last year & punched a hole through the gearbox casing in the process, so weve gone back to GMC's style and welded it on this year as we had no problems with it like that before

I like how tidy the standard brake & fuel lines are, the standard fuel lines are enough to supply 220+ bhp so I dont see the need to change them, I especially dont like the brake lines through the car - although I would like to incorporate a bias valve into the standard set up some time in the future

Carpet - ill probably always keep in, hated driving my brothers to Llandow SO much about 5 years ago i think its scared me lol

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#1323 29th June 2012, 18:54

Any more updates on this Josh?

Going to be ready in time for your ring trip?
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#1324 29th June 2012, 20:38

Updates soon Berg, probably next week

You still on the same number btw mate?

Sneak peak in the mean time...

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#1325 30th June 2012, 06:41

looks fantastic josh really great progress

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#1326 30th June 2012, 08:24

This is absolutely amazing! The best car on here by far (IMO) I love the fact that everything has been done to such a high standard and your going to hammer it round a track! Hate seeing projects like this then see them say around and polished. Can't wait too see the engine in now!

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#1327 3rd July 2012, 22:08

Wheres the engine update then
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#1328 3rd July 2012, 22:45

Just need to paint it blue or a nice colour lol and convert it to Mk2

Apart from that spot on
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#1329 3rd July 2012, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

Wheres the engine update then

Joe - nooooo way, we all know mark 2's are for girls

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#1330 4th July 2012, 07:18

I saw you at FCS mate, but couldn't remember if it was you or not. Sorry i didn't come say hi. Ive also seen the facebook pic of what's coming. Looks awesome man!
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#1331 4th July 2012, 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Joe - nooooo way, we all know mark 2's are for girls

Noooo mk1s look like fiat uno lol
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#1332 4th July 2012, 08:59

Mk1 don't! Mk1 Saxo are the best Saxo.
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#1333 4th July 2012, 12:20

I'd have a mk1 if there was a decent one out there!

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#1334 4th July 2012, 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry289

I'd have a mk1 if there was a decent one out there!

damn right!
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#1335 4th July 2012, 14:18

remember josh get the b8s and lower brace on or it will never do a sub 8min ring lap and be considered a good car

新しいエンジンは素晴らしいです。

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#1336 4th July 2012, 15:01

Yawn....

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#1337 4th July 2012, 15:22

haha never gets old

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#1338 4th July 2012, 15:42

Where you been hiding beardy? You guys doing ring this year?
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#1339 5th July 2012, 08:28

I'll do an extensive write up once it's mapped and I know all is ok! But for now a couple sample pics from the build...

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#1340 5th July 2012, 10:18

seen this last night...

it's special!
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#1341 5th July 2012, 10:49

That is very nice
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#1342 5th July 2012, 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Where you been hiding beardy? You guys doing ring this year?

moved and have no wifi at home yet so thats why ive been.quiet
yes i am next week
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#1343 5th July 2012, 12:46

Excellent read and some good progress!
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#1344 7th July 2012, 08:18

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#1345 7th July 2012, 08:37

Tease more!!!!
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#1346 7th July 2012, 09:43

Top left of the picture is that fastner. we make them at our company. how did you get hold of them? Quater turn yeh?
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#1347 7th July 2012, 10:16

Gonna be an awesome feeling eharing that start for the first time!
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#1348 7th July 2012, 17:18

Need more pics!
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#1349 30th July 2012, 06:49

you going trax mate..?>
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#1350 30th July 2012, 18:15

^
My question also
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#1351 30th July 2012, 18:16

sick car mate!!
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#1352 30th July 2012, 18:17

will we be so privliged as to see this car at trax
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#1353 30th July 2012, 21:03

More updates on this are needed!
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#1354 30th July 2012, 22:43

I will be at Trax lads if all goes to plan Currently doing finishing touches to the car before it goes down to London for custom exhaust & manifold making, then down to Sandy to check everything over and tweaking the map.

I'll update this thread after Trax, unless your at the ring the weekend before Trax in which case you can look at it then
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#1355 31st July 2012, 01:48

That is amazing fair play
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#1356 3rd August 2012, 14:00

JP - I am disgusted in you!

What the hell is that on the windscreen! A Sun Strip.....Dude come on we dont live in the 90s any more 

Next youll be telling us you have tights over your rear lights hahahaha!
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#1357 3rd August 2012, 14:03

Don't have any sun visors so need it Leeroy lol
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#1358 3rd August 2012, 14:40

Sunglasses were invented for uber cool people such as myself and you :-)

Any sign of it being ready for Trax?
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#1359 3rd August 2012, 16:40

Definitely should be ready for Trax you going?

I tried it without a sunstrip and it was horrible, my seats are low so look directly into the sun lol
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#1360 3rd August 2012, 16:56

Yeah am going pal, will come over and stay hi, tried at FCS a few years back but some goons with huge camera's bet me to it lol
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#1361 3rd August 2012, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeroybrown

Yeah am going pal, will come over and stay hi, tried at FCS a few years back but some goons with huge camera's bet me to it lol

Lmao, think your talking about Ryan @ Trax 2008 lol

Will be good to meet you pal, see what you think to the mango in its latest spec
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#1362 4th August 2012, 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

More updates on this are needed!

Oh go on then Some more teasers...

That's all for now, see you at Trax, or @ the ring on the bank holiday weekend
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#1363 4th August 2012, 11:52

So is the car all good to go now then?
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#1364 4th August 2012, 17:33

You used a j4 head... Thought i read it was a jp4?
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#1365 4th August 2012, 17:51

Cant wait to see this at trax! Makes me want to strip and rebuild my mango
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#1366 5th August 2012, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

So is the car all good to go now then?

Not far off now joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

You used a j4 head... Thought i read it was a jp4?

Jp4 & block, what made you think it was a j4 head mate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liamjrhodes

Cant wait to see this at trax! Makes me want to strip and rebuild my mango

Haha, it's taken bloody ages to complete but I'm sure it will be worth it- I've not driven it for over a year now lol!
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#1367 5th August 2012, 21:04

Oh... The jp4 head doesnt normally have the oil gallery plugs in the end of the head... Or did sandy drill and tap them?
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#1368 5th August 2012, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

Oh... The jp4 head doesnt normally have the oil gallery plugs in the end of the head... Or did sandy drill and tap them?

I'm not 100% sure mate, I know he's done ALOT of modifications to the head that your normal engine builder wouldnt bother with, the small changes make minimal difference, but when you add up all the small differences they = a big difference

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#1369 6th August 2012, 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I'm not 100% sure mate, I know he's done ALOT of modifications to the head that your normal engine builder wouldnt bother with, the small changes make minimal difference, but when you add up all the small differences they = a big difference

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#1370 6th August 2012, 10:55

your a tease....... anal bastard!! lols we love you jp!

after having a nosey this weekend I'm very very impressed

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#1371 7th August 2012, 11:48

Haha @ Olly!

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#1372 7th August 2012, 11:52

Looking good matey!
Might pop across to trax purely to see this
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#1373 7th August 2012, 14:24

Front bumper off can only mean one thing

Hope all goes well

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#1374 7th August 2012, 17:13

Final stages now

Will pop over if your at trax, got 2 track sessions booked myself so might see you out there
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#1375 7th August 2012, 19:10

Cornwall bound??
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#1376 7th August 2012, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

Cornwall bound??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathias

Front bumper off can only mean one thing

Hope all goes well

Loooooool Not yet, it's done it's first leg of the trip down to Cornwall, leg 2 next week sometime with any luck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaniemoo

Looking good matey!
Might pop across to trax purely to see this

You should mate, definitely come over and introduce yourself mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berg

Final stages now

Will pop over if your at trax, got 2 track sessions booked myself so might see you out there

Yup getting towards the final stages now... You should come & have a chat mate, will be good to catch up

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#1377 7th August 2012, 20:46

Awesome
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#1378 9th August 2012, 16:16

Just seen the first picture of my custom manifold, think I nearly just jizzed

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#1379 9th August 2012, 16:18

did you jizz a pork pie out?

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#1380 9th August 2012, 16:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

did you jizz a pork pie out?

Lol... Something like that Gav. You gonna come to see the mighty lcfc play anytime soon?
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#1381 9th August 2012, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

the mighty lcfc

Yup.. Lincoln City are awesome aint they
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#1382 9th August 2012, 22:11

lincoln can eat my left testie hairs!

mighty foxes i'll let you know but won't be to long

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#1383 12th August 2012, 09:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

This JP4 head had screw in gallery plugs already, most of them have and I tend to use them in preference to the ball bearing ones, for the ease of cleaning. There are several details in the engine solely aimed at ease of maintenance and cleanliness as well as cost effective and easy to source consumables etc. I like dialling in stuff like that to make life easier at a later date, comes with a warm, smug, satisfaction!

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#1384 12th August 2012, 10:59

Ahh.. Didnt know that! My jp4 has the ball bearing head, all ive seen have aswell. I thought it was just j4 that had plugs

My bad
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#1385 15th August 2012, 14:21

Good luck with all Josh, hope it works out for you brother!

I agree with Leeroy, that sunstrip and tinited window / light scenario is outrageous!
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#1386 15th August 2012, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Good luck with all Josh, hope it works out for you brother!

I agree with Leeroy, that sunstrip and tinited window / light scenario is outrageous!

Should be shot Josh!
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#1387 16th August 2012, 22:17

The LEGEND (aka Sandy Brown) at work...

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#1388 16th August 2012, 22:52

bwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrpppppppp
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#1389 17th August 2012, 13:10

Seems the video isn't working, here's the direct link to the video

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...434286CB29.mp4

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#1390 17th August 2012, 13:13

Holy shit thats cool
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#1391 17th August 2012, 13:14

What figure you reach?
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#1392 17th August 2012, 19:52

Amazing
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#1393 17th August 2012, 19:59

I don't quote rollers figures generally and from about 7200/7300rpm the fuel delivery wouldn't increase, so the AFR was getting worryingly lean and nothing I could do to make it right. Fuel pump and/or lines likely to blame. The race cars I have run this engine spec in before have always had non-standard pumps and tanks. I think I'll leave figures for now, I only really trust engine dyno results these days. It's a nice engine and I'm proud of it!

What really pleased me though, I asked Josh to do a brim to brim economy test on the way home and it gave 37.9mpg!

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#1394 18th August 2012, 08:15

Such a fantastic build well done josh and such a great engine well done sandy brown yet again excelling in engine building nice one

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#1395 18th August 2012, 10:56

Holy cow that revs fast what a lovely car it is now! I wanna hear it in real life. If you're ever out on a track day let me know
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#1396 18th August 2012, 15:49

I have to say it..Sandy Brown... You are awesome!

How responsive is that????!!!!

To me thats what a permance engine should be... Right there ready when you need it!

And 37.9mpg!! Who says tuned engnes are expensive to run!!!

Well done that man

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#1397 18th August 2012, 15:55

P.s

Is there more to come from it once the fueling is sorted?
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#1398 18th August 2012, 22:05

Just expensive to rebuild lol

#1399 18th August 2012, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

P.s

Is there more to come from it once the fueling is sorted?

Yep, at least another 1,000rpm before the cams reach theoretical peak power

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottie_436

I have to say it..Sandy Brown... You are awesome!

How responsive is that????!!!!

To me thats what a permance engine should be... Right there ready when you need it!

And 37.9mpg!! Who says tuned engnes are expensive to run!!!

Well done that man

It's insane mate... It just wants to GGGOOOOOOOO

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Originally Posted by harry289

Holy cow that revs fast

what a lovely car it is now! I wanna hear it in real life. If you're ever out on a track day let me know

Trax is your friend, hopefully have the new fuel pump and even more POOOWWEEERRR by then - as if I need it - the thing tries to kill me torque steering all over the road with the current power as it is lol

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#1400 18th August 2012, 23:44

Olly likes his pax ride......

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#1401 18th August 2012, 23:49

Looks immense in the video!

#1402 19th August 2012, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Yep, at least another 1,000rpm before the cams reach theoretical peak power

It's insane mate... It just wants to GGGOOOOOOOO

Nice!

My 172 used to be a torque monster.. Bet this is in a different league!!

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#1403 25th August 2012, 11:54

Cheers lads

The cars been detailed ready for TRAX by none other than The legend that is Tom aka unreal

Lots of other bits & bobs have been done, I'll reveal all @ TRAX next Sunday

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#1404 25th August 2012, 12:23

Looks good, prefer the standard rear light!
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#1405 25th August 2012, 12:34

To anyone that doesnt know this looks like a chavs shitbox french car lol

God you are going to have some fun with this!
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#1406 25th August 2012, 12:38

Looking nice do you know what products he used detailing mate? What time you arriving at trax so we get parked next to each other? Lol
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#1407 25th August 2012, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by garner90

Looks good, prefer the standard rear light!

They are standard mark 2 lights mate, I don't understand?

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

To anyone that doesnt know this looks like a chavs shitbox french car lol

God you are going to have some fun with this!

Lol, yeah I couldn't help it mate, Lexus lights got the best of me lmao

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Originally Posted by rich112

Looking nice do you know what products he used detailing mate? What time you arriving at trax so we get parked next to each other? Lol

I'm convoying down the m1 mate, we will be there early
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#1408 25th August 2012, 12:55

[QUOTE=jpsaxo;6072064]They are standard mark 2 lights mate, I don't understand?

QUOTE]

Thats what I meant mate, last time I saw it had the tinted lights, I meant I prefer the standard ones on it rather than the tinted ones
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#1409 25th August 2012, 16:31

looks epic josh the engine bay is by far the best bit of the car such a great car and it looks stunning"
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#1410 25th August 2012, 17:28

That looks brilliant!
Love this car!
I need to see it in person!?
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#1411 25th August 2012, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by garner90

Thats what I meant mate, last time I saw it had the tinted lights, I meant I prefer the standard ones on it rather than the tinted ones

Ah got you, yes totally agreed

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Originally Posted by unreal106

looks epic josh the engine bay is by far the best bit of the car such a great car and it looks stunning"

Thanks Tom, alot of work gone into making it as tidy as possible in the engine bay the guy who detailed it isn't bad either

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Originally Posted by Beaniemoo

That looks brilliant!
Love this car!
I need to see it in person!?

Tomorrow on the Rolling road?
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#1412 25th August 2012, 20:36

Looks brilliant josh

Just a shame your quite far away from me otherwise i'd pop down tomorrow and see it in action
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#1413 25th August 2012, 21:17

Love it! Needs a good track day now

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#1414 26th August 2012, 20:52

NOMNOMNOMNOM
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#1415 27th August 2012, 11:47

Where did you get the tail gate? i want one
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#1416 27th August 2012, 20:46

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Originally Posted by eddy_vts

Where did you get the tail gate? i want one

Streamline carbon mate, it's not cheap - great quality

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Yesterday I did a rolling road day @ Dynodaze for PFC. Very pleased with the results - first NA Saxo / 106 over 200bhp on there rollers, gave us a good idea of where we are at the moment

Tomorrow morning I'm off back down to Sandys to try and map the top end now I have the Walboro intank fuel pump installed. Fingers crossed

I'll update this thread properly after unveiling it @ TRAX
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#1417 27th August 2012, 21:40

Be interesting to see how yout car goes vs the charged cars of similar power
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#1418 27th August 2012, 22:33

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Be interesting to see how yout car goes vs the charged cars of similar power

N/a over same powered boost anytime :-) (assuming car is the same :-) ) come on jp!! Light it up!!

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#1419 28th August 2012, 00:12

Don't know why the charged cars wouldn't win. But at least this will be screaming its tits off during lol.
Should be worth the time and money in the end
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#1420 28th August 2012, 14:33

Cracking results Josh!! Looking forward to seeing sandy squeeze sone more power out of it now the pump has been fitted!!

Understand you probably don't want to list the spec.... But has it got standard or oversized valves? And standard or oversized pistons?
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#1421 28th August 2012, 15:45

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Seems the video isn't working, here's the direct link to the video

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...434286CB29.mp4

Fuck me she picks up quickly! Epic Josh I bet you're over the moon with it

And of course props to Sandy as usual for applying his talent in such a remarkable way - top man!

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#1422 28th August 2012, 19:15

Thanks Lewis.

Pump is in and solved the fuelling problem. It felt much stronger with that done and even before raising the 8k rev limit it was making about 8-10bhp more at the wheels in our rollers at 7500rpm with the right fuelling. Raised the limit as far as I'm prepared to take it (for longevity) and it still head butts the limiter. It feels truly epic now, blatantly more grunt than the chassis can handle in the lower gears and I'm very pleased with it.

It's on a standard 1.6 crank (without any of the worrying counterweight removal I've seen some people doing!) and overbored with slightly oversize valves, but still on original inserts which tells you they aren't as big as some people are using! I'm not going to be specific about dimensions I'm afraid, I don't want to fill in the missing pieces for my competitors. It's a package I've evolved over several years and I'm quite protective of the details

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#1423 28th August 2012, 19:23

Sounds awesome. Really awesome! You dont do renaults do you? Lol
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#1424 28th August 2012, 19:33

Not really, I'm building a full race development F4R with a friend of mine currently (Nick at Pure Motorsport), but it's such a pain in the arse engine beyond fast road spec, I'm not sure if I'll do any more!
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#1425 28th August 2012, 19:38

Should think ekking more power out the f4r is quite a challenge isnt it sandy??

Cant see you nearly doubling the power on one of them like you mangage so well on the good old j4
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#1426 28th August 2012, 19:44

Double JP4 maybe, but not quite J4! F4R is a shame really, lets down an otherwise good car. Probably shouldn't start a debate on Josh's thread, but the EW in the 206 is a vastly better engine on just about every level for race use.

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#1427 28th August 2012, 20:02

Many thanks for The reply regarding the valves / pistons sandy! Very interesting! Congrats to you and Josh for an epic build! Also interesting to see it pick up so quickly witha standard crankshaft, I agree that some pictures of 'lightened' tu crankshafts do look very much butchered!!

Looking forward to seeing / hearing this at some point Josh!!
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#1428 28th August 2012, 20:09

You don't have any 'high end' car owning friends do you jp?
Would be very interesting seeing your car versus say a lotus exige or a megane RS or something like that
I'd imagine it would muller them.

1/4 mile and track

#1429 28th August 2012, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy309

Double JP4 maybe, but not quite J4! F4R is a shame really, lets down an otherwise good car. Probably shouldn't start a debate on Josh's thread, but the EW in the 206 is a vastly better engine on just about every level for race use.

Weird how the psa frogs can built very tunable engines but the renault frogs cant

P.s. sorry josh

#1430 28th August 2012, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

You don't have any 'high end' car owning friends do you jp?
Would be very interesting seeing your car versus say a lotus exige or a megane RS or something like that

I'd imagine it would muller them.

1/4 mile and track

He has a mate with a megane r26 engine in a clio 200... Would tha do

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#1431 28th August 2012, 20:15

Perfect! I've always thought that would be an amazing conversion! Someone has done it in a standard twingo too lol

Video due by tomorrow jp!
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#1432 28th August 2012, 22:51

such an epic car! especially now sandys waved his wizard sleeve magic on that engine!

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#1433 29th August 2012, 06:44

i bet its awesome pulling to the limiter now, it was epic before!
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#1434 29th August 2012, 10:47

I shall be removing your sunstrip at Trax

This is all :-)
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#1435 29th August 2012, 10:52

I hope there is lots of videos etc of this thing flying round the track!! Its certainly changed since I last saw it in the flesh about 4 or so years ago
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#1436 29th August 2012, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeroybrown

I shall be removing your sunstrip at Trax

This is all :-)

Ive already taken it off mate

Baz - I've got one session booked, need to build my confidence up with the car step by step
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#1437 29th August 2012, 13:43

Here's Sandy having fun with it on the rollers yesterday

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...AA9CF41170.mp4

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#1438 29th August 2012, 17:41

hehe, synchro abuse!! did I spy a little grin at the end?
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#1439 29th August 2012, 17:42

Awesome!
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#1440 29th August 2012, 17:49

Sounds crazy! The exhaust looks mental from what can be seen in that video!
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#1441 29th August 2012, 18:03

Insane JP can't wait to see it at the weekend.
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#1442 29th August 2012, 18:38

Lol love the little smile at the sandy
Top work and massive praise goes to you.... All I can say is those horrible evening spent working on this has made it so worth while

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#1443 30th August 2012, 00:54

Really wish I where coming to trax just to see this :,(
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#1444 30th August 2012, 05:49

A little grin yeah, it's a great engine, I love it! I couldn't really explain how much I put into building one of these; but the satisfaction once it's done is immense.

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#1445 30th August 2012, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG

Really wish I where coming to trax just to see this :,(

Im convoying down with him :-D can't wait to see it.
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#1446 31st August 2012, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liamjrhodes

Im convoying down with him :-D can't wait to see it.

await an assault on your ears!!! like he did to me on the way to work.... only because i asked him to as we both left home lol
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#1447 31st August 2012, 06:43

Bbbbbbbbbbwarppppppppp
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#1448 31st August 2012, 12:40

Can't wait for Trax lads
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#1449 31st August 2012, 12:58

Cant wait to see this at trax! Fair play mate, this is amazing.
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#1450 31st August 2012, 16:55

Im in love with this car. You just throw money at it like youve got your own money tree haha. Great work mate
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#1451 1st September 2012, 17:53

More than just money in these sort of projects. Great work mate enjoy trax, should be fun out round silverstone.
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#1452 1st September 2012, 19:07

Yeah more a love affair lol
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#1453 3rd September 2012, 07:25

Pictures really dont do this car justice saw it at trax yesterday was soo nice. Good work!

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#1454 3rd September 2012, 07:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by robharnett

Pictures really dont do this car justice saw it at trax yesterday was soo nice. Good work!

Cheers buddy, I'll update this thread properly tonight, now Trax is done and dusted
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#1455 3rd September 2012, 07:50

video video video home boy
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#1456 3rd September 2012, 07:51

Epic

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#1457 3rd September 2012, 08:45

Awesome engine. So jealous. Ha.
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#1458 3rd September 2012, 08:47

Is there no tidier looking route for the accel cable? Looks untidy but having a look I can't really see where it can go without being burnt to bits lmao
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#1459 3rd September 2012, 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

Is there no tidier looking route for the accel cable? Looks untidy but having a look I can't really see where it can go without being burnt to bits lmao

With some clever routing, it could come through the scuttle (180 degrees from where it actuates the throttle body now). Have to figure out how to get it from the pedal to the scuttle mind, but that's the easy part. Lot of effort for a cosmetic thing though!
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#1460 3rd September 2012, 09:12

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#1461 3rd September 2012, 09:20

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Originally Posted by unreal106

Epic

It was SO clean mate, love it

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

video video video home boy

Bug Dagley for it, was done on a gopro2 so should be good quality, I've already asked the mrs for one for Christmas lol
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#1462 3rd September 2012, 10:10

Lovely car JP

Think that throttle cable could be re-routed. Apart from that, amazing
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#1463 3rd September 2012, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

It was SO clean mate, love it

Bug Dagley for it, was done on a gopro2 so should be good quality, I've already asked the mrs for one for Christmas lol

Just editing it a bit now (just removing the bit where we stuck it on the windscreen, drive over to the track etc). Then I'll upload it
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#1464 3rd September 2012, 10:32

That manifold is a work of art
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#1465 3rd September 2012, 10:33

Swwwweeeeeet, I can't wait to see it
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#1466 3rd September 2012, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Swwwweeeeeet, I can't wait to see it

+1! Serious lack of video's and pictures from Trax been posted so far
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#1467 3rd September 2012, 10:54

josh, just been looking at ross's pictures!

2 things:

1) how the hell did your mrs fall asleep with those bodies barking on the way there?

2) who made your manifold / exhaust? and what price was it? pm me if you like
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#1468 3rd September 2012, 11:08

JP, where do you run your hoses from your oil catch tank please? i am on bodies to and your bay looks much tidier
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#1469 3rd September 2012, 11:54

Lookin quality mate, video is awesome
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#1470 3rd September 2012, 13:22

Here ya go Josh - remember to watch in HD.

It's got a box round it as I chose the wrong upload setting, so just reuploading now.

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#1471 3rd September 2012, 13:42

I just spent 15 mins I really should have been working, watching this lol!
Not a fan of silverstone but love the car, sounds amazing!
Glad to hear you enjoyed yourself
Good going
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#1472 3rd September 2012, 15:12

Looking good Josh! Where the hell did that M5 come from lmao. Lookin forward to more vids of this in the future!
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#1473 3rd September 2012, 19:23

Brilliant quality video mate and great noise can't Wait to see this wound up round the rng
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#1474 3rd September 2012, 20:54

Video shows the pure power of it! Megaaaa!

The scooby you pass at 5:40ish is the one that was parked up smashed up at the end of the day. Did he come off in your session? (this question might be answered once I watch the full video )
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#1475 3rd September 2012, 21:11

nice to see the standard of driving from JC owners has improved.

Even with good power in our little cans its a pain in the arse when the barges poodle through the corners then nail it down the straights.
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#1476 3rd September 2012, 22:09

subaru estate could of moved over sooner! the BMW made me laugh, just wants to get round quick :L

#1477 4th September 2012, 08:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proffitt

Lovely car JP

Think that throttle cable could be re-routed. Apart from that, amazing

Thanks mate, cable has to run like that, smoothest curve as possible to get it going as straight onto the TB spindle as possible

Quote:

Originally Posted by RossDagley

Just editing it a bit now (just removing the bit where we stuck it on the windscreen, drive over to the track etc). Then I'll upload it

Cheers daggers

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

That manifold is a work of art

Certainly is mate, made by Mike Edwards - very recommended!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

+1! Serious lack of video's and pictures from Trax been posted so far

Did you enjoy the video mate? I've got plenty of pics to upload & update this thread. I go back to Australia tomorrow so I'll sort it out when I get over there

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathias

josh, just been looking at ross's pictures!

2 things:

1) how the hell did your mrs fall asleep with those bodies barking on the way there?

2) who made your manifold / exhaust? and what price was it? pm me if you like

Lol...

1) Because a big group of us were playing laser quest until midnight on Saturday night & we got up at 4am ish to get ready. Plus it's very sociable before 4,000 rpm, after that all hell let's loose

2) A chap called Mike Edwards, he's an absalute legend, very recommended. Did a great job and turned it around quickly as well. Price... Very reasonable, especially considering its a once off jobbie, I'll let you sort that out with him if you want one

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy-Boy

JP, where do you run your hoses from your oil catch tank please? i am on bodies to and your bay looks much tidier

Hi mate, I find that you really need to plan everything properly and think it through to get a decent end result. Do you mean oil cooler? The oil catch tank hoses are pretty self explanatory I think, they come out of the jp4 covers (behind the coilpack cover) and directly to the catch tank.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Collavts

Lookin quality mate, video is awesome

Thanks mate, glad you like it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RossDagley

Here ya go Josh - remember to watch in HD.

It's got a box round it as I chose the wrong upload setting, so just reuploading now.

Josh Preston's Sandy Brown 200+bhp Citroen Saxo - YouTube

Did you get round to uploading the one without the black box around it mate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaniemoo

I just spent 15 mins I really should have been working, watching this lol!
Not a fan of silverstone but love the car, sounds amazing!
Glad to hear you enjoyed yourself
Good going

Lol cheers Moo, I hope it was worth the potential telling off lol. It does sound pretty epic once you get up the top end, although its pretty sociable under 4.5k

Personally I don't mind silverstone, in general I don't like boring flat airfield tracks, but silverstone flows very nicely and I like the quick corners (Becketts, maggots etc). If the track had undulation it would be epic I reckon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

Looking good Josh! Where the hell did that M5 come from lmao. Lookin forward to more vids of this in the future!

I know, only pass on the left, BMW comes flying up the inside on the right lol. If I would have passed on the right it would have been alot easier lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

Brilliant quality video mate and great noise can't Wait to see this wound up round the rng

I can't as well Tom, bring it on! 8:30 laps are on the cards I think

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanSaxo

Video shows the pure power of it! Megaaaa!

The scooby you pass at 5:40ish is the one that was parked up smashed up at the end of the day. Did he come off in your session? (this question might be answered once I watch the full video

)

I was on brooklands straight when the session was red flagged so I'm not exactly sure what happened mate. The power makes me giggle, it's insane for a 1.6 NA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

nice to see the standard of driving from JC owners has improved.

Even with good power in our little cans its a pain in the arse when the barges poodle through the corners then nail it down the straights.

