3.0 v6 saxo

  1. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 Oxfordshire Posts: 121
    #1
    what would i need to be able to put a peugeot 406 coupe engine into a saxo?
    anyone done this that could give me some help if i was to do this conversion?
    Many Thanks Kris
    (This is just an idea for now as atm i wouldnt even be able to afford to run this engine let alone the insurance costs etc)
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed
    #2
    Search mate its been covered many times before.

    Basically its doable, but will cost a fuck load of money, youll need custom driveshafts, engine mounts, work on the shell to get the gearbox to fit, and it will handle like a dog.
  3. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 borders, and washington Posts: 758 mk1 vts and ltd edition corsa
    #3
    deep pockets mate lol
  4. Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Surrey Posts: 1326 05 Mini Cooper S
    #4
    Jesus Christ, use the search button and stop asking stupid questions. I cant believe how much shit like this is asked its just pointless you will never do it so why ask the question?
  5. Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chriswoodward View Post
    Jesus Christ, use the search button and stop asking stupid questions. I cant believe how much shit like this is asked its just pointless you will never do it so why ask the question?
    Absolutely.

    It will be a bag of shit to drive anyway. For the money it would cost to actually do it and the hassle and stress involved you might as well sell your vtr, buy a vts, and spend what money you would have spent on the 406 engine conversion on tuning the vts engine.
  6. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #6
    the 3.0 v6 completely fills a 306 bay
    it pysically would not fit in the front of a saxo

    put it in the boot tbh
  7. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can
    #7
    Wouldn't handle shit I should think....the V6 lump is all alloy and AFAIK doesn't weigh much more than a VTS engine.

    Could/should it be done? Absoloutely fuck no. Leave putting stupidly big engines in little cars when a smaller more balanced unit would drive much better to the VW boys and their Polos with crappy VR6 lumps.
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Icey_Furio View Post
    Wouldn't handle shit I should think....the V6 lump is all alloy and AFAIK doesn't weigh much more than a VTS engine.

    Could/should it be done? Absoloutely fuck no. Leave putting stupidly big engines in little cars when a smaller more balanced unit would drive much better to the VW boys and their Polos with crappy VR6 lumps.
    put thast lump next to a vts and tell me they dont weigh much more? are you for real lmao, by the time you get evrything in fitted and needed for it to run i a saxo your looking at a hell of a lot more weight spread over a bigger area ov a smaller car and tellin ppl it wont handle like shit?
  9. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    put thast lump next to a vts and tell me they dont weigh much more? are you for real lmao, by the time you get evrything in fitted and needed for it to run i a saxo your looking at a hell of a lot more weight spread over a bigger area ov a smaller car and tellin ppl it wont handle like shit?
    The overall weight of the V6 ain't alot more than a VTS lump. The VTS lump has an iron block doesn't it? V6 is all alloy....alloy being lighter than iron. And as for all the fitted gear...depends what box you run. Go and fit the ML box as a 406 would have and yeah it'll be heavy as fuck, but adapt something smaller to fit and it may not.

    It's a pointless argument because physically fitting an ES V6 lump in the front of a Paxo would be like trying to break in a high school virgin with a traffic cone.
  10. Saxperience Addict Joined: Mar 2007 Cheltenham Posts: 11412 Megane 03 1.6 VVTi Dynamique
    #10
    can be done.

    if, you have a year or so to customise it (tinkering most weekends and nights)
    if you have a couple of grand spare change.

    Failing that buy a 406 coupe
  11. Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Posts: 425 2001 Furio with Mk2 Vtr lump 2001 Vts
    #11
    Quote:
    It's a pointless argument because physically fitting an ES V6 lump in the front of a Paxo would be like trying to break in a high school virgin with a traffic cone.
    lmao !!
  12. Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 aberystwyth Posts: 308 MK1 vtr
    #12
    can be done but is extremley pointless i had a corsa with a 2.0 redtop engine and was nose heavy and horrible to drive
  13. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blainej View Post
    can be done but is extremley pointless i had a corsa with a 2.0 redtop engine and was nose heavy and horrible to drive
    Thats just corsas...
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  14. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blainej View Post
    can be done but is extremley pointless i had a corsa with a 2.0 redtop engine and was nose heavy and horrible to drive
    I drove a redtop for about 2 days.. couldn't wait to get out of the death trap, not slating all of them but unless there well set up with custom springs ect then I would never step foot in one

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    Thats just corsas...
    a-men brother
  15. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #15
    The V6 might fit if you strip most parts off and run it on throttlebodies, but I would say bulkhead cutting, a shallower sump and a hump in the bonnet may be required. Cheaper to fit in the back..
    If it can be done you will get a good sense of achievement for success but its a lot of work and there would be a lot of trial and error. Suspension points may need to be altered as the v6 is not heavy, but it sits further forward than the TU and XU engines. Polar rotational inertia will increase so some thought into weight distribution and suspension damper/spring rates will be needed. To create some room I would plumb the radiator into the boot, box it out and have some airducts. A bit like the rallycross cars.

    Actually sounds like a fun project to try though i've got my hands full already...maybe for the next one...
  16. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by -shuggles- View Post
    I drove a redtop for about 2 days.. couldn't wait to get out of the death trap, not slating all of them but unless there well set up with custom springs ect then I would never step foot in one
    eh...custom springs? no wonder..I sat in my neighbour's c20xe corsa and I was shocked at how quick and sharp it was in the corners.
  17. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 birmingham Posts: 156 saxo 1.1 with GTi conversion Matt black slammed m
    #17
    Rather then going through that mate I did it but went in the boot and let me tell u bag of shit fun and all but for the time and hassle no way worth it however I'm currently putting the 1.8 t out of the Audi in my Saxo plenty of room gone in engine bay mint with all my intercooler and all no bulk cutting pain in the arse to do but it's very different and it's a much better engine will be tuning 300 bhp at the wheel when done not a job for the light hearted or inexperienced as I have to call on a bit of help from a motor sport company with regards to drive shafts n shit like that any help pm me
  18. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 121
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dan_27 View Post
    Rather then going through that mate I did it but went in the boot and let me tell u bag of shit fun and all but for the time and hassle no way worth it however I'm currently putting the 1.8 t out of the Audi in my Saxo plenty of room gone in engine bay mint with all my intercooler and all no bulk cutting pain in the arse to do but it's very different and it's a much better engine will be tuning 300 bhp at the wheel when done not a job for the light hearted or inexperienced as I have to call on a bit of help from a motor sport company with regards to drive shafts n shit like that any help pm me

    I'm surprised the 20vt hasnt been fitted to a saxo/106 already by now, the Clio/R5 boys have been doing it years.

    Also on a side note, punctuation would make your post much easier to read.
  19. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dan_27 View Post
    Rather then going through that mate I did it but went in the boot and let me tell u bag of shit fun and all but for the time and hassle no way worth it however I'm currently putting the 1.8 t out of the Audi in my Saxo plenty of room gone in engine bay mint with all my intercooler and all no bulk cutting pain in the arse to do but it's very different and it's a much better engine will be tuning 300 bhp at the wheel when done not a job for the light hearted or inexperienced as I have to call on a bit of help from a motor sport company with regards to drive shafts n shit like that any help pm me
    A bit off topic but you must make a progress thread for this, sounds bloody awesome!
  20. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 birmingham Posts: 156 saxo 1.1 with GTi conversion Matt black slammed m
    #20
    Yh it is quality I'll start a new thread on mine later and to earlier post I'm only saying I my self haven't seen it done before