The Saxperience Community Rules have been updated.

  1. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26
    #1
    The Saxperience Community rules have been due an update for quite some time and whilst many members have been able to abide by the new ways of interacting, which have now become custom and practice, other members have not been so switched on.

    So, an official update to the community rules and guidelines has now been implemented. As ever, these guidelines may be changed / updated at any time.

    You can view the forum rules / guidelines via a number of ways. (Take note for future reference).

    1. When a new user account is registered, you will be asked to read the forum rules and tick, to say that you agree to abide by these rules.

    2. By viewing the announcement pinned at the top of each and every forum.

    3. By clicking the 'Terms of Service' link at the bottom right hand corner of all forum pages.

    4. By clicking the 'forum rules' link, shown at the bottom left of forum-view and post-view pages.

    As ever, if you have any constructive feedback, please lets hear it. Particularly if you feel the community would benefit from adding additional detail to some aspect of these guidelines.

    Thanks
    Simo
  2. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26
    #2
    A few people have had some comments and queries about the updated community guidelines. Please discuss these within this thread, so that other people can learn from your/staff feedback.

    Thanks
    Simo
  3. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #3
    some good updated rules....

    Nice one Simon...
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2008 Kent Posts: 2653 1.6 16v C2 GT
    #4
    Maybe you should get existing members to tick these boxes aswell.

    Maybe do a test to see if they actually read the tos.
  5. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26
    #5
    Yeah, Im thinking of implementing a force-read of the rules...
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2008 Kent Posts: 2653 1.6 16v C2 GT
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    Yeah, Im thinking of implementing a force-read of the rules...
    Seriously? Like an iniciation process?

    Might become a bit of an elitest forum rather than public forum though?
  7. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Matt67 View Post
    Seriously? Like an iniciation process?

    Might become a bit of an elitest forum rather than public forum though?
    No, lol... a simple message that comes on the screen first time you login (only appears once) and says click here to confirm you have re-read the rules.
  8. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #8
    Nice to see a 'major' update.

    I still think the n00bs need to go through a trial period before they have full access. Ive noticed (and others) that the latest influx seem to have zero-grammar skills and have typos in all posts.

    Admittidly, Ive never read the ToS on any site as they are blah blah blah and go on forever. Whenever I see them, I just check the box and continue. If I get banned, I have no complaints as I 'agreed' to the ToS.

    The rules are just common sense, although the spam and abuse rules are grey areas imo. Seen a few posts tonight that would be seen as offensive by the PC brigade but not as others.
  9. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris261287 View Post
    Nice to see a 'major' update.

    I still think the n00bs need to go through a trial period before they have full access. Ive noticed (and others) that the latest influx seem to have zero-grammar skills and have typos in all posts.

    Admittidly, Ive never read the ToS on any site as they are blah blah blah and go on forever. Whenever I see them, I just check the box and continue. If I get banned, I have no complaints as I 'agreed' to the ToS.

    The rules are just common sense, although the spam and abuse rules are grey areas imo. Seen a few posts tonight that would be seen as offensive by the PC brigade but not as others.
    Life is full of grey areas, I'm a great believer in this. Many things are open to personal interpretation, but usually common sense wins
  10. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #10
    So its down to the discretion of the mods? Im cool with that.
  11. Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328
    #11
    So reading that the vts engine bay bolts, group a hub nuts and uprated pinch bolts that i had advertised should of being allowed to stay rather than being deleated?
    These are all product lines i have investigated and researchd and that have no connection to any company?
    Can i re write them then?
  12. Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Derby Posts: 2376 Saxo VTw ?
    #12
    I think more needs to be done about Spam... i've seen a number of threads now since your previous thread on the problem which are kept open and Mods seem to allow it to run its course...?

    I mean i can understand if it was interesting, but its just random shit. And it makes the forum less enjoyable to read if we have to sift through pointless posts.