Lol true Ryan, eventually I had to get aggressive and go for it, or risk just pootleing around at the back for 20mins

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy-Boy

subaru estate could of moved over sooner! the BMW made me laugh, just wants to get round quick :L

Yeah coming out of the corner he completely blocked me, I lost my momentum, then he pulled over but kept his foot in, so by the time I was back up the rev's and reeling him in we were at the next corner... Oh well... I don't let it wind me up tbh, just get on it it

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#1478 4th September 2012, 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by RossDagley

Cheers for taking the pics, love them, great quality

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Originally Posted by Prickle

Awesome engine. So jealous. Ha.

Lol Prickle, Sandy has definitely produced a monster of an engine
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#1479 4th September 2012, 09:07

Whats the final bhp/torque figure now? Also what weight are you at now?
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#1480 4th September 2012, 09:37

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Whats the final bhp/torque figure now? Also what weight are you at now?

If you came to Trax you'd know

805kg with half a tank of fuel, 221bhp @ fly & 150lbft torque
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#1481 4th September 2012, 10:06

221??!! Blimey from.a 1.6 non turbo!!

That must feel awesome! Bhp/tonne is pretty special too.

Nah my Twingi is has been too busy breaking slave cylinders at Bedford to do do anything like that haha. First unreliable french car i've had although something french has still not stopped me from getting home so it could be worse...
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#1482 4th September 2012, 10:10

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

If you came to Trax you'd know

805kg with half a tank of fuel, 221bhp @ fly & 150lbft torque

Stonking figures there and I bet the driveability is amazing. Would it be safe to say this engine build was in double figures in terms of thousands (£)?

Very interested in the design of the manifold, whats the rest of the system like? 2 boxes? What tailpipe did you go for?
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#1483 4th September 2012, 14:45

Cant believe you are pissing off to OZ again Josh.

You should ship the thing out there and go attack Bathurst.
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#1484 4th September 2012, 21:57

As promised, some pics from the build. Aside from the waiting list, it takes me about 4 months to put an engine together like this one. I have other stuff going on around it obviously, it's not a solid start to finish build. Many custom parts need to be sourced, I need to make some of them and some processes I like to do in stages, like porting the head; if I can get it to a stage and leave it for a few days and come back to it, I see it in a clearer more objective light than just locking the door until it's done! Managing the way I work is as important to the quality of the build as the engineering.
I'll detail some of the stuff, but alot will remain undisclosed, because I don't want to give away too much of how I get the engine to work the way I want! Power is an important objective, but the way the power is delivered is every bit as important and I also aim to design in reliability, durability, ease of use and ease of maintenance. My race engines come back every one to two seasons for rebuilding and I like to make that process as simple and enjoyable as possible, but decisions and tweaks made in the first build.

Turning the valves. I can't get the exact size and shape valves I want off the shelf and because I'm always making slight variations to the spec to try and improve the engines, I can't afford to tie myself to a bulk order. So I buy blanks and perform the finishing and groove cutting myself. Faces are finished on a Serdi valve grinding machine for high precision and equality.

Block bored and honed in the wash tank before being decked and surface ground

Crank getting a clean after journal polishing. I don't grind or lighten the cranks, I use low mileage ones that polish easily and balance them, that's all; the severe lightening I've seen some do worries me greatly!

About ready for first dry build

Custom CP pistons laid out. This is an "X-forging" slipper design, extremely strong, light and low friction, but thanks to good design and material, durable too. Much less likely to fail by fracture too if things go a bit wrong; that may seem an odd priority, but engine failure can and sometimes does occur, if you use the right bits then secondary failures can do alot more damage than the primary cause. Alot more expense and down time for a race engine!

Pulleys, springs etc. Double springs are used, by Piper in this case. Their springs are extremely consistent and reliable, something that has been an issue for me in the past with other suppliers.

Plastigauge on all bearings, a quick and easy way to check built up clearances. Assume nothing, check everything!

Checking ring gaps, should be checked at various depths in the bore to get a braod view. Piston can be used to push it in square, skewed it will mis-read. I use conventional ring packs, witnessed alot of misery and frustration with "Total Seal" etc types. CPs ring packs generally need little or no gapping if the bore is correct and bed in wonderfully quick on a suitably honed bore.

Block surface ground and painted, no core plugs as yet though. Surface grinding the head gasket faces ensures ultimate precision and the perfect finish for an MLS gasket. Precision is the groundwork of reliability.

Onto slightly cruder matters. Scummy seal housings don't do any harm, but if you have access to a vapour blaster and make sure they're properly cleaned of media after, can be nice.

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#1485 4th September 2012, 22:23

ahhh Mike does make an awesome exhaust, full system?
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#1486 4th September 2012, 22:27

Skimming off the inlet and exhaust gasket faces, fly cutting is fine for this! Makes the seal more reliable if you have a nice clean face and looks nice too

Head just about ready, another wash before another dry build!

Inlet manifold ported and ready. I make a specific GSXR bodies set up for the race engines, slightly bigger bodies, different shape tracts to suit the ported head (ported with the head, so even better than "Direct to head" type bodies), twin injectors and trumpet profile I've evolved to create the right pulse tuned response with the race engine package.

Lots of nice shiny and mostly new bits. I favour genuine for most of the seals, gaskets etc; quality is consistent and often cheaper than aftermarket bizarrely.

New core plugs going into the block. They don't ever really need to be replaced in these engines, but looks right!

Checking crank end float. You can see some surface rust on the block, despite the care I take to avoid it! Note gasket lines not painted to ensure a good face for the sealant. I hate oil leaks and it cleans up easier like that during a rebuild.

Head, ladders and cams laid out ready for valve clearance machining.

Pistons going in for the last time. I have sleeve type ring compressors for my regular bore sizes, much much gentler and easier to use than clamp type.

Checking valve to piston drop before the head's final assembly. I've already worked it out, but a physical check confirms it and informs me the safe amount of cam swing. My cam timing in this package is a fixed value really after extensive engine dyno testing of various configurations, but I prefer to know and have good notes, in case I discover a better way in the future.

Bottom end nearing completion! Note Peugeot Sport sump baffle. I know cheaper ones are available, but the manufacturing quality of this kit is the best I've seen We've considered making out own version, but we'd struggle to do it this well for the money, even with the machine and fabrication resources we have. I also much prefer the main bolt mounting to the faff of multiple gasket faces with a sandwich type. When you have to reliably seal and then clean and reseal at rebuild time, it starts to matter!

More from the final stages and mapping etc later.

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#1487 4th September 2012, 23:03

What a great few pages of updates!!!

I don't know if anyone's done it yet but using your atf figures and the weight at TRAX your at 274.5BHP/T!!!!!!!!!

Holy CRAP dude!!!

ps, Sorry for looking mongish in the award photo!! Was knackered by then!

Well done.
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#1488 4th September 2012, 23:12

I figured it would be high as a guess but didn't realise it was that high! Blimey a focus rs is around 203bhp/tonne!

Sandy how the hell do you get into your job lol i mean how do you end up doing that stuff with your life i mean its pretty specialist?!
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#1489 5th September 2012, 06:39

Sandy - thank you for this little insight into engine buildin from your self like your notes after every image and good work on keeping the best bits covered up it takes a long time to develop these things to have someone steal the ideas would be horrible!

just a couple of questions have you used some form of grease on the oil pump chain?

and if you don't mind what finish is on the inlet tract? 320 grit level or higher?
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#1490 5th September 2012, 06:40

also is the plastigauge measured in mm or inch? which way round have you got the card there?
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#1491 5th September 2012, 07:26

I am über jealous of this engine!
Amazing build!?
Wish there was some way within the realms of possibility that I could have one of these engines!

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#1492 5th September 2012, 08:01

Joe- I'll spare you the long version, but it's quite accidental really. Cars have been a life long obsession and despite my parents' best efforts to steer me into something more glamorous (I studied yacht design), I've always built and modified my own cars as a hobby. Through that I met John Read (JRE racing engines), Mark Shillaber (SRD) and Colin Satchell. I became friends with them and John and Mark nurtured my mapping skills to the point where they offered to employ me to do it and make looms for them; so I left my "proper" job and went full time on this (2006). That work remains my main work, Colin and I are close friends and he's given me alot of machining and engineering skills; which I've honed through working with Pete Willis (PWE), who's renowned for his high precision and also ports heads for several well known engine builders! Pete has an engine building history to be envied, going back to Brian Hart, when they were building the works Escort engines (BD series). Building engines to a decent standard is a very tough way to make money and if anything goes wrong, you're pretty much instantly going into loss; so I limit the number I do, to ensure I can keep doing it well and the mapping/loom work I do for others is really what puts bread on the table. The engines I build now are almost exclusively for competition; but the occasional interesting road/track engine is nice to do if it's going to be a well thought out project.

Tom- Grease on oil pump chain is Graphogen. It's pretty horrible stuff, which gives black globs in the oil for a couple of changes after the build, but it hangs on really well to ensure good lubrication on first start up. If an engine is going straight on the dyno, I use less of that and more oil, but I knew this one would be stood around for a week or two and oil will then drain away.
Don't really want to give away how I get the tract finish TBH, but flash photography always makes porting look rougher than it is, so a bit of a distraction!
Plastigauge being used in imperial. I use thou on smaller tolerances and mm on bigger measurements! I have to be bi-focal on this, Some of the machines I use are imperial and some are metric; hopefully keeps my brain alive.

Moving on a bit... Come the end of July, I was closing in on my much anticipated week off at the start of August and Josh's target date for going to the ring was looming. It was starting to look a bit too optimistic for him to make that, but I kept trying anyway. I don't like sending engines, because of the risks involved (I've known friend's engines get damaged or go missing all together in transit!) So I was relieved that Josh came to collect it. I normally engine dyno all my engines now (mainly to ensure they run ok and run them in before fitting), but that would have meant a couple extra days and this spec is so well practiced and the package so developed, that any data is likely to be repeated. You can see I run a nose mounted crank trigger on this spec, combined with our own steel flywheel. Colin prepares me a special version of his crank pulley kit for that purpose.

Josh had modified the bulkhead for a bit more induction room without the engine. We have to dress the scuttle back or cut it away to get sufficient clearance for the layout I use, so I supplied him with as much information as I could on what was needed. It did fit, which is a credit to the mods, but only just and might well be a bit restrictive as it is!

It was fine though and after a bit of an epic sorting out all the issues around the 7.25" race clutch, Josh had it ready in the car once I was back from holiday. Early on it didn't go well, there were a few issues with the interior loom that had been modified, some of which we had to solve there and then, some of which I had to work around. A faulty oil pressure switch also caused some concern until we found out what was wrong!! I have already put alot of time to refining the ignition map for this spec on previous race engines and once the lead angle was calibrated (a very important mapping basic that's often not corrected!!) it was quickly running smoothly and I started to put some miles on it to let it settle down.

The rollers I'm using here are a good old fashioned set of Sun RAM XII, the mainstay of the industry for many years and a perfect donkey machine for the sort of setting up I do. More modern equipment can produce nice looking graphs and give a convincing impression of accuracy in many cases, but all I'm interested in here is to run it in, making sure it drives correctly and has clean fueling and ignition properties throughout the range. Running in can be a laborious process for some engines, but the precision, machining methods and materials I use mean that within a few hours, it'll be pretty much as good as it'll ever be and should give long service with minimal attention.

Once I started to drive through the outer areas of the range, it became clear that there was some sort of fueling issue. No matter how much injector duration or pump enrichment I added, it couldn't quite keep pace and went lean. Beyond 7000rpm it was really getting iffy and I deduced the most likely cause to be the fuel pump. My race engines are usually in cars with custom tanks and pumps, so I've never had this problem before. Once the map was essentially sound, bar the upper extremes, I set a lower rev limit (8000rpm) and advised Josh that it would be ok to drive home to fix the problem, but care should be taken!

Once Josh was ready to go, I asked him to brim the tank up the road, then again when he got home (250 odd miles) and report the miles and litres, to give me an idea on economy. He did and I was surprised but pleased to see 37.9mpg!

In the interim, Josh sourced an uprated pump and although driving carefully, sent me regular reports about the performance! He took it to a local rolling road shoot out as it was and although it was clearly not running correctly, it still showed 211bhp and 149lbft.

Once the pump was fitted, he drove back down to me so I could properly finish the map with a decent fuel supply. It was transformed, it was only now I could see how bad the fuel supply was before and it felt and sounded stronger everywhere. I raised the rev limit to 8800rpm, it's safe to go higher, but my engines don't generally need to be revved high to perform, due to the low down power and flexibility; so it's preferred to keep the limit sensible.
Once the map was perfected in the rollers, I wanted to see what the fueling was like on the road, as with the changes in air delivery at speed, it often differs. With Josh driving I watched how it went. 1st-2nd-3rd were really an assault on the transmission and tyres and it became clear that it needed more fuel over the top (7k+) than in the rollers, by up to 7%. I regularly see this with testing on rally cars etc and makes me wonder how many purely rolling roaded cars are seeing ideal AFR out in use. I've corrected cars this way in the past and when one was taken to a well known rolling road for a magazine article, they reported it was rich over the top; well if they'd have tested it as thoroughly as I did... they'd know why!

On his way back home again, I asked Josh to do the brim thing again, once home he left it overnight and cold started before re-filling, with the improvements it now gave a simply astonishing 43.5mpg! Some of my race customers have reported improvements from about 1.1 down to 0.7 litres per lap with my engine over their previous ones; so I knew I was getting good efficiency, but bloody hell!

Josh was able to pop back to the same rollers and drop it in again. As mentioned above, it's probably a bit rich over the top now and a slight wobble in the curve would suggest that, but nevertheless, 221bhp at 8750rpm and 151lbft at 6850rpm are in the right area, about 5% less power/torque than the best I've seen from this spec on the engine dyno, but could be partly down to the engine bay and rolling road variation. But the curve is plain to see. It's almost standard for other engine builders to question my engine dyno figures, in particular the curves my engines generate. Well, say what you like about the figures (race results kinda back them up), but i don't think you can argue with the curve!

Thanks to Josh for his faith throughout the project and all the fine souls that continue to help and support me

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#1493 5th September 2012, 09:18

thanks sandy - i appreciate the finish is hard to give away but that is enough information for me I understand now what has gone on. thanks

great work as always well done!
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#1494 5th September 2012, 09:42

just had a flick through, poor MA box
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#1495 5th September 2012, 09:47

Excellent report sandy. Well done again.

Congratulations josh for owning it!

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#1496 5th September 2012, 17:05

Thanks for the write up sandy.

Nice to see the curve, a lot of us have dips at certain RPMs with different set ups so shows how well thought out the pulse tuning as well as the rest of the build is thought out.
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#1497 5th September 2012, 18:57

sandy brown that's an epic write up and after experiencing a passenger ride in this car it's an animal.. so smooth on delivery and just so astonishing well put together.

you sir are a legend amongst men! fair play sandy!
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#1498 5th September 2012, 19:42

Was excellent to see josh, looked great on track. Sandy, just amazing build.
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#1499 5th September 2012, 20:15

Lee how wild you say it compared to Danny's when low boosted?
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#1500 5th September 2012, 20:16

AWESOME write up Sandy

So not only are you getting 274.5 Bhp/ton but your getting 43.5mpg as well!!! What an absolutely amazing piece of engineering! I can't believe the performance that these little engines can have squeezed out of them when setup and run properly. I genuinely am in total awe of this build. Well done.

Some may accuse me of blowing smoke up your arses but you know what, I could think of worse things to be accused of lol!

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#1501 6th September 2012, 01:46

Hi from Malaysia

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#1502 6th September 2012, 07:06

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Lee how wild you say it compared to Danny's when low boosted?

it's hard to say really Tom Danny's was just a delivery of torque followed by a lot of pace. in jp's you feel like your going really quick but Theres hardly any kick the delivery is that perfect. like you know in our cars in say 2nd when you mash the throttle from like 2k to limiter you get that kick near 4k well in jps you don't really notice that, the mph just builds fast like. no doubt in my mind low boost will still be quicker than Josh's car but I really don't think there's much in it at all mate

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#1503 6th September 2012, 21:09

I think its us lot that should be giving the thanks to you sandy

...oh and josh with his deep pockets
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#1504 7th September 2012, 06:16

Cheers Scottie!

I'm not sure it's easy to make fair comparisons between an engine like this and boosted ones. The delivery is completely different and although in a straight line ultimately the boosted ones should be more powerful and hence quicker; around a track things are very different.
I've developed this spec through racing and it's been proven to be quicker than vastly more powerful charged cars running under the same rules. The elastic and bump delivery of a charged engine is not that helpful in FWD, especially out of tight corners, where traction dictates the speed onto the next straight, track position for defending and so on. It's a bit like filling a cup from a tap compared to a bucket! Having incisive, accurate and predictable driveability, with a wide power band to ride out a single gear on the exit from lower revs; really helps with track performance. That's why I've developed my engines towards a wide/full curve and nicely sloped part throttle behaviour. It's a happy side effect that it makes for a nice engine on the road too!
Spiky or stepped delivery can make the power seem greater, because of the calm and storm effect, but it's misleading in regard of true performance. It's a widely held view, that Honda deliberately dialled in the step in VTEC delivery to emphasise the higher rev performance, I've mapped alot of Honda engines and they all lose the step easily if you move the switching point!

Outline spec (SB= Sandy Brown and CS= Colin Satchell):

JP4 block over-bored to piston spec.
Standard 82mm JP4 crank, journals polished and balanced, SB/CS custom steel flywheel, CS front mounted crank trigger and alloy pulleys
SB custom H-section rods by Robson
SB custom slipper forged pistons by CP
Peugeot Sport baffle kit in J4 sump pan
SB race JP4 cylinder head (Serdi precision cut seats, ported to suit spec, surface ground gasket face)
SB custom single piece stainless valves
Piper double springs and modified Piper retainers
SB custom solid followers
SB custom cam profiles ground by Piper
Piper cam pulleys
SB and CS race spec GSXR1000 TB inlet (ported with the head) with twin injectors per cylinder and ITG filter
SB designed custom exhaust manifold, made by Edwards Motorsport
DTA S40 ECU on SB custom loom
Helix 7.25" race cerametallic paddle clutch
Built and mapped by SB

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#1505 7th September 2012, 07:11

I hate the V-Tec step, if you're not changing at 8300rpm you are 'out' of it next gear and have to wait. Toyota did it on the 4AGE engine using retarded ignition timing up to 5500rpm when their T-VIS kicked in
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#1506 7th September 2012, 08:20

Looks ideal for a rally car .

Whats the ballpark figure for an engine alone mapped if the customer has some sb/cs bodies and an ecu already (your preffered s40!). Also would you use j4 or jp4?

The belgians would love this on the stages!
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#1507 7th September 2012, 08:55

I love the tractability of a flat torque curve. One of the reasons I sacked off the big bhp setup from last year was for this very reason - a tiny (un)usable power band thanks to a really spiky torque curve.

Even now, my curve is nowhere near as good as josh's but vastly improved from last year, making 250ft/lb from 4500 to 7000+ rpm, without changing more than 10ft/lb over that range. SO much more drivable.

Watching Josh's car at the weekend was just like that - smooth, long, effortless power. It's really dialled in well, and although needs more power () really is something to see. I'm super impressed with how it goes!

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#1508 7th September 2012, 09:54

Thanks for all the comments lads,

I have to say.... Apart from the power (obviously) the drivability is the best thing about this engine. If (for any reason) I want to pootle along it will drive at 2,000 rpm in 5th perfectly fine, it will also start up with just a turn of the key and idles like a normal engine - let alone the excellent fuel economy.

I really am chuffed to bits with Sandys engine, can't fault it one bit!

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#1509 24th September 2012, 14:55

Hey guys

Apologies for the lack of updates on this that I promised after Trax, I've been flat out moving into our new apartment in Sydney and sorting everything out, our Internet should be installed in a week or 2, as soon as that's up and running I'll get this thread bang up to date

#1510 24th September 2012, 15:01

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Originally Posted by welshpug

Looks ideal for a rally car

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Whats the ballpark figure for an engine alone mapped if the customer has some sb/cs bodies and an ecu already (your preffered s40!). Also would you use j4 or jp4?

The belgians would love this on the stages!

The SB/CS bodies on Sandys race engines are different to the kits they supply, so you'd be looking at the full cost of the race engine baring the s40

This engine is a jp4 110bhp engine originally, so now producing over DOUBLE the power and still NA

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#1511 24th September 2012, 15:30

Fair enough, do you know how they differ and what would the ballpark figure be if the customer has a base engine?
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#1512 24th September 2012, 22:43

All - sorry for delay I've been rammed with work and meant to get the video sorted for this but it kinda got bumped down the todo list!

Josh, here's the HD version of your video. Looks a thousand times better than the quick hash

And sorry for the terrible image (camera phone shot of my laptop screen!) here's a grab of the power the car made peak by sector. It's not 100% accurate as I don't know your exact wheel/tire details and I've estimated Cd as 0.38 which is for a 106 iirc but it works out pretty close

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#1513 25th September 2012, 00:53

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Fair enough, do you know how they differ and what would the ballpark figure be if the customer has a base engine?

A jp4 engine is around £250? That's probably around 2% of the total build cost

The race TB's are slightly larger and matched to the head, if you read through Sandys posts over the last few pages he pretty much covers everything for you
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#1514 25th September 2012, 09:02

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A jp4 engine is around £250? That's probably around 2% of the total build cost

That's shocked me, about £12500 for the engine is a lot less than what I thought it would be!
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#1515 25th September 2012, 11:35

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That's shocked me, about £12500 for the engine is a lot less than what I thought it would be!

Exactly, its a bargain when you consider the work that goes into making an engine that no other engine builder in the Uk can achieve

#1516 25th September 2012, 11:45

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Originally Posted by Ross

All - sorry for delay I've been rammed with work and meant to get the video sorted for this but it kinda got bumped down the todo list!

Josh, here's the HD version of your video. Looks a thousand times better than the quick hash

JPSaxo - Citroen Saxo Westcoast 220+bhp NA - YouTube

And sorry for the terrible image (camera phone shot of my laptop screen!) here's a grab of the power the car made peak by sector. It's not 100% accurate as I don't know your exact wheel/tire details and I've estimated Cd as 0.38 which is for a 106 iirc but it works out pretty close

That would be around about right mate as I wasn't using the full rev's, that's a great insight into the speeds carried around the corners etc

15inch wheels / 50profile r888's are my track set up

#1517 25th September 2012, 12:06

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That would be around about right mate as I wasn't using the full rev's, that's a great insight into the speeds carried around the corners etc

15inch wheels / 50profile r888's are my track set up

Excellent - I'll recrunch the numbers tonight, but I don't think it'll drift from those figures much tbh.

I put the weight in as 900kgs iirc, as you had your fat self in there and the missus

Sound about right?

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#1518 25th September 2012, 12:25

The car is 805kg with half a tank, I'm 70kg & shay is 50kg + had a full tank of fuel so closer to 950kg in total I'd say

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#1519 25th September 2012, 12:45

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

The car is 805kg with half a tank, I'm 70kg & shay is 50kg + had a full tank of fuel so closer to 950kg in total I'd say

speaking of which... The photo of her sleeping... Hmmm, now where did that go??
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#1520 25th September 2012, 13:34

Haha! God knows how she could sleep with the bodies barking on the way down
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#1521 25th September 2012, 21:15

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Exactly, its a bargain when you consider the work that goes into making an engine that no other engine builder in the Uk can achieve

Its great what Sandy is doing but ive also seen very interesting figures from people in the Rally community (especially over in ireland).

I cant really see there being much more room for improvement from these engines mind. We are probably as close to the max figures we will ever see.

#1522 25th September 2012, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

Its great what Sandy is doing but ive also seen very interesting figures from people in the Rally community (especially over in ireland).

I cant really see there being much more room for improvement from these engines mind. We are probably as close to the max figures we will ever see.

Are you referring to the JRE engines that are in Ireland?

I'd imagine we are heading towards the maximum figure, but Sandys still striving for even better so you never know. There's about 5% between the RR figure and what the engines actualy capable of on the Engine dyno - I plan to open up the scuttle slightly to allow better air flow to the middle two cylinders and see if that helps

#1523 26th September 2012, 00:54

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Theres a few independents that have got good power.

Its a shame that QEP and everything went to shit, as the dyno testing they were doing with Dave from Pumaspeed was proving very interesting.

No scuttle FTW

http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2...highlight=maxi - incase not read this, an interesting read on both his figures/the final production ones from oreca.

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#1524 26th September 2012, 06:28

Alot of the JRE engines I map on our engine dyno go to Steven Gault's rolling road once fitted in the cars over there. I know how the figures for those compare.

The last engine I dyno'd in this spec (engine dyno, DIN corrected and calibrated, not to be confused with the vagueness of rolling road figures), was almost identical to Josh's, the only significant differences were Jenvey SF bodies on my own manifold (same tract design effectively as Josh's) and the same geometry exhaust, made by a different fabricator. Peak figures were 234bhp at 8500rpm (as far as I tested it) and 159lbft at 6500rpm, with two slightly different inlet configurations. I tried alot of different injectors and injector positions, cam timing etc to arrive at this, two days of dyno testing on an engine I've already developed extensively.

Here are the figures for two inlet tract variations I tried (these are the stable recorded steady state figures plotted on a simple Excel spread sheet):

Pictures of that engine on the dyno, showing some of the inlet/injectors variations I was testing:

Pics capturing the readout (DIN figures are what matter and ignore the Lambda display, we were using a separate one), believe me it was quite an emotional moment when I saw 230bhp+ for the first time!

Before everyone gets too carried away with peak or wide open throttle figures, I should point out the range of other qualities I have achieved with these engines that I'm proud of and I feel makes them stand apart from others... Driveability (they are totally road friendly and little need to be revved to perform), economy, no oil or water leaks even after a couple seasons, negligible breathing and oil consumption, so far total reliability and aside from the glitch with Josh's fuel system, after I've trimmed the map in the rollers and/or on the road once, that's it, they run sweetly until the next rebuild.

I regularly dyno other people's race and rally engines of similar spec that customers have paid in the region of £13-15k for and don't perform anywhere near like this. I haven't got a set price for this spec, because individual builds always have a certain amount of variation, customers have an ECU already etc, but from scratch, with OE crank, exhaust manifold, ECU+loom, race clutch and steel flywheel, dyno'd and ready to use, it's about £11-12k. I do limit my builds, because of the other ongoing commitments I have (about half of my work is mapping, wiring and development for other engine builders; also the need to do scheduled work on existing engines) and currently the waiting list is well into next year so I'm afraid I can't really consider doing any more just now.

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#1525 26th September 2012, 10:11

Always wondered what sort of price these engines were. Cheap for a race engine though and in comparison to the work sandy puts into these engines to say pug1off which they use just some atpower itb's that are universal rather than custom to the engines spec along with things like the valves not being off the shelf and being machined to suit.

Can see why it takes months to build too, spends day and half just on a loom and I was very impressed my loom he made for me.
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#1526 26th September 2012, 16:24

Thamks for the write up sandy. As mentioned previously fully aware of some of the 'dark art' as such any information shared is fully appreciated by a large number of us on the forums.

I don't suppose you happen to have experience of the air boxes used in the rallye reg link? I've got one here but it's just the air box at the mo and no mounting system etc for me to see about putting it together. (I'll grab a pic when back on my mac)
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#1527 26th September 2012, 19:22

I'm not really a fan of airboxes, they always have side effects and although they can lower the inlet temp in a static situation (ie queuing for a start or on a rolling road, out on the go, they really don't make much difference. I say that with quite alot of testing experience to draw on! My engines rely heavily on inlet and exhaust pulse tuning to do what they do and the air box design can profoundly affect that. Although I've seen airboxes produce spiked figure improvements on occasion, I've never yet seen one improve the delivery overall and single entry ones, like plenums, don't ever sound anything like as nice as open induction. On forward facing engines I like to have a nice wide open airbox where practical, that doesn't impact the pulse tuning; example, here's our 205 hilllclimb car, which we did as much to split and manage the ingested air to the rad, as to the induction:

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#1528 26th September 2012, 19:24

Im not a fan of them either, but I cannot run on some tracks as it currently stands
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#1529 26th September 2012, 21:15

That looks properly fun. What sort of league is that car in?
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#1530 27th September 2012, 06:09

2 litre modified production hillclimb and sprint.

More about it here if you're interested: http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index...owtopic=140057
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#1531 27th September 2012, 22:21

That 205's a BEAST Sandy
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#1532 27th September 2012, 23:58

I always love your write ups Sandy! Top man for sharing so much info!
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#1533 20th October 2012, 12:36

Ok time to properly update this from the start of 2012...where do I start?

So to begin with we stripped the car for Mark to do his work on it...

