Pretty dissapointed. Lowerd 40mm but...

1. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

   #1 27th July 2009, 18:45

   Got my car Lowerd 40mm, it looks slightly different i supose. But it still looks pretty high. I wish i went like 50mm now. Does this look like how they normaly do at 40mm? :
   
   
2. user_28436 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Shropshire Posts: 1786

   #2 27th July 2009, 18:46

   What size are the alloys and tyres?
3. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

   #3 27th July 2009, 18:46

   15" 195/45/15
4. user_28436 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Shropshire Posts: 1786

   #4 27th July 2009, 18:48

   Does look a little high...
5. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

   #5 27th July 2009, 18:48

   After he lowerd it, and it came off the ramp. I said are you sure thats 40mm? and he said "yeh you can tweek it abit aswell from doing somthing with the dampers"
   
   How do you tweek it to lower it a tad more? Cheers.
6. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

   #6 27th July 2009, 18:49

   front springs will take a week or so to sit right
   
   get some proper wheels lol
7. user_28436 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Shropshire Posts: 1786

   #7 27th July 2009, 18:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Lloydie After he lowerd it, and it came off the ramp. I said are you sure thats 40mm? and he said "yeh you can tweek it abit aswell from doing somthing with the dampers" How do you tweek it to lower it a tad more? Cheers.

   I cant see that 'tweeking' with the dampers will drop it another 10mm lol
8. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

   #8 27th July 2009, 18:53

   Nah but anything atall would look better, 1mm hahaa. Nah but seriously it anything atall to make it slightly lower
9. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

   #9 27th July 2009, 18:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ashleyp front springs will take a week or so to sit right get some proper wheels lol

   I did 15" multispokes. love em
10. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #10 27th July 2009, 18:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lloydie After he lowerd it, and it came off the ramp. I said are you sure thats 40mm? and he said "yeh you can tweek it abit aswell from doing somthing with the dampers" How do you tweek it to lower it a tad more? Cheers.

    Lol. Unless you have coilovers fitted, which you dont i assume, you wont be able to adjust the ride height.
    
    If it was a full kit fitted ie new springs and dampers then depending on the kit you have it may be adjustable in rebound/compression simultaneously or individually. Most kits are simultaneously adjusted though or even just adjustable in terms of compression i think. More expensive kits allow you to do one or the other or both depending on how your trying to set it up.
    
    Your kit probably isnt adjustable at all though.
    
    Its worth remembering that a newly lowered car on new springs and shocks will take a few hundred miles (sometimes more) to adust to the ride height it will sit at permanently. Depending on how old the picture you have taken is, you may have already noticed a small difference. Even when settled your probably only talking a bedded in drop of about 5mm more.
11. user_28436 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Shropshire Posts: 1786

    #11 27th July 2009, 18:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lloydie Nah but anything atall would look better, 1mm hahaa. Nah but seriously it anything atall to make it slightly lower

    Get the torsion bars out and drop it lower
12. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #12 27th July 2009, 18:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mattt_VTR Get the torsion bars out and drop it lower

    Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeedboataaaa.
13. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #13 27th July 2009, 18:59

    I got it lowerd about 3-4 weeks ago and that picture was taken on saturday
14. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #14 27th July 2009, 18:59

    Also i've noticed a squeeking noise aswell since the rear was lowerd. Any ideas what it could be? When i go over bumps it squeeks
15. E3D Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Tunbridge Wells Posts: 1465 Furio 1.4 2002

    #15 27th July 2009, 19:01

    tbh thats what 40mm looks like, anyway if you go lower and u will have to spend £££ for it get half decent handling. sub in the boot will probalby get another 10mm haha.
16. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #16 27th July 2009, 19:02

    You want it about this low at the front right?
    
    
    
    Thats 50mm.
17. user_28436 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Shropshire Posts: 1786

    #17 27th July 2009, 19:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lloydie Also i've noticed a squeeking noise aswell since the rear was lowerd. Any ideas what it could be? When i go over bumps it squeeks

    Sounds strange but it might be the suspension coil on the front. Mine does this too. Just got to put some grease on it and see if it stops
18. PozytroniX Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Barnstaple Posts: 159 1998 Citreon Saxo VTR 1.6

    #18 27th July 2009, 20:16

    what springs/dampers did you use?
19. user_24153 Regular Poster Joined: May 2008 Doncaster Posts: 459 mk2 gold vts

    #19 27th July 2009, 20:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lloydie Also i've noticed a squeeking noise aswell since the rear was lowerd. Any ideas what it could be? When i go over bumps it squeeks

    origional dampers mite be nakerd since you lowered it without uprating the dampers, or he mite of had blow torch on your rear beam when lowering the rear and fucked the little rubber seals up that protect your bearing thingmajingy and now they have rusted and filled with crap so now you need a reconditioned rear axle.
20. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #20 27th July 2009, 20:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PozytroniX what springs/dampers did you use?

