icv guide on blacktops (early mk1's)

1. 666 Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 east london Posts: 2219 62 fiesta tdci

   #1 3rd April 2009, 18:18

   theres no guide on idal control valve location on blacktops so heres a guide on were to find it
   the other guides are for silver tops and are totaly diffrent
   
   the icv is located
   on the drivers side of the engine below the first inlet port the/injector/sparkplug
   
   you wont be able to see much of the sensor but the 3 wire plug is visible
   also you can follow the vacume pipe that goes from the trottle bodie to the icv
   
   in the first pic the arrow going don points to the icv location, the top arrow shows the vacum pipe that leads to it
   
   
   
   close up pic shows the icv (circled) and i have drawn a arrow to the same vacum hose to help show were the pic was tacken from
   
   
   
   going closer but pics from side of bay heres the sensor(circled)
   
   
   
   this is the closest i can get a pic, the icv is held in place with a large rubber band, undoing the vacum hose from the tb will help get it out
   (wont move if the hose is connected) just unplug the sensor and hose and pull the icv towards the passenger side(you will have to do somme of this by touch as you cant see it propley), then you will be able to follow the last hose back to airbox(mine goes to my raceland) and disconect it
   
   
   
   you dont need to remove anything other than your induction kit/airbox(to get your arm around the inlet manyfold)
   
   make sure that when you remove and refit you havent knocked any vacum pipes lose(theres a small pipe with a t join infront of the inlet manyfold that came of easy on mine) or it will run like shit
   
   hope this helps a few people out as its asked a lot
   
   will be linked to my other guides in the stickys

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2. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #2 8th April 2009, 07:51

   il link it to my ICV guide too mate.
   
   For all other engines that aint black tops, there is this guide or you.
   
   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=174710

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3. 666 Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 east london Posts: 2219 62 fiesta tdci

   #3 8th April 2009, 09:44

   nice one mate
4. turbomadvtr Trouble Maker Joined: Oct 2008 NEWCASTLE Posts: 438 Saxo VTR MK1

   #4 8th April 2009, 16:18

   Thanks for this m8.
   By the way how dont you get oil spraying out of your mini breather filter as when i set mine up like this - it pished out !?!
5. 666 Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 east london Posts: 2219 62 fiesta tdci

   #5 8th April 2009, 17:13

   no prob mate,
   do you have the baffel inside the rocker cover, its a long steel plate it stops the oil hittting the breather

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6. turbomadvtr Trouble Maker Joined: Oct 2008 NEWCASTLE Posts: 438 Saxo VTR MK1

   #6 9th April 2009, 09:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by 666 no prob mate, do you have the baffel inside the rocker cover, its a long steel plate it stops the oil hittting the breather

   Yeah m8 i do , it was fine for a few miles then when i next checked it was all over my engine and the mini breather was soaked with oil , where as yours is clean as a whistle.
   Is it possible ive fitted the baffle plate the wrong way up when ive changed the rocker gasket ?!?!
7. 666 Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 east london Posts: 2219 62 fiesta tdci

   #7 9th April 2009, 11:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by turbomadvtr Yeah m8 i do , it was fine for a few miles then when i next checked it was all over my engine and the mini breather was soaked with oil , where as yours is clean as a whistle. Is it possible ive fitted the baffle plate the wrong way up when ive changed the rocker gasket ?!?!

   its been fine for about 3000miles so far, you could try reitting the baffle, if that dosnt work try changeing the oil filter, the oil filter is what controls oil pressuer, and yours mite be alowing to much oil presuer, oil shouldnt come up the pipe/breather or it will go in to the tb
8. turbomadvtr Trouble Maker Joined: Oct 2008 NEWCASTLE Posts: 438 Saxo VTR MK1

   #8 9th April 2009, 23:40

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by 666 its been fine for about 3000miles so far, you could try reitting the baffle, if that dosnt work try changeing the oil filter, the oil filter is what controls oil pressuer, and yours mite be alowing to much oil presuer, oil shouldnt come up the pipe/breather or it will go in to the tb

   
   I bought a oil catch tank because of it spilling all over and it still ended up spilling out of the can through the filter lol. I have no luck.
   But the pipe was bent over from the rocker, so can a bent pipe from rocker to catch tank cause too much pressure to make it flow out of the catch tank breather filter !?
9. 666 Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 east london Posts: 2219 62 fiesta tdci

   #9 9th April 2009, 23:44

   i wouldnt of fort so mate, i ran mine for a week with no pipe or filter untill the breather arrived and only vapor should come out if oils getting out the top something isnt right thats what made me thing to much presser