At Marks...

In progress...

Primered

And painted

And the underneath all repaired, stripped and painted/stone chipped
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#1534 20th October 2012, 12:36

So then we began to build it back up... Satshifter & steering shiz first

Gearbox was rebuilt in the mean time, all bits were strengthened... (Thanks Tom!)

Carbon Lorraine RC5+ pads

Relocated both fuse boxes in behind the dash

Mark finished the CF Bonnet

& fitted the CF-look areocatches...

Fitted a proper SPAL fan
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#1535 20th October 2012, 12:36

Now was time to fit the engine....

As most know; this is a Sandy Brown top 2012 spec producing silly power for a jp4 NA engine

Sandy finished the engine in the back of his BMW lol

Put the engine in

Had a few issues along the way...

So out came the grinder lol

Oil cooler fitted

Modified the catch tank...

Fitted Sandys engine race loom

Dad made a bracket for the coilpack to sit neartly next to the engine...

Had a few issues with the clutch being too hardcore for the standard gearbox selector arm...

so that was beef'ed up by dad

and sprayed of course

Car was now ready, Olly then Trucked us down to 'Mike Edwards' for custom manifold / exhaust making & fitting to Sandy's spec

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#1536 20th October 2012, 12:56

looking good matey, really do like how far you have gone with this especially as it started of as a normal westcoast!

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#1537 20th October 2012, 13:17

From Mike's we towed it down to Sandys for lift off.... dad did an epic Leicester - London - Cornwall & back to Leicester trip in one day!

After a few issues we eventually got down to mapping the following day...

The magician at work!

The engine was mapped as far as the standard pump could supply enough fuel... so I drove it back home to Leicester that evening and ordered a new intank fuel pump which was to be fitted as soon as it arrived...

In the mean time the manifold was turning nice funky colours

Mean while I set about adding a few lightening touches (battery weights 960grams!). My brother also made a DIY cage for the battery to hold it in place

Couple of ring stickers added (of course!)

Shift light carefully fitted & secured into the dash buttons

Tom Kindly offered to give it a good whoring
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#1538 20th October 2012, 13:18

The fuel pump then arrived so we fitted that (what a bastard!)

Old one

New one

The problem (too big!)

I also tracked down the 2 remaining westcoast badges in the UK (one from up North & the other from Northern Island!)

Some Chimp (cheers Nick ) also sent me my Mango citroen badge back.... lol

Couple of other bits in my obsession to make it as reliable as possible (old vs new)
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#1539 20th October 2012, 14:24

The end result...

RED graph with old fuel pump

BLUE graph with new fuel pump, you can see a clear improvement from 6,750rpm all the way to the limiter
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#1540 20th October 2012, 14:38

TRAX 2012

Then it was time to have a bit of fun in it before I returned to the land down under to see the Sun

Best Saxo 2012 award

I also had a bit of fun out on track....

After Trax I popped over to Mallory with Lee to get it weighed... 805kg with half a tank of juice, just need to find another 5kg of weight saving now lol

Finally it was time to store it away for the winter while im in Sydney... gave it a lick of paint first (with the help of the mrs & my brother!)

And you can see it hiding behind my shitbox 106XR daily up on Axel stands with no steering wheel / ECU / Battery etc

I certainly wont be forgetting it while im away
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#1541 20th October 2012, 15:12

wicked build i love this!
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#1542 20th October 2012, 15:46

The main 2012 update is on the previous page guys

Couple of videos;

Sandy having fun in the first mapping session (OE fuel pump)

And the first RR run (with OE fuel pump) - You'll need the turn the volume up for this one as my car has quite literally wrecked the microphone on my iphone 4S lol

And finally Sandy having fun on the rollers with the uprated fuel pump and over 220bhp's under his right foot - You'll need to turn the volume up on this video as well because of my wrecked microphone lol

TRAX Silverstone 2012 video of me on track, kindly taken on Ross's GoPro

http://youtu.be/TWdKnZdMLEw

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#1543 20th October 2012, 16:03

If I'm honest I have never really liked the colour,

But the work gone into this from sandy to mark you and your dad ect... is just way beyond. That exhaust manifold is amazing its more art and the fact it's made for function over looks is just brilliant.
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#1544 20th October 2012, 16:21

I think mango is great but its spoiled with the black arches and boot floor
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#1545 20th October 2012, 20:29

Finally got online to update lol!
Loving the update, car is awesome.
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#1546 21st October 2012, 00:15

Nice writeup pal.

Rofl ing at the xr still has a rim job.

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#1547 21st October 2012, 00:20

Love the car, love the engine, love the colour, love the detail and effort!

Basically love it!

Edit : love the carbon!

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#1548 21st October 2012, 00:52

Amazing progress to say the least !
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#1549 21st October 2012, 05:05

Well what can I say.... Just been a pleasure to help develop this over the last 6 years from a shocker to a top notch heroic car ..... Nuts brackets and every last little thing not left to be replaced or attacked by the sander to get repainted.

You'll see her soon bro

Oh P.S.
Now it's my turn JP
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#1550 21st October 2012, 11:03

This has to be THE benchmark NA Saxo!

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#1551 21st October 2012, 14:46

Top car for a top guy, what else can I say, certainly one of the finest cars on here!
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#1552 21st October 2012, 15:58

Im waiting for the nurburgring videos...

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#1553 21st October 2012, 19:34

Mango is nice! Love everything about this car.

Needs more pics of the exhaust manifold, that thing is a work of art!

#1554 22nd October 2012, 06:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bedford126

If I'm honest I have never really liked the colour,

But the work gone into this from sandy to mark you and your dad ect... is just way beyond. That exhaust manifold is amazing its more art and the fact it's made for function over looks is just brilliant.

Thanks mate, the whole car is made to be as quick & functional as possible, but also at the same time I've tries to keep it looking tidy, comfortable & driveable all at the same time. It's certainly been a fine line!

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshpug

I think mango is great but its spoiled with the black arches and boot floor

Really? You don't even see the mango arches or boot floor tbh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaniemoo

Finally got online to update lol!
Loving the update, car is awesome.

Yep finally got our Internet installed into our new flat and found a few free hours between 11pm-3am on sat night to update - yes it took me 4 hours to write this update. Main issue was finding the pictures on my laptop / portable hard drive / camera / phone lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olly

Nice writeup pal.

Rofl ing at the xr still has a rim job.

Cheers mate, you've been a big part of this ferrying the car around. The ring trip & lap in the legendary XR was pay back

haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathias

Love the car, love the engine, love the colour, love the detail and effort!

Basically love it!

Edit : love the carbon!

Haha thanks matey, can't beat a bit of CF

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhysg

Amazing progress to say the least !

it's been 8 years in the making but I feel the car is near enough as I want it now. Still some slight improvements to come but apart from that its 99% as I want it

Quote:

Originally Posted by piggy123

Well what can I say.... Just been a pleasure to help develop this over the last 6 years from a shocker to a top notch heroic car

..... Nuts brackets and every last little thing not left to be replaced or attacked by the sander to get repainted.

You'll see her soon bro

Oh P.S.
Now it's my turn JP

8 years Sam!! Crazy how the car has been transformed in that time...

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickP

This has to be THE benchmark NA Saxo!

Depends on which aspect your talking about, but across all aspects I hope so

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJN

Top car for a top guy, what else can I say, certainly one of the finest cars on here!

Kind words Pete, bring on the ring 2013 trip

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Im waiting for the nurburgring videos...

I'm back in Sydney now mate... I'll be back at Christmas to give the car some loving & we are arranging a huge ring trip for 2013 woooop bring.it.on!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo0907

Mango is nice! Love everything about this car.

Needs more pics of the exhaust manifold, that thing is a work of art!

The manifold definitely sets it apart from anything else I've ever seen. Mike Edwards did a cracking job on it

what other pics do you want?

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#1555 22nd October 2012, 09:13

That manifold is the fucking tits!! Like saod, its a work of art! car looks amazing mate well done!
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#1556 22nd October 2012, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

The manifold definitely sets it apart from anything else I've ever seen. Mike Edwards did a cracking job on it what other pics do you want?

Just some more pics of the manifold! Any more would do. I didn't think a series of pipes could look so good lol

What other little changes are you thinking of?

#1557 24th October 2012, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by white_vtr

That manifold is the fucking tits!! Like saod, its a work of art!

car looks amazing mate well done!

Nice words mate cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo0907

Just some more pics of the manifold! Any more would do. I didn't think a series of pipes could look so good lol

What other little changes are you thinking of?

Lol, I'll dig some out now...

Well I want to change the clutch, get a few brackets powder coated that I didn't have time to get done before, get a full interior loom made up to tidy that up & ill be getting some after market digital dials at the same time

That's the jobs for this winter, sounds easy but I'm only back in the UK for 2 weeks over Christmas between now and next summer, so need to get cracking over Christmas and get as much done as possible!

In the long term I need the upper strut brace modifying & scuttle opening up to allow more air to get more around the trumpets easier as I'm losing 10bhp+ from the engine dyno figure to the rolling road figure as it currently stands

EDIT;

Few more manifold pics...

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#1558 24th October 2012, 12:34

Looks great, Mike does turn out some fantastic work, any pics of the rest of the system? what kind of bore is it?
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#1559 24th October 2012, 13:09

Love the way this is a properly sorted machine.

Powdet coating brackets now that attention to detail!
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#1560 24th October 2012, 13:47

Half of them have already been done Joe, just didnt get time to do the rest as we ran out of time. Basically everything pre-engine was powdercoated where possible. I took a big box of bits and bobs to be done lol

The whole system from the manifold back was done by Mike. Its been done with proper push on connectors etc. I cant say any dimensions, primary lengths etc as we have to respect Sandys confidential information that hes spent months / years perfecting
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#1561 24th October 2012, 16:05

oh I agree with that wholeheartedly, I was just wondering on the bore of the system rather than the manifold bits as to what's required for something of this power/rpm/capacity

#1562 27th October 2012, 08:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshpug

oh I agree with that wholeheartedly, I was just wondering on the bore of the system rather than the manifold bits as to what's required for something of this power/rpm/capacity

Im not sure if Sandy wants to reveal that information either mate tbh

p.s. i saw your post about Mike Edwards and my manifold / engine on 306gti6 forum

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#1563 27th October 2012, 12:57

not a fan of this colour but this car is mint!
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#1564 27th October 2012, 14:17

This has to be one of the best saxos. I remember it on the cyclones any more plans for it josh ?

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#1565 27th October 2012, 14:21

I hope he plans on just enjoying it now tbh!!

Think there is a digi dash plan judging by some of his other posts on here!
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#1566 27th October 2012, 14:46

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Originally Posted by tazmania_0345

This has to be one of the best saxos. I remember it on the cyclones any more plans for it josh ?

Taz - long time no speak mate, cyclone phase seems a long time ago now lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugway92

not a fan of this colour but this car is mint!

Colour isn't everyone's cup of tea, I love it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_

I hope he plans on just enjoying it now tbh!!

Think there is a digi dash plan judging by some of his other posts on here!

Yeah few bits and bobs but nothing serious tbh
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#1567 27th October 2012, 15:36

I will order new set of pistons to my itb saxo , do you suggest 12.7 comp wossners
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#1568 27th October 2012, 15:44

it was a long time ago we wont mention the roundabout at the richo lol but it has come a long way
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#1569 28th October 2012, 04:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by nazmitocak

I will order new set of pistons to my itb saxo , do you suggest 12.7 comp wossners

I don't suggest wossners at all regardless of compression mate, the design is not great

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazmania_0345

it was a long time ago we wont mention the roundabout at the richo lol but it has come a long way

Haha good times!
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#1570 28th October 2012, 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugway92

not a fan of this colour but this car is mint!

The colour is the best bit! But I am a little bias

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#1571 28th October 2012, 10:48

Amazing preparation,grats.
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#1572 28th October 2012, 20:54

yea back when the wm meets were huge

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#1573 10th November 2012, 09:04

Cheers lads ^

My brother/dad are looking after it while I'm away

Sam was up there last night sweeping the leaves and shit out of the garage... I plan to put some rubber along the bottom of the garage door over christmas to stop the crap getting in. Good work chaps!

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#1574 10th November 2012, 22:07

Lol! Brotherly love

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#1575 16th December 2012, 17:33

This car is stunting i love the car as a whole,, mango and carbon is a very good look,, hopefully gonna try and get in touch with sandy brown for my own jp4 engine but wont be anywhere near this car there has been alot of hard work put into this saxo with great results bet you cant stop driving it

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#1576 17th December 2012, 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXJO5H0W3NXx-Neil

This car is stunting i love the car as a whole,, mango and carbon is a very good look,, hopefully gonna try and get in touch with sandy brown for my own jp4 engine but wont be anywhere near this car

there has been alot of hard work put into this saxo with great results bet you cant stop driving it

Thanks matey, appreciate the kind words

I actually spend most of the year living in Sydney (yes, down under!) so don't get to drive it too often. My dad looks after it while I'm away, turning it over etc regularly.

I fly back for Christmas on Wednesday, land in the Uk on Thursday so will be working on it all day Friday getting a few upgrades for 2012 on the way

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#1577 21st December 2012, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Thanks matey, appreciate the kind words

Sounds good bud i am looking to get an engine done by sandy brown but havent been able to get in contact with him nothing near yours but something for fast road use. Bet its great living down under, also where did you get the cage i am looking for a half cage welded in that looks like yours but cant find it anyway can you help.. But as always keep this updated best car on here

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#1578 21st December 2012, 18:46

Well i landed back in the UK yesterday evening, so naturally i was up the garage all of today playing with the car... lol

Beaniemoo aka Mike lended a hand today and we got a fair bit done...

First we started it up... Mike has a nice video of this which I'm sure he will upload later...

Next we set about stripping the full interior loom out of the whole car

Some epic munch!

And the finished full interior loom removed

More to come over Christmas while I'm back

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#1579 21st December 2012, 20:01

Get that heavy heater matrix out whilst the dash is out
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#1580 21st December 2012, 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGregg

Get that heavy heater matrix out whilst the dash is out

NO way mate, I drove my brothers to Llandow in March years ago without a heater matrix, scared me for life lol

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#1581 21st December 2012, 21:02

put a micro heater in instead (or just man up )
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#1582 21st December 2012, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGregg

put a micro heater in instead (or just man up )

Lol, nah I'd rather go 0.25seconds slower per lap tbh
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#1583 21st December 2012, 22:56

I had a brilliant day today, pulling to Saxo apart along with a good haul from the 'closed' chip shop!
Lovely car that sounded amazing!
I currently have a Clio boot full of Saxo wiring, it looks a bit scary at the moment, but all will become clear when its spread out in my living room lol.
I will make sure the interior loom is of a quality to make the car proud!
Video of car as previously promised

...Also REAL cars don't have heater or carpets

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#1584 22nd December 2012, 15:32

love this
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#1585 22nd December 2012, 15:33

what is it that takes you down under fella
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#1586 22nd December 2012, 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybvtr

what is it that takes you down under fella

I'm guessing a aeroplane?
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#1587 22nd December 2012, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bedford126

I'm guessing a aeroplane?

lol i was asking for that really.

i will ask again. whats your occupation
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#1588 22nd December 2012, 17:59

looks lovely.. nice car mate
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#1589 22nd December 2012, 22:04

Amazing car! The exhaust manifold and the engine at all are epic! Cheers JP!

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#1590 23rd December 2012, 18:49

You hooligan jp
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#1591 24th December 2012, 07:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybvtr

what is it that takes you down under fella

Mainly the weather, life style & the crazy money you can earn in oz + I love the V8supercars so that's definitely a bonus. Also my wife is currently finishing off her degree at Sydney Uni and has permanent residency over there, she's not so fond of the cold lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexysaxojames

looks lovely.. nice car mate

Appreciate it mate, thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by choko_h

Amazing car! The exhaust manifold and the engine at all are epic! Cheers JP!

Cheers buddy!!

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Originally Posted by scottie_436

You hooligan jp

Gotta be done mate

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I'm off up to the garage again today so will get some more snaps of the cars current state
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#1592 24th December 2012, 09:21

what is it you do for a occupation then over there. i would love to move out there a friend of minr i worked with now lives in perth and loves it
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#1593 24th December 2012, 09:46

Work for a company called "Telstra" - same as BT over here. Can't believe he likes Perth, it's like a Ghost town + thousands of miles from anywhere lol
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#1594 28th December 2012, 17:50

For more updates...

The car has been stored in my own little unit for the past 6months...

First job was to put the car back on axel stands

I then removed a few brackets from the engine bay that hadn't previously been powder coated as we ran out of time...

Engine bay as it currently stands with the brackets removed

The interior of the car is currently completely stripped and Beaniemoo will update with interior loom updates

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#1595 28th December 2012, 18:44

Good sized unit that is mate. Nice & tidy too.
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#1596 28th December 2012, 19:38

makes me remember when my unit was tidy lol
oops
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#1597 28th December 2012, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

makes me remember when my unit was tidy lol
oops

Lol tis difficult to keep tidy when it's an active garage. Constant battle keeping my own tidy now even though its just me using it
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#1598 29th December 2012, 10:34

Even harder when it's not your garage lol it's all about building our cars on our drives

Nice work Jp who dies your powder coating ?
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#1599 29th December 2012, 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

Lol tis difficult to keep tidy when it's an active garage. Constant battle keeping my own tidy now even though its just me using it

i gave up trying recently
its a case of just in work out mess is just left
tomorrow itll be a super mess
stripping most of the car :/
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#1600 29th December 2012, 11:46

I'd just like a unit... or garage. This car port leaks like a sieve! Looks really comfy tucked up in their though
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#1601 29th December 2012, 20:28

garage looks pimp now jp . especially with your car in there mate .

so my next question poses.. once beanies sorted your loom whats next?
no carpets and grip taped footwells?
more carbon fibre?
more power ?
slicks?
more suspension improvements?
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#1602 29th December 2012, 20:56

Lee you forgot bigger turbo
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#1603 29th December 2012, 23:57

hahaha.. josh will never turbo this! im pretty confident on that tbh

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#1604 30th December 2012, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

hahaha.. josh will never turbo this! im pretty confident on that tbh

He's driving mine at the ring this year - he just might change his mind when he scares himself stupid

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#1605 30th December 2012, 01:04

hahaha in that case ross he might just change his mind
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#1606 30th December 2012, 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

He's driving mine at the ring this year - he just might change his mind when he scares himself stupid

is the ring trip this year going to be a forum outing or not as im wanting to take my 106 this year
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#1607 30th December 2012, 12:45

Being anything you like (car wise) dude. Speak to josh - he has a Facebook group setup for our first trip of the year. I'll be in my 106 obviously but last year all sorts turned up - it's good to go as a group, regardless of what you're driving!
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#1608 30th December 2012, 17:14

I'll be trying to make it to the Ring trip nest year so long as I have a car of any kind! Rather looking forward to it!
Anyways, back on subject.
Thought this would be the easiest way of keeping you posted on how I'm getting on with the loom
I've had Josh's body wiring loom out of his car to simplify and tidy up.
Although I have already assesed the loom and ordered some supplies for the bulk of the work, which are yet to arrive. I got to spend some time on it today.
I started by pulling the interior fusebox apart so I could see how everything is connected inside.

Laid the loom out in the workshop, as it would be laid in the car

Then started from the rear of the car removing all wiring which is no longer used, like tailgate and rear speaker wiring, along with relocating the number plate light take off.

This is the wire removed so far

I'll be attacking this as soon as the parts arrive

Hope you like?
Not very interesting at the moment, but still progress

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#1609 30th December 2012, 17:21

Looks good mate
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#1610 30th December 2012, 18:03

How much weight is there to be lost in this?

Is it just to simplify things or is it being done with weight in mind too?
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#1611 30th December 2012, 18:06

I'd imagine with a nice plush interior still in it is purely a nice cosmetic and simplifying goal.
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#1612 30th December 2012, 18:19

fantastic work so far beanie
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#1613 6th January 2013, 17:27

A small update, now I've had pretty much all the parts arrive I can finally get on with more of the loom.
I've still decided to avoid the birds nest of wiring including the mini fuseboxes until in the week and my brothers about for a second pair of eyes.
Still managed to remove a lot more wiring like the standard immobiliser system and diagnostic plug.

Also properly relocated the window switch wiring to the colunm covers, where the switches are
(They had already been previously cut, thus the soldered connectors on some wires)

Next up removed the original Maxi fuesbox and replaced it with the new item which will be clipped to the new mini fusebox when its fitted and mounted into a custom bracket, but thats all still to come

Next up, just tidied things up a little so I could keep track of the shape of the loom, once done it will be properly taped up and tidied.

Was weighing up doing the loom entirely in heat shrink, but as this is using prdominately oe connectors, it'd be a lot of work to do, also it'll be safely under a carpet, so I think tape will be more than good enough.
Hope you're happy with the progress.
Just noticed I really need to tidy your radio wiring, what radio do you have?
As the loom, supplies and tools are now at home I'll be doing it in evenings in the week.
Still looking into the other things we discussed

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#1614 7th January 2013, 01:16

Looks fantastic so far Beanie,

I wonder how much weight we have lost already?!

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#1615 7th January 2013, 08:53

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Looks so far Fantastic Beanie,

I wonder how much weight we have lost already?!

I pulled out 11kgs of loom when we went omex and redid the fuse boxes. There's mega amounts of weight to be shed in wiring.

Good work Beanie.

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#1616 7th January 2013, 09:32

I've already removed a certain amount of wiring Ross, but if we can get anywhere close to a 5kg saving that would be awesome

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#1617 7th January 2013, 14:21

Whats next after this?

#1618 7th January 2013, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

Lol tis difficult to keep tidy when it's an active garage. Constant battle keeping my own tidy now even though its just me using it

Agreed Willsy, I find the best way to keep it tidy is to make sure I spend 5-10 minutes sweeping up & tidying up after each session I spend working on it, so that way everytime I leave the unit its nice and tidy for the next time that I go to work on it

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

Even harder when it's not your garage lol it's all about building our cars on our drives

Nice work Jp who dies your powder coating ?

Haha true Tom - I think Ive done enough of that building it on the drive jobbie lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

I'd just like a unit... or garage. This car port leaks like a sieve! Looks really comfy tucked up in their though

Its a really nice place to be / work now. Even over christmas / new year I just shut the door and put the little heater on and it keeps it nice and warm in there

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

garage looks pimp now jp

. especially with your car in there mate

.

so my next question poses.. once beanies sorted your loom whats next?
no carpets and grip taped footwells?
more carbon fibre?
more power

?
slicks?
more suspension improvements?

Yep the garage is an awesome place to store my cars & work on them, knowing its dry and out of the frost over the winter is so much better than storing it outside

Well for this year the improvements are;

-Tidying up the interior loom
-Fitting a more friendly clutch
-Housing & fitting the SPA dials

In the short term (next year or so) further improvements will be to get Matt Newton to tidy up and open up the scuttle area to allow more air to easily enter the throttle bodies. Potentially more weight saving bits and bobs here and there to hopefully get me to the magic 800kgs with half a tank of fuel. Also I may have to look at upgrading the MA box to a BE box & BE shafts should be MA box give up the ghost. My current MA box has been cygenically strengthened so im hoping that helps it last a bit longer but im wise enough to know we are really pushing the boundaries of the box so we will see how we go... its covered over 1,000 miles so far with no issues

In the long term (over a year) id be potentially looking to widetrack it with a Colin Satchell kit & looking at getting more weight off the chassis again

Carpet & other comfort bits will stay, seeing as its not a full out race car its essential for me to keep some creature comforts so the cars enjoyable to jump into on a nice summer day and enjoy driving

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

Lee you forgot bigger turbo

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

hahaha.. josh will never turbo this! im pretty confident on that tbh

You can be 100% sure I will not boost this car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

He's driving mine at the ring this year - he just might change his mind when he scares himself stupid

Scare myself Stupid - yes
Change my mind - no

Ive been out in Chris's 106 monster turbo and as much as it was properly mentally quick.... i still love the NA power delivery - espeically in this engine

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybvtr

is the ring trip this year going to be a forum outing or not as im wanting to take my 106 this year

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

Being anything you like (car wise) dude. Speak to josh - he has a Facebook group setup for our first trip of the year. I'll be in my 106 obviously but last year all sorts turned up - it's good to go as a group, regardless of what you're driving!

As Ross says, drop me a PM with your facebook details and ill add you to our group. Alot of people that come with us arent regulars on sax-p anymore so its easier to organise it on facebook, anyone on the forum is more than welcome to come on our trip - I love introducing new people to our group - it keeps things fresh in the group.

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

How much weight is there to be lost in this?

Is it just to simplify things or is it being done with weight in mind too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

I'd imagine with a nice plush interior still in it is purely a nice cosmetic and simplifying goal.

Both Joe. The main aim of this was to tidy up the whole interior loom so that I know the wiring throughout the car is perfect, and obviously saving a few kg is always nice - although if its anywhere near the 11kg that Ross saved that would be VERY nice

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Whats next after this?

See above in response to Lea^

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#1619 7th January 2013, 22:42

love the future plans especially the mention of widetrack and colin satchell thats gunna be awesome.

the freeze treatment on the internals of your box should definately help with the boxes life expectancy mate 100%.

i cant wait to see beanies finished product on the loom too . i also understand the need for your creature comforts too man. your a fairy boy and you must keep your wings .

if you shed your fairy wings... 800kg would be a few kg closer .

all in all i have alot of love for this car. its a genuine home build that does get used and abused therefore i have far more appreciation for it. plus iv got to help along the way

#1620 9th January 2013, 01:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

love the future plans especially the mention of widetrack and colin satchell thats gunna be awesome.

the freeze treatment on the internals of your box should definately help with the boxes life expectancy mate 100%.

i cant wait to see beanies finished product on the loom too

. i also understand the need for your creature comforts too man. your a fairy boy and you must keep your wings

.

if you shed your fairy wings... 800kg would be a few kg closer

.

all in all i have alot of love for this car. its a genuine home build that does get used and abused therefore i have far more appreciation for it. plus iv got to help along the way

Cheers mate

Widetrack is a bit of a dream right now but let's see how things go over the next year, I need to get it done before the mrs finishes Uni because she will be wanting to buy a house, and then it might be more difficult to treat the Saxo to new goodies lol

Removing the carpet would save what 5kg? I'd much rather have the comfort of the carpet and find somewhere else to save 5kg instead tbh mate

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#1621 9th January 2013, 05:24

i bet you wouldnt even notice the carpet was gone though.....
its not like theres any other comforts or sound deadening lol all it does is stop the floor being slippery
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#1622 9th January 2013, 05:26

Keeps it warm and makes a huge difference to comfort levels IMO Alex
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#1623 9th January 2013, 21:29

Josh i look forward to your updates this car just gets better and better

#1624 9th January 2013, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

My current MA box has been cygenically strengthened so im hoping that helps it last a bit longer but im wise enough to know we are really pushing the boundaries of the box so we will see how we go... its covered over 1,000 miles so far with no issues

What gear oil are you using in this box mate?

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#1625 11th January 2013, 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazmania_0345

Josh i look forward to your updates this car just gets better and better

Cheers Taz, good to see that your still checking back on this thread every now and again

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyno

What gear oil are you using in this box mate?

I think it's the fusch one - cant remember exactly, it was expensive and is the one we normally use in our box's. PM me and ill get my dad or brother to get a picture for you
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#1626 11th January 2013, 19:21

I have recently bought some decent oil for mine, something from Amsoil. I just wanted reassuring that you were using some quality oil with your set up

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#1627 11th January 2013, 20:32

When your next at a meet i will have to come down or i might finaly one day go on a ring trip
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#1628 12th January 2013, 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyno

I have recently bought some decent oil for mine, something from Amsoil. I just wanted reassuring that you were using some quality oil with your set up

Yep yep, tbh I try never to cut corners with this car, it's just not worth it and comes to bite you in the bum if you do

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Originally Posted by tazmania_0345

When your next at a meet i will have to come down or i might finaly one day go on a ring trip

I live in Sydney (yes the one with the Opera house and famous harbour down under lol) most of the year now so don't get to go to many meets unfortunately Taz. I'm back for all of July this year so will be at French car show - which has just been announced that it is at castle coombe this year!
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#1629 13th January 2013, 14:23

this car and thread is fucking epic! just awesome!!!

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#1630 14th January 2013, 21:44

Hello JP! As promised an update and a few pictures of the loom and how it is coming along!
I have managed to completely remove the birds nest of wiring over on the n/s of the dash, also finished relocating most of the fuses into the new fusebox.
As you can see from the pictures the loom is looking vastly better!