    Spax 40mm front springs and the damers at the back are originals. Should i get some new dampers?
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevemcbride origional dampers mite be nakerd since you lowered it without uprating the dampers, or he mite of had blow torch on your rear beam when lowering the rear and fucked the little rubber seals up that protect your bearing thingmajingy and now they have rusted and filled with crap so now you need a reconditioned rear axle.

    How much is one of these worth then?
21. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #21 27th July 2009, 20:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by E3D tbh thats what 40mm looks like, anyway if you go lower and u will have to spend £££ for it get half decent handling. sub in the boot will probalby get another 10mm haha.

    Yeh i'll be geting a sub and amp soon anyway so thats ok. didnt think of that mate.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DanT You want it about this low at the front right? Thats 50mm.

    Yeh mate, wish i did 50mm now
22. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #22 27th July 2009, 20:43

    moxy's car is doen 40mm and looks lower than yours?
    
    Mine is lowered about the same as yours and it handles superb - you want it lower?
23. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #23 27th July 2009, 20:43

    Yeh the handleing is amazin mate. but for the looks i still think it doesnt look lowerd. If somone just looked at it they would probs just think its standard height
24. user_24153 Regular Poster Joined: May 2008 Doncaster Posts: 459 mk2 gold vts

    #24 27th July 2009, 20:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lloydie How much is one of these worth then?

    i bought one for £80, did it myself, but then fitting costed around £150-200, as it needed new brake lines etc.
    
    but its usually around atleast £300 for a reconditioned axle... i think.
25. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #25 27th July 2009, 20:48

    fuck sake. nah i aint paying that i'll deal with the squeeking
26. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #26 27th July 2009, 20:51

    I can fit a rear axle for you in a few hours if need be.
27. user_28642 L-plater Joined: Nov 2008 southampton Posts: 96 i have a 2001 reg black vtr

    #27 27th July 2009, 21:06

    who done it for you mate?
28. PozytroniX Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Barnstaple Posts: 159 1998 Citreon Saxo VTR 1.6

    #28 27th July 2009, 21:14

    Kam racing informed me that the apex and spax springs will lower the VT models (VTR VTS) 10mm less than stated. This is because the VT models are all ready lowered 10mm compared to the other saxo models (C2, Furio). Kam racing confirmed for me that the 50mm Apex kit (Springs and dampers) will actually lower my car 40mm.
    
    This would explain why yours looks at tad high still. Before you all jump at me it must be said i found this out because i was looking into buying the full apex kit, the rules maybe slightly different when your just buying springs, but anyhow its another thing to look into.
29. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #29 27th July 2009, 21:39

    Yeh your probs right tbh. wot a joke, i should of gone 50!
30. scottyvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 Paisley / Brighouse lol Posts: 4561 Corsa VXRacing

    #30 27th July 2009, 23:29

    with the sate ofthe roads in some places 40mm is agood hight
    
    
    but as said dont go lower on the back and go for the whole speed boat look, and even with a sub and spare wheel, if we take ours out the hight dont change
31. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #31 27th July 2009, 23:50

    Looking at that picture (baring in mind that photos can be deceptive) it only looks to be about 30mm on the rear
    
    Ive lowered alot of cars now and have done all kinds of heights so know exactly how they all look
32. benwh555 Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 2137 Saxo VTS black 2003

    #32 28th July 2009, 00:04

    Well could be the rear anti-roll bar needs tightening up. Quite a few people have this problem. Here is a link to the guide http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75542. As for the drop looks about right to me.
33. Neilcabrio Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 200 .

