Hid kit with angels.

1. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

   #1 21st August 2009, 14:06

   I might be getting hid kit and have got angels. Ive read on here that they can melt the rings? But my mate had them in his focus with angels and were fine and they were the cheap £50 ones off ebay and 10k ones. Would i be ok with them in?
2. Baynesey Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 canterbury, kent Posts: 1115 mk2 Vtr

   #2 21st August 2009, 14:27

   i dont think its the ring you have to be worried about its the len's i believe as they are plastic not glass, maybe wrong.
3. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

   #3 21st August 2009, 14:37

   i'm pretty sure 10k is still pretty blue, watch you dont get pulled by the fuzz 6 or 8 is better imo
4. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

   #4 21st August 2009, 15:23

   Its a 6k kit i might be getting. I thought was rings. Can you get bulbs that have low heat from them?
5. Graemep Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2004 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 11649 FN2 Civic Type-R

   #5 21st August 2009, 15:29

   its the plastic lends you need to watch not the ring
   
   the heat from the HiDs will melt the lens
6. Marcus000 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Burnley Posts: 596 VTR with teh sexy rims!

   #6 21st August 2009, 15:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Graeme its the plastic lends you need to watch not the ring the heat from the HiDs will melt the lens

   HID's are no hotter than normal halogen bulbs, it's the UV rays that crack the plastic, not the heat.
7. denni Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 exmouth Posts: 1714 saxo furio mango

   #7 21st August 2009, 17:26

   its the lenses but there is a very simple way around this... take the standard headlights take the GLASS lense off and take the plastic one off the angels. then swap them over job done
8. Mint-VTR Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Sawbridgeworth Posts: 1883 Black VTR, Clio 172. Gaz Coilovers, Stealth Exhaus

   #8 21st August 2009, 17:38

   i have yet to see a set of damaged angels caused by hids!
9. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #9 21st August 2009, 18:14

   Many people do get away with fitting these HID kits as its hard to tell from the outside they are fitted unless there set poorly or are a daft colour. But the fact remains that there strictly illegal to use on the road. Blue headlights are also illegal. Bluest HID fitted to a factory car is 5800k as fitted to some high end saloon cars and the odd 4x4, most cars come with HID bulbs closer to 4000k. Anything much outside this range may get the police attention. Possibly also worth noting your insurance company is unlikely to pay out if you are in a accident and they work out your car was not road legal.
10. Westyfield2 Newbie Joined: Feb 2009 Bath Posts: 24 2002 Saxo VTR

    #10 21st August 2009, 19:17

    See this thread: http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=224963
    
    The bit that melts on angel eyes is the actual plastic front of the headlights. I think the rings will melt as well, but they arent the main problem.
    
    The cause of the melting isn't the heat, but the UV in the HID kit.
    
    Generally speaking; a cheap eBay HID kit will not be UV protected (so will cause melting) but an expensive HID kit will be UV protected and therefore is fine to use.
    
    For example:
    Autobulbs Direct say that "All the bulbs on our website including HID and high wattage bulbs are UV protected to ensure they are compatible with plastic headlights. The addition of Xenon gas does not cause the bulbs to be hotter than standard bulbs. The only reason you would cause any damage to your headlights with bulbs is if they are poor quality and have no UV protection."
    HIDS4U say on certain product pages "The bulbs have been UV cut to prevent damage to plastic lenses".
11. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #11 22nd August 2009, 13:43

    So i just need some uv protected bulbs? How much and what set are good?
12. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

    #12 22nd August 2009, 15:04

    hids direct sell very good kits and not too expensive either..
13. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #13 22nd August 2009, 17:35

    ive got some now. The bulbs wont fit into holes for dipped beams.
14. stephen11 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2009 fife Posts: 411 mk2 icelandic grey saxo vtr

    #14 22nd August 2009, 22:33

    10k in imo they look good had them on my last car
15. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #15 23rd August 2009, 13:44

    I need to know what bulbs will fit into my angels with the hids anyone?? The h4 bulbs slightly too big to go in. Apparently you can get the smaller bulbs for the angels. Need to know off someone that already done it.
16. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

    #16 23rd August 2009, 22:39

    u need to find out wat bulbs the angels take, as they might not be h4 fitment.
17. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #17 24th August 2009, 00:29

    Angels are H1.
18. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #18 24th August 2009, 17:29

    So i just need some h1 bulbs? Can you recommend some good ones which are uv protected also? The kit comes with 6k bulbs but my mates telling me to get 10k.
19. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

    #19 24th August 2009, 17:34

    im running 8k in angels with no probs at all but wouldnt go higher than that
20. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #20 24th August 2009, 18:01

    the "k" is just the colour....8k is bluish and white is 6k
    
    and you need a UV protected H1 HID kit.
21. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #21 24th August 2009, 20:47

    Is it not the bulbs which are uv protected? All the other parts is the inverter and wiring then you have the bulbs.
22. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #22 25th August 2009, 02:19

    yeah but you buy a complete kit ??
23. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #23 25th August 2009, 08:35

    Well ive already got a kit, will have to go see if can find which make it is as not got with me atm.
24. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #24 26th August 2009, 18:49

    Is this what i need to turn my h4 kit into a h1 for them to fit my angels?
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H1-10000K-HID-...d=p3286.c0.m14
25. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #25 26th August 2009, 19:07

    i reckon so, although im not 100% sure.
    also 10,000k is quite blue most people get 8000k
    
    
    
    
26. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #26 26th August 2009, 20:29

    Ye i was going to get the 8k ones but just wanted to make sure that was the right things i needed. Will be ordering tommorrow i think.
27. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #27 27th August 2009, 00:13

    im not 100% sure they are right, but they look it...
28. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #28 29th August 2009, 17:16

    They cametoday and the bulbs are too big to fit into the holes. Need just slightly smaller bulbs. Please can anyone help or give me a idea of some v good bulbs to fit as these are awfull and can only see about 10-15 metres in front of me. Can you adjust them as cant see anywhere that you can?
29. Claki Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 Horsham Posts: 1855 Leon Cupra 200 TDI

    #29 31st August 2009, 11:26

    where are you buying these kits from, im looking for 8k
30. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #30 2nd September 2009, 08:15

    Ebay but i swapped the kit for a piperx viper but needed h1 bulbs but the bulbs are same as hids and wont fit into the holes for bulbs but know people have put them into angels and want to know how.