The fusebox looking rather complete

The n/s dash, through panel area looking much tidier

And how the complete loom is looking, and how my living room is looking lol

Left to do is:

Completely wire in the front fog light system (this the missing fuse in the box)
Put some earths on the front lights
Convert the dash loom
Modify/make bracket to mount new fusebox in

Getting there, making nice progress
Hope you like?

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#1631 14th January 2013, 22:04

Looks brilliant mate
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#1632 15th January 2013, 07:49

That looks very good, also on my list to do. Not attempting it myself though.
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#1633 15th January 2013, 12:44

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Originally Posted by MR_N

That looks very good, also on my list to do. Not attempting it myself though.

Agreed mate, it's way too complicated for me tbh, beanie's done a cracking job of tidying it all up and minimalising it as well

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#1634 22nd January 2013, 22:24

Hello Josh! Back again with a nice update!
The body loom is now pretty much complete!

Tail section of loom all taped up and looking tidy

Fusebox with fog light relay fitted

Front section of loom all taped up
Red wire is battery feed, but I don't know the length at the moment

Dash area of loom

Fusebox area

Close up of taping

All whilst withstand a prelonged attack from Notdog

All thats left now is to do the dash switch and dial loom
Put a feed to the fog light fuse (JUST remembered I haven't put this in)
Replace or tidy radio wiring

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#1635 22nd January 2013, 22:57

Fantastic

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#1636 22nd January 2013, 22:58

My god that's a lot of work!!

Looking good though

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#1637 22nd January 2013, 23:24

You've done a cracking job Beanie, looks as fresh (if not fresher) than OEM! Will be a real asset to the car when it's all in and working

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#1638 23rd January 2013, 17:02

Looking good man. I love neat wiring. Just ashame i cant understand all the complex stuff.........yet lol.
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#1639 24th January 2013, 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

My god that's a lot of work!!

Looking good though

It definitely is, once you get stuck into a loom it really does take a long time to organise it all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJN

You've done a cracking job Beanie, looks as fresh (if not fresher) than OEM! Will be a real asset to the car when it's all in and working

True - although beanie made a great point - he's making this and then Beanie/sam/dad are fitting it back in with the dash etc so I wont actualy get to see his handy work as most of it will be covered behind the dash / wing / carpet lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by crisppug

Looking good man. I love neat wiring. Just ashame i cant understand all the complex stuff.........yet lol.

hahaha im with you there Chris!! WAY too complicated for me mate

#1640 24th January 2013, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Yeah your current struts should be fine Toad mate!

Right another update for you - Firstly a VERY special mention to DannyGti for going to collect these for me

I think you'll agree they look awesome - I cant wait to try them out!!

These seats are the dogs!

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#1641 25th January 2013, 06:28

Nice work Josh the car looks great this will really tidy the interior up!

carbon doors next? LOL

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#1642 25th January 2013, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxoashlaughton

These seats are the dogs!

Cheers mate, seems a long time since Danny got those for me

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

Nice work Josh the car looks great this will really tidy the interior up!

carbon doors next? LOL

Thank Beaniemoo for the loom work, hes done an ace job so far

Next? Carbon doors would be nice but at £1k a pop I think i'll pass lol

Probably BE box / shafts next winter to improve reliability and see what else I can afford
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#1643 25th January 2013, 13:49

1 word.......Dogbox. Thats the only thing this car needs to be complete!!!

Oh and carpet removal but ive given up with you on that

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#1644 27th January 2013, 16:30

fantastic work beanie your wiring skills and anal-ness is just amazing!!

Matt im glad im not the only one whos given up on josh about removing his carpet...

Oh noes ill be so cold if i remove my carpet because im so used to australias drought worthy heat.... man up jp, you only ever drive this car in anger on track or to the ring lol never to the shops a little bit of carpet wont change a thing just buy some grip tape and your winning.

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#1645 28th January 2013, 03:13

I thought you said you'd given up Lea?!!
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#1646 28th January 2013, 08:44

i have now lols that was my final speech

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#1647 28th January 2013, 09:14

This is mint mate !!
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#1648 29th January 2013, 12:39

Has this got polycarb windows yet? Surely thats a to do at least in the back?
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#1649 30th January 2013, 10:56

Just the rear screen is polycarb Joe, no plans to have any more polycarb windows
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#1650 30th January 2013, 11:44

I'm not really a fan of plastic side windows, slight weight saving yes, but slight and the loss of comfort/convenience, even on a competition car, is barely worth it.

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#1651 30th January 2013, 20:25

Ah didnt realise. Thats what i would do too. Sides are a bit extreme.
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#1652 30th January 2013, 22:19

door poly windows are a pain in the arse when it comes to toll roads/car park gates and make the car like a green house

plus not legal on the road in the UK
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#1653 30th January 2013, 22:34

cant even begin to imagine how annoying having a catflap on the front side windows must feel!
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#1654 30th January 2013, 22:37

How do you get the food through at the drive-thru?
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#1655 30th January 2013, 22:39

Must need a bigger hole cutting in
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#1656 31st January 2013, 09:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

How do you get the food through at the drive-thru?

Open the door lol

While this has been bumped... my dad has made a new battery holder for the lithium ION battery as the old one me and Sam knocked up was a bit rushed and tatty tbh

Just got to add holes to keep the battery cool and then get it powdercoated
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#1657 31st January 2013, 09:37

decent progress on this
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#1658 31st January 2013, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by zackruncie

decent progress on this

83 pages of awesome-ness. And you say it is decent progress?!?
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#1659 31st January 2013, 21:37

Lol^

Proper job! Now for shot blasting & then to the powdercoating place
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#1660 31st January 2013, 22:13

Hi Josh!
Right your body loom is complete now, just need to modify the bracket the fusebox mounts to, to accept the new fuesbox.
So this meant that I can get on with the dash loom, converting it to run the new Spa dash.
I had already pinned out the old dials over last night so the conversion tonight didn't take too long.
This is how your dash loom is currently looking

The untaped set of wires are ones for lights and dials that aren't used in the Spa but you may still want, like front and rear fog light warning lights.
The speedo, oil pressure and fuel pressure wires are already insulated with a plug connectors so it may be worth getting the sensors and mounting them before we set about trying to modify the loom to fit.
Hope you like?
Just need to mount your dials into the dash then we can arrange fitting the loom, to finish it off

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#1661 1st February 2013, 09:31

That looks pretty Damn good for a bunch of wires! Can't wait to see what it looks like all mounted up.

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#1662 1st February 2013, 09:43

Looks ace Mr Bean!

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#1663 1st February 2013, 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweeqd

door poly windows are a pain in the arse when it comes to toll roads/car park gates and make the car like a green house

plus not legal on the road in the UK

Is that a recent thing? As i was under the impression it was just the windscreen that had to be glass for the road.
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#1664 1st February 2013, 10:15

fantastic work beanie!!
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#1665 1st February 2013, 10:45

Looks epic Beanie
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#1666 1st February 2013, 19:10

Thank you for all the comments.
Its always nice to hear people appreciating the work that goes into every part of these cars
Anyways, one more update, after a discussion with Josh via text at about midnight for him, this is pretty much how the loom will go in.
The spare, untaped wires by the Spa plug are for the front and rear fog warning lights and an earth as they are needed, but there is no provision for these lights in the spa, other than that its all done.

Just waiting on the carbon to mount the Spa into
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#1667 1st February 2013, 21:57

They are MOT Legal, but not technically road legal.

If you car is first used on or after 1/4/1985, it must have a specified safety glass (1980)glass complying with, and marked in accordance with either: BS 857:1967 as amended by Amendment Slips 1, 2, 3 and 4, or
BS AU 178:1980,
UN/ECE Regulation 43., for the Front Windows, including the windscreen. The rear windows can be Pplycarbonate, or Lexian, or any material which if fractured will not fly into sharp fragments likely to cause severe cuts if broken.

The exceptions are Police or security vehcles, and plant/farm vehices.

Ive had mine in for a few years now and never been pulled up on it
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#1668 10th February 2013, 18:23

Right, we've been finishing off the last few bits and bobs on this job so we're ready to arrange getting the lot fitted into the car.
First thing was to modify the interior fusebox holder to mount the new fisebox into

Next up was the rather more exciting job of mounting the Spa into the standard instrument cluster.
First we cut the original cluster away and made a piece of carbon to insert

Then made a cut out in the carbon for the Spa

After that, once happy with everything we glued the carbon in and peeled off the tape.
We've still got the original 'glass' to fit once the glue is fully dried and the Spa is properly mounted, but I think you'll all agree if looks amazing.

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#1669 10th February 2013, 19:10

Looking good :-)

I left the glass off mine and fitted the red button on the left of the spa

Si
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#1670 10th February 2013, 19:17

Looks great the dash design lends itself very well to spa dials

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#1671 11th February 2013, 09:35

WOW guys that is absolutely sexy, really pleased

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

Looks great the dash design lends itself very well to spa dials

That was my initial thinking Tom, very please how it looks in there, *almost* looks OE

Quote:

Originally Posted by toger13

Looking good :-)

I left the glass off mine and fitted the red button on the left of the spa

Si

I think the plan is to house mine in the centre console part of the dash where the blank buttons are

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#1672 11th February 2013, 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

Looks great the dash design lends itself very well to spa dials

I prefer the triangular stack in there tbh
lol had to be done josh sorry
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#1673 11th February 2013, 09:43

progress is superb beaniesport no doubt josh will be really impressed with the quality of your work

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#1674 11th February 2013, 10:37

Wow amazing!

Most importantly however.

Does it beep when its time to change up
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#1675 11th February 2013, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Wow amazing!

Most importantly however.

Does it beep when its time to change up

Most annoying thing ever...

Jp has a shift light fitted allredy iirc
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#1676 11th February 2013, 11:46

Yep already got a shift light fitted,

Plus tbh if you listen to the engine / feel to the acceleration you know (as near as is really needed) when you should change gear anyway, plus with this engine it's got such good midrange I really don't need to rev towards the very top end to go quick

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#1677 11th February 2013, 11:48

Ah cool. A musg have imo for a high revver
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#1678 11th February 2013, 12:09

The dials look amazing.
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#1679 11th February 2013, 12:17

I've programmed mine to change colour from blue to red when it's time to change gear.
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#1680 11th February 2013, 12:24

Yep mines programmed to do that too Danny

Edit: like this

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#1681 11th February 2013, 12:26

Yesterday's photos don't work for me :/
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#1682 11th February 2013, 13:19

Here you go Chris;

Modified fuse box bracket (in behind the dash near the glove box) to house the one single fuse box that the car now has

SPA dial fitting into the standard dial binnacle with CF backing plate
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#1683 11th February 2013, 13:20

cheers, looks awesome!
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#1684 11th February 2013, 14:59

Dials look awesome... The car just keeps getting better and better. Just needs a Sequential box now ;D

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#1685 11th February 2013, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJN

Dials look awesome... The car just keeps getting better and better. Just needs a Sequential box now ;D

at 14k i doubt jp will throw that kinda money at shit..

would be epic though
its top of my lottery win list for mine lmao sadev 6 speed please

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#1686 11th February 2013, 20:47

Hay hay hay!
We're back again, with the dials fully mounted and completed.

The Spa didn't seem to come with any mounts with it so we made had to make our own bracket to hold it onto the carbon backing.
Which we're rather proud of

And the standard glass is now fitted to the dials again

I think you'll all agree that it looks amazing!
Now we need to arrange going to meet up with Sam and Joshs dad to fit the looms and everything.

Very exciting

Hope you like

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#1687 11th February 2013, 20:53

love the car mate
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#1688 12th February 2013, 11:25

Super job beanie, custom brackets look awesome
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#1689 12th February 2013, 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Super job beanie, custom brackets look awesome

very much agreed!!

you lads put in an epic job

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#1690 15th February 2013, 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

very much agreed!!

you lads put in an epic job

Yep agreed Lea
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#1691 15th February 2013, 17:14

Magnificent car Josh... wish we have just one such a car here, in Czech Republic...

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#1692 17th February 2013, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by radeklayer

Magnificent car Josh... wish we have just one such a car here, in Czech Republic...

Thanks mate, kind words

Maybe some of you guys should come over to the UK for French car show in July?
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#1693 17th February 2013, 05:52

Just spent the last hour and a half looking at this, Sandy did an amazing job on the engine. Beanie once again did his magic on the wiring.

Saying I'm jealous doesn't even come close.

Awesome car there mate
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#1694 17th February 2013, 07:30

Really great job with the loom and SPA, I need's me one of them!

#1695 18th February 2013, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

Really great job with the loom and SPA, I need's me one of them!

Cheers mate, go to the bank and get a loan they 'ain't cheap lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevie_m

Just spent the last hour and a half looking at this, Sandy did an amazing job on the engine. Beanie once again did his magic on the wiring.

Saying I'm jealous doesn't even come close.

Awesome car there mate

Cheers buddy, it took alot of my spare time last year to build & pay for, but now it's all built and its just finishing touches here and there I'm really pleased with the outcome tbh

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#1696 23rd February 2013, 19:45

Back with another update!
Got up at 7 this morning to be presented by a slightly snowy Metro (really feeling for Josh out in Australia at the moment), and headed off to Leicester to fit the loom back into Josh's Saxo

Arrived at the garage, moved out the 106 and was presented with this

Set about fitting the loom

Looking very much tider!
Next up I got the dash in, and set about building it up.
Around this time Alex, Lee and Sam turned up, sorry if I was a bit quiet, I hadn't really eaten all day and was running very low on energy.

Anyways, connected the battery up and did some tests and everything that should work was working, apart from having the window switches in the wrong way round, then blew the fuse when swapping the plugs over!?!?

That aside, its all looking great

Was going to pop back tomorrow to finish off a few things as I'd forgotten a few wiring clips and plug connectors, but owing to a massive tidy up at my house because an inpending house inspection I apear to have lost his power steering wiring loom, so I'll have to find that or source one before I can finish it off, but its all looking promicing and will be finished very soon

Moo
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#1697 23rd February 2013, 19:49

Dude, that looks amazing!!!!!!!!!!! Well done!
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#1698 23rd February 2013, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaniemoo

Arrived at the garage, moved out the 106 and was presented with this

The Mango, yay!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaniemoo

Set about fitting the loom

The combined fusebox looks SO smart and tidy now mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaniemoo

If you zoom into the dials I love how you can see the carbon weave around the dials and in the background you can see the carbon weave from the bonnet haha

Very very pleased, love the combined fuse box, much tidier! Dials look very smart in there too!

Looks like you, Dad, Sam, Alex & Lea had good fun up at the garage today wish I was there to be mucking in!!!
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#1699 24th February 2013, 08:19

Looks a great job! The new display looks spot on in your car josh! Looks right at home there.
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#1700 24th February 2013, 08:31

that looks sweet mate well done and i want your dials lol
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#1701 24th February 2013, 09:14

Great Job there! SPA Dash for mine it is then.
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#1702 24th February 2013, 09:31

Does the dash run off all the standard engine sensors?
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#1703 24th February 2013, 09:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy_K

Does the dash run off all the standard engine sensors?

No it's a stand alone dash, you do however wire the standard instrument lights etc to the spa dash. The only ball ache is the fuel tank level sensor

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#1704 24th February 2013, 11:36

Is it not can/serial to the ecu? I always thought it was.
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#1705 24th February 2013, 11:39

Its not CAN setup, it's pretty normal but it works and easy to install.
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#1706 24th February 2013, 19:36

Looks brilliant mate! Cant wait to see/hear it on the nurburg trip
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#1707 25th February 2013, 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

Great Job there! SPA Dash for mine it is then.

You gonna get it digital dash then? What does your engine rev too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by P33_CHM

Looks brilliant mate! Cant wait to see/hear it on the nurburg trip

Cheers mate, we will have good fun on the way to the ring down the autobahn

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Looks a great job! The new display looks spot on in your car josh! Looks right at home there.

Thanks Andy, I agree it definitely suits the car, I'm really pleased with the outcome and my choice of the SPA

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumac77

that looks sweet mate well done and i want your dials lol

Haha, I got them from Htec-elite at a decent price!

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#1708 25th February 2013, 20:41

Yeah want one when i get the interior loom done. Revs too 8300 at the moment. Will rev a tad higher with the bottom end work.
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#1709 26th February 2013, 07:45

car looks great josh really like the dash and interior now!

how many laps this year will it be at the ring?.
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#1710 26th February 2013, 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

car looks great josh really like the dash and interior now!

how many laps this year will it be at the ring?.

Cheers Tom, I'm really pleased with the outcome

We've got lucky with the opening times, Friday evening, all day Sat + Sun 8am - 7pm it's open, as long as the weathers decent there's no reason why a minimum of 20 across sat+sun, and hopefully get a few in on Friday evening too

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

Yeah want one when i get the interior loom done. Revs too 8300 at the moment. Will rev a tad higher with the bottom end work.

Ah right cool, I like analogue dials so the SPA was the obvious choice for me, plus not having to add Extra buttons and lights etc to get it road legal! Where does it make peak power?
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#1711 26th February 2013, 15:20

157bhp was its last dyno figure. But runs a thicker head gasket now so unsure till its in.
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#1712 26th February 2013, 17:41

Hi josh I'm loving your sax that engine is epic and the mani is a monster lol

Hope to see you down at beaniesport some time
Proper nice work moo did on those looms

#1713 27th February 2013, 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

157bhp was its last dyno figure. But runs a thicker head gasket now so unsure till its in.

That's not what I asked

where does it make peak power? At what revs?

Why a thicker head gasket now?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary2707

Hi josh I'm loving your sax that engine is epic and the mani is a monster lol

Hope to see you down at beaniesport some time

Proper nice work moo did on those looms

Thanks Gary. Sandy did a great job with the engine & Mike Edwards designed + built the manifold to Sandys spec.

You know the Beaniesport duo do you? I'll probably pop down to there workshop in July when I'm back in the UK. Moo definitely did a cracking job on the loom, very tidy and a proper job

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#1714 27th February 2013, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

That's not what I asked where does it make peak power? At what revs?

Why a thicker head gasket now?

Ever so sorry ....

When Sonny had it he put a thicker head gasket it, i'll have to ask him to comment on why.

According to Sonny's old thread it made peak power at 7300rpm.
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#1715 27th February 2013, 09:44

peak power 130 atw @ 7300rpm but made good power all the way past 8000rpm.
I wished i could've gone hi comp & forged and revved the fucker harder!

The thicker headgasket was a mistake tbh. i didn't realise i used a thinner one when i originally put the engine together, then when i replaced the valves with some sexy ones, i uninetensionally used a thicker gasket.

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#1716 27th February 2013, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

That's not what I asked

where does it make peak power? At what revs?

Why a thicker head gasket now?

Thanks Gary. Sandy did a great job with the engine & Mike Edwards designed + built the manifold to Sandys spec.

You know the Beaniesport duo do you? I'll probably pop down to there workshop in July when I'm back in the UK. Moo definitely did a cracking job on the loom, very tidy and a proper job

Yh known them for a while now they built me a loom. I'm now virtually building a hole car with them

down there next week fitting a roll cage

Check out my progress thread if your interested, it's not much yet but hopefully one day... http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...=1#post6248252

#1717 2nd March 2013, 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

Ever so sorry ....

When Sonny had it he put a thicker head gasket it, i'll have to ask him to comment on why.

According to Sonny's old thread it made peak power at 7300rpm.

Will be interesting to see what difference the lower compression has made to peak power / torque....

Quote:

Originally Posted by sje00

peak power 130 atw @ 7300rpm but made good power all the way past 8000rpm.
I wished i could've gone hi comp & forged and revved the fucker harder!

The thicker headgasket was a mistake tbh. i didn't realise i used a thinner one when i originally put the engine together, then when i replaced the valves with some sexy ones, i uninetensionally used a thicker gasket.

Wooooops! Decent power for an 8v! How much thicker are we talking? How did you come to realise it was thicker - if at the time of fitting why didnt you just get it replaced for the same thickness as before?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary2707

Yh known them for a while now they built me a loom. I'm now virtually building a hole car with them

down there next week fitting a roll cage

Check out my progress thread if your interested, it's not much yet but hopefully one day... http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...=1#post6248252

Had a look at your thread mate, doing a proper job on it I see - Love it

What spec engine you dropping into it?

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Small update on this - Beanie is poping up to finish the interior loom off this weekend so thats another thing ticked off the list for this winter

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#1718 2nd March 2013, 10:57

I just didn't realise until I'd built it all up. It went on the dyno and it lost 4-5whp.
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#1719 2nd March 2013, 11:51

looking very smart mate, think if i had kept mine would of ended up this way, only the best goes for this. so easy to spend money when working away i know

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#1720 2nd March 2013, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yates

looking very smart mate, think if i had kept mine would of ended up this way, only the best goes for this. so easy to spend money when working away i know

Haha I think you, Danny & I know all about that lol. It sounds stupid but regardless if im away or not my car is still my toy, my hobby, its what motivates me to get up in the morning, stay an hour hour or 2 extra at night to earn the extra cash, which i can then justify treating myself to something trick over the winter each year

Tbh I'm at the stage now where I only get 1 or 2 bits per winter & I make sure they are good quality bits
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#1721 2nd March 2013, 17:24

Im glad the lancer register is restricted at work, plus I can't view ads when home as not a paid member, its saving me alot of money! I dont get overtime so don't matter what hours I do, but I do get about 23 quid a day extra for being at sea, so that helps! Not going to be making any changes to mine for a while.
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#1722 3rd March 2013, 21:38

Hello there!
Went up to Leicester today to finish off fitting of the loom into Joshs car.
Thought I'd start off with a picture of the new fusebox with the dash in place

Next up made sure all the wiring was correctly rounted

Then, in with the controversial, heavy carpet

I then fitted the wiring clips to the exposed rear sections of the wiring

Then the obligatory picture of Joshs car

After a lot of thought from myself, I couldn't bring myself to route the feed from the battery where I had initially planned to as it just wasn't going to look very nice, also I wasn't happy with where I had put the earth (all problems caused by not having the car itself when building the loom)
So after some 11th hour adjustments to the loom, it's now finally in and pretty much all working.

Josh's dad had his battery tray but you get the idea

Unfortunately flat bettery prevented me from starting it up, but the fuel pump is priming

Did manage to get a couple of videos of the Spa being alive

Only issue I found of the whole wiring loom is the fog light wiring plug wasn't the one that I thought it would be, so ended up in a female female situation, So I'll arrange getting a plug and your dad said he'd happily fit it for you to save me a journey

Cheers for looking

Moo

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#1723 3rd March 2013, 21:49

Cooorrrrrr... Now that's pretty fecking cool!!

Good work Moo!
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#1724 4th March 2013, 10:50

AWESOME Beanie

Did anyone notice the custom greeting I had programmed into the dash on the first video?!!

Having the 3 original fuseboxes combined into one nice aftermarket fusebox fit in the OE place is so tidy, easy to get to as well!

Also cheers for poping the "controversial carpet" back in mate lol
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#1725 4th March 2013, 18:46

Coming along nicely.

Not so keen on the taped loom though, Convoluted tubing looks much neater and plenty of different fittings to choose from not overly expensive either.

The loom was the longest part of my build, looks 100 times better than factory though.
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#1726 4th March 2013, 20:01

More progress on the loom is looking awesome fair play beanie! things here are looking fantastic!!

#1727 4th March 2013, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drago

Coming along nicely.

Not so keen on the taped loom though, Convoluted tubing looks much neater and plenty of different fittings to choose from not overly expensive either.

The loom was the longest part of my build, looks 100 times better than factory though.

We could have done the loom in the tubing, but as the loom is safely under a carpet and also, I like the idea of trying to make it look as factory standard as possible. So decided to stick to taping it.

Josh I like your welcome on your dash, does look smart, the was the whole idea of making that video to show you. Though not sure if perhaps a Knightrider style, 'Hello how are we?' might have been better lol.

Will post up your fuse designations up when I get a second. you can note them down, and its handy to have them online as you'll always have access to them as long as you have 3g reception on your phone.

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#1728 4th March 2013, 23:56

Carpet needed to burn not be refitted........

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#1729 5th March 2013, 03:17

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Originally Posted by Drago

Yeah it's basically taken 2months to do the whole thing, its amazing how long these bits and bobs take & i dont think people really appreciate it until theyve done it thereselves. Obviously beanie has just been doing his normal job and doing this job in the evenings inbetween many other things

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

More progress on the loom is looking awesome fair play beanie! things here are looking fantastic!!

Agreed Lee he's done a cracking job. Now time to get the clutch & wheels sorted and all back together for the summer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaniemoo

Cheers moo - ill save the fuse diagram info to my phone so I've always got access to it should I need it, I'll print it out and keep it in the glove box too

That greeting would have been funny but glad you like the greeting, it's come out nice - I'm happy with that

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Originally Posted by AlexB

Carpet needed to burn not be refitted........

Haha I knew we would get a comment about the carpet lol

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#1730 5th March 2013, 05:53

Cant believe I havent commented on this thread earlier. I had a good look around the car at Bolton Abbey a couple of years back, Will you be in the country this year? Awesome update with the loom im guessing you cant wait to get it on the road when you fly over.

Also whats the red string for that goes from the rollcage to what I presume is the boot? If it so you can close it from the inside?
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#1731 5th March 2013, 07:14

Why the change of the clutch? Is it too much for the road.

I would love to have a race dash for mine, they look awesome.

#1732 5th March 2013, 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam

Cant believe I havent commented on this thread earlier. I had a good look around the car at Bolton Abbey a couple of years back, Will you be in the country this year? Awesome update with the loom im guessing you cant wait to get it on the road when you fly over.

Also whats the red string for that goes from the rollcage to what I presume is the boot? If it so you can close it from the inside?

Wow! Yeah a lot has changed since a couple of years ago mate, not least the main part of the car - the engine

Yeah I'll be back for about 5 weeks in total from the very end of June (just in time for the silver stone f1

) until the end of July. Got the ring trip planned and also a couple of track days + maybe a few days in Scotland or Wales if the weathers decent!

Yeah I can't wait to get back and enjoy the new engine as I only just finished it before having to fly back to oz last year, had a quick 20min "shakedown" on track @ trax to make sure everything was working as it should be

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Why the change of the clutch? Is it too much for the road.

I would love to have a race dash for mine, they look awesome.

Main reason is that they supplied us with the wrong one, but by the time the engine was ready I didn't have the "couple of weeks" they wanted to change it. So this year hopefully they can supply the correct one and it will be much easier to drive on the road and not so 'on or off' if that makes sense?

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#1733 5th March 2013, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Wow! Yeah a lot has changed since a couple of years ago mate, not least the main part of the car - the engine

Your thread is bookmarked at work and I've been watching it for a while, that engine is work of art Enjoy

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#1734 5th March 2013, 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam

Your thread is bookmarked at work and I've been watching it for a while, that engine is work of art Enjoy

Very kind words mate

Credit Sandy for the engine, Mark for sorting the chassis, Beaniesport for the loom and Sam+Dad & Me for doing all the trick bits & putting it altogether - let alone funding it all lol. But it's my hobby and helps me get up the morning!

With the V8supercars starting the weekend just gone and the F1 on in melbourne next weekend I've been watching a few of my videos to get the enthusiasm going again

8:55 BTG ring lap with old 160bhp engine

http://youtu.be/7o_b1ROiIB8

&

Silverstone Trax having some fun with the new engine (skip the first 4mins of video as they are just installation laps)

http://youtu.be/TWdKnZdMLEw

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#1735 5th March 2013, 11:18

Lovely work here, do like that fuse box getting back together now. What else is there to do josh?
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#1736 5th March 2013, 11:33

Cheers for those videos, enjoy the ring trip this year. Me and Alanapone are hoping to join the group next year
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#1737 6th March 2013, 12:32

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Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Lovely work here, do like that fuse box getting back together now. What else is there to do josh?

Blimey now your asking mate

List is:-

Re-fit non-locking aerocatches
Replace clutch
Change power steering plug on loom
Check power steering working
Fit new SPA engine sensors for dials (Water & oil temp + Oil & fuel pressure)
Powdercoat a couple of other brackets & New wheels
Swap over road tyres to new set of road wheels

Once Im back in the UK I need to iron out any niggles, get the tracking / camber properly set up + adjust the brake bias.... and ENJOY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam

Cheers for those videos, enjoy the ring trip this year. Me and Alanapone are hoping to join the group next year

Cheers mate, yep we should be there doing it all again next year mate!!
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#1738 6th March 2013, 19:29

Way too posh for me but i do like it.
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#1739 6th March 2013, 19:38

Wont let me view vids whats it say

This thing is just so so so clean i have never wanted another car so bad!

