VTR Turbo - Cost ?

1. big_prop_24 Newbie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4

   #1 1st June 2009, 10:51

   Hi Guys !
   
   This is my first post so sorry if i make any newbie mistakes !
   
   Basically i will be purchasing a VTR from a mates GF in about a month ( Once she has got a new car ) its a P reg which i believe is the mark 1 90 bhp model.
   
   Due to once owning a 2.0 Corsa Redtop running 185bhp i need more power !
   
   I have been looking into all the power gains and are drawn by either VTS conversion or putting a turbo on the VTR.
   
   I would prefer the turbo as its more fun but i don't have the biggest pocket in the world !
   
   Reading around on the forum i can see there companies which do it but prices are very high!
   
   Basically wanted to know what is the best price i could get all parts for and if someone is able to do it for me as i have never worked with turbos before ?
   
   Thanks in advance
   
   Liam
2. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

   #2 1st June 2009, 10:55

   I'm not 100% sure but probably about £2000+
   
   Its cheaper to go faster in a Vauxhall imo.
3. big_prop_24 Newbie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4

   #3 1st June 2009, 10:59

   Yea thats the kind of price i have been seeing.
   
   Theres a Kit on piston heads parts section for £2000. But still a case of getting it fitted !
   
   I'm hoping theres someone somewhere who has a turbo kit for sale who is also wise on fitting them !
   
   Anyone have a Turbo kit for sale lol ?????
   
   cheers
4. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

   #4 1st June 2009, 11:03

   To turbo a car you either do it properly or don't bother imo so you have to spend some decent money.
   
   If you really want a turbo get a Corsa and drop a LET in it lol
   
   It will probably work out cheaper and better if you go down the cammed 16V route.
5. big_prop_24 Newbie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4

   #5 1st June 2009, 11:18

   I have had my fun with Vaux now!
   
   Yea im thinking best idea would be purchase alll the below -
   
   VTS 16v Lump
   4-2-1 Manifold
   Cat back system
   Cams
   ECU Remap
   Induction Kit
   
   Do you know what kind of BHP that would gain ?
   
   Any sugestions on which parts are best ie, best exhaust , etc ...
   
   IT would run VTR box.
   
   cheers
6. maddison_vts Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Torbay Posts: 1565 2000 phase 2 Saxo VTS Turbo 2000 Nissan 200sx S14a

   #6 1st June 2009, 12:41

   you would see around the 150 ish mark (bhp) depending on parts used.
   
   vtr box would make it far less fun though due to the long gearing, you'd accelerate considerably slower than what you would with a vts box.
7. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #7 1st June 2009, 13:04

   Add a XSI or a Rallye gear box to your list and it will accelerate a lot better
8. user_34297 Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2009 Somewhere in Bonnyland Posts: 10669 Super clean mk5 Golf Gti and 306 hdi

   #8 1st June 2009, 17:50

   keep ccheckin ebay as i see alot goin cheap on there
9. Add91289 Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 In The Peak District Posts: 2348 Icelandic VT?

   #9 1st June 2009, 17:53

   why not just buy a vts to start with and save some work?
   
   plans sound good doh
10. user_25706 Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Taunton, Somerset Posts: 1182 Millenium Falcon

    #10 1st June 2009, 17:54

    A Basic Turbo setup on a VTR (which your £2,000 will get) Won't get you a lot more than 140-150 at best.
    
    If I were you I'd go for a VTS conversion and Cams which together Including a remap shouldn't be more than £2,000 and will get you probably the same (140-150bhp) and is money better spent IMO.
    
    A basic turbo fwd car is not a nice thing - unpleasant to drive, costly for the performance and most of all unreliable.
11. ukgaz Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Maidenhead Posts: 683 Saxo VtR '52

    #11 1st June 2009, 21:48

    Hi,
    
    If it helps the following guides are definitely worth a read.
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=127180
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=167335
12. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #12 1st June 2009, 21:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by big_prop_24 Hi Guys ! This is my first post so sorry if i make any newbie mistakes ! Basically i will be purchasing a VTR from a mates GF in about a month ( Once she has got a new car ) its a P reg which i believe is the mark 1 90 bhp model. Due to once owning a 2.0 Corsa Redtop running 185bhp i need more power ! I have been looking into all the power gains and are drawn by either VTS conversion or putting a turbo on the VTR. I would prefer the turbo as its more fun but i don't have the biggest pocket in the world ! Reading around on the forum i can see there companies which do it but prices are very high! Basically wanted to know what is the best price i could get all parts for and if someone is able to do it for me as i have never worked with turbos before ? Thanks in advance Liam

    what did you do to the red top engine to get it to run 185 bhp?
13. big_prop_24 Newbie Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4

    #13 2nd June 2009, 10:05

    Cheers for the help guys !
    
    Thinking a bit more in depth about it all , running a turbo vts may not be worth the money.
    
    So why not do a VTS turbo!
    
    I could pick up vts setup cheap enough i recon. Put that in add a new mods then turbo that.
    
    Please note this wont b in a week haha ! im not made of money, i will just add a little something each week !
    
    Anyone selling all parts for VTS conversion ? ie lump box ecu and loom ?
    
    Thanks again
    
    Liam
14. kenny Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2005 Near St Andrews Fife Posts: 4631 Saxo Westcoast (sold) mr2 turbo

    #14 2nd June 2009, 12:30

    best people to speak to about a turbo setup is gmc. if you dont have a big budget then go down the route of cams etc in a 16v and get it breathing better aswel
    
    hope this helps
15. ukgaz Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Maidenhead Posts: 683 Saxo VtR '52

    #15 2nd June 2009, 16:27

    worth also speaking to dp engineering and pug1of, there is cituning but they are limited to low boost and a gt17 turbo
16. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #16 2nd June 2009, 16:39

    Sounds to me your buying a car and getting abit too excited.
    
    Stop with the big plans, VTR turbo isn't something you jump into when you know nothing about it all.
    
    For now just stick with an exhaust and induction kit and do abit of reading.
    
    The VTR will suprise you on good handling incomparisment to your previous corsa.
17. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #17 2nd June 2009, 20:16

    Two very good points with a relatively basic VTR turbo setup are that it will drive much like a standard car off boost including good fuel economy and drive ability at low speeds. Plus its easy to get more power at a further date. 200Bhp from a VTR is relatively simple to get if your talking boost.
    
    A normally aspirated engine with out some sort of variable valve system can not run wild cams with out significantly reducing fuel economy and dive ability even if your only driving slow. You also struggle to big power gains from a normally aspirated engine.