saxo180 ***200bhp CARBON'D B16b PROJECT*** SPANNER IN THE WORKS #254

  1. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #1
    As some of you may know I recently sold my magazine cover featured VTS to make way for a more practical sports car.

    The idea was to get hold of a good condition RX8 but that idea has now been ninned in favour of a new saxo project.

    Pics of old car through it's various guises in the 5 years I owned it:








































  2. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #2
    So, onto the new project...

    Well the car is a MK1 VTS in black with a genuine 58k miles on it. It's currently a shell but that gives me the perfect excuse to start with a clean sheet!

    The only mods it has so far is Spax suspension, full roll cage, LHD wiper set up (which was originally installed to make way for big trumpets on a TB set up) and a Streamline carbon fibre roof.

    As it stands:

















  3. Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1267 03 EP3
    #3
    Its actually coming to life!!

    This thread ftw.

    Joe
  4. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #4
    The Plan.

    Well in a nutshell I want to produce a 200bhp n/a 1.6 to use on track and on the dragstrip. Being a n/a 1.6 means I have a decent chance of dominating group a.

    How will I get 200 bhp?

    I plan on copying a guy on RR and using the 185bhp Civic Type R EK9 B16b lump with throttle bodies and standalone ECU.

    The saxo:

    I plan on keeping the saxo looking totally OE from outside but there will be mods if you look closely enough: It will have carbon bonnet and boot to match the roof (but will all be painted apart from a stripe of carbon you will be able to see through the paint going straight over the car), VTR rims, VTR side badges, polycarb windows all round, single lightweight bucket seat and so on.....

    We will see the return of M8X DJ, which has been on retention since selling my other car.

    I will also source the lightest possible components and ditch every square inch of unwanted metal, wiring loom, etc etc.

    PS, I will also start work on it in the new year when it's on home turf.....
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  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR
    #5
    whaaaaa??
    Craig you kept this secret from me? not happy!
    Project looks great, carbon roof aswell! Im sure it will be great once you worked your magic.

    EDIT - VTEC kicked in











    yo
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz
    #6
    Looks fun kregg, best make this 'un a quick 'un
  7. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #7
    Cheers peeps.

    Hoping to see mid-high 13s on the dragstrip and a 0-60 of around 5-5.5s
  8. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #8
    Superb !!
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #9
    where did you pick that little bargain up from Craig?!!
  10. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    where did you pick that little bargain up from Craig?!!
    Adam Highfield
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts
    #11
    Sounds like a good project Craig. Will be watching.
    Carbon roofs are sexy. And very light. But mainly sexy
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #12
    Nice Great chassis to start with thats for sure!But the question i really want to ask is... will it be ready for the ring in august?
  13. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #13
    just dont paint the wheels orange lol!!
  14. Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2009 Somewhere in Bonnyland Posts: 10669 Super clean mk5 Golf Gti and 306 hdi
    #14
    good way to start mate... nice clean slate
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac
    #15
    shall be watching this with interest!
  16. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
    Sounds like a good project Craig. Will be watching.
    Carbon roofs are sexy. And very light. But mainly sexy
    Sex sells apparently

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    Nice Great chassis to start with thats for sure!But the question i really want to ask is... will it be ready for the ring in august?
    unfortunately not mate. Probably a 2 year project if I'm being realistic. I hope to have it ready for fcs2011
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    just dont paint the wheels orange lol!!
    Totally standard silver vtr rims for track use and my slicked 205 rims on the strip

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by D--R--E--W View Post
    good way to start mate... nice clean slate
    exactly mate. It means I can be as wild as my imagination!
  17. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Tonbridge, Kent Posts: 716 2001 VTS
    #17
    This looks like it will be worth a read. Carbon roof looks beautiful.
  18. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #18
    why vtr rims tho craig? crap for cooling, and cant use BIG breaks without using spacers which is gay.

    Fair enough, sounds like its going to be a proper jobbie, something i really want to do once im settled back in the UK!
  19. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Suffolk Posts: 7551 N/A 200bhp+ per ton 106 gti
    #19
    Can't wait!! will be watching very closely, another potential show stoppa craigy boy
  20. Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2009 liverpool Posts: 347 saxo 1.1 =dead 1.2 16v clio mk2 ph2
    #20
    likin the carbon roof mate
  21. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    why vtr rims tho craig? crap for cooling, and cant use BIG breaks without using spacers which is gay.