If for any reason you ever need to sell which i hope not name your price ill get a loan lol,

Looms shweeet!
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#1740 6th March 2013, 19:47

Well DEFFO be their next year Sam!!

Video looks good mate. Can't wait to see it out again.

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#1741 7th March 2013, 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexy_gt

Way too posh for me but i do like it.

haha, flash but also functional

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG

Wont let me view vids whats it say

This thing is just so so so clean i have never wanted another car so bad!

If for any reason you ever need to sell which i hope not name your price ill get a loan lol,

Looms shweeet!

Video's you can only watch on a computer mate (certainly not on an iphone anyway!)

I cant see me selling it for a long time yet... if ever. Theres plans in the future to take it even further but ill be happy with its current spec for at least the next few years to come!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

Well DEFFO be their next year Sam!!

Video looks good mate. Can't wait to see it out again.

YES boys! Thats what im talking about - ring will be epic!!

It will be out and about for July, hopefully get to a few club meets + FCS of course

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Dads finished off the new battery holder and catch tank bracket, alot neater

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#1742 7th March 2013, 11:17

Regarding fitting your walbro josh, what did you do fit it fitting into oe casing as its abit smaller and the bottom filter?
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#1743 7th March 2013, 11:29

It was a fcuking' nightmare mate, lots of modification and custom fitting but it does work and fit in with a lot of fannying around

Well worth spending the time and effort to fit it into the standard unit to keep things nice and tidy

#1744 7th March 2013, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

It was a fcuking' nightmare mate, lots of modification and custom fitting but it does work and fit in with a lot of fannying around

Well worth spending the time and effort to fit it into the standard unit to keep things nice and tidy

And the original fuel hose being glued onto the plastic joiners at the top of the casing. It just the bottom filter thats the pain!

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#1745 7th March 2013, 20:44

You have to DIY the filter / bag at the bottom as its clearly way too big, stupidly I didn't get any pics when we did mine as it took pretty much all day to do it & I was due to be down at Sandys in Cornwall @ 9am to tweak the map the following morning

The hose on the top is the simple part, just pull it off (takes a while and make sure you don't break it), then secure it onto the new pump. Also the new pump isn't secured down with the standard clips because of the pick up at the bottom being too 'proud' so you have to come up with a solution to hold the pump down as well

This is the only picture I took doing mine;
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#1746 18th March 2013, 14:40

It´s so silent here now.... :-) Any updates, mate?
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#1747 19th March 2013, 12:49

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Originally Posted by radeklayer

It´s so silent here now.... :-) Any updates, mate?

Few bits and bobs but nothing substantial to update with at the moment mate... Ill update once I've got a decent amount / solutions to update with
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#1748 19th March 2013, 13:30

That loom looks lovely. I hate doing them fuel pumps there so fiddly
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#1749 20th March 2013, 22:30

This things awesome!
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#1750 21st March 2013, 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom5190

That loom looks lovely. I hate doing them fuel pumps there so fiddly

Yep completely agree mate, better to have it in-tank though than having untidy fuel lines everywhere

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taxi350

This things awesome!

Cheers mate
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#1751 17th April 2013, 15:20

UPDATE:

Its been over a month sooooooo;

Box off for a check over...

And clutch cover off to be changed from the Red springs (current) to the lightest race clutch springs that Helix do to make it more driveable....

And a nice new set of lightweight wheels

p.s. check out in the background the amount of redundant wiring stripped from the interior loom!!!

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#1752 17th April 2013, 15:33

New wheels looks hot.
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#1753 17th April 2013, 18:11

New rimms
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#1754 17th April 2013, 22:14

i miss those
I want them back
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#1755 18th April 2013, 12:22

New wheels will be nice and light that's my main concern

Also;

Gearbox casing has cracked
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#1756 18th April 2013, 14:52

Is that the clutch lever?
That's where mine cracked if so.
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#1757 18th April 2013, 15:05

I guess that area is a likely area to fail, what with the massive increase in loading from the uprated clutch, must fatigue the aluminium significantly. At least the rebuild with the softer springs should help a touch.
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#1758 18th April 2013, 15:06

Yep thats the one Sonny, I've never seen them go there before. Good job I'm making the clutch lighter by the looks of it lol
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#1759 18th April 2013, 19:18

Woo lucky you took it off in the firstlplace then.

What colour with the wheels jp?
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#1760 18th April 2013, 19:31

its BE time...
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#1761 20th April 2013, 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG

Woo lucky you took it off in the firstlplace then.

What colour with the wheels jp?

Certainly is a good job dad took it off and wanted to have a look around it before its abused over the summer when im back haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshpug

its BE time...

certainly is mate... already sourced a quaife from a mate for a BE box, next is to find the correct box with decent sport ratios.... any recommendations??
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#1762 20th April 2013, 07:48

What Kind of Fuel Pump ?
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#1763 20th April 2013, 07:58

Going for the colin satchell BE mounts?? I think there something i will at getting in the future, engine sitting level.

Im not sure if all 1.6 8v have same ratios but similar to a vts MA box iirc, could be wrong though.

#1764 22nd April 2013, 08:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by nazmitocak

What Kind of Fuel Pump ?

It's a walboro intank pump mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Going for the colin satchell BE mounts?? I think there something i will at getting in the future, engine sitting level.

Im not sure if all 1.6 8v have same ratios but similar to a vts MA box iirc, could be wrong though.

Which models and cars have the BE box on a 1.6 8v? doesn't the CS be box mounts require more chassis modifications?

We had the wheels sand blasted to tidy them up...

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#1765 22nd April 2013, 09:11

I never knew you could get a BE box on a 1.6 that's news to me. I must say there is daylight difference between them to an MA, my 206 HDI had a lovely BE gearbox the gear select was perfect never felt notchy, felt very refined like a BMW.

#1766 22nd April 2013, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly

I never knew you could get a BE box on a 1.6 that's news to me. I must say there is daylight difference between them to an MA, my 206 HDI had a lovely BE gearbox the gear select was perfect never felt notchy, felt very refined like a BMW.

You haven't been looking very hard have you Aly? The boosted boys have been running BE boxes for the past few years on the TU engines... Lol

Good to hear your experiences... I've seen the internals and there is a huge difference compared to an MA box tbh

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#1767 22nd April 2013, 11:41

thats cause hes used to reading out of a hymnbook josh in his choir boy band

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#1768 22nd April 2013, 13:15

Lol Lee!

Also got the spacers sand blasted
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#1769 23rd April 2013, 18:08

Did you upgrade the oil pump, if yes How
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#1770 24th April 2013, 14:40

It's not the standard j4 one... That's all I can say
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#1771 24th April 2013, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Which models and cars have the BE box on a 1.6 8v? doesn't the CS be box mounts require more chassis modifications?

You want an 8v 1.6 from a petrol Picasso or Berlingo. No chassis mods required to fit. Bolt straight up/in (engine mounts are a little different).
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#1772 24th April 2013, 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

No chassis mods required to fit. Bolt straight up/in

a little mod needed if you 6 speed it
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#1773 25th April 2013, 06:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweeqd

a little mod needed if you 6 speed it

Nobody likes a show off Martin ...

And it's only a "little" mod anyway huh?
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#1774 25th April 2013, 22:09

Really impressed with the build, makes me want spend more on mine lol
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#1775 26th April 2013, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

You want an 8v 1.6 from a petrol Picasso or Berlingo. No chassis mods required to fit. Bolt straight up/in (engine mounts are a little different).

Awesome Ross, any recommendations for driveshafts and wheel bearings etc that will need changing?

Roughly what speed would i be doing at 7,000rpm with that box?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweeqd

a little mod needed if you 6 speed it

Would love to Martin, If i was in the UK id definitely consider it. But I really cant justify it with me being out of the country again now for 10months of the year

Quote:

Originally Posted by chimpy88

Really impressed with the build, makes me want spend more on mine lol

Cheers mate, your the one that has James old chassis right?
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#1776 26th April 2013, 20:01

I would highly recommend having a chat with Colin about the BE box mounting kit and shafts.

Shafts need to be custom shortened BE type, though I do think there was mention of 206 shafts fitting with original hubs, as the engine is shifter 20mm towards the nearside to give equal shaft lengths and better weight distribution, access to timing belt, also inner CV to chassis clearance.

Bearings would be standard Saxo/106, drive flanges depend on my comment above, typically a turned down BE drive flange pressed into standard Saxo/106 hub and bearing.

Regarding the gearbox, there is no standard TU-BE4 box that'll have that great a set of ratios, the one that Ross mentioned isn't too bad, but there's plenty of stuff you can swap into the casing easily enough to make something up that'd suit.

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#1777 26th April 2013, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

That's not what i meant Josh. I meant I never knew Peugeot/Citroen fit BE boxes to 1.6 from the factory.
I thought they only come on the HDI's and the GTI's

#1778 27th April 2013, 07:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshpug

I would highly recommend having a chat with Colin about the BE box mounting kit and shafts.

Shafts need to be custom shortened BE type, though I do think there was mention of 206 shafts fitting with original hubs, as the engine is shifter 20mm towards the nearside to give equal shaft lengths and better weight distribution, access to timing belt, also inner CV to chassis clearance.

Bearings would be standard Saxo/106, drive flanges depend on my comment above, typically a turned down BE drive flange pressed into standard Saxo/106 hub and bearing.

Regarding the gearbox, there is no standard TU-BE4 box that'll have that great a set of ratios, the one that Ross mentioned isn't too bad, but there's plenty of stuff you can swap into the casing easily enough to make something up that'd suit.

Awesome, I will talk to Colin about his BE box mounting kits & ill probably get his to do the shafts / hubs etc for me too. Does his kit require chassis modifications? (the one I saw when I picked my engine up from Sandy had the gearbox mounted off the passengers side chassis leg)

Any recommendations on what can be used to make the gearing better for NA? are we talking off the shelf stuff or quaife kit once off jobbies?

Cheers for your help so far

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Got my wheels and spacers back to the painters.....

Got the last couple of engine bay brackets powdercoated too

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#1779 27th April 2013, 09:15

70mph was about 3000rpm with the be box. I'm using one out of a Picasso. I'm unable to use the let brace now though.

Box, shafts, upper mount, speed sensor, intermediate bracket, 1.8 petrol drive shaft and Picasso drive shaft was bought for 159 delivered. Lower mount from Garry.m on rally Reg was 65, machined be hubs 50, washers for hubs, 20, torque link for lower mount was 20, 2 wheel bearings 40. Then got upper mount made and drive shaft adjusted by Martin.
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#1780 27th April 2013, 11:03

Quick question, what spacers are you running? Thinking about getting some for mine but always had something against them.
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#1781 27th April 2013, 11:33

The reason the box had a new mount made off the chassis leg is to keep the engine and box level. Buy a kit off the shelf and it'll be on the piss

#1782 27th April 2013, 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by e8_pqck

70mph was about 3000rpm with the be box. I'm using one out of a Picasso. I'm unable to use the let brace now though.

Box, shafts, upper mount, speed sensor, intermediate bracket, 1.8 petrol drive shaft and Picasso drive shaft was bought for 159 delivered. Lower mount from Garry.m on rally Reg was 65, machined be hubs 50, washers for hubs, 20, torque link for lower mount was 20, 2 wheel bearings 40. Then got upper mount made and drive shaft adjusted by Martin.

Ok interesting, ill definitely need something shorter than that. Is yours 'on the piss' though? I'd rather do it properly if I'm honest and get Colin's mount fitted to make sure it's sitting level

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

Quick question, what spacers are you running? Thinking about getting some for mine but always had something against them.

They are hub centric mate so no really issue with them, nice and light too. They are 5.7kg including paint and spacer, compared to my pro race 1.2's which are 7.5kg per wheel. So a decent saving of 1.8kg per wheel. If you multiply that by 4 that's alot of weight off the drivetrain

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsi16v

The reason the box had a new mount made off the chassis leg is to keep the engine and box level. Buy a kit off the shelf and it'll be on the piss

Lol Matt! Yeah I've been told that before, I'm assuming if Colin's made the new mount that means there's no way to get it flat without some fabrication work? As I said above I'd rather do a proper job that have it on the piss of I'm honest lol

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#1783 27th April 2013, 14:51

It's easy to get it sitting flat but Colin's kit makes everything better..

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#1784 27th April 2013, 15:48

Read thru all these pages over the last couple of days. What a car. What a build!
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#1785 27th April 2013, 21:22

Josh ians sits flat but i completely cut out the old mount and fabricated a new one welded to the chassis leg
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#1786 27th April 2013, 21:56

How did your walbro fit the pump assembly ?

Will you be going to USC at santa pod this year ?
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#1787 28th April 2013, 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

It's easy to get it sitting flat but Colin's kit makes everything better..

Yep but requires chassis fabrication, in which case I might as well go for Colin's kit tbh. And while I'm at it he might as well chuck his front suspension kit on it too. Has he finalised the rear suspension kit yet?

Quote:

Originally Posted by artuan00

Read thru all these pages over the last couple of days. What a car. What a build!

Thanks matey. 90 pages - and this is not even the original project thread lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweeqd

Josh ians sits flat but i completely cut out the old mount and fabricated a new one welded to the chassis leg

Yep I assumed that was the only way to do it. In which case I might as well do a proper job on it and get Colin to put in his BE mounting kit I reckon

Quote:

Originally Posted by john-paul

How did your walbro fit the pump assembly ?

Will you be going to USC at santa pod this year ?

It was a bit of a pain but well worth it to keep things tidy. When's USC? Ill be back in the UK for all of July... So definitely at FCS
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#1788 30th April 2013, 13:26

Update:-

Just booked FCS tickets & the 2hour track time session woooop
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#1789 30th April 2013, 15:18

Good luck with that session! I will not be doing a show track session again, Unorganised and over sell it normally. Well that been my experience.

What date is it this year? Is it at castle Combe?

#1790 1st May 2013, 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Good luck with that session! I will not be doing a show track session again, Unorganised and over sell it normally. Well that been my experience.

What date is it this year? Is it at castle Combe?

Yeah donny organisation for track time was a joke. I was mighty hung over that morning from the big banger the previous night that we had so i didnt mind too much tbh lol. Drank faarrrr too much lol

Castle Combe yep - aka Sandys boosted slaying ground lol. It's the last weekend of July mate, just before I fly back to Oz, coincidence? Nope

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#1791 19th June 2013, 13:48

Guess I better update this....

The gearbox out to replace the cracked gearbox casing

New clutch cover, the lightest Race clutch that Helix do. Should make it more like a clutch and less like a switch lol

All fitted...

SPA sensors fitted with Beaniemoo's loom for the SPA digital dials

And a bit more bling' too

Ring 3 weeks tomorrow wooop woooop
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#1792 19th June 2013, 14:06

Did Power output crack the casing?
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#1793 19th June 2013, 14:10

no, torque!
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#1794 19th June 2013, 14:30

Nothing to do with the engine. just the clutch
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#1795 19th June 2013, 14:51

Yep mainly the clutch being so heavy that cracked the casing we believe - wont be a problem with the lighter cover plate, and BE box over winter

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#1796 19th June 2013, 15:33

Fucking love this car.

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#1797 20th June 2013, 01:06

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Originally Posted by Gabbastard

Fucking love this car.

Good old gab straight to the point, cheers mate

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#1798 20th June 2013, 09:04

When's your ring trip? Need to get some bloody decent videos of saxo's on the ring as they are few and far between!
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#1799 20th June 2013, 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

When's your ring trip? Need to get some bloody decent videos of saxo's on the ring as they are few and far between!

Last decent on yours?
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#1800 20th June 2013, 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

When's your ring trip? Need to get some bloody decent videos of saxo's on the ring as they are few and far between!

Joey! Where ya been!
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#1801 20th June 2013, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

Joey! Where ya been!

In the land of Renaultsport! But a new house and sheltered off road parking means a saxo/106 is calling for me to buy it.

Think the only decent vids are jp's!

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#1802 20th June 2013, 09:53

Someone say Saxo videos on the Ring'?

http://youtu.be/7o_b1ROiIB8

Joe - got my gopro HD 3 Black ready for videos
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#1803 20th June 2013, 09:59

Wicked. Ive only got a 2 but they are all great! Where you mounting it? Please don't do it on the cage as we want to see the track.
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#1804 20th June 2013, 10:30

Ill test it out in different positions, the HD3 Black has got the wifi built in so i can view what the camera's taking on my iphone
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#1805 20th June 2013, 10:32

A useful feature!
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#1806 22nd June 2013, 16:39

Certainly is Joe, can use the app or the remote that comes with it to control the gopro too, so things like taking pictures, switching between video/camera mode etc etc.

Certainly very useful. The Hero3 is a fair bit smaller than the older ones too + the higher quality video of course - now all we need is 4k TV's to come down in price so the gopro can be used to its full potential lol
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#1807 23rd June 2013, 20:10

Tbh I think I'll be happy with mine for the next 50 years!
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#1808 23rd June 2013, 21:33

Yet to use my gopro3black... looking forward to it though

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#1809 23rd June 2013, 21:42

Oh good some decent vids that don't take 100 years to load in hq on youtube.

About time
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#1810 23rd June 2013, 22:04

I'm looking forward to seeing some view from the ring.
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#1811 24th June 2013, 13:03

Stew - you should come the ring with us next year
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#1812 24th June 2013, 14:10

Should but won't lol
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#1813 25th June 2013, 14:07

Not something that takes your fancy stew?
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#1814 25th June 2013, 15:32

Plenty decent tracks in UK. Was talking to keV about it last Friday. I'd do spa if going abroad rather than nur.
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#1815 25th June 2013, 16:12

Nothing in the uk comes anywhere close to Nurburgring.
If it did then people wouldn't make the journey. Its immense.
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#1816 25th June 2013, 17:19

But its his choice not to go

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#1817 25th June 2013, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

But its his choice not to go

Literally thank you.

And you clearly have not been to Cadwell which is 20minutes from home joe
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#1818 25th June 2013, 19:29

I understand the ring hype
But i can see why other guys would rather just do a GOOD uk track
Theres a fair few easy ones about but for me the ring is less about the track more about the weekend
If the guts i do with did spa or even sonething like a weekend in scotland at knockhill id still do haha
It to me isnt a track its a holiday the track is second in the weekend

Where as people who only want to focus on the driving part its a hell of a long way to go just to hoon around like you can on a uk track

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#1819 25th June 2013, 20:44

True about the trip Alex... It would be boring to drive over on your own (hence me organising the trip for us all)

But also agree with Joe... No UK track comes even close to the ring - Caldwell included - I don't know who named it the mini nurburgring because they are an idiot, it's a 5/10 when you compare it to the ring - yes Stew the ring really is that good compared to any UK track I've ever done anyway!!

I've always wanted to do Spa but can't really comment there, it looks epic on TV....
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#1820 25th June 2013, 21:33

Its just the fact that my favourite uk circuit bedford the first time I was there even though I didn't know the lines very well I was going well.

Nurburgring after houra practicing on forza (okay months) millions of youtube clips later and I was still wetting myself all the way round in a 1.0 micra with 4 of us in it. Probably doing 80mph max.

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#1821 25th June 2013, 21:42

Josh not saying ring isn't good I'd have a go I'd like it to be my local lol but its a long way.

I'm a loaner lol. Always have been one for heading to the track in my own as i do like to focus on driving rather than socialising. Yes i m a sad arse.

Done Cadwell before?
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#1822 26th June 2013, 03:42

Yeah I know you weren't Stew. It is a fair distance to go, but boy it's worth it.

For me the ring trip is just as much about the track as it is the social side of things. It would be boring to go on your own, but then when your there its epic... Once you go you will realise the UK tracks are average at best.

Yeah I've been to Cadwell a couple of times, it's nothing special, very stop-starty, hard on the car & doesn't really flow that well. I much prefer donnington if I had to choose a UK track. The track flows nicely, plenty of undulation too. All in my opinion of course
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#1823 26th June 2013, 12:32

Just spent the last hour or so flicking through this thread. Man this car has come a long way since i was last a regular user of Sax-P. I can appreciate the time and effort put into this type of build after building a 106 Cup Car from scratch, this really is the ultimate Saxo before going the Kit Car route with wider track and sequential box.

Fair play Josh, everything has been done and done properly. Once the BE is in there then you wont have to worry about the gearbox then, though i have to say it seemed the MA was hanging in there pretty well?

Have fun with it, i'm sure you do anyway and i hope the Ring trip goes well

#1824 26th June 2013, 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexy_gt

Josh not saying ring isn't good I'd have a go I'd like it to be my local lol but its a long way.

I'm a loaner lol. Always have been one for heading to the track in my own as i do like to focus on driving rather than socialising. Yes i m a sad arse.

Done Cadwell before?

If you are a loaner then lend us some money to go?

Come with me sometime. Im happy to drive there myself without anyone even. Its a great place. When its not pissing it down with rain of course.

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#1825 28th June 2013, 22:04

pork pie lover man
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#1826 30th June 2013, 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush

pork pie lover man

Cheers Chinese bush loving lcfc man lol.

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Small update;

Car is now ready for MOT, should fly through, and then I'm back from Australia in exactly a weeks time for final ring prep & some road testing

added pics...

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#1827 21st July 2013, 23:29

Hi Josh.

Just wanted to say big thanks for the Ring trip was an awesome weekend think you've defo got me hooked and eager to go back and see your car in action.
You still planing on going back on your own this week? Hope you had a good time in Ibiza bet you need a weekend to catch up on some sleep lol

#1828 23rd July 2013, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

True about the trip Alex... It would be boring to drive over on your own (hence me organising the trip for us all)

But also agree with Joe... No UK track comes even close to the ring - Caldwell included - I don't know who named it the mini nurburgring because they are an idiot, it's a 5/10 when you compare it to the ring - yes Stew the ring really is that good compared to any UK track I've ever done anyway!!

I've always wanted to do Spa but can't really comment there, it looks epic on TV....

its all down to what you fancy, ive been ring for a week , 10 days, weekends, and yet spa is one was wana do, u basically drive past it, i think track days are who u are with, i did one with mat russel and collin a few weeks ago, and it was the bollox of a day, that was at snetterton 300.. its the same with english tracks, yea some r better than others but its all down to what u like, at ring i smash my mate, i love it, yet english tracks hes on me like glue, its all down to what you fancy i think next year we should do a open pit day at a track mid field of everyone come, not no-ones home ground just a semi decent price track, and just have it up, ring is good and great fun, and untill u go there you cant describe it and ppl look at u weird and shit, just to watch is all good and the cars there are different levels, well some, ull see a 86 yr old man hanging his gt3 out,

i did wana go ring with u guys but baby is here in 3 weeks so im on home soil only

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#1829 23rd July 2013, 15:27

Where are all the ring vids????
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#1830 23rd July 2013, 20:04

Beast!
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#1831 23rd July 2013, 23:06

Very excited to see this in the flesh on the weekend!!

#1832 24th July 2013, 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_Cupra

Hi Josh.

Just wanted to say big thanks for the Ring trip was an awesome weekend

think you've defo got me hooked and eager to go back and see your car in action.
You still planing on going back on your own this week? Hope you had a good time in Ibiza bet you need a weekend to catch up on some sleep lol

Cheers Dan, its a pleasure mate and im glad you guys had a cracking weekend

If your free this weekend you should pop over to castle combe for French car show and see the car in action

Yeah Ibiza was nuts mate, unfortunately (as normal) Ive got a crazy bad cold / man flu from Ibiza so that ruled out going back to the ring this week lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by superchargedsaxokev

Yeah I agree with you Kev, really does depend who your with, but at the ring its on a whole different level, plus like you mentioned at the ring it seperates the good drivers from average drivers, where as the UK tracks are generally fairly flat which makes them easier

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Where are all the ring vids????

Keep up Joey

Gearbox exploded (quite literally!) on the motorway on the way back from Sandys the night before we were due to go to the ring! So dad rebuilt the box while I was away in Germany / Ibiza and we fitted when I got back on Sunday morning. Now rocking a vts/gti box which is waaayyyy too long with the 9k limiter, and saps a bit of power being so long, but it will do the job for this summer before the BE box goes in next year

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathias

Very excited to see this in the flesh on the weekend!!

Definitely Andy, be good to catch up, and mash hard on Saturday night after FCS too lol

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#1833 24th July 2013, 12:21

Here you go Joe...

One video from the ring for you
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#1834 24th July 2013, 23:52

Ah mate I would pop over to FCS but I'm off on hols Friday. Have to keep an ear out for when ya back in the UK and sort a day out or somert.

Glad ya had a time in Ibiza, least you haven't got go back to the ring on ya own. You got the box sorted? When you planning on going back to the ring?

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#1835 29th July 2013, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_Cupra

Ah mate I would pop over to FCS but I'm off on hols Friday. Have to keep an ear out for when ya back in the UK and sort a day out or somert.

Glad ya had a time in Ibiza, least you haven't got go back to the ring on ya own. You got the box sorted? When you planning on going back to the ring?

Yeah definitely, a track day all together would be awesome, next year in spring/Easter maybe

yeah got the box all fixed up so at least got some use out of the mango this year!

Had a cracking day out at fcs... I'll update properly with pics etc when I'm back out in Australia later this week, probably when im wide awake in the middle of the night lol

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#1836 29th July 2013, 15:52

Id be up for a group of us doing a track day. Keep me in mind if you decide to do one mate
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#1837 29th July 2013, 22:40

Any noise regs on the nurburgring? I`ll be keen to go down in the spring if theres no regs
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#1838 2nd August 2013, 08:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by P33_CHM

Id be up for a group of us doing a track day. Keep me in mind if you decide to do one mate

Will do matey, im thinking late spring next year or something, maybe over christmas if i get carried away and want to let the car loose in the snow and ice lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve6

Any noise regs on the nurburgring? I`ll be keen to go down in the spring if theres no regs

Nah no noise regs on the ring, or not that im aware of any mate.

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WOW - what a crazy crazy month. Im now back in Sydney, I've uploaded all my pic's ready to update this thread, i'll hopefully get time to do the write up this weekend

A teaser for the time being...

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#1839 2nd August 2013, 14:09

I need your dial surround! Looking forward to seeing the pics in your update mate

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#1840 2nd August 2013, 19:03

We want vids now of this vehicle!!!!!
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#1841 2nd August 2013, 22:51

Im interested in how it drives tbh. Im possibly picking up a GTI soon and need to plan for the future. Turbo supercharge or tb's!
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#1842 2nd August 2013, 22:52

Video's are uploading as we speak, they are in 4K HD so taking roughly 10hours per 10min video to upload on YouTube with a fast Internet connection lol
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#1843 2nd August 2013, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Im interested in how it drives tbh. Im possibly picking up a GTI soon and need to plan for the future. Turbo supercharge or tb's!

It drives exactly like a normal engine Joe, you can put it in 5th from 2,000rpm and it's fine - it drives better than my old engine, unbelievable for a race engine really, but that's the magic of sandy brown I guess

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#1844 2nd August 2013, 23:02

Can't wait to see them!! The vid of you driving mine too?
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#1845 2nd August 2013, 23:02

I mean it probably drives nicer than a turbo engine im guessing and also less torque steer and wheelspin? Would you say you are underpowered or overpoweree chassis wise?
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#1846 3rd August 2013, 11:10

It drives better than a renault lol
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#1847 3rd August 2013, 11:50

I should think so lol

#1848 4th August 2013, 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathias

Can't wait to see them!! The vid of you driving mine too?

Yes mate, im uploading them now

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

I mean it probably drives nicer than a turbo engine im guessing and also less torque steer and wheelspin? Would you say you are underpowered or overpoweree chassis wise?

230ish horse power through the front wheels of an 800kg chassis is plenty in my opinion mate...

See what you think...

PART 1 from FCS (The video isnt upside down when you click on the link)

PART 2

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#1849 4th August 2013, 12:26

Meh 8v's to many

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#1850 4th August 2013, 13:01

Bwaaaaaah bwaaaaaaah, video is awesome mate, car sounds just as good from the inside

Sent from my iPhone5 using Tapatalk, to piss Chr15 off..

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#1851 4th August 2013, 16:15

Cars looking good
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#1852 4th August 2013, 23:33

Jaw dropping, this car really does fly you certainly pushed it more than when it was first out so impressed with this thing!.
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#1853 5th August 2013, 01:22

Vids are good, car sounds awesome. Fuck you though, made me go and look in the for sale section for tbs..