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10. turbomadvtr Trouble Maker Joined: Oct 2008 NEWCASTLE Posts: 438 Saxo VTR MK1

    #10 12th April 2009, 11:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 666 i wouldnt of fort so mate, i ran mine for a week with no pipe or filter untill the breather arrived and only vapor should come out if oils getting out the top something isnt right thats what made me thing to much presser

    OMG im such a nub
    
    I put my baffle plate in wrong lol
11. 666 Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 east london Posts: 2219 62 fiesta tdci

    #11 12th April 2009, 11:23

    lmao, glad you sorted it out mate, suprised it made that much diffrence tbh
12. ianyerman Newbie Joined: Jun 2009 banbridge Posts: 15 saxo vtr

    #12 5th July 2009, 01:31

    can here a sound of air sucking in around this location on my blacktop.
    can not find where it is sucking, i know there is a leak somewhere as the idle isnt good. has anyone else had this problem?
13. That-Guy Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 167

    #13 5th July 2009, 13:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ianyerman can here a sound of air sucking in around this location on my blacktop. can not find where it is sucking, i know there is a leak somewhere as the idle isnt good. has anyone else had this problem?

    I have this with my Pug XSI, which I think is pretty much the same engine, but cant seem to find the leak. Mine idles a little lumpy
14. 666 Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 east london Posts: 2219 62 fiesta tdci

    #14 5th July 2009, 14:02

    it will be a vacum leak, theres so many pipes and it only takes a very small split, only way is to remove each pipe and check very closed for probs
15. That-Guy Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 167

    #15 5th July 2009, 14:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 666 it will be a vacum leak, theres so many pipes and it only takes a very small split, only way is to remove each pipe and check very closed for probs

    Oh god
    
    Let the fun begin....
16. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #16 5th July 2009, 14:21

    Get this sticky'd
17. saxodunc Newbie Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1

    #17 21st March 2010, 20:31

    thanks for the useful thread.
    any 1 still got the pics to go with it?
    
    Cheers
18. Grant22 Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 13

    #18 8th November 2010, 18:59

    the pictures aren't coming up. this guide is really useful but can u put the pictures up again it would really help me out cheers.
19. Grant22 Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 13

    #19 8th November 2010, 19:00

    the pictures aren't coming up , this guide is really useful, but could you put the pictures up again it would really help me out. cheers.
20. darael Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 155 1998 Saxo 1.1i

    #20 14th November 2010, 23:55

    
    
    Does anybody have the pictures from the first post?
21. user_48207 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 downpatrick, ireland Posts: 199 saxo vtr mk1 1.5 diesel 106 donor tddi focus

    #21 19th December 2010, 22:33

    any chance of pics ?
22. user_48207 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 downpatrick, ireland Posts: 199 saxo vtr mk1 1.5 diesel 106 donor tddi focus

    #22 21st December 2010, 15:04

    ? no ? anyone ? the part i have found looks nothing like the one on my car ?
    mk1 vtr
23. joer Newbie Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 10

    #23 21st December 2010, 19:16

    Can somone put up some picturees? And whats the best way of cleaning this one? just spray inside the hose bits?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Joe
24. Renouf Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2011 Cwmbran, South Wales Posts: 248 Saxo 1.1

    #24 5th July 2011, 23:34

    Pictures please?
25. Rob-SWFC-Mellor Newbie Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 4

    #25 7th March 2014, 08:59

    lets see if this helps guys a quick rewrite
    
    ok for some reason the blacktop mk1 vtr seems to be hard to find any info on so 1st up thanks to 666 for this shame the pics went down but i figured it from this
    
    step 1, remove your airbox - reason the pipe coming up behind it and into the top section on the right is the return pipe from the ICV
    
    
    
    step 2, locate the icv and connecting wire needs removing do this by finding your map sensor (top left attached to the firewall behind the engine) follow the wire down just behind the first injector and youll see an odd cylinder shape with a yellow connection on it thats your ICV
    
    
    
    step 3, remove the ICV pipe from the throttle body housing, follow the small pipes coming from the map back to the housing, next to them is a fatter pipe this needs to be uinclipped and when you remove the icv youll need to persuade this pipe to move down through the injectors
    
    steps 4, get your hand behind the engine and push the icv accross so it slides of the rubber band its held on by, easiest way i found was to pull the pipe from the airbox end and push the sensor and in 5 mins youll have it off to clean or replace
    
    
    
    thats the offending piece, carb cleaner and earbuds works well if your getting idle issues and random revving up, sucking air like its choking ect this be a good place to begin