    Fair enough, sounds like its going to be a proper jobbie, something i really want to do once im settled back in the UK!
    I'll do either 266s with uprated mc or wilwood lites.

    Want vtr rims so I don't have to spend a fortune on silly sized tyres and for the stealth look!
  22. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Button Moon Posts: 3129 306 gti6
    #22
    looks cool!
  23. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R
    #23
    like it!! seen this shell in the flesh and its second to none!!! such a shame adam didnt finish it but your plan sound more than interesting!!
  24. Newbie Joined: Nov 2009 birmingham Posts: 18 Mango Westcoast FTW :)
    #24
    gonna be watchin this very closely carbon roof looks awsome
  25. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #25
    Whats Group A? - some drag championship?
  26. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 Cowbit, LINCS Posts: 2688 Audi S3
    #26
    Plans sound amazing, will be keeping an eye on this in the new year
  27. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    Whats Group A? - some drag championship?
    Just the class of car. Lowest class possible. Basically na cars up to 1600cc
  28. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS
    #28
    Sounds like a good project mate, will be keeping an eye on this!

    still love the orange on black! thats where i want to be at with my black VTS, sorry if i'm copying matey but i think it looks the tits
  29. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #29
    what competition is it? Sounds interesting
    I think I might have an inlet manifold for throttlebodies for the honda engine sitting somewhere! Graeme bought it when he was going to fit a B16 engine to a 205...
  30. Forum Section Moderator Joined: Jan 2004 Abingdon, Oxfordshire, United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5082 RX8, Cliosport 197
    #30
    looks like a good project buddy, love the carbon fibre roof. will the civic type R engine have to be mounted in the boot / will you be making it rearwheel drive

    If its anying to go by your last saxo it will be mint
  31. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #31
    the engine will just drop in the front with custom mounts i'd imagine...not a lot of work really.
  32. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #32
    I'm actually drooling while looking at that CF roof skin.
  33. Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR
    #33
    Going to be a epic project by the looks of it, good luck with it Craig
  34. Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Truro, Cornwall Posts: 188 '52 VTR, Black, 15" Dezent RB, JVC R901 Head Unit
    #34
    looks like an awesome project - i'll be keeping an eye on this thread
  35. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #35
    B16 is a 1.6, no bigger than the vts lump, but delivers 185bhp in stock form on the B16b variant. Also the box has an LSD from the factory and 0-60 in the civic is reported to be c.5.7 seconds. Imagine that in a lightweight saxo shell
  36. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    I'll do either 266s with uprated mc or wilwood lites.

    Want vtr rims so I don't have to spend a fortune on silly sized tyres and for the stealth look!
    not seen any 266 wilwoods
    seen high specs but needed cutom brackets making ect and the guy just sold them on as its a lot of hassle ect

    tbh though personally id just buy some 15s

    as for stealth hiding the cage is a good one to work on lol
  37. Forum Section Moderator Joined: Jan 2004 Abingdon, Oxfordshire, United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5082 RX8, Cliosport 197
    #37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    the engine will just drop in the front with custom mounts i'd imagine...not a lot of work really.
    sweet im surprised more people havent done this then rather than going down the route of a vts conversion. cost wise if you were just going to be leaving the civic engine standard is it a lot more than a standard vts conversion
  38. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2005 Teesside Posts: 8800 focus tdci, clio v6
    #38
    epic craig!!!!

    sounds a right plan! you sourced this engine yet? what custom parts are you looking at having to buy?

    standard body with silver superleggeras sounds muchos better
  39. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 skipton northyorks Posts: 5275 clio 172 exclusive track toy
    #39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    B16 is a 1.6, no bigger than the vts lump, but delivers 185bhp in stock form on the B16b variant. Also the box has an LSD from the factory and 0-60 in the civic is reported to be c.5.7 seconds. Imagine that in a lightweight saxo shell
    milgate racing in huddesfield will help u out with the engine mate ,they no them backwards an run sum very quick road legal drag cars ,u will easy get 200bhp
  40. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield
    #40
    Awesome Craig, im really excited about this project!!!!!


    Let me know if you need any help with the detailling when it gets to that stage.