That was the only thing i found with cadtle coombe, that theres no elevation change which makes the circuit a bit less involving. Still good though.
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#1854 5th August 2013, 06:55

nice work josh shows what can be done if you just stick at it and not get hing up on the little problems!

now can I have sandy number i think i need itb in my life
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#1855 5th August 2013, 10:25

Bought a GTI. Definately going to stay n/a!
Videos rock

#1856 7th August 2013, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

Meh 8v's to many

8 valves is like only having one ball in your sack

lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeHindle

Bwaaaaaah bwaaaaaaah, video is awesome mate, car sounds just as good from the inside

haha cheers Joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairmorn308

Cars looking good

Cheers pal

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG

Jaw dropping, this car really does fly you certainly pushed it more than when it was first out so impressed with this thing!.

Awesome

it certainly surprises plenty out on the road lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabbastard

Vids are good, car sounds awesome. Fuck you though, made me go and look in the for sale section for tbs..

That was the only thing i found with cadtle coombe, that theres no elevation change which makes the circuit a bit less involving. Still good though.

Haha, did you find any??

Really? I thought it had a bit of everything, it is fairly flat and I generally enjoy elevation changes (hence me loving the ring' ooooo eeerrrr) but I think the bump's in the track make it challenging to keep it pointing in the right direction, especially when your pumping plenty of power through the front wheels lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal106

nice work josh shows what can be done if you just stick at it and not get hing up on the little problems!

now can I have sandy number i think i need itb in my life

YES YOU DO TOM! Itb's on the cards now then mate??

Definitely does show what can be done when you stick at it, Sandys done some very interesting analysis from FCS on my video vs a "similar" NA powered lump from a different company, amongst the interesting results was that I did half the amount of gear changes per lap - decent spread of torque anyone??? lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Bought a GTI. Definately going to stay n/a!
Videos rock

106 GTI? NA ftw mate!!!

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#1857 7th August 2013, 15:34

All I need to do now is spend 6 months looking at your thread for inspiration
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#1858 8th August 2013, 06:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

8 valves is like only having one ball in your sack lol

But it does the trick

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#1859 12th August 2013, 08:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

All I need to do now is spend 6 months looking at your thread for inspiration

Keep us up to date with how your getting on Joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

But it does the trick

There's doing the trick, and then there's doing the trick properly Sam... lol
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#1860 12th August 2013, 09:44

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#1861 12th August 2013, 09:45

OK guys.... time to update this from Summer 2013....

I flew back from down under to spend all of July in the UK. Sam & Dad had already got the car MOT'd and ready to go...

and with a new Nickname....

'The Angry Wasp'

First job was to pull the dials out, give them a good clean and find the 'red button' - this controls the SPA digital dash

And house the red button in the dash so it looks tidy and standard ish

Lots of other bits to tidy things up... housed the electric window switches nice and firmly in the panel below the steering wheel

Measuring the circumference of the wheels to calibrate the speedo for the SPA...

Nice little touch I thought...

Replaced the rusty screw in the satshifter...

Fitted my dials back in with a Carbon Fibre dial surroound from Streamline, bling bling!

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That was the first few days in the UK, then me and Sam headed down to Sandys for him to check over my engine... everything was going well until the drive back (late at night) and 3rd gear decided to destroy itself on the motorway...

Sam wasnt happy LOL
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#1862 12th August 2013, 09:45

The gearbox blew up approx 11pm wednesday night, and seeing as we were leaving for the ring trip thursday morning that kinda screwed up our chances of going to the ring in the Mango/angry wasp...

So mOlly & I grabbed a lift with one of my mates coming on the trip in his Megane 1.9d

And obviously took it for a couple of laps...

p.s. he's never done any laps before hence the directions you can hear on the video from me.

There was 24 of us this year on the ring trip that I organise, it was a fantastic weekend

The lads also kindly (some may say stupidly) let me take there cars round the ring for a lap

Lea's Clio 200.... 9:12 BTG

Mathias 160bhp Saxo.... 9:12 BTG

AlexB's 185bhp 106.... 9:02 BTG

And quickest of the lot (amazingly) was Nickheads 165bhp (my old engine) 106.... 8:59 BTG on road tyres with no brackes after half a lap!

On the way back from the Ring' we had some fun in the tunnels...
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#1863 12th August 2013, 10:19

Sounds ominous!
This coment will look really odd when you fill in the bits above! Hahaha
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#1864 12th August 2013, 10:26

So with the ring trip over, dad pulled the box out of the car, collected a replacement VTS/GTI gearbox from AndySaxo, luckily we had a vts/gti ready to have the Quaife fitted to it...

As soon as I returned from Ibiza, Chris, Sam & I lobbed the gearbox back in Sunday morning, and headed straight to the Rolling Road...

And went to Mallory Park to get it weighed again... now 800kg with half a tank of fuel....

Couple of pics of the car as it currently stands...
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#1865 12th August 2013, 10:43

Does your car pass a legal emissions test?
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#1866 12th August 2013, 10:50

Have to say after seeing the spa dash, do really like it, works really well on your car josh, and it very impressive engine, put a massive smile on my face after been in it!
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#1867 12th August 2013, 11:11

So the car was now ready for FCS 2013....

Chris (Jessop) and I headed down to Castle Combe early in the morning...

Had the 2 hour track time booked to begin with

Locking up the rear brakes... Think I need to turn the rear braking off a bit lol

Couple of videos of the track time... I loved the track
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#1868 12th August 2013, 11:23

Finally the month was coming to an end

Gave the Mango a quick wash so its clean before I headed back down under...

Took the track wheels off... pretty obviously which are the fronts and rears (Note where the pick-up rubber is on the tyre from the cool down laps)

And parked up for another winter
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#1869 12th August 2013, 11:36

Epic update josh!!! So much love for this car tbh mate. Great to see you again too cant wait to meet up again mate so few and far between now but always epic when it happens

#1870 12th August 2013, 11:39

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Originally Posted by Alanapone

Sounds ominous!
This coment will look really odd when you fill in the bits above! Hahaha

Give me time to write it mate... jeeeeeezzzzz lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Does your car pass a legal emissions test?

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Have to say after seeing the spa dash, do really like it, works really well on your car josh, and it very impressive engine, put a massive smile on my face after been in it!

Yeah I agree with you there Andy, im really happy with the SPA, its everything I thought it was going to be and way more tbh

And glad you enjoyed your little experience in the driving seat

#1871 12th August 2013, 11:43

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Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

Epic update josh!!! So much love for this car tbh mate. Great to see you again too cant wait to meet up again mate so few and far between now but always epic when it happens

Im just giving everyone chance to save up while im away so we can have an epic months worth of activities while im back

Good to see you too pal, shame you couldnt make the big banger but these things happen! Loved my couple of laps driving your Clio around the ring too

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#1872 12th August 2013, 11:52

Looks like its been a fun year! Are you not tempted to put it in a container and get it shipped over to oz?
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#1873 12th August 2013, 12:43

Awesome update so much love for the mango! Seeing as your not here at the minute, I think it would be in your best interests to let me 'look after' your car

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#1874 12th August 2013, 12:50

Lol, Sorry dude. Hahaha.

Epic update! I don't know how you crammed it all in to one visit!? You truly are living the dream!!
Looking forward to getting mine ready for next years ring trip if theirs a space for me? I hope you get yours over next time. Lucky you had some locals going to get a lift off. Hehehe.
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#1875 12th August 2013, 13:33

Sounds like an epic month! Those videos are awesome, from both FCS and the Nurburgring
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#1876 12th August 2013, 13:51

Had a awesome time at the ring we you and everone! im sure next years tunnel vid is going to be abit louder with yours there! :eek:

#1877 12th August 2013, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

Epic update josh!!! So much love for this car tbh mate. Great to see you again too cant wait to meet up again mate so few and far between now but always epic when it happens

Your car makes me keep thinking I need a silly French tin in my life (and made me sell the Mk2, had no love for it tbh!)

Agreed with Lea, always nice to see you when you *occasionally* pop over and visit! (In fairness, I don't think my liver could handle you coming over more frequently!)

Roll on our next liver busting session and Ring trip!

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#1878 13th August 2013, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Looks like its been a fun year! Are you not tempted to put it in a container and get it shipped over to oz?

I am actualy... Ive worked it out, I can have it over here for 9 months of the year, 2 months in a container per year (a month each way) and have it in Europe for a month in the summer... now ive just gotta justify the cost lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeHindle

Awesome update

so much love for the mango! Seeing as your not here at the minute, I think it would be in your best interests to let me 'look after' your car

Cheers Joe! Was good to meet you at FCS mate, and glad you took a liking to the mango. Im sure it would be in my best interests... but Sam & Dad do a fine job cheers mate

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Originally Posted by Alanapone

Lol, Sorry dude. Hahaha.

Epic update! I don't know how you crammed it all in to one visit!? You truly are living the dream!!
Looking forward to getting mine ready for next years ring trip if theirs a space for me? I hope you get yours over next time. Lucky you had some locals going to get a lift off. Hehehe.

haha i was joking mate....

It was a bloody bonkers month mate, not much sleep combined with lots and lots of fun

I didnt mention spending 5 days in Ibiza in this update either lol

Im sure there will be a space for you mate... i'll chuck a thread up about next years trip in a month or 2 so keep your eyes out for it

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanAngell1234

Sounds like an epic month! Those videos are awesome, from both FCS and the Nurburgring

Glad you enjoyed the videos mate... I was suprised how much I enjoyed Castle combe (fcs) to be honest, it looks boring on paper but its good fun. The Ring' speaks for itself... its just fooking mega

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Originally Posted by P33_CHM

Had a awesome time at the ring we you and everone! im sure next years tunnel vid is going to be abit louder with yours there! :eek:

Me too Mark, was great to meet you & a great weekend had by all on the ring trip, plenty of banter which is always good lol. Yes hopefully my car is done for next year and we can have even more noise going through the tunnels

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Originally Posted by PJN

You sold the Golf Pete??? hahaaha you always go bonkers when you come out with us Pete - its fooking awesome, I had to stop you drinking this year hahahaha

Next liver busting session is christmas, plenty of time to recover lmao. Ring trip 2014 - fuck yeah

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#1879 13th August 2013, 14:36

Like I've said it was great to meet you and have a good chat with you throughout the day- the cars given me plenty of inspiration for what route I wanna go down, damnit it was worth a try mate!

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#1880 13th August 2013, 18:19

Ring trip 2014?
Im in this time!

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#1881 13th August 2013, 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_N

Ring trip 2014?
Im in this time!

YES!! Get in Sam!!

#1882 13th August 2013, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

You sold the Golf Pete??? hahaaha you always go bonkers when you come out with us Pete - its fooking awesome, I had to stop you drinking this year hahahaha

Next liver busting session is christmas, plenty of time to recover lmao. Ring trip 2014 - fuck yeah

Aye, time for something French (should of did it all along!) I didn't drive 220 miles to not drink too much, come on man!

Bring on Christmas then!

#1883 14th August 2013, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeHindle

Like I've said it was great to meet you and have a good chat with you throughout the day- the cars given me plenty of inspiration for what route I wanna go down, damnit it was worth a try mate!

Good good, so whats the plan for yours? 200bhp NA??!!

lol

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Originally Posted by MR_N

Ring trip 2014?
Im in this time!

Good Sam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

YES!! Get in Sam!!

Already sounding like next years trip is going to be epic!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJN

Aye, time for something French (should of did it all along!) I didn't drive 220 miles to not drink too much, come on man!

Bring on Christmas then!

I told you to get a saxo/106 and track slag it from the beginning

Bring on christmas indeedy, mega mash ftw!!

p.s.

This is the remains of my old gearbox lol. Fair to say its good for absolutely nothing

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#1884 14th August 2013, 12:57

How much does this spank you in fuel on a long trip?
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#1885 14th August 2013, 13:26

40mpg at 75mph on the motorway.... yes a race engine that does 40mpg

#1886 14th August 2013, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

I told you to get a saxo/106 and track slag it from the beginning

Bring on christmas indeedy, mega mash ftw!!

p.s.

This is the remains of my old gearbox lol. Fair to say its good for absolutely nothing

Aye, so did a few people, my own fault really!

Pretty mangled gearbox then haha, Fun old night that waiting for you's to get back!

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#1887 14th August 2013, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Good good, so whats the plan for yours? 200bhp NA??!! lol

Hahaha! Well I've already got buckets and a stripped out car, but I think I'd need to wear nappies if I had 200bhp
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#1888 15th August 2013, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

40mpg at 75mph on the motorway.... yes a race engine that does 40mpg

Seriously? Fuck me its the biggest reason I didnt go for mad spec, thinking Id get 10mpg!

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#1889 15th August 2013, 08:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

YES!! Get in Sam!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Good Sam

I was gutted when i had to turn down the passenger ride in Lea's car due to work.
Now mine is done hopefully i'll take it along if it's still together by then.
If not ill take a passenger position.
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#1890 15th August 2013, 08:58

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Originally Posted by Gabbastard

Seriously? Fuck me its the biggest reason I didnt go for mad spec, thinking Id get 10mpg!

thats providing you don,t skim on the ecu system and MAPPING time --which is where most people cut the corners.
thats why i like the DTA or predator its so easy to run w/b in real time --omex and others can,t do that
seems they are happy to spend on shiny bits but not onsomeones expertise to aset it up correctly
very short sighted.

#1891 15th August 2013, 09:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabbastard

Seriously? Fuck me its the biggest reason I didnt go for mad spec, thinking Id get 10mpg!

Yep serious mate, that's with a 1.4xsi box too, so in theory on a longer box it would be even better

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Originally Posted by axsaxoman

thats providing you don,t skim on the ecu system and MAPPING time --which is where most people cut the corners.
thats why i like the DTA or predator its so easy to run w/b in real time --omex and others can,t do that
seems they are happy to spend on shiny bits but not onsomeones expertise to aset it up correctly
very short sighted.

Agreed John, setting up the engine up is as important if not more important than the spec IMO. This engine has had NO corners cut what so ever. Although your assumption about us using a wideband is incorrect

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#1892 15th August 2013, 09:20

With 40mpg could use it as a daily I was surprised how well mine did on ITB's.
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#1893 15th August 2013, 10:12

Stock Saxo with decat when I first mapped mine on the first Predator I wound the fuel down to 50mpg @ 65mph on closed loop wideband. Normal tyres at factory pressures

Couldn't have that as a one-off map and use on a trackday because 3000rpm 10% throttle represents apex position on a racetrack and last thing you want is a 16.5:1 AFR when you're on part throttle tickling a car round a corner on the limit!

#1894 15th August 2013, 13:15

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Originally Posted by axsaxoman

Ah balls, ive bought an Omex 600 as well

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#1895 15th August 2013, 14:55

I wasn,t even thinking particlarly about your build ,so ther was no assumption of you using w/b .
but if you did your light throttle fuelling would be better still + you would have even better ambient condition compensations ,especially on warm up .
you always have the option to limit at what the load and rpms w/b can actually adjust fuelling , EG up to say 50% load +100% tps up to say 4k and tail it off as you please but can still see what is actually happening across whole rpm + load range
I know some worry about probes going down under race conditions ,but that is usualy due to incorrect postioning of probe or too much of it poking into the exhaust--so just make it so it can,t adjust full throttle heavy load points
lets face it if turbo cars can run them ,from factory and don,t fall apart with the heat it should never be a problem on an n/a car
there is another popint ==you can check if the mapper has done a good job as well and help him to fine tune the map once you see the readings in the real world
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#1896 15th August 2013, 15:06

[B][Couldn't have that as a one-off map and use on a trackday because 3000rpm 10% throttle represents apex position on a racetrack and last thing you want is a 16.5:1 AFR when you're on part throttle tickling a car round a corner on the limit! /B]

no but with a w/b +gauge you could see EXACTLY what is happening at all times ,and my guess would be that most are set overrich --just to be sure
you will certainly see a lean/rich hole in the map on acceleration or very light throttle which can be hard to spot on the dyno sometimes
8/10 cars i see which have been heavily modifed the oil stinks of fuel when you snifff the filler cap if driven about gently--which is showing fuelling are not correct at light + start up areas ,which in turn will shortne ring life drastically
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#1897 15th August 2013, 21:31

Not a big concern when you have SB mapping, he has spent a LOT of time mapping very similar engines, as well as quite a variety of jre's engines, that his builds use less fuel, run cleamer and last longer, and lap quicker

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#1898 9th September 2013, 10:57

FCS Video Part 1 (click on the video its not upside down)

FCS Part 2

EDIT: Whoooops just realised ive already posted these but screw it, they can stay up
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#1899 11th September 2013, 12:30

Your thread is massive.

Do you have any pictures of your washer bottle modification. I seem to remember it being in a different place/lookiny very tidy?
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#1900 11th September 2013, 13:23

You mean for the window screen? if so - its in the standard position Joey!

Thread is massive because its been a project car for 9 years now lol

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#1901 12th September 2013, 08:42

Ah yeah its because you have removed the ecu and the engine bay looks so tidy...
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#1902 12th September 2013, 10:19

Yep, also removed both fuse boxes, all wiring where possible, bonnet stand bracket + loom plug bracket & fuse box bracket and filled in all the remaining holes too.
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#1903 12th September 2013, 10:20

Where was it all relocated to?
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#1904 12th September 2013, 14:05

Beaniemoo combined all the fuse boxes into 1 nice tidy fuse box modified to fit into the standard fuse box bracket, and still has good access too

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#1905 12th September 2013, 14:10

Where does my beaniemoo live?!
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#1906 12th September 2013, 20:59

Near milton keynes joe boy
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#1907 18th September 2013, 13:19

OK update time;

Mango once again parked up over the winter...

I was extremely pleased with the SPA digital dash, however while it was custom reprogrammed for me they had messed up and it wasnt saving some settings, for example it wasnt saving the fact I wasnt using pressure 2, or the circumference of my tyre, rev limiter LED colour change etc etc

So thats been recently removed and sent back to SPA, along with the speedo sensor which also gave up the ghost after less than 500 miles. tut tut!

Next up was the fix the SHOCKING state that the carbon roof had got itself into this summer....

Im sure this shouldnt happen after a few years & being dry stored over winter... but anyway it needed fixing regardless. So the car went straight down to Bic and I paid to have the roof re-lacquered, and the spoiler too. They did a great job so I was pleased

And the spoiler too...

Next up is to begin the BE conversion

2 BE boxes;

BE shafts ready to be chopped up to get the correct length...

Next updates for the mango will come around Christmas time when im next back in the UK

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On a side note the famous XR racecar still has chalk on it from the 2012 Ring trip, over a year ago now lol

Ring toaster getting some use 'down-under'

And I have my tickets for the v8supercars in Bathurst in a few weeks time + 3 day stand passes for the Sydney 500 at the start of december

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#1908 19th September 2013, 03:42

Good update Josh, as ever, roof and spoiler look spot on, and the S1 looks just, well, superb! Haha

Looking forward to seeing the progress with the box conversion!

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#1909 19th September 2013, 18:22

Chalk!!
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#1910 21st September 2013, 09:01

The re laquer on the roof and spoiler looks spot on mate.
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#1911 21st September 2013, 09:44

Isnt helping me not want a carbon roof.

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#1912 22nd September 2013, 04:50

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Originally Posted by JoeHindle

Good update Josh, as ever, roof and spoiler look spot on, and the S1 looks just, well, superb! Haha

Looking forward to seeing the progress with the box conversion!

Haha @ the S1, loved driving the S1 when I was in the UK.... thrash it through the country lanes every day... But no point in insuring it at the moment with me only back for 6 weeks a year in the UK & I have access to the 200k+ Dirty diesel 106 when I'm back. But also no point in selling it as it's worth bugger all lol

Yes your right roof + spoiler is an awesome job from the looks of it (I haven't seen it in person yet lol). BE conversion will help get my confidence back in the car, stupid MA cheese boxes always breaking!

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Originally Posted by AlexB

Chalk!!

Chalk ftw... Wonder who's car(s) is on the target list for newbie initiation on next years ring trip?? Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG

The re laquer on the roof and spoiler looks spot on mate.

Yeah I'm really pleased with it, just need to get the bonnet done when I have the cash, other priories at the moment

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Originally Posted by MR_N

Isnt helping me not want a carbon roof.

Speaking of ring initiation... Oh haaiiii Sam

lol. Screw the CF roof you need new front and rear suspension first matey

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#1913 23rd September 2013, 04:33

Haha! Glad my car won't be going next year, although I'd leave the chalk for the giggles haha! It's all part of the fun

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#1914 18th December 2013, 22:50

I'm looking forward to working on this over the Christmas break....

We fly out from Sydney tomorrow

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#1915 21st December 2013, 10:02

You home now then??
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#1916 21st December 2013, 10:30

Yep just dropped into Sam's work on my way home (hence posting from the citroen account)
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#1917 21st December 2013, 17:13

welcome home Josh.....awaiting progress...chop chop

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#1918 23rd December 2013, 05:54

Cheers Matt, heading up to my unit this morning whoooop
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#1919 23rd December 2013, 07:22

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Cheers Matt, heading up to my unit this morning whoooop

Number plate!

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#1920 24th December 2013, 07:28
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#1921 24th December 2013, 07:58

Engine sold, weighing it in, buying a Holden??? Lol
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#1922 24th December 2013, 09:53

Engine out ready for BE box to go in ?!
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#1923 24th December 2013, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by slammed106

Engine sold, weighing it in, buying a Holden??? Lol

A Sandy brown V8 in a Holden?? Now we are talking!!

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#1924 24th December 2013, 21:49

Finally decided t man up and go boost

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#1925 25th December 2013, 14:48

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Originally Posted by tweeqd

Finally decided t man up and go boost

Lol.

Dean got his hands on my new bits....
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#1926 25th December 2013, 23:24

'Responsible delivery co2 neutral' GAY!
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#1927 26th December 2013, 12:56

Haha, agreed!
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#1928 27th December 2013, 15:40

Hey hey JP!
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#1929 28th December 2013, 08:19

Haaaiiiii mOlly
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#1930 30th December 2013, 19:48

So how did you get on with this josh?
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#1931 30th December 2013, 23:51

Is this done yet?

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#1932 31st December 2013, 11:32

Spread news in this thread jp
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#1933 31st December 2013, 17:49

Mango is ready for it's holidays now too...

CF roof since it was re-lacquered

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#1934 31st December 2013, 18:38

taking the engine out to make it lighter wont make it go quicker
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#1935 31st December 2013, 19:33

Ah, I see you're following my theme of; use the car once, strip it all down and mess with it some more!!

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#1936 4th January 2014, 05:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe

Holiday to Satchell engineering?

Maybe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

taking the engine out to make it lighter wont make it go quicker

Hahaha good one... It needs to come out to allow other things to happen to help it go quicker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

Ah, I see you're following my theme of; use the car once, strip it all down and mess with it some more!!

That's the life of a project car full stop mate lol

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The car is off on it's holidays today...

Last night in my unit
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#1937 8th January 2014, 00:57

Subscribing to this.

looking very interesting!
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#1938 8th January 2014, 17:40

Awesome work Josh should hopefully make it more reliable.
Also to add to the N/A vs boost debate I know it's only a bit of fun anyway but you don't need mega power on track, a well setup car with a good driver will compete with just about anything.

Take for instance this video, This is Dan from AK Automotive, one of the best Mx5 tuners in the country. Tim the driver in this video is driving his Mx5 turbo not sure on exact power but it's over 200bhp.
Dan is in his N/A tuned race car and just look how much faster he is through the sweeping bends as he is able to maintain momentum better.
Not saying boost is wrong sometimes it can be a cheap alternative to getting to the power figures you want (if you were after a low boost setup) but the N/A car will be a lot better to drive.
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#1939 8th January 2014, 18:26

I do love n/a power but there is something addictive about having the turbo on tap at the ready and just going booooooosh!
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#1940 8th January 2014, 18:55

another n/a vs boost video

it just goes to show how a half decent driver can pilot something that probably has half the power and not quite half the weight as fast as something that has a lot more power and in theory better handling (4wd)...
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#1941 8th January 2014, 18:59

The driver is everything tbh but a car with no power will loose if it can't keep up

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#1942 8th January 2014, 20:55

It's not only power... It's also weight/tyres/suspension.
It's logical a stock STI "loses" to a cammed/stripped VTS.

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#1943 8th January 2014, 21:24

That vid is good but it shows a guy who obviously knows the track and his car really well. The other drivers could be new to the track or car or both so your bound to piss on them. That said, i'm not arguing against the points being made, i just wanted to highlight this as another variable in the whole "look at me blasting bigger cars on a track" situation.

Good videos though... Need to get back on the track soon!

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#1944 8th January 2014, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn_M

It's not only power... It's also weight/tyres/suspension.
It's logical a stock STI "loses" to a cammed/stripped VTS.

Cannot wait to try mine on track martin, didn't you say you have a few mates over in holland with mx5's you looking forward to the ring? Ive got a couple track days booked already this year

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#1945 8th January 2014, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by greyjasper51

another n/a vs boost video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04cG9x6JaZ4

it just goes to show how a half decent driver can pilot something that probably has half the power and not quite half the weight as fast as something that has a lot more power and in theory better handling (4wd)...

Thing is though that saxo on the straights isn't far off speed wise to scoobie, not knocking your point at all but the power to weight of both are probably quite close..

Like when my cousin went to croft with his girlfriend in his evo 5, she was getting done by civics, clio sports etc. As she was new to track. My cousin was then obviously knocking spots off them and they couldn't get close.

A good driver makes the world of difference, that's proven eith the tranny van round the nurburgring by that crazy german chick... clarkson was struggling in a much more powerful jag.

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#1946 8th January 2014, 23:06

very nice car

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#1947 8th January 2014, 23:14

Just proves my point of a half decent driver

#1948 9th January 2014, 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly

Cannot wait to try mine on track martin, didn't you say you have a few mates over in holland with mx5's you looking forward to the ring? Ive got a couple track days booked already this year

Yeah soms guys i know drive MX5's. Not sure if they might go to the Ring though.

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#1949 9th January 2014, 09:26

Good discussion lads

The ring exaggerates a good driver vs average driver IMO
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#1950 9th January 2014, 10:42

The ring exaggerates EVERYTHING scares the living bejesus out of me! Especially going 120mph down foxhole with a pack of 911's and Megane's sat on your back bumper with a left hander coming up LOL

So JP share the love? Why's the engine out?
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#1951 9th January 2014, 22:00

I was doing 130+ in Alex's gti down the foxhole last year... Love that section!

You'll have to wait and see. Here's a teaser for now...
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#1952 9th January 2014, 23:18

Foxhole makes my stomach go funky. Love it.

Have to admit i almost shit myself there on one of my first paxlaps. (in a 350bhp caged/stripped/semi'd/prepped Impreza)

#1953 10th January 2014, 03:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn_M

Foxhole makes my stomach go funky. Love it.

Have to admit i almost shit myself there on one of my first paxlaps. (in a 350bhp caged/stripped/semi'd/prepped Impreza)

Agreed Martin, it flows so nicely, and then the compression at the bottom of the hill + the mentally quick left hander at the top of the hill before the right hander before Adenau Forst - EPIC!

Hopefully we will get the chance to take you out on a pax lap in the mango this summer

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#1954 10th January 2014, 11:44

All the downhill sections scare me to be honest as you don't quite realise how fast you are going and then its the opposite on the uphill one's as you don't realise how fast you can go. Really want to get there again soon! Maybe next year with you guys would be good. Some pax laps would be a help as done around 10 in various cars over various days/conditions so never had a good flowing lap as of yet. Must be shite scary in a mentally fast little tin can too aye JP
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#1955 10th January 2014, 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn_M

It's not only power... It's also weight/tyres/suspension.
It's logical a stock STI "loses" to a cammed/stripped VTS.

A scooby also costs alot more in parts to repair / replace. My coilvers were £500 and that is a cheap set. Then there is the brakeing, a scooby is heavier so is going to take a bit more to stop. I would not think twice about throwing my old saxo around the roads, yet i dont keep up with corsa's on the back roads in my scooby....untill i get on the straights
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#1956 10th January 2014, 11:53

Lovely car JP it really is a credit to you.

In the debate....

A driver in a boosted car that knows what there doing, with less power, less weight than other evo's and runs a much quicker lap than bigger powered evo's.

Really does solely depend on the driver, if you kept switching the drivers between boosted and N/A it would be interesting to see the time differences etc.

This guy knows the ring, not massive power but it's in the right hands... the drivetrain has been upgraded by the sounds of it though...
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#1957 10th January 2014, 16:53

Why has he got a squeaky toy under his clutch pedal??

