Peugeot V10, Honda V8 or possibly Puegot V12 twin turbo conversion is it possible?

  1. #1
    Hi

    I heard from my mate a proper shit hot citroen mechanic that a v10 fits in a saxo? is this easy to do? do you think a turbo will fit aswell? I was thinking of doing it for the lolz because i know this vtr and he reckons that beats 16vs is it true?



    thanks
  2. #2
    banned
  3. #3
    Me mate told me 'v12 will do in with no other mods. Stick 4 turbos on and it really go
  4. #4
    lmao you need ballbag swingers if you want over 1000bhp
  5. #5
    why bother gav?? 8v has more torque
  6. #6
    Looks like the 1995 engine used in the Jordan in F1.
  7. #7
    I think it would fit easy, although the bugatti veyron engine apparently will go in sideways and make it rear wheel drive, with no mods, Just need to chop the middle of the car out, piece of piss

    Wouldn't keep up with the pimped up 1.1 rudeboys though
  8. #8
    Deja Vu? Annual prank this now? lol
  9. #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo View Post
    Deja Vu? Annual prank this now? lol
    well you know it ben, this is just to high light the amount of turbo questions that get asked daily and can x y z fit in lol

    really danny no way so i will need 10 turbos for each cylinder to get as much torque as an 8v vtr?
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  10. #10
    my vtr would still beat you gav!!

    ive got lotus seats for the extra 902 bhp
  11. #11
    surly the car will just flip on itself with that much torque going through the rear wheels
  12. #12
    leave it front driven then
  13. #13
    If I was looking for a mental engine I'd probably go for the Hartley 2.8 or 3 litre all alloy V8, probably the lightest, most compact V8 available weighing only 200 lbs and putting out 400-500bhp spec dependent, also revs to 10k.


    SPECIFICATIONS H1V8:

    75° odd fire V8
    2.8 LITER, 170 cu. in. displacement (3.0 liter optional)
    84mm Bore X 63mm Stroke (67 stroke optional)
    4 cams, 32 valves via internal silent chain
    530mm wide x 485mm long x 530mm high
    400HP @ 10,000 rpm with stock street cams (higher spec, 500bhp)
    245 ft-lbs torque @ 7500 rpm
    200 lbs engine weight
    Billet nitrided steel 180° crank
    4340 H-beam con-rods with ARP bolts
    Billet 6061-T6 aluminum crankcase
    Dry sump 0il system with 4 stage pump
    7.25" or 5.5" Twin disc clutch
    DTA S80 full sequential ECU
    Unique cylinder offset and cam drive arrangement yields a compact design- Patent No. 7,168,405


    See the pics, specs and dimensions here.. http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/1562069.htm
  14. #14
    Can you fit a chip on the ECU or is it better to get a remap on this V10?
  15. #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    well you know it ben, this is just to high light the amount of turbo questions that get asked daily and can x y z fit in lol

    really danny no way so i will need 10 turbos for each cylinder to get as much torque as an 8v vtr?
    lol yeah very true
  16. #16
    will this fit the v10? i was thinkin it would make it as fast as a westie

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-Super...3A1%7C294%3A50
  17. #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by db_sax View Post
    Can you fit a chip on the ECU or is it better to get a remap on this V10?
    remap may affect the performance of the ported throttle body. Stick with a chip imho
  18. #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by db_sax View Post
    Can you fit a chip on the ECU or is it better to get a remap on this V10?

    theres chips on ebay, easy fit, work's well with a wee bit vinegar aswell
  19. #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by db_sax View Post
    Can you fit a chip on the ECU or is it better to get a remap on this V10?
    This thread is getting a bit silly but for talking sake... you'd need very high specced standalone aftermarket ECU to run an F1 engine and extensive mapping. These things are built to such high tolerances that they have to be connected to an engine 'life support' machine which pumps hot oil round it etc etc, keeps all internal temps within certain parameters to stop it seizing and reads its vital signs, only if they are all within spec will it be safe to start.
  20. #20
    it was silly from the start mate, that was the point of it lol
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  21. #21
    Yeah, I skimmed over it and at 1st I was like wtf? I didnt have Gav down as one of 'em' lol. I read back over the whole thread since posting before realising it was a total piss take lol..

    Got me.. Good one Gav!
  22. #22
    ive already d0ne it. was quite simple
  23. #23
    really does it run on urea?
  24. #24
    IIRC bullit ran it on Vpower, we all told him it wouldnt make it any faster but he said he could feel the difference between that & the 95ron from Tesco. Just wasting his money though i think, you can get double clubcard points at tesco.
  25. #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ari View Post
    This thread is getting a bit silly but for talking sake... you'd need very high specced standalone aftermarket ECU to run an F1 engine and extensive mapping. These things are built to such high tolerances that they have to be connected to an engine 'life support' machine which pumps hot oil round it etc etc, keeps all internal temps within certain parameters to stop it seizing and reads its vital signs, only if they are all within spec will it be safe to start.
    i think he thought this was a sersouis thread.
  26. #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aron View Post
    i think he thought this was a sersouis thread.