    James
  41. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous
    #41
    geeetup, will be a good build thread...
  42. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic
    #42
    Should be a good project mate. Shouldnt be too hard as allot of people have measured it all up on a saxo/106.

    No need for expensive bodies on that engine. Just use a single TB can achieve in excess of 220 bhp.
  43. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 2770
    #43
    Can't wait to see this finished, if its any where near as high a standard as your old car it will be truely amazing! Carbon fibre roof looks the dogs bollocks

    One question: How come on loads of the pics of your first sax is it missing the chevrons on the front?

    ~Mike
  44. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #44
    I like the plans Craig

    Id definatly say some small 4 pot's for the spec. What sort of suspension spec you looking at? Whats the job of the roof look like also?

    Sorry for all the questions lol!
  45. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #45
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    not seen any 266 wilwoods
    seen high specs but needed cutom brackets making ect and the guy just sold them on as its a lot of hassle ect

    tbh though personally id just buy some 15s

    as for stealth hiding the cage is a good one to work on lol
    wilwood make the midilite to fit under mini 13s and will produce saxo brackets for an extra £120

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dsh85 View Post
    epic craig!!!!

    sounds a right plan! you sourced this engine yet? what custom parts are you looking at having to buy?

    standard body with silver superleggeras sounds muchos better
    had thought about superlegs but want a totally standard looking exterior

    not sure about the fabricated parts yet but my powder coating company also take on fabricating

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by andywiddss1 View Post
    milgate racing in huddesfield will help u out with the engine mate ,they no them backwards an run sum very quick road legal drag cars ,u will easy get 200bhp
    I'm on it

    will respond to all other qs tonight when I'm not on the mobile
  46. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS
    #46
    Post #1 = ASW

    New car looks amazing though!!!!! cant wait to see this in the flesh at future shows!
  47. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #47
    Wilwood and Hi-Spec do 4 pots that are 285mm and will fit under 14s. They both dont run dust seals that the only downside.
  48. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp
    #48
    Very nice mate. If you need anything for the car, drop me a pm.
  49. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC
    #49
    Its nice to see someone doing something out of the ordinary on this site, well done and good luck i hope it all comes together
  50. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #50
    if you need any hints/tips etc pm me as i did a LOT of looking into this a few months ago.. id fit a b18cr though
  51. Established Member Joined: May 2008 Liverpool Posts: 1947 Ford Fiesta MK6 ST FL
    #51
    sounds interesting arent you bothering with an RX-8 now?
  52. Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis
    #52
    Vtec sax y0!

    Cant wait to see how this turns out!
  53. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2009 falkirk Posts: 276 ep3 civic, rwd vtec saxo W.i.p
    #53
    Sounds like its going to be a minted wee project once done and liking the unusual choice of engine. Nice to see im not the only weight obsessed person on the site. Good luck
  54. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts
    #54
    Sure there was a set of 4 pots for sale very recently that would fit under 14" rims. Cant remember where - probably rallye register?

    For the engine, would it not be possible to make a cradle/semi space frame to the engine to sit on, which would then be attched to the front bulkhead/chassis legs.
  55. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4928 Clio 197 Cup
    #55
    You must be insane.
  56. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 leeds Posts: 2430 05' Clio 182
    #56
    Tmsport seem to be good with engines and things and there near by too
  57. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts
    #57
    This is gunner be awesome craig
  58. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2006 Tyldesley, Manchester Posts: 5276 1.Saxo VTR 2.Saxo180
    #58
    Liking it craig looks like its going to be awesome. what costs are you going to be looking at?
  59. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 norfolk Posts: 3116 my drifter M3 rep :D saxo vts eh glad its gone,
    #59
    wow nice saxo. vtec saxo ftw
    ill be looking on this thread defo
  60. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #60
    I can't wait to see the engine transplant mate! should be fast as
  61. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 Bradford Posts: 26687 '15 Focus ST-2
    #61
    Insane for getting another Saxo, but you know my feelings mate.

    Very interested to see this.
  62. Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP
    #62
    Awesome craig

    Sleeper ftw
  63. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.
    #63
    Sweet!

    Is the person you are copying Kiwi by any chance?
  64. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #64
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aron View Post
    Should be a good project mate. Shouldnt be too hard as allot of people have measured it all up on a saxo/106.