#1958 11th January 2014, 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

All the downhill sections scare me to be honest as you don't quite realise how fast you are going and then its the opposite on the uphill one's as you don't realise how fast you can go. Really want to get there again soon! Maybe next year with you guys would be good. Some pax laps would be a help as done around 10 in various cars over various days/conditions so never had a good flowing lap as of yet. Must be shite scary in a mentally fast little tin can too aye JP

Certainly is.... but the old tin can's do suprise an alarmingly high amount of so called better cars

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#1959 11th January 2014, 11:52

Should be interesting at the ring this year josh!

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#1960 11th January 2014, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

Should be interesting at the ring this year josh!

Need to get there first Andy lol
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#1961 12th January 2014, 03:26

Just a few bits and bobs, main thing to get done is the BE box to make it more reliable, and heavier
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#1962 12th January 2014, 09:41

[QUOTE=jpsaxo;6409358, and heavier [/QUOTE]

More carbon is required then

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#1963 12th January 2014, 10:07

its not that much, 5-6 kilos at the most I bet on the box itself, maybe a little on the shafts too.

Far outweighed by the reliability they give the package.

Just have a big poo.

or leave your wallet with Colin

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#1964 12th January 2014, 11:29

Ahh, cool. Satchshift as well?
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#1965 12th January 2014, 12:55

BE satchshift of course Alan

yeah definitely agree the extra weight is worth it!

Sam - where??!! lol
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#1966 12th January 2014, 13:38

Carpet out? That will help! Get it out!

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#1967 12th January 2014, 13:41

Rather go for a massive shit before hand and keep the carpet in Andy lol
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#1968 12th January 2014, 14:14

You need to donate you old satchshift to someone really cool?
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#1969 12th January 2014, 14:46

he wont be having a new one, just swap two small parts.
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#1970 12th January 2014, 15:15

Ahh, I see.
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#1971 12th January 2014, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Sam - where??!! lol

Doors?
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#1972 12th January 2014, 21:36

Is some of Mr Satchell's engineering talents going up front, was recently looking at the rear end suspension.

Rather enjoying going through this progress thread every few months start to finish... To keep my enthusiasm going again.

#1973 14th January 2014, 04:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevie_m

Is some of Mr Satchell's engineering talents going up front, was recently looking at the rear end suspension.

Rather enjoying going through this progress thread every few months start to finish... To keep my enthusiasm going again.

haha lovely

Yeah his work is going into the front end, BE box and some other bits and bobs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam

Doors?

Haha, thought of that.... would rather get a sequential with that sort of money tbh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

You need to donate you old satchshift to someone really cool?

Its just the 2 bars in the engine bay that need changing Alan

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#1974 14th January 2014, 04:19

You experiencing issues with the MA Josh? Or just peace of mind?
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#1975 14th January 2014, 11:02

go back a few pages

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#1976 16th January 2014, 05:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by sje00

You experiencing issues with the MA Josh? Or just peace of mind?

Bit of both. I think ive been unlucky with MA's more than anything else;

1st box I destroyed when driving it home after my clutch decided to throw its dummy out of the pram

2nd box the quaife decided to shit itself (while on the ring to note!!) , wrecked the box and took a chunk out of the gearbox casing too

3rd box destroyed 4th gear which completely mashed the rest of the box

4th box is perfectly fine but the driveshafts have let go
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#1977 18th January 2014, 09:25

Brilliant build pal

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#1978 18th January 2014, 16:00

Fantastic work josh like how your bringing this on another step this year
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#1979 27th January 2014, 02:02

Thanks Tom
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#1980 27th January 2014, 02:24

About time I did a proper update for this instead of just posting up random pictures....Some of these pics I have already posted up.

So.....

First up a cool picture I thought;

The 'boring' but essential maintenance side of the work done while I'm away by my close mate Chris, brother + dad which im so grateful for!

Dad turning over the engine

Sam & Chris

In PFC again, from FCS 2013

Custom coilpack gel badge i've had made up;

I was back in the UK for a couple of weeks over Christmas so spent a few days (AKA as much as the mrs would let me!) up at my garage to get the car ready for its new goodies

As we started

First I put the dials back in after they had a holiday to SPA to rectify a software glitch from the prior custom reprogramming

Both 'pages' all working

Clearly my mrs thought the new set of SuperL's for my road wheels were part of her wardrobe lol

Engine coming out;

Nearly done

All done

Some expensive twisted metal

My MA vts FD Quaife gearbox that is for sale

Front suspension off to a new home

Car ready to go on its holidays

Arrived at its chosen location all safe and sound

Dean sent me a teaser pic;

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#1981 2nd February 2014, 00:14

Quick video (last 5minutes are the best!) from summer 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ2iK...ature=youtu.be
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#1982 16th February 2014, 00:44

New brake pads
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#1983 19th March 2014, 00:48

Few teasers of the cars next upgrades...
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#1984 19th March 2014, 00:52

Very sexy

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#1985 19th March 2014, 01:01

Cheers Jack, exciting times
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#1986 19th March 2014, 09:25

mmmmm satchell front kit!!!!
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#1987 19th March 2014, 17:50

Looks damn nice... if its still down there end of the month I've offered to help Dean holesaw it.. ya know, weight saving an all that hahahaha

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#1988 20th March 2014, 13:02

Just keeps getting better and better!

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#1989 20th March 2014, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexFocusST

mmmmm satchell front kit!!!!

Should help keep the power down from Sandys mega engine

Quote:

Originally Posted by slammed106

Looks damn nice... if its still down there end of the month I've offered to help Dean holesaw it.. ya know, weight saving an all that hahahaha

Judging by the pictures Dean didn't need much help to butcher it up lol!

Good job it's not there any more then by the sounds of it Stew

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Just keeps getting better and better!

Cheers Hez - that's the plan!
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#1990 20th March 2014, 18:17

Soooo coooolll!!!!
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#1991 20th March 2014, 19:16

This is a progress thread! The car looks awesome.
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#1992 20th March 2014, 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Should help keep the power down from Sandys mega engine

As if.... you could do that with a BE gearbox and a diff !!
Come on confess , you want to see more gain from corner weight correction and front end stiffening!!

basically you are aiming at building the badest saxo around !!!!

#1993 22nd March 2014, 05:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

Soooo coooolll!!!!

Haha bling bling isn't it Alan

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntscVTR

This is a progress thread! The car looks awesome.

Cheers mate, should be looking even better shortly

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexFocusST

As if.... you could do that with a BE gearbox and a diff !!
Come on confess , you want to see more gain from corner weight correction and front end stiffening!!

basically you are aiming at building the badest saxo around !!!!

Your not wrong... The engine mount shown in one of the pictures above will help balance the front end out

But what about the rear end?!

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#1994 22nd March 2014, 07:25

I am sure Mr Satchell can help you out there too!!!

Are you going for standard width or wider??
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#1995 22nd March 2014, 09:08

More pictures mate!!!! Moooooooorrrrrrreeeeee nnnnnooooowwww!
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#1996 22nd March 2014, 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexFocusST

I am sure Mr Satchell can help you out there too!!!

Are you going for standard width or wider??

Yes he can

Standard width for now mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

More pictures mate!!!! Moooooooorrrrrrreeeeee nnnnnooooowwww!

Oh go on then Matt...
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#1997 23rd March 2014, 07:37

Looks great so far josh
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#1998 23rd March 2014, 08:25

Looks stunning, is that bracket on the lower arm section(not the lower strut) another lower engine mount?

if so thats a brilliant idea
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#1999 23rd March 2014, 09:54

I love the work Sandy puts into the gear he makes! The fabrication work and thought that goes into each product is mind boggling... And considering these cars are so old, its amazing to think that things are still being developed for them!

More pics when you get them JP. Looks amazing so far.

#2000 23rd March 2014, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexy_gt

Looks great so far josh

Cheers Stew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack-Cooley

Looks stunning, is that bracket on the lower arm section(not the lower strut) another lower engine mount?

if so thats a brilliant idea

Your correct Jack, it's now running on 4 engine mounts. Also slightly different geomatery compared to the standard configuration

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

I love the work Sandy puts into the gear he makes! The fabrication work and thought that goes into each product is mind boggling... And considering these cars are so old, its amazing to think that things are still being developed for them!

More pics when you get them JP. Looks amazing so far.

Cheers Alan - you are correct, it's brilliant that these guys are still investing time and effort to improve the fundamental flaws of the standard equipment on these cars

Sandy does the engines (that's more than enough to keep him busy for the foreseeable future) - I believe he's booked up for approx the next 2 years

Colin (Satchell) & Dave (Vanstone) are the guys that fettle with the chassis along with Sandys input. So I must say a HUGE thanks to Dave & Colin for the chassis work they have done. There's A LOT more than meets the eye in these pictures I have put up so far...

Did you say more pics? I have plenty... Here's another then

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#2001 23rd March 2014, 13:21

Is that a battery box.

I want colins suspension and mount kit, that may be a 2015 investment

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#2002 23rd March 2014, 20:20

I had the pleasure of nosing around this on Wednesday and I was very impressed and was drawn to it for far too long! Love it

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#2003 23rd March 2014, 20:37

If i was within grabbing distance id steal it

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#2004 24th March 2014, 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack-Cooley

Is that a battery box.

I want colins suspension and mount kit, that may be a 2015 investment

Yep, custom made for my lithium ION battery. If you want to get it done in 2015 you better get booked in now, they are busy people!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brendan

I had the pleasure of nosing around this on Wednesday and I was very impressed and was drawn to it for far too long! Love it

Awesome mate, you've seen it more than I have in 2014 lol. Any comments or recommendations?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack-Cooley

If i was within grabbing distance id steal it

haha Jack - sounds like I better get it shipped out to Sydney with me lol
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#2005 24th March 2014, 10:32

How the hell did you get it all the way to the UK anyway and are you originally from the UK?

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#2006 24th March 2014, 13:28

Car looks really good, not the best one in the workshop but not terrible...
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#2007 25th March 2014, 00:34

haha Oli You wish son

Yes Jack im from the UK, my family still live in the UK and my dads / brother help me sort the car during the winter months so when im back in the UK in the summer I can use the car
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#2008 25th March 2014, 00:49

Back where? Where does the car live UK or AUS? Im a little lost

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#2009 25th March 2014, 06:50

Car lives in the UK with Josh's family here, Josh lives in Oz and comes back every now and again to beast around in the car.

You comeing to TRAX this year JP?
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#2010 25th March 2014, 07:47

UK Jack mate. They don't have saxo's over here. Only v8's... Fuel is half the price!!

Oh and to answer your previous question about getting it here (if I wanted to bring it here with me) I've already looked into that, it's only about £1000 each way on the ferry in a container. Takes a couple of months. Genuinely considering bringing it out here for 2015

I don't think the v8's would know what hit them hearing a flat 4 smashing them in the corners AND down the straights lol. It would be worth the £2,000 return trip just to see there faces at track days, or club days as they call them here.

#2011 25th March 2014, 07:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

Car lives in the UK with Josh's family here, Josh lives in Oz and comes back every now and again to beast around in the car.

You comeing to TRAX this year JP?

What date is it Alan? I'll be there if it's on while I'm back 'home' (home will ALWAYS be the UK)

I've got 6 weeks off this year (whoop!) from 12th July - 24th of August

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#2012 25th March 2014, 08:03

Crazy, your living the life then.

My mrs family live over there but they live in the bushes and stuff and dont have tv or phones and stuff and live off the land its odd.

Wheras the ex's family live there too but they live somewhere urban ive forgot the name of the place though, starts with an A

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#2013 25th March 2014, 08:03

Did someone say more pics?

Current condition of the car;
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#2014 25th March 2014, 08:07

Pure car porn.......
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#2015 25th March 2014, 08:08

Beaniesport do some nice work! Would always take mine there for extensive stuff

Trax is normally in september

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#2016 25th March 2014, 08:18

I KNEW you would get the rear setup... And you tried to throw me off the scent lol. So those engine mounts plus the rebuilt scuttle... Does that mean the engine will be lowered and canted to get more airspace for the boddies?

As for trax, I can't remember off the top of my head. Will check in a bit.
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#2017 25th March 2014, 08:54

Some moneys worth, rich over on the oc has just bought the front and rear without the welding work ect.. and thats 3k...

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#2018 25th March 2014, 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assenracing

Pure car porn.......

Cheers mate, I'm really pleased with it so far

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack-Cooley

Beaniesport do some nice work! Would always take mine there for extensive stuff

Trax is normally in september

Satchell engineering fitting the front & rear kit + scuttle, engine mounts, battery box etc etc

Beaniesport are spraying & putting in custom brake lines with a brake bias valve, as the massive (awesome!) travel on the new suspension set up makes the standard brake lines un-workable

Yeah Trax is normally the last weekend in August or first weekend in September

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

I KNEW you would get the rear setup... And you tried to throw me off the scent lol. So those engine mounts plus the rebuilt scuttle... Does that mean the engine will be lowered and canted to get more airspace for the boddies?

As for trax, I can't remember off the top of my head. Will check in a bit.

Hahaha

you should know me better than to do a half job Alan

I can't say about the engine mounts just yet, I'll show you this picture and you can make up your own conclusions...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack-Cooley

Some moneys worth, rich over on the oc has just bought the front and rear without the welding work ect.. and thats 3k...

And that's not including the front & rear dampers, fitting, the BE shafts, the battery box, the engine mounts? And lots of other bits and bobs

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#2019 25th March 2014, 09:31

I see... Very neat work. Looking forward to seeing it all completed!

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#2020 25th March 2014, 11:21

That bulkhead mod looks interesting, has it an added rearwards bulge?

Always wondered if something like that could be done, kind of like an airbox but not quite.

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#2021 25th March 2014, 11:27

has anyone got some indepth info/ reading material on the satchel suspension setup? is it a relatively new design or has it been proven through testing/ track work?

just generally interested really, as obviously somebody has put a great of time and effort into coming up with it
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#2022 25th March 2014, 11:59

Its a fully tested setup with a lot of Colin's experience and design gone into it, properly tested by Satchell test pilot Cyber.

They wouldn't have released it for sale if it wasn't a finished product

The Saxo Rallycar I service for is also down there at the moment having a wide version of the setup.

#2023 25th March 2014, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshpug

Its a fully tested setup with a lot of Colin's experience and design gone into it, properly tested by Satchell test pilot Cyber.

They wouldn't have released it for sale if it wasn't a finished product

The Saxo Rallycar I service for is also down there at the moment having a wide version of the setup.

Hi, this is Dean(cyb3r)

As welshpug says a lot of design on strength has gone into this kit, its is all designed on CAD.

When we first fitted this to my car I have used it both on the road and hard on track hitting every possible curb on the track possible and as fast as needed. This kit is also on a few rally cars which have hit pits hard enough to wrote off wheels and the suspension hasn't been affected in anyway.

My car before having this kit I could do Llandow in about 54 secs. After with all the suspension and obviously have the corrections for the bump steer, camber etc.

We did Llandow testing(videos on YouTube) then we were lapping in 45.9seconds.

Anything more you need to know just post here and I will try and answer best as possible.

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#2024 25th March 2014, 13:30

this setup alone took nearly 9 seconds off your lap times?!?!?

do you have pictures of a completed front setup and further pictures of the rear? what spring rates are used or are these interchangable? have you modified the camber/ track width?
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#2025 25th March 2014, 14:45

Looks awesome. Ahh
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#2026 25th March 2014, 16:10

+1, their is loads of info and pics on a few progress threads on rallye register. It is a relatively new setup for release but has obviously been around for a while during testing. The videos on YouTube are pretty awesome to watch as well.
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#2027 25th March 2014, 16:44

Im kind of lost on whats being done here? Basically a new suspension setup front and rear? At a cost of? Very expensive or JP expensive (if he wants he buys)
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#2028 25th March 2014, 17:51

i was sure you weren't going only for the front kit !!!
can we have more detailed photos of the scuttle cut???
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#2029 25th March 2014, 19:49

Josh, can you give me a pm when you get time mate, about the bloke who did your engine bay the last time around...
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#2030 25th March 2014, 20:47

have a look at the satchell engineering page on FB.

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#2031 25th March 2014, 22:17

Its front and rears!

Suspension alone without welding ect.. is 3k

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#2032 26th March 2014, 03:07

Inc engine mounts for be conv.

#2033 26th March 2014, 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

I see... Very neat work. Looking forward to seeing it all completed!

Cheers Alan.... me too!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshpug

That bulkhead mod looks interesting, has it an added rearwards bulge?

Always wondered if something like that could be done, kind of like an airbox but not quite.

Yes it does... see pictures below...

Quote:

Originally Posted by deano_123

has anyone got some indepth info/ reading material on the satchel suspension setup? is it a relatively new design or has it been proven through testing/ track work?

just generally interested really, as obviously somebody has put a great of time and effort into coming up with it

Hopefully Dean has answered that for you, feel free to PM me if you want any more info

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshpug

The Saxo Rallycar I service for is also down there at the moment having a wide version of the setup.

I watched them testing it from a live stream off Dave's phone all the way to Australia lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by deano_123

this setup alone took nearly 9 seconds off your lap times?!?!?

do you have pictures of a completed front setup and further pictures of the rear? what spring rates are used or are these interchangable? have you modified the camber/ track width?

8 seconds yep, the way Dean's car came past me at castle combe was unbelievable... and i had approx 70bhp more, caught up on the straights, but i was no where near him in the corners - that sold me on how epic this kit is

Track width is optional, spring rates are entirely up to you - Colin can spec up depending on the purpose of application

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prickle

Looks awesome. Ahh

Damn right Prickle, Colin & Dave have done a brilliant job!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

+1, their is loads of info and pics on a few progress threads on rallye register. It is a relatively new setup for release but has obviously been around for a while during testing. The videos on YouTube are pretty awesome to watch as well.

Video's are cool arent they Alan

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Im kind of lost on whats being done here? Basically a new suspension setup front and rear? At a cost of? Very expensive or JP expensive (if he wants he buys)

You get confused far too easy Joe. New front + rear suspension set up and lots, lots more. Look at the pictures....

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexFocusST

i was sure you weren't going only for the front kit !!!
can we have more detailed photos of the scuttle cut???

Haha, as I said to Alan you should all know me better than to do half a job

See pic's of the scuttle above

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bedford126

Josh, can you give me a pm when you get time mate, about the bloke who did your engine bay the last time around...

PM'd you mate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack-Cooley

Its front and rears!

Suspension alone without welding ect.. is 3k

yup yup, theres alot of work that goes into fitting this kit too

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#2034 26th March 2014, 10:14

Man this just get's better and better!

I remember reading your first engine build thread as you were going along and thinking that was epic, this however... Just awesome.
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#2035 26th March 2014, 13:36

That 8 seconds thing...surely that can't all be found just from this kit? I mean teams employ all sorts of crazy stuff and aero to shave off a second or two but 8? Really? Don't wana sound like a hater or doubter here for the sake of it but thats either BS or I haven't looked I to exactly what this kit does....

#2036 26th March 2014, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

That 8 seconds thing...surely that can't all be found just from this kit? I mean teams employ all sorts of crazy stuff and aero to shave off a second or two but 8? Really? Don't wana sound like a hater or doubter here for the sake of it but thats either BS or I haven't looked I to exactly what this kit does....

I'm sure they don't need you to!

#2037 26th March 2014, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

im sure its probably more like 8 seconds on a rally stage, on tarmac round brands 8 seconds would mean i could overtake a btcc car...

without a doubt it is a fanstsic peice of kit and i personally would be there legs in line with my ears to get one if my series would let me run it...

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#2038 26th March 2014, 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

My car before having this kit I could do Llandow in about 54 secs. After with all the suspension and obviously have the corrections for the bump steer, camber etc.

We did Llandow testing(videos on YouTube) then we were lapping in 45.9seconds.

Anything more you need to know just post here and I will try and answer best as possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greyjasper51

im sure its probably more like 8 seconds on a rally stage, on tarmac round brands 8 seconds would mean i could overtake a btcc car...

without a doubt it is a fanstsic peice of kit and i personally would be there legs in line with my ears to get one if my series would let me run it...

Nope, pretty sure that's a track.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Teams spend crazy money shaving seconds off lap times on cars that are already purposely designed to race.

Turning a hot hatch into a race car is different, which is why massive improvements can be made.
I use the term race car loosely!

I remember first seeing pictures of this car under a tent made of ladders getting painted. It's come a long way since then but as others have said it was still epic back then!

Awesome car.

#2039 26th March 2014, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

You clearly need to study more

I would look into FWD tuning, Colin is not someone to BS to sell products, not in his interest to do that. Colin doesn't just make this stuff, he uses it on his own race cars.

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#2040 26th March 2014, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Don't wana sound like a hater or doubter here for the sake of it but thats either BS or I haven't looked I to exactly what this kit does....

From your previous form, I'm happy to say that it's the second one.

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#2041 26th March 2014, 22:40

You clearly haven't looked into it then Joe... Have a read, then you will

A) understand
B) be impressed

Feel free to post again with an educated post. I got board of forum dribble years ago

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#2042 26th March 2014, 23:26

Such an epic build this, that suspension looks awesome!
Is the car road legal or purely track?
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#2043 27th March 2014, 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh11490

Such an epic build this, that suspension looks awesome!
Is the car road legal or purely track?

Car is road legal mate
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#2044 27th March 2014, 06:03

Looking epic as always mate

Car should seriously fly now.

#2045 27th March 2014, 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

You clearly haven't looked into it then Joe... Have a read, then you will

A) understand
B) be impressed

Feel free to post again with an educated post. I got board of forum dribble years ago

I just can't understand how a suspension upgrade alone is enough to knock 9 seconds off a lap of a short circuit. If you said your car was 9 seconds quicker compared to a standard saxo then yeah that would make sense but what your all saying is that you can whack this on a standard saxo and it will lap Nurburgring a minute quicker thsn a car with standard suspension. If that was the case then all the people who spent thousands on turbos for their saxo's have wasted their time as a simple suspension change was what they needed...

#2046 27th March 2014, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

not sure if srs...

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#2047 27th March 2014, 11:26

jesus christ... :/
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#2048 27th March 2014, 12:01

Lol Ross.

Joe - use your eyes, there's MUCH more than just the suspension to this kit
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#2049 27th March 2014, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Lol Ross.

Joe - use your eyes, there's MUCH more than just the suspension to this kit

what else is done that we cant see? i tried getting hold of dean but i got a feeling hes a busy bloke... obviously the front turret braces and top mount brace, anything else under the back? wishbones are changed as well, wishbone mounting points i assume as well... steering rack height? or is that done on the legs?
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#2050 27th March 2014, 12:12

Awesome build thread, i've been on here since 06 and this is the first time ive been through this, what a transformation!

Seen the pictures of that rear suspension set-up on facebook on satchells facebook, some bit of kit that! guys a genius!

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#2051 27th March 2014, 12:49

Put simply joe, hell yes.

I watched colin and paul sprint their 272 bhp 205 at llandow, they were only a few seconds down on a 650 bhp 4x4 puma cosworth over a lap and a half.
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#2052 27th March 2014, 13:23

I think pretty much the same as greyjasper, from all the kits I've seen it certainly looks like a good piece of kit that clearly does the job, maybe 9 seconds a lap is a bit on the hopeful side for most people but I'm not really sure that matters to be honest.

If you want to go quicker and put proper suspension on the car its the only option really. Sticking some coilovers and hefty rear bars on a standard chassis can only do so much.

Joes amazed theres no b8's :O

JP is this going to FCS this year?

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#2053 27th March 2014, 13:44

Jp just get some proof asap to keep everyone happy

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#2054 27th March 2014, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

It's hardly a simple suspension change though joe

#2055 27th March 2014, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

I also guarantee that a turbo'd saxo with "thousands spent" would lap the ring a with more than a minutes difference to a standard saxo...

It's about having the total package if you're focused on track performance. Not JUST engine, or JUST suspension...

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#2056 27th March 2014, 18:46

Actual LOL at this thread....

Lovin the work (as you already know JP)

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#2057 27th March 2014, 20:13

Stu - you could charge people to look at your suspension as we all know it's just an antique now anyway

Can't wait to see finished product and get a passenger ride

#2058 28th March 2014, 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by greyjasper51

what else is done that we cant see? i tried getting hold of dean but i got a feeling hes a busy bloke... obviously the front turret braces and top mount brace, anything else under the back? wishbones are changed as well, wishbone mounting points i assume as well... steering rack height? or is that done on the legs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom5190

I think pretty much the same as greyjasper, from all the kits I've seen it certainly looks like a good piece of kit that clearly does the job, maybe 9 seconds a lap is a bit on the hopeful side for most people but I'm not really sure that matters to be honest.

If you want to go quicker and put proper suspension on the car its the only option really. Sticking some coilovers and hefty rear bars on a standard chassis can only do so much.

Joes amazed theres no b8's :O

JP is this going to FCS this year?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack-Cooley

Jp just get some proof asap to keep everyone happy

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A quote taken directly from the thread on 106RR, written by Sandy. Its all available info youve just got to go and find it

"Anyone who tried to properly develop the front suspension on their 106, will know that before long you hit a number of brick walls. While the standard set up responds reasonably well to lowering and careful spring and damper choice; once you start running grippy tyres and decent power, things quickly go awry and the magic of the chassis in near standard form gives way to unruly behaviour on smooth surfaces, descending in a serious loss of overall performance on poor surfaces. The front relies on the back doing it's work well to a great extent, the chassis needs to be taken as a whole; but I'll tackle the front end here and write about the back separately.

Most serious 106/Saxos run BE boxes these days, unless rules dictate the MA must be retained, so the basis of any redesign might as well be worked with the BE and retro-adapted to MA. The location of the engine and box comes into the equation too and ordinary BE conversions, using the normal upper engine mount, will position the gearbox incorrectly in truth, slightly offset and low; so new engine mounts to correctly locate the engine/box assembly and equalise shaft length are needed with a proper torque mount location at the back, to overcome the problems common with the Peugeot Sport style rose jointed link and/or the standard mount that is weak. Also we found we needed to hollow the chassis leg slightly above the gearbox to make room for the correct location.

Being able to run the bigger shafts/CV joints from bigger PSA cars, greatly strengthens the drivetrain and likewise the bigger bearing hubs are preferable.

Getting improved damper travel is of great importance, it enables tarmac cars to run low with decent suspension travel and gives alot more absorbtion on forest rally cars. The top mount design and the availability of good, affordable damper inserts largely dictate the travel that can be achieved. Tarmac/circuit 106s usually end up running over-hard to solve the damper problem, but give away alot of grip and traction as a result; a much better compromise is sought!

Spring length is also a problem and again the top mounts have a part to play, complicated multi-way adjustable top mounts that fit under the inner wing, are popular but shot through with compromises on damper/spring length and pivot location (which affects roll centre migration), that most people seem blissfully unaware of when they buy them. The steering arm position also affects the spring length, due to being high on the strut body.

The steering arm itself is fine at normal ride height, but distorts easily with hard use (as does the rod end), the bump steer goes walkabout when it's run lower and the ackerman angle is generally accepted without question.

The hub carriers themselves aren't really a problem, but to solve alot of the broader problems and easily accommodate bigger bearings/hubs, the carrier from other models can do the job better. Being able to ditch the lower pivot pinch clamp design, greatly adds strength and enables the roll centre migration to be much improved at low ride height. Switching to a traditional two bolt strut mount, enables easy camber adjustment in situ.

The standard lower arms are too flexible, don't offer very good geometry and have a weak outer joint. We decided to replace them with a similar design to our long proven and highly developed 205 tubular fabricated lower arms, with large spherical joints, properly aligned with the forces involved, so there's no designed in weakness, from shear or bending loads on threads! It consists of a lateral arm, with a large outer bearing housing and a compression strut component, connected to the lateral arm in a clevis style. The rear mount is re-designed to widen the load base and be less inclined to tear out of the floor!

Managing the mounting point loads is very important, perfect geometry is no use if it wanders under load. Putting more strength into the mounts requires bracing at the bottom and reinforcement plates at the top. More strength can be added with vertical pillars.

We've worked out, mocked up, designed, CNC'd and laser cut most of the components already and the first complete set up should be finished soon. Once we know it's right, works and is easy to fit, it's likely to be available as a complete kit. Here are some pics from the processes so far:

CNC lathe turning top mounts:

Top mount with spherical joint and sleeves for Bilstein insert, before drilling:

Bare top mounts drilled and ready for coating:

Comparing lower brace prototype to computer our model:

Upper engine mount, designed to clear 16v belt covers easily and uses a small rubber bush for minimal movement:

Complete gearbox mount in bare form, chassis leg relief also visible:

Credit mostly to Colin Satchell and Dave Vanstone!"