    #33 28th July 2009, 01:20

    needs to be lower mate. imo
34. lukeyyyyyyy21 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 west sussex yo! Posts: 500 MK4 Golf GTI 20v Turbo

    #34 28th July 2009, 01:29

    50-60mm is da sex.
35. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #35 28th July 2009, 03:26

    Does look a little high,dont think thats 40mm some how....mines 40mm all round,and sits much lower..............
36. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #36 28th July 2009, 07:49

    
    
    this is my vtr lowered 40 at the back 35 front
    
    u need proper wheels mate
37. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #37 28th July 2009, 11:56

    Why are people saying get "propper" wheels
38. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #38 28th July 2009, 12:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lloydie Why are people saying get "propper" wheels

    Assume it's cos they believe your to be universal ripspeed style ones, this is my assumption, not my views
39. Rossi86 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1229 Mk2 VTR

    #39 28th July 2009, 12:02

    everyone likes different wheels.
40. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

    #40 28th July 2009, 12:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lloydie Why are people saying get "propper" wheels

    Think they mean you need to become a sheep and buy VTS wheels like everyone else.
41. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #41 28th July 2009, 17:05

    Oh right i see. Nah i love these wheels. Would of preferd some Oz pure black multispokes but i didnt have that sort of money
42. user_28436 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Shropshire Posts: 1786

    #42 28th July 2009, 17:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SteveWC Think they mean you need to become a sheep and buy VTS wheels like everyone else.

    Whats wrong with being a sheep? Its better than being a chav
43. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #43 28th July 2009, 17:44

    saying that when u buy a typical chav car? u saying my wheels r chavy then?
44. user_28436 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Shropshire Posts: 1786

    #44 28th July 2009, 18:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lloydie saying that when u buy a typical chav car? u saying my wheels r chavy then?

    Lol that comment wasn't aimed at your alloys. It was aimed at the comment saying that anyone who has vts alloys is a sheep.
45. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #45 28th July 2009, 18:08

    oh right seemed like u aimed it at me lol
46. user_28436 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Shropshire Posts: 1786

    #46 28th July 2009, 18:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lloydie oh right seemed like u aimed it at me lol

    No it wasn't aimed at you lol. I think your alloys will look better if you get the car lowered another 10mm, just to reduce the gap in the arches
47. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #47 28th July 2009, 19:40

    Yeh mate but i aint guna pay another whloe load of money to get it lowerd again for another 10mm.
    
    Just need to deal with it i supose
48. Phsyco_Paff Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 South East Posts: 2015 Phase 2 vts

    #48 28th July 2009, 20:10

    Pop the rear torsin bars back out and drop it 10mm then take your front springs out and get the grinder out and lose a coil
49. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #49 28th July 2009, 20:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Phsyco_Paff Pop the rear torsin bars back out and drop it 10mm then take your front springs out and get the grinder out and lose a coil

    Dont go cutting coils !
50. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #50 28th July 2009, 20:37

    Sounds like a good plan tho tbh If it was measured out propperly
51. Phsyco_Paff Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 South East Posts: 2015 Phase 2 vts

    #51 28th July 2009, 20:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz Dont go cutting coils !

    theres no problem with cutting coils if done right as long as yov have enough rebound and dont hit the bumpstops should be fine
52. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #52 28th July 2009, 21:06

    pow this low?
    
    
    
    or like this?
    
    
53. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #53 29th July 2009, 00:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SteveWC Think they mean you need to become a sheep and buy VTS wheels like everyone else.

    ye i got them for the looks. dont really care who else has em tbh
54. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #54 29th July 2009, 11:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz Dont go cutting coils !

    If you can cut coils i may have a job for you ross my dear friend
55. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #55 29th July 2009, 12:05

    ive never heard there to be a safe way for coil cutting. isnt it mot fail aswell?
56. mlmt19 L-plater Joined: Jan 2008 Edinburgh Posts: 29 Ice Blue Saxo VTR

    #56 30th July 2009, 18:02

    yeah i wouldnt go cutting the springs either not worth it. why not just sell your springs to someone else and get new ones? i think it mite b an mot fail aswell. id check that out before you go ahead with it. im lowering mines 60mm at the weekend on bilstein shocks and springs so hope it comes out alright. should sit really low!
57. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #57 30th July 2009, 18:06

    Nah i aint guna bother with anything. Im begining to like it now, that pic doesnt do it any justice, i supose it looks lower in person
58. mlmt19 L-plater Joined: Jan 2008 Edinburgh Posts: 29 Ice Blue Saxo VTR

    #58 30th July 2009, 18:07

    be much safer on the speed bumps and it takes a while to bed in.