    I did at 1st.. but then you do get some really daft ones on here which are intended to be serious so forgive me!
  27. #27
    a lad with a furio said i need a supercharger on there to keep up with him apparantly ari vatanen built his enigne?
  28. #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    a lad with a furio said i need a supercharger on there to keep up with him apparantly ari vatanen built his enigne?
    Nah.. he's talking shit.. I stopped doing rebuilds 15 years ago.
  29. #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ari View Post
    I did at 1st.. but then you do get some really daft ones on here which are intended to be serious so forgive me!
    Thanks for that lol! I aint that daft lol
  30. #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by db_sax View Post
    Thanks for that lol! I aint that daft lol
    Sorry bud!
  31. #31
    by placing the engine 0n the r00f it made the j0b a l0t easier. this als0 saved me splashing 0ut 0n a c0ld air feed.
  32. #32
    i heard it uses the original loom and ecu??? also engine mounts are the same tooo bloody good conversion i say. cheap too all for under £100
  33. #33
    the only problem is, you have to clean and port the throttle body otherwise it wont tick over....
  34. #34
    thats c0rrect t0m. there was tw0 ways 0f d0ing the c0nversi0n, either strap it t0 the r00f like i did 0r cut the engine in half. 0ne half sits 0n the existing m0unts and the 0ther is thr0wn in the back.
  35. #35
    What is that engined pictured on the first post out of
  36. #36
    ah dam no way ari, i will have to give hannu Mikkola a call see if he can do it

    yeah could do it that way bullit man

    danny 1 tb gutted i thought there was 12!
  37. #37
    funny how the nubes take it seriously
  38. #38
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 View Post
    What is that engined pictured on the first post out of
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...Peugeot_F1.jpg
  39. #39
    How do I unlock the Ecu? I tried to start it with my key and it just turned over
  40. #40
    y0u need the c0rrect key
  41. #41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    How do I unlock the Ecu? I tried to start it with my key and it just turned over
    you have to press the milage reset button 3 times mate
  42. #42
    what if you have a keypad immobiliser??

    can i just reset it to my birthday?
  43. #43
    If you havnt got VTEC in it then theres no point, it would be more cost effective to fit a VTS with a K&N and a cherry bomb.
  44. #44
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    what if you have a keypad immobiliser??

    can i just reset it to my birthday?

    You need the password mate. It should be on another VT of the same colour, you have to measure the difference between the arch at the tyre, devide it by 3 and thats the password. Put that in your keypad.
  45. #45
    Ste - v8 VTEC y0



    so will the above work with the standard 1.0 ecu?
  46. #46
    Nah mate have a search this questions asked everyday.

    But you can replace the 1.0 injectors with 1.6vts injectors to make it a 1.6 though , will need a remap though, and rear tyres replacing.
  47. #47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    Ste - v8 VTEC y0



    so will the above work with the standard 1.0 ecu?
    on a serious note,, holy fook

    check out the stand off injectors.
  48. #48
    i used to have the fastest saxo about when i had my overhead sponge valve fitted, but someone stole my engine. so now im just running a honda vision engine with a catering nitrous kit.
  49. #49
    That engine is actually porn. I feel dirty for being so attracted to an engine
  50. #50
    jus drop 4 turbos and supercharge a 1.1 smoke evryfin
  51. #51
    any thing can be done just need next weeks lottery numbers
  52. #52
    Just for a split second I thought, fuck, Gav's gonna do something mental. Then realised he was taking the piss.

    Gutted tbh.
  53. #53
    needs lowering










    on vts wheels
  54. #54
    What about this peugeot v12 it has 2 turbos faster than my blads 1.4 aii?




    More of the VTEC enigne aswell what ya think?



  55. #55
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    What about this peugeot v12 it has 2 turbos faster than my blads 1.4 aii?




    More of the VTEC enigne aswell what ya think?



    that is porn
  56. #56
    I want them in my front room.

    Ill give you ten dowwah and a soggy biscuit?
  57. #57
    on a slightly more serious note. Graeme was offered an aston martin V12 engine for his racecar. Only £12k just for the engine!
    £6k bought a freshly rolled Honda S2000 so that won...
  58. #58
    Only thing to do is fit some small steelies on the front to cope with the weight and the lower height, that way it looks like a drag car too!!

    Sick tbh...

    Big spoiler needed though, counteracts the extra power and the wrong keypad code...

    Lexus lights work pretty well so i've been told, also helps with the ecu unlocking problem and gives even more powaaah!
  59. #59
    those engines are works of art - they dont belong in cars!

    If I was rich enough I'd buy one and turn it into a coffee table so I could eat my breakfast off it every day
  60. #60
    ok looking at that honda engine i think i just came in my thongs a little
  61. #61
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ari View Post
    If I was looking for a mental engine I'd probably go for the Hartley 2.8 or 3 litre all alloy V8, probably the lightest, most compact V8 available weighing only 200 lbs and putting out 400-500bhp spec dependent, also revs to 10k.