And a quote from Dave

"To clarify the complete kit comes with as follows
Both wishbones with joints
Compression struts with joints
Wide washers (lower joint failsafe)
Comp strut floor clevis
Strut bodies with eccentric camber adjustment bolts
307 hubs with new bearings
Lower ball joint adaptors
Spring platforms and locking collars
Spring top caps
2 custom C-spanners
Top mounts with bearing and sleeve nuts
Strut top stiffeners with strut brace brackets
Upper strut brace
Lower strut brace
Inner wing stiffening tubes and swaged gusset webs
CDS track rods with inner and outer spherical joints and spacers for bump steer correction
Strengthening plates to go the nut side of the rear clevis (footwell)
All required spacers, fixtures fittings and bolts"

This DOESNT include the BE mounting kit^^

And a link for the full thread;

http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2...ad.php?t=86237

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#2059 29th March 2014, 08:10

8+ seconds off lap times does sound like too good to be true ,

but when you go through all the details of this kit and what geometry settings actually do to a car and also take into account that big names like Sandy and Colin back these figures up as they where the ones testing it ... well lets just say I personally am saving up

Would have liked to have this kit now before i finish my car , but preferred to run it as is for now and upgrade to it later on !
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#2060 29th March 2014, 09:31

I could be wrong but im sure iirc it was 3 seconds a lap quicker from what I had read on 106rr.
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#2061 29th March 2014, 10:22

What I have listed above is just the front kit. Ontop of the there is the BE mounting kit, along with the rear suspension kit (listed below)

Again quote taken from Dave/Colin

"The kit comes with:

Two rockers,
New bearings + nuts,
Rocker conversion brackets/spigots,
Tie rod/rear subframe brace with shock clevis and boot floor washer,
Solid axle mounts (these MUST be fitted),
LH/RH push rods,
All rose joints,
Shock and rose joint top hats/spacers
Tapered spacer for lower push rod connection,
Two rear suspension kit rocker braces.
All bolts, spacers, fixtures and fittings."

Link for the full thread about the rear set up

http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2...ad.php?t=90227

#2062 29th March 2014, 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexFocusST

8+ seconds off lap times does sound like too good to be true ,

but when you go through all the details of this kit and what geometry settings actually do to a car and also take into account that big names like Sandy and Colin back these figures up as they where the ones testing it ... well lets just say I personally am saving up

Would have liked to have this kit now before i finish my car , but preferred to run it as is for now and upgrade to it later on !

I wouldn't focus on the specific gain. The fact it's a gain is the most important thing

yes get saving and get in the long que ASAP

#2063 29th March 2014, 11:28

For the Doubters:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyb3r

I set out first while Dave and Colin watched on. I started by putting in a 50 sec lap on a wet track, thats already 6 secs off my fastest previous time in the wet. So we adjusted the rear dampers as the rear was bouncy under braking down the straights and unstable in the corner. Then Colin had ago and straight away put in a low 48. I wasnt having that so...

As i got the feel for it the time started to fall off, first half a second then seconds, as the day went on the track started to dry out, With the rear sorted out it was time to put in some times,

By 3pm we had decided we could even rinse another 100th of a second out of it so we loaded up and went home.

The Fastest time was 47.27 and there was only 0.01 of a second between us.

All in All a very successful day testing and the Satchel chassis has knocked over 8 seconds off my time around Llandow, Anyone that buys this kit will not be disappointed, the grip levels are just unreal!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGgerDave

Just to add, everything on the car is the same, same engine, same tyres and weather, although this time it has a higher ratio diff. I never drove the car, but it was a complaint of both Dean's and Colin's that the gearing was too high; good news getting those times even with the ratios being incorrect.

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#2064 29th March 2014, 12:57

How much?
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#2065 29th March 2014, 17:13

circa £2k up front and £800 on the rear and £400 for the BE conversion mountings, but best to PM them on Facebook to be sure.

You'll need to buy the dampers too.
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#2067 30th March 2014, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshpug

circa £2k up front and £800 on the rear and £400 for the BE conversion mountings, but best to PM them on Facebook to be sure.

You'll need to buy the dampers too.

Yep thats about right, plus;

Fitting costs
Dampers
Driveshafts

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Rear dampers approx £600-£750 depending on choice
Rear springs £50
Front dampers £400 for bilstein.
Front Springs £50
4 x helper springs approx £70

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#2068 30th March 2014, 16:28

Are you having custom shafts made by colin too josh to go with the BE mounts? If so how much?

I so need to save up for this setup.
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#2069 30th March 2014, 17:26

Waste of money when b8's and a lower brace turn you in to senna anyway

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#2070 31st March 2014, 06:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweeqd

Waste of money when b8's and a lower brace turn you in to senna anyway

Lo0o0o0o0o0ol!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Are you having custom shafts made by colin too josh to go with the BE mounts? If so how much?

I so need to save up for this setup.

Yes.you.do! Shafts have already been done yeah

I think they only do the shafts as part of the kit, if you want them separate you'll have to speak to Colin, I cant remember the exact cost of each component mate
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#2071 31st March 2014, 07:21

thicker hubs... i saw it mentioned 307 hubs, do these fit the MA shafts? only im restricted to an MA box and thicker more durable shafts and hubs will be one of the next things on the todo list after brakes... getting ready for the next step watch this space (it will be at the end of the year, fingers crossed itll have the same make me wet appeal as the suspension )
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#2072 31st March 2014, 07:35

I have colin kit and still have an MA box Colin is making my shaft also.
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#2073 31st March 2014, 08:20

Did the last one get stuck in tweeqds rectum?
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#2074 31st March 2014, 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

I have colin kit and still have an MA box Colin is making my shaft also.

this is a posibility that i shall be looking further into
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#2075 31st March 2014, 09:18

You can get BE inner & MA outer shafts mate
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#2076 31st March 2014, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

You can get BE inner & MA outer shafts mate

basically i need MA both ends and BE shafts...
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#2077 31st March 2014, 11:08

Yep, Colin can supply (as Andysaxo said above)
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#2078 31st March 2014, 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by greyjasper51

basically i need MA both ends and BE shafts...

it can be done pretty easy i think ... just a matter of shortening the shafts and fitting to the 106/saxo hubs

i have a pair of 307 original shafts that where on a 1.6 16v petrol with MA gearbox want a photo and measurements for comparison???

#2079 31st March 2014, 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexFocusST

it can be done pretty easy i think ... just a matter of shortening the shafts and fitting to the 106/saxo hubs

i have a pair of 307 original shafts that where on a 1.6 16v petrol with MA gearbox want a photo and measurements for comparison???

yes please

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#2080 1st April 2014, 09:32

New pictures?

Oh go on then

+ LOTS and LOTS of prep by beaniesport

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#2081 1st April 2014, 09:52

Definitely Saxp's most painted engine bay by now ;-) looks great mate, time for goodies to go on then.
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#2082 1st April 2014, 11:53

That looks ace!
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#2083 1st April 2014, 13:14

So who fitted the Satchell parts??
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#2084 1st April 2014, 13:42

This car somehow gets better every time I come back and read your thread. Really nice mate, loving the progress
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#2085 1st April 2014, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by willsy

Definitely Saxp's most painted engine bay by now ;-) looks great mate, time for goodies to go on then.

Haha Matt, your probably right... Yes goodies now, starting with the brake lines this week

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

That looks ace!

Cheers Joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by sje00

So who fitted the Satchell parts??

David Vanstone

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNewham

This car somehow gets better every time I come back and read your thread. Really nice mate, loving the progress

Cheers for the kind words Scott(?) I remember that Coventry meet in your little 1.0/1.1 8v track prepped and lowered car, that's one that always stood out to me

#2086 1st April 2014, 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Cheers for the kind words Scott(?) I remember that Coventry meet in your little 1.0/1.1 8v track prepped and lowered car, that's one that always stood out to me

Yeh that was me haha, that little beast got written off by some OAP picking up their pension check. Gone german now

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#2087 1st April 2014, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

Did the last one get stuck in tweeqds rectum?

Always arse reference, must be from your time at camp with "the boys"
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#2088 1st April 2014, 21:53

You have a Citroen Ax you aren't qualified to provide humour.
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#2089 1st April 2014, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

You have a Citroen Ax you aren't qualified to provide humour.

And a pink 106 does qualify?!?

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#2090 2nd April 2014, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNewham

Yeh that was me haha, that little beast got written off by some OAP picking up their pension check. Gone german now

Oh man that sucks Scott, loved that motor of yours

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe

Looks very nice josh,
Can I ask why you had you stuff that was fitted by ma motorsport removed from the engine bay?

Thanks Joe

Few reasons really, the passengers side had to be removed to fit the gearbox mount. So we removed the drivers side to match

Also It wasn't sealed so basically meant the chassis rails could easily get water in and rust from the inside outwards. Whilst removing we also found a rather large amount of sealer had been used instead of welds lol. Plus the weight saving of course
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#2091 3rd April 2014, 00:39

Wow josh looks great. I am amazed how you can coordinate this even from oz. you must be spending some dosh!

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#2092 3rd April 2014, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Wow josh looks great. I am amazed how you can coordinate this even from oz. you must be spending some dosh!

Haha Lewis, coordinating the project from the opposit side of the world is a task in itself mate trust me!

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Beaniesport cracking on with getting it back together now
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#2093 3rd April 2014, 10:53

Looks absolutely fantastic mate really. What was the damage to the wallet for the full front suspension set up? You've gone for the rear too right? I need to talk to beanie about possible storage of my rallye as I'm buying a house but can't find one with a garage currently but do not want to sell it! :-/

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#2094 4th April 2014, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Looks absolutely fantastic mate really. What was the damage to the wallet for the full front suspension set up? You've gone for the rear too right? I need to talk to beanie about possible storage of my rallye as I'm buying a house but can't find one with a garage currently but do not want to sell it! :-/

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Get a council garage ;-)

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#2095 5th April 2014, 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGregg

Get a council garage ;-)

That is a possibility but they are tiny and insecure and no power!

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#2096 5th April 2014, 05:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Just finish it Lewis FFS

lol!

Yes front & rear set up.... Front is £2k (excluding BE mountings, shafts etc) + fitting + dampers

Storage you know where if your stuck

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#2097 5th April 2014, 13:37

This is going to be one of the best equipped saxos out there?

Any plans for anything else after suspension? If theres anything else could do to it. Just needs a turbo next imo hahaha
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#2098 5th April 2014, 17:00

*cough*

SADEV

*COUGH*

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#2099 5th April 2014, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Just finish it Lewis FFS

lol!

Yes front & rear set up.... Front is £2k (excluding BE mountings, shafts etc) + fitting + dampers

Storage you know where if your stuck

Will be amazing mate I'd like a blast in it when I next see you if possible! Best saxo out there

Thanks for your offer again mate that's super kind of you. I will let you know what happens! We just got a little place but no garage as expected so I will see what I can find storage wise in the meantime.

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#2100 5th April 2014, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

That is a possibility but they are tiny and insecure and no power!

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I've pretty much built my rally car in my council garage, stop making excuses and get it finished!

#2101 6th April 2014, 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

This is going to be one of the best equipped saxos out there?

Any plans for anything else after suspension? If theres anything else could do to it. Just needs a turbo next imo hahaha

Got a few plans in the pipeline for the future. Like you say... There isnt much to do to it now. Certainly not putting the cheating snail on it lol

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Originally Posted by slammed106

*cough*

SADEV

*COUGH*

Don't tempt me Stuart, I'm tempted enough myself lol. BE should keep me happy for another few years

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Will be amazing mate I'd like a blast in it when I next see you if possible! Best saxo out there

Cheers Lewis, means a lot coming from someone that has a mint 106 such as yours

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGregg

I've pretty much built my rally car in my council garage, stop making excuses and get it finished!

Pics then

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#2102 6th April 2014, 20:17

*ahem* http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=421862
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#2103 8th April 2014, 23:13

Dude any photos of your tail pipe?

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#2104 9th April 2014, 06:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewisimo

Dude any photos of your tail pipe?

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Woah, steady on! That sort of stuff should be kept to pm
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#2105 9th April 2014, 08:17

Lol Chris

Lewis - you asking me or Simon?
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#2106 10th April 2014, 10:52

Hahaha.... Josh, your tail pipe!

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#2107 10th April 2014, 15:05

Not been made yet me old fruit. That's the next job once my parents & brother return to the UK from there trip to Sydney it won't be anything flash, I prefer subtle

Custom brake lines now done;

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#2108 16th April 2014, 20:13

Car looks amazing. Love the added engine mounts and the Satchell setup.

In car Bias valve worth fitting? As i know with the rear brake bias valve need adjusting when the rear has been lowered as it can be quite "interesting".
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#2109 17th April 2014, 19:11

Engine wise this car is probably one of the best out there unless Sandy has built a few more evolutions of them

I'll have to get some pics of the rally car I service for, its just been in Colins workshop for the widest setup they've done so far...

No SB engine yet, but clicky box is in there

#2110 18th April 2014, 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshpug

Engine wise this car is probably one of the best out there unless Sandy has built a few more evolutions of them

I'll have to get some pics of the rally car I service for, its just been in Colins workshop for the widest setup they've done so far...

No SB engine yet, but clicky box is in there

That's not the red and white one that's knocking about up North is it by any chance?

#2111 18th April 2014, 05:37

There's 4-5 engines of similar spec to mine that I know of.

Originally there was mine & one in Ireland built at a similar time. There's one being built currently, and another 1 in a 106 rally car. Will Diclaudio's is also similar spec too I believe

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdoddyx

Car looks amazing. Love the added engine mounts and the Satchell setup.

In car Bias valve worth fitting? As i know with the rear brake bias valve need adjusting when the rear has been lowered as it can be quite "interesting".

Yes it's definitely worth fitting, the standard mechanical one I had would always seize up over time, plus I don't think the standard unit would work correctly with the new rear suspension set up I now have

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#2112 9th June 2014, 05:43

Update 09/06/14

Engine bay sprayed & front end put back in

Engine in;

Rad & power steering etc in;

Exhaust modified to suit the new set up;

Engine back out to get the gearbox etc all finished off;

Gearbox research for hours and hours on service-box

Second set of SuperL's + a spare sand blasted ready for powdercoating
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#2113 9th June 2014, 07:59

^ looking Goooooooood!!!

When are we having a video update???
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#2114 9th June 2014, 08:37

Awesome build, attention to detail is incredible
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#2115 9th June 2014, 16:59

Ducking awesome
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#2116 9th June 2014, 17:06

Sweet as!!

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#2117 9th June 2014, 22:45

Brilliant! The effort put into this is unreal.

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#2118 10th June 2014, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexFocusST

^ looking Goooooooood!!!

When are we having a video update???

Just building up the BE box mate. Lots of other bits and bobs to sort out which I am in the process of doing as we speak. May be a start up video end of July is the plan

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Originally Posted by deano_123

Awesome build, attention to detail is incredible

Cheers matey. Satchels kit really is immensely well thought out, and ALOT more than meets the eye in these pictures.

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Originally Posted by BIG

Ducking awesome

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Originally Posted by Alanapone

Sweet as!!

will you be coming to see us while im back Alan?

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Originally Posted by -Chris-

Brilliant! The effort put into this is unreal

Im glad its noticed, its taken alot out of me over the last 6 months to be honest. Its hard trying to co-ordinate things from the otherside of the world. I'll be glad to just getting back to sorting out 'bits and bobs' instead of massive upgrades from now on

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#2119 10th June 2014, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

will you be coming to see us while I'm back Alan?

Fingers crossed I might get a Saturday where I can have a drive down and see you. You far from Alex and Lea's place?

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#2120 13th June 2014, 04:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanapone

Fingers crossed I might get a Saturday where I can have a drive down and see you. You far from Alex and Lea's place?

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Yeah 15mins from Lea & Alex's. Fancy the RR day on the 10th of August?

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#2121 13th June 2014, 06:23

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Yeah 15mins from Lea & Alex's. Fancy the RR day on the 10th of August?

I'll try and get down for that. Don't think I'll run, it depends on money and the car a bit nearer the time.

I'll stick it in our calender now so I don't forget.
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#2122 15th July 2014, 11:57

Excellent work josh. Even though you aren't actually doing any of the spanner work yourself you lazy bastard!

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#2123 17th July 2014, 23:25

Hey Lewis, at Least his gets to a state to be used, i'd say finished but they never are! Haha

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#2124 5th September 2014, 12:38

Hi Chaps...

Heres a couple of videos of our 2014 ring trip

8:34 BTG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJsrg3FcAsA

And a lap with Porsches getting in the way as normal!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKLdlxjG4g

Enjoy!

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#2125 5th September 2014, 18:58

Looks great, what was the decision for the backbox running along the bumper?
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#2126 6th September 2014, 18:16

I thought it was designed to fit a standard type exhaust?
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#2127 7th September 2014, 02:55

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Originally Posted by edbar1

Looks great, what was the decision for the backbox running along the bumper?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe

I think it's because of the satchell rear suspension takes up the space where a normal back box goes

Correct

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Originally Posted by edbar1

I thought it was designed to fit a standard type exhaust?

The dampers run horizontal, so the exhaust has to pass through the middle of the boot floor, below the central pivot point for the dampers
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#2128 7th September 2014, 11:34

Looks like it goes well at the ring! But how fast was that Focus RS at the beginning?!

The suspension looks amazing. Hardly heard any tyre squeel at all on the corners you would usually expect it and only one instance of understeer. Real talk though and money aside was it worth it for the cost?
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#2129 8th September 2014, 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Correct

The dampers run horizontal, so the exhaust has to pass through the middle of the boot floor, below the central pivot point for the dampers

I see, just seems a shame to compromise the exhaust but is uppose the only way around it would be internal fuel tank...
Looks great
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#2130 8th September 2014, 08:35

its not a compromise, its a simple solution to an obstacle created by improving the suspension by vast amounts.

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#2131 8th September 2014, 22:47

Yes and in doing so you are going for a less than perfect path of the exhaust.... so it is a compromise.
I'm not slating it or the car in any way I was curious to the reason that is all.

#2132 9th September 2014, 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by edbar

I see, just seems a shame to compromise the exhaust but is uppose the only way around it would be internal fuel tank...
Looks great

Quote:

Originally Posted by edbar1

Yes and in doing so you are going for a less than perfect path of the exhaust.... so it is a compromise.
I'm not slating it or the car in any way I was curious to the reason that is all.

is there a reason you are posting with two different accounts ?

footage looks awesome JP !!!

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#2133 9th September 2014, 10:28

Yes my dear because my new account is edbar1
My old one which I no longer use the email address with is edbar
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#2134 9th September 2014, 10:39

And sometimes I automatically type my username without the 1 as that's what it is everywhere else
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#2135 11th September 2014, 02:17

Cheers guys

There's certainly more lap time to come off that, I'm confident we can get down to 8:20 ish

Edbar1 the only "compromise" is the each 1-2kg of weight from the exhaust. It doesn't effect power in any way. In fact id go as far as saying it's better now as we have been able to put a larger back box on it so no worries about noise levels now at all.

The suspension kit is epic, to the point where I'm taking corners a gear higher now due to the apex speed being so much more than before. Which is obviously down to having much more grip.
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#2136 11th September 2014, 11:35

That is a comment sandy has made iirc, many cars running his engines no longer use very short final drives as they have enough grunt and more often than not coupled with a very well setup chassis
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#2137 11th September 2014, 17:28

You can use the push rod rear with a Pug Sport if you so wish.
However, Mr Preston has a custom designed exhaust which suits both the engine and chassis set-up.

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#2138 15th May 2015, 23:24

Whatever happened to this?
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#2139 6th June 2015, 00:02

It's still progressing Joe...
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#2140 6th June 2015, 16:41

Just without pictures
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#2141 26th June 2015, 00:31

At Joe's request...

Winter updates...

PFC expo...

New rear beam

My alternator gave up the ghost in the Swiss alps last summer so we replaced that for a brand new one

Main upgrade over winter was to upgrade to AP racing brakes

This set up included a custom made "Spacer-Bell" that Satchell Engineering did an awesome job in making for me. This means my front wheels are now a direct fit, and dont require the need to run spacers so means less rotational mass.

MOT time; so shes now ready to rock and roll for another summer

One last thing;

I thought i'd chuck up a quick picture of my daily drives here in Australia. The Honda CR-V sport bus, and my John Cooper Works mini which gives the Holden v8's a good run for there money over here

I'll try and keep this up to date over the summer while im back in the UK. Cheers!

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#2142 26th June 2015, 15:07

Finally! Mini looks cool! You gonna bring it back to the UK?
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#2143 27th June 2015, 18:51

No mate, the mini will stay over here. As a daily drive it's got more than enough grunt, and all the creature comforts (including heated seats, no idea why you'd need them in Aus!).

I've had the mini for just over a year now
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#2144 27th June 2015, 19:12

Is it much slower with the turbo removed?
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#2145 27th June 2015, 19:56

Good to see the Saxo going strong josh.

Hope all is well over there, and the family are cool.
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#2146 29th June 2015, 10:15

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Originally Posted by Ross

Is it much slower with the turbo removed?

Its amazing Sandy can build an NA engine with more power than bmw can build one with a turbo isnt it lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushy_23

Good to see the Saxo going strong josh.

Hope all is well over there, and the family are cool.

Yes all going well thanks pal. Are you still in the middle east Rush?

Yep saxo is still going strong, still enjoying it (apart from the clutch!) lol
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#2147 12th July 2015, 08:50

What are you plans for this years visit Josh. I'm going to make more effort to come for a visit this time. I'll even drag Sam down if he isn't working lol.
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#2148 13th July 2015, 18:50

those bells are awesome!

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#2149 14th July 2015, 11:20

first plan is to get the braided fuel lines fitted Alan. After that I need to go down to Satchell & Sandy for a day each to get the chassis & engine checked over.

Then the plan is a track day end of July & lots of road miles before the ring tip middle of August
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#2150 14th July 2015, 20:02

Sounds good buddy. Keep me up to speed with any plans I may be able to tag on to. I'll make a concerted effort to come down for a catch up this year.
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#2151 22nd July 2015, 10:46

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Yes all going well thanks pal. Are you still in the middle east Rush?

Yep saxo is still going strong, still enjoying it (apart from the clutch!) lol

Good stuff, no left Saudi couple of years ago now. I've only just managed to re-acclimatise back to the UK lifestyle (not sure if that even is a word).

I managed to find the comments on FB in regards to the brake upgrades. You say these things squeeze under your 15's? Mental.

Im suprised DannyGTI's setup fits under his 15's as his brakes are huge too.

Both very nice setup's

I again went back to Wilwood for my EK9 brakes, in two minds what to do with them though as I hear the standard 9 brakes are really good. So may sell for now then invest in an upgrade later on if I feel the need.
The 9 is by no means as mental as yours or Danny's car.

How long are you in the UK for? I wonder if I can rope the guys into a weekend catchup. Has been ages.
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#2152 22nd July 2015, 11:22

what size disc have you got there? a friend has a 310mm disc with a Renaultsport brembo caliper under a 6x15 compomotive mo and a 10mm spacer, I think they would fit under a 7" wheel without a spacer! just...

#2153 25th July 2015, 07:51

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Originally Posted by Alanapone

Sounds good buddy. Keep me up to speed with any plans I may be able to tag on to. I'll make a concerted effort to come down for a catch up this year.

Definitely sounds like a plan Alan, I should be doing a track day in a week or 2 weeks time if you fancy it...

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

Good stuff, no left Saudi couple of years ago now. I've only just managed to re-acclimatise back to the UK lifestyle (not sure if that even is a word).

I managed to find the comments on FB in regards to the brake upgrades. You say these things squeeze under your 15's? Mental.

Im suprised DannyGTI's setup fits under his 15's as his brakes are huge too.

Both very nice setup's

I again went back to Wilwood for my EK9 brakes, in two minds what to do with them though as I hear the standard 9 brakes are really good. So may sell for now then invest in an upgrade later on if I feel the need.
The 9 is by no means as mental as yours or Danny's car.

How long are you in the UK for? I wonder if I can rope the guys into a weekend catchup. Has been ages.

Yeah I know what you mean by getting back used to things again Rush, it would take me a while to jump back into the UK life style after being used to it being sunny and warm almost every day and all year round in Aus.

Those Facebook comments made me laugh tbh, people went way over the top and took it personally/too serious.

I'm back until the end of August... Definitely keen for a catch up if you can sort something, let me know.

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Originally Posted by welshpug

what size disc have you got there? a friend has a 310mm disc with a Renaultsport brembo caliper under a 6x15 compomotive mo and a 10mm spacer, I think they would fit under a 7" wheel without a spacer! just...

It's not the disc size so much, it's the size of the calipers, they are huge! I wouldn't be surprised if these brakes will make rear wheels come off the ground haha

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#2154 25th July 2015, 17:45

The amount of work gone into this car since the first time I seen it is unreal love the fact the tints stayed
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#2155 25th July 2015, 19:20

Yeah, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
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#2156 27th July 2015, 20:32

Looks great mate can't wait to see it again
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#2157 22nd August 2015, 23:28

Quick snap from a track day at Donington

https://youtu.be/PVSnVme6HZw
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#2158 24th August 2015, 10:09

Just watched the video from your latest ring trip on there, impressive stuff!
looked like the passenger had a sweat on lol. so would i tbf!
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#2159 25th August 2015, 19:05

Haha he did Elliot, he was telling me to slow down lol, he has a 400bhp AX...

You mean this video?

https://youtu.be/kF_qgTjkB_I
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#2160 25th August 2015, 19:25

Epic car pal

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#2161 25th August 2015, 19:49

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#2162 25th August 2015, 20:53

Looks like you had fun at the ring again Josh

You need to include a GPS Speed overlay on the vids so we can see what crazy speeds you are doing around some of those corners.
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#2163 26th August 2015, 07:33

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

Haha he did Elliot, he was telling me to slow down lol, he has a 400bhp AX...

You mean this video?

https://youtu.be/kF_qgTjkB_I

Yeah that's the one dude. kept laughing because every time you put your thumb up to him he was shaking his head, i can imagine the words coming out of his mouth

#2164 30th August 2015, 08:21

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Originally Posted by markxsi

Epic car pal

Thanks mate.

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Originally Posted by GoManGo

Thats a fantastic watch mate,

I have friends with 400+ bhp M3's but to watch you and just to imagine
how utterly fed up they would be if you went passed them makes me
really really smile..

Must be a fantastic feeling and worth all the spanner hours..

Congrats to you Sir..

haha, its great fun upsetting the so called bigger boys mate. Not bad for a 1.6 NA....

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Originally Posted by Sam

Looks like you had fun at the ring again Josh

You need to include a GPS Speed overlay on the vids so we can see what crazy speeds you are doing around some of those corners.

Yeah i'd love to do that, what is the best way to get the overlay? Harry's lap timer?

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Originally Posted by elliotthorwood

Yeah that's the one dude. kept laughing because every time you put your thumb up to him he was shaking his head, i can imagine the words coming out of his mouth

Haha, Martin vowed never to come out with me again after his lap last year, but I managed to persuade him to come out with me again this year, he owns a 400bhp AX, he cant believe how well my chassis is set up and how quickly it goes round corners

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#2165 30th August 2015, 08:40

Harrys laptimer will log the data. Then i use Racerender to combine the data and the gopro video.
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#2166 30th August 2015, 22:29

Perfect - thanks mate!
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#2167 20th September 2015, 21:04

Still can't believe you have this josh looking good tho mate

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#2168 25th February 2016, 22:00

Haven't been on here for months - cheers Craig, couldn't get rid of it mate!!!
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#2169 25th February 2016, 23:10

Needs lowering.
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#2170 9th August 2016, 13:02

8:19 btg Nurburgring lap

https://youtu.be/WaY_64gB0uk

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#2171 8th January 2022, 15:09

pork pie king
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#2172 12th December 2023, 10:10

Jp... whooooo
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#2173 12th December 2023, 10:16

My first post in here for 7 years… wow! Still own the car… dry stored in a UK secret location ��

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#2174 12th December 2023, 15:49

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

My first post in here for 7 years wow! Still own the car dry stored in a UK secret location ��

You mean your brothers secret location?
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#2175 6th January 2024, 17:20

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo

My first post in here for 7 years wow! Still own the car dry stored in a UK secret location ��

Nice you still have it , still got my saxo though my second one from when I first got on saxp . Mine is in Baldyne engineering for complete engine rebuild I went full out on it after fluffing about wasting money in two top end jobs never was quite right oil leaks etc so this time doing it properly not going for power just reliability getting far too old to drive it like I stole it now lol