    Other than that, good idea about force reading rules though.!
    Wouldnt particularly want to have to keep confirming im not a n00b everytime i enter the site though...
  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 7657
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    No, lol... a simple message that comes on the screen first time you login (only appears once) and says click here to confirm you have re-read the rules.
    TBH while a great idea it sure is, in this day and age, you are inundated with t&c's, rules and procedures etc etc etc

    Who ever reads them? i sure as hell dont, i dont have time to.

    I unless its just a form filling exercise i doubt people will read it.
  14. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #14
    Idea - A random rule should be on screen somewhere either just above the 'Quick Reply' box or just above the first reply on the page.

    Then the n00bs shouldnt fail to know them. After a certain level of activity, the rules should then disappear ie 500 posts or something daft.
  15. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by swampy View Post
    So reading that the vts engine bay bolts, group a hub nuts and uprated pinch bolts that i had advertised should of being allowed to stay rather than being deleated?
    These are all product lines i have investigated and researchd and that have no connection to any company?
    Can i re write them then?
    I dont have any knowledge of the threads, which you have had removed.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_X View Post
    TBH while a great idea it sure is, in this day and age, you are inundated with t&c's, rules and procedures etc etc etc

    Who ever reads them? i sure as hell dont, i dont have time to.

    I unless its just a form filling exercise i doubt people will read it.
    When you registered your user account you agreed to be bound by the terms of use and it is also stated that terms can be changed at any time. So it doesnt particularly matter whether you choose to read or not, as long as you abide by the guidelines and do not grumble when you are pulled-up if you do not follow them. The click to re-confirm would act as a reminder that terms have changed, nothing more...
  16. Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 in shell with personal v-power pump lol. Posts: 2197 400bhp build gt4
    #16
    think those rules are quite fair tbh. just read them all.
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 7657
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    When you registered your user account you agreed to be bound by the terms of use and it is also stated that terms can be changed at any time. So it doesnt particularly matter whether you choose to read or not, as long as you abide by the guidelines and do not grumble when you are pulled-up if you do not follow them. The click to re-confirm would act as a reminder that terms have changed, nothing more...
    im guna assume if you dont act like a tard you will be fine, that rule hasnt let me down yet
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 Spalding-ish Posts: 2512 Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye
    #18
    Theres a few sites that i use which have the same newbie rule. Your first post MUST be a newbie introduction thread before you use any of the site. Lots of hassel to set up though...
  19. Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 wednesbury/west brom Posts: 1186 Black Flat arch & White Vtr
    #19
    tbh i never looked at them when i first joined and just basically got to know the rules through the sax-p community i.e. talking to other members.

    i have know looked at the rules after nearly 7 months of membership

    oh and the force read kind of thing sounds a good idea.
  20. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by swampy View Post
    So reading that the vts engine bay bolts, group a hub nuts and uprated pinch bolts that i had advertised should of being allowed to stay rather than being deleated?
    These are all product lines i have investigated and researchd and that have no connection to any company?
    Can i re write them then?
    Selling products on is trading. Especially when they are items being sold multiple times.
  21. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
    #21
    i never read terms & conditions, just click and continue

    9 times out of 10 the people writing the rules wont do anything illegal, just a list of guidelines to protect themselves if anything goes wrong (when selling anyway)

    forum rules wont get read imo, annoyingly, as we'll continue to see "i have 100 posts but no for sale section" etc etc

    might just be me, but when i joined, most rules are common sence, i didnt read them, and have never broken them, doesnt take a genius to work out whats acceptable and what isnt
  22. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Posts: 677 Looking to buy a 1.4 Saxo Furio
    #22
    you should put your birthday in it simo, then at the end ask the user what your birthday is! aha, then they will have to read it to find out!
  23. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AkuskaUK View Post
    you should put your birthday in it simo, then at the end ask the user what your birthday is! aha, then they will have to read it to find out!
    or just scan the rules not reading just to find a date

    either way, idea has now been given away

    test on the rules seems a bit too "excessive / harsh" imo, just in case anyone was going to mention it
  24. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Stockton-on-tees Posts: 3484 Tuna Can
    #24
    How about a tick at the end of each rule... Yes you could just tick each box and ignore reading them but your more inclined to read them if you have to tick each individually?