    No need for expensive bodies on that engine. Just use a single TB can achieve in excess of 220 bhp.
    I like the sound of tb's tbh and from what I've read the torque power band is a lot stronger with them rather than the single body.

    Not really that bothered about peak power, what I want is something that will kick me in the back all the way to 9.5k rpm!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MikeYost View Post
    Can't wait to see this finished, if its any where near as high a standard as your old car it will be truely amazing! Carbon fibre roof looks the dogs bollocks

    One question: How come on loads of the pics of your first sax is it missing the chevrons on the front?

    ~Mike
    They were taken fresh out of the bodyshop and I'd just not got round to/decided whether to put orange chevs back in or do them black

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    I like the plans Craig

    Id definatly say some small 4 pot's for the spec. What sort of suspension spec you looking at? Whats the job of the roof look like also?

    Sorry for all the questions lol!
    I'm taking the sellers word for it but it is meant to be absolutely flawless!

    Want to leave the Spax suspension on for the time being but may invest in some solid rear struts for drag days, failing that then prob the same set up as my old one - Billie B8/GMC combination.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygti View Post
    if you need any hints/tips etc pm me as i did a LOT of looking into this a few months ago.. id fit a b18cr though
    B18 long term but for now B16 so I can play with the little boys on drag days

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ocego_VTR View Post
    sounds interesting arent you bothering with an RX-8 now?
    No mate, can't find a decent one for my budget so we're going to replace the missus' car instead and I'll keep my 2 saxos

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
    Sure there was a set of 4 pots for sale very recently that would fit under 14" rims. Cant remember where - probably rallye register?

    For the engine, would it not be possible to make a cradle/semi space frame to the engine to sit on, which would then be attched to the front bulkhead/chassis legs.
    It looks as though a semi space frame would be used but welded straight to the bulkhead/chassis. It'll all be a bit "trial and error" to fit it but I'll do whatever isn't going to upset the balance too much

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    You must be insane.
    You knows it.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jaytee View Post
    Liking it craig looks like its going to be awesome. what costs are you going to be looking at?
    No idea tbh! Hopefully no more than 6k all in

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Insane for getting another Saxo, but you know my feelings mate.

    Very interested to see this.
    It'll kill an RX8 by the time it's finished.

    And the wife's vRS

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jackman View Post
    Sweet!

    Is the person you are copying Kiwi by any chance?
    It is mate. He's made it look simple so I'll be sure to speak to him a fair bit over the course of the next year or so!
  65. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719
    #65
    Paint is extra weight. A bodyshop will use a good few liters of it (inc. primer and clear coat) so if you're aiming for super light weight then leave the CF exposed.
  66. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #66
    why worry about a spaceframe on the front. My custom engine mounts were simply welded on to the right points on the chassis. I had four made for my engine and gearbox and they were pretty straightforward. Then all you really need are custom drivehafts. It would be a lot cheaper and would not add extra weight or anything.
    Its not totally easy to see but theres my top engine mount...



    Kev
  67. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex . Posts: 5690 Subaru Impreza Wrx
    #67
    Wow this will be a great thread to keep a eye on.The plans sound awsome and its not going to be like any other saxo i have seen.Good luck with it all!

    ps.I see somebody cant move on from the saxo bug.
  68. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Meerkat Harborough Posts: 2638 Saxo vtr mk 2
    #68
    £6k to build up to high spec from scratch including buying the shell? Yikes.

    Good luck to you dude! Will keep looking in
  69. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #69
    I spent £4k ish on getting a group A cage fitted, extra chassis welding, lightening, custom strengthening, engine mounts, custom front suspension plus custom rear turrets. You dont have to pay stupid money for custom work. My car had about 70 man hours spent on it.


    kev
  70. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Meerkat Harborough Posts: 2638 Saxo vtr mk 2
    #70
    agreed, but buying and adding all the components and all the hidden details/little amountsl add up which im guessing you know . Depends what spec you go for i suppose!