    SPECIFICATIONS H1V8:

    75° odd fire V8
    2.8 LITER, 170 cu. in. displacement (3.0 liter optional)
    84mm Bore X 63mm Stroke (67 stroke optional)
    4 cams, 32 valves via internal silent chain
    530mm wide x 485mm long x 530mm high
    400HP @ 10,000 rpm with stock street cams (higher spec, 500bhp)
    245 ft-lbs torque @ 7500 rpm
    200 lbs engine weight
    Billet nitrided steel 180° crank
    4340 H-beam con-rods with ARP bolts
    Billet 6061-T6 aluminum crankcase
    Dry sump 0il system with 4 stage pump
    7.25" or 5.5" Twin disc clutch
    DTA S80 full sequential ECU
    Unique cylinder offset and cam drive arrangement yields a compact design- Patent No. 7,168,405


    See the pics, specs and dimensions here.. http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/1562069.htm
    looked at that for my 309. Then i looked at the price
  62. #62
    so will any of the above be faster than a 3.0 v6 in a saxo?
  63. #63
    do didn't really get an answer to this, will 1.0 cams work and would there be any benefit of fit a gam socket with intercooler?
  64. #64
    being stupid f you got the cash the 406 coupe 3.0 V6 fits in a paxo if you have the money its bin done in france just for info . . . also a few saxo 2L turbo's TCT swapzzzz
  65. #65
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mallyauto86 View Post
    being stupid f you got the cash the 406 coupe 3.0 V6 fits in a paxo if you have the money its bin done in france just for info . . . also a few saxo 2L turbo's TCT swapzzzz
    ...... or a twin turbo peugeot v12 I know which one I'd rather fit, just not sure on insurance and declaring it ?
  66. #66
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    ...... or a twin turbo peugeot v12 I know which one I'd rather fit, just not sure on insurance and declaring it ?
    take the piss mate i canz proove it

    heres the 2 liter turbo one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JA9wgP3Heg

    engine out of a 806 TCT . . . oh sorry iu speak french and understand what hes saying lol

    but yeh its a TCT engine most comun in 205 gti swops
  67. #67
    and if a v6 will fit a c2 pretty sure it would fit a saxo . . .you know they did a v8 twingo so anything is possible . . Link :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIzgk5FnqzI
  68. #68
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mallyauto86 View Post
    take the piss mate i canz proove it

    heres the 2 liter turbo one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JA9wgP3Heg

    engine out of a 806 TCT . . . oh sorry iu speak french and understand what hes saying lol

    but yeh its a TCT engine most comun in 205 gti swops
    It's only 240bhp people been getting more than that on the 16v engine.

    I can get the rough jist of what he's saying
  69. #69
    yeah but if I fit an intercooler to my saxo will it make me look ard and get the schoolies? think the v12 would go better with an ebay chipz lyk?
  70. #70
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    It's only 240bhp people been getting more than that on the 16v engine.

    I can get the rough jist of what he's saying
    yeh its 240hp but these engines are only 8v can be converted to 16v's tho and some french 205's with them in have had over 450hp. . .
  71. #71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mallyauto86 View Post
    yeh its 240hp but these engines are only 8v can be converted to 16v's tho and some french 205's with them in have had over 450hp. . .
    That's a better figure !!! It'd be worth the hassle then tbh.

    Saying that though, I bet 240bhp is plenty fast enough for the road !!
  72. #72
    my mates runing 350hp on his in his 205GTI on stock internals and hes getting bored with it
  73. #73
    so I've concluded since going the v8 conversion and fitting 2 cam from a 1.1 and running the engine on fud juice and not oil I've mad 850bhp oh running a 4 speed ax box aswell
  74. #74
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    so I've concluded since going the v8 conversion and fitting 2 cam from a 1.1 and running the engine on fud juice and not oil I've mad 850bhp oh running a 4 speed ax box aswell
    ha

    ultimate sleeper that mate !!

  75. #75
    doesnt handle very well... too heavy, its nice siting in the rear though
  76. #76
    My mate has one of these in his 1.1. BLOODY RAPID.
  77. #77
    I heard if you used diesel init, it wud go up by 68.49304hp
  78. #78
    I got 4 of those in my spax0, one for each wheel, an ebay supercharger on each tb too
  79. #79
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Slugshead View Post
    I got 4 of those in my spax0, one for each wheel, an ebay supercharger on each tb too
    IZ it runnin on diezel doe?
  80. #80
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RDKells View Post
    IZ it runnin on diezel doe?
    red
  81. #81
    do it !
  82. #82
    prickle told me to use vtr cams and a 1.1 box
  83. #83
    Yeah I heard that too!

    Pm him
  84. #84
    Prickle is halfway through this conversion isn't he?
  85. #85
    hahahaha!
  86. #86
    If you go on youtube theres someone whos crammed in 2 engines into a saxo... thats interesting...