2.0 Xsara Vts engine into a saxo?

1. VTR_Andy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Southport Posts: 167 convert e46

   #1 3rd August 2009, 00:52

   easily done or not? anyone on here done it before? got my vtr ready for track DEATH! but the 8v engine in the vtr's just arnt fast enough even with a few mods.
2. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #2 3rd August 2009, 00:54

   anyone used the search function before?
3. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

   #3 3rd August 2009, 01:07

   Never been done (I think), and will never be done.
4. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #4 3rd August 2009, 01:17

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mieran Never been done (I think), and will never be done.

   Gti-6 engine has been done many a time, also the xsara engine into a 106 rallye.
5. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

   #5 3rd August 2009, 01:18

   In a Saxo? I've never seen that.
   
   Links for progress threads etc?
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 3rd August 2009, 01:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mieran In a Saxo? I've never seen that. Links for progress threads etc?

   Saxos and 106s..
   
   Just cars I know have been done. Pug performance did a gti-6 in a saxo at least 2years ago, I was there when they were finishing it off.
   
   Not everyone who mods cars sits on forums and does progress threads
   
   The xsara s1 rallye, was Ryan cooke iirc on rallye reg, he bought it bodged and did alot of work, i stopped reading RR before he finished it mind.
   
   Then there was a forgiegn gti-6 saxo out at the ring when my mates went.
   
   Pug performance gti-6 106.
   
   
   
   
   

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7. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #7 3rd August 2009, 10:47

   what gets me is how people will see that and think woo it fits (even though its a lot of work)
   without realising the inlet is where the rad should be so then you need to either move or get a custom rad
   and you dont see the custom drivshafts
   gear linkages for the box
   throttle cable will be different
   wiring
   theres a lot to do
8. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

   #8 3rd August 2009, 10:53

   waste of time an money imo
9. firehorizon Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Kent Posts: 294 renault 5 ( gtt lookalike) peugeot 106 1.1 , saxo

   #9 3rd August 2009, 12:39

   defo a waste of money u might as well just buy a car thats already done or just buy a faster car simple as really.
10. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #10 3rd August 2009, 20:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTR_Andy easily done or not? anyone on here done it before? got my vtr ready for track DEATH! but the 8v engine in the vtr's just arnt fast enough even with a few mods.

    Yes seen it done ,but its not easy to do......
11. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #11 3rd August 2009, 20:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB without realising the inlet is where the rad should be so then you need to either move or get a custom rad

    this is the first thing i thought about. could you not use one of the custom short inlets the gti-6 guys use when they fit superchargers?
12. VTR_Andy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Southport Posts: 167 convert e46

    #12 3rd August 2009, 23:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan anyone used the search function before?

    first of all...cheers for your help, thats why i dont come on here or any other forums really. always some nob head on it. Thanks to the other members though who actually have given me abit of info about it. what engines would people recomend to put in a saxo? heard the MI16 out of a 406 goes pretty much straight in, obviously with a diffrent gear box and driveshafts etc...
13. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #13 3rd August 2009, 23:03

    just leave the vts engine in and tweak it imo
    the several k you could have a bigger lump with would get a few tasty bits on the vts lump and it wouldnt mess up the handeling with a heavy lump up front
14. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #14 3rd August 2009, 23:16

    Didn't think the MI16 was an easy conversion either tbh?
    Easiest and most cost effective conversion would be a VTS lump, or the newer JP4 lump out of 307's etc (1.6 16v). As Alex said, the money you would save in custom fabrication could be put towards some tasty tweaks instead
15. VTR_Andy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Southport Posts: 167 convert e46

    #15 7th August 2009, 23:49

    cheers guys, its only the vtr engine atm. was just looking into the xsara one before i opted to have the saxo vts lump again. already had a saxo vts though and just wanted something abit different! will have a think on what to do
16. smokinjones Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 halifax Posts: 119 vtr-s

    #16 8th August 2009, 00:02

    i was gonna do it but exhaust manifold positioning and custom drive shafts put me off big time, but would be fast and diffrent from the norm
17. hard_corejoeboy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo

    #17 8th August 2009, 00:07

    Hmm didn't know the 307's engine went in? What sort of power do they have and would it be costly?
18. AlexR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2004 Kunt & Sorrey Posts: 5763 Rep mobiles & Joes ma

    #18 8th August 2009, 00:07

    None of the XUs or DWs slot straight on by a long shot.
    
    The mounts don't match up or anything, there is very limited space.
    
    If you put it in correctly then the steering rack and bulkhead are in the way of the exhaust manifold, if you move it to solve that then it's quite far forwards. The sump sits very low also. You can only fit the 5 speed gearbox as the 6 is just miles too long.
    
    I was going to do it for a laugh and i might still but just as a project on the side.
19. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #19 8th August 2009, 13:07

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20. stephen34 Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 yateley Posts: 776 mrk 2 vtr cammed more to come :)

    #20 8th August 2009, 13:15

    vts or gti cams gd air flow and back presser with a gd remap = sex power
21. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #21 8th August 2009, 19:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTR_Andy first of all...cheers for your help, thats why i dont come on here or any other forums really. always some nob head on it.

    Better to be a knob head who can use the search function and find all the info on a subject than one who doesnt I guess
22. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #22 8th August 2009, 19:58

    Anyone put VTS rims on a saxo vtr and is it possible?
23. smokinjones Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 halifax Posts: 119 vtr-s

    #23 8th August 2009, 20:04

    sorry mate cant be done tire sizes, offsets ect and the police would av ya for it
24. dom85 Newbie Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 2

    #24 9th August 2009, 23:12

    supercharge a vts
    i used to have one was about 250 hp alot went into it tho
    
    its still about somewere minus the engine
25. VTR_Andy Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Southport Posts: 167 convert e46

    #25 11th August 2009, 22:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan Better to be a knob head who can use the search function and find all the info on a subject than one who doesnt I guess

    laffin G. you seem to know alot anyway.
    
    
    
    
    Prick.
26. normy_knights Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Normanton, West Yorkshire Posts: 174 106 Quiksilver

    #26 11th August 2009, 23:01

    it would be like sh1t off a shovell
27. Robert12345 Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2016 lincs Posts: 104 Citroen saxo, fist punto sporting

    #27 8th March 2017, 19:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mochachino Anyone put VTS rims on a saxo vtr and is it possible?

    Would need new rear axle and new arms maybe?
    
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28. sri_130 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 Doyncaster Posts: 783

    #28 10th March 2017, 12:20

    Thread from the dead!