    Not saying it cant be done
  71. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #71
    well if the chassis is left rather basic to start then I'd say £9k min with the throttlebodied engine and all the carbon panels + painting unless you can pull in favours..good luck though! Watch out for rolling costs if that is important.
    Remember you probably want something like a plate diff as well to get the traction down, sticky tyres etc to get the traction.
  72. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Shrewsbury Posts: 642 Saxo VTS
    #72
    im liking this craig i will defo be keeping an eye on this and im glad my car will be being built to a high standard as when i had it !!
  73. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #73
    Sounds like the blueprints are set now then Craig. Wish you the best of luck with the project.
  74. Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo
    #74
    i think it's safe to say that this will be the most watched thread..until pred gets a new car

    some great pics of your previous car mate, interesting to see how it progressed through the years
  75. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Blackheath London Posts: 538 Peugeot 205 gti 1.9 (LAD engine).
    #75
    Would it not be cheaper to build something like a Supercharged Gti-6 or something along those lines? Would look way mote stealthy and be a darn sight quicker... potentially cheaper too.

    Fairplay for sticking with what you love i guess.
  76. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 Derby Posts: 3619 Mk2 VTS
    #76
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joehow12 View Post
    Would it not be cheaper to build something like a Supercharged Gti-6 or something along those lines? Would look way mote stealthy and be a darn sight quicker... potentially cheaper too.

    Fairplay for sticking with what you love i guess.
    Then it would be 2000cc and boosted. And even then still cost 7-8k for high boost. But 450 ponies would be fun.

    Why not look for steel wheels instead? Much lighter than VTRs, unsprung weight = bad weight.
  77. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Blackheath London Posts: 538 Peugeot 205 gti 1.9 (LAD engine).
    #77
    Yea it would be 2000cc and boosted...everyone has to grow up someday.
  78. Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1267 03 EP3
    #78
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joehow12 View Post
    Would it not be cheaper to build something like a Supercharged Gti-6 or something along those lines? Would look way mote stealthy and be a darn sight quicker... potentially cheaper too.

    Fairplay for sticking with what you love i guess.
    Because he wants to be in the A catagory on the strip, and you cant have anything over a 1600cc engine.

    And most people would choose one of the b16 varients (in this case b16b) over the majority of the 1600cc engines around, simply because of their reliability and their performance (Vtec y0).

    Joe

  79. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 Derby Posts: 3619 Mk2 VTS
    #79
    I don't know much about the engine codes from ricer wagons, my friend is currently rebuilding his DC2 engine, UK spec, and that currently makes 198bhp on the dyno, hoping for around 210-220 in the new year with the cams.

    Are they 1800 or 1600s?
  80. Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor
    #80
    Sounds an awesome project Craig. Look forward to watching all the progress mate.
  81. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup
    #81
    Sounds mental mate! this will be a very good project to keep an eye on
  82. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Ashford, Kent Posts: 3140 Version Très Sportive
    #82
    very much looking forward to this =P
  83. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts
    #83
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    I don't know much about the engine codes from ricer wagons, my friend is currently rebuilding his DC2 engine, UK spec, and that currently makes 198bhp on the dyno, hoping for around 210-220 in the new year with the cams.

    Are they 1800 or 1600s?
    B16 is 1.6, B18 is 1.8.

    Think the 'teggy is a 1.8 litre
  84. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2006 Tyldesley, Manchester Posts: 5276 1.Saxo VTR 2.Saxo180
    #84
    Yeah the DC2 is a 1.8 litre. Really am looking forward to seeing how this turns out. Give it a couple of years Craig and i might buy this one off you as well ;-)
  85. Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25
    #85
    oh no!
    more long hours wasted reading another awesome project thread
  86. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini
    #86
    this sounds excellent, i will definately be following this
  87. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Kent Posts: 602 R53 MCS
    #87
    I shall be keeping my eye on this! Good plans!
  88. Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 torquay (England) Posts: 1993 supercharged vts. 1.1 saxo. accord type r
    #88
    i have been talkin with my m8, who had a ek9 as he has the engine going spare, and i have a spare saxo shell, we are also thinking about putting the b16b into it, but were looking int mateing a b20 bottom end with the 16 head, to counter the low down torque issue of the b16b,
    reason for spare engine =

    the engine and gearbox ar fine luckily, will be keeping an eye on this, and will be starting a thread ourselves soon
  89. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543
    #89
    2k views and basically nothing in here.. This is gonna be Huuuuuuuuuuuge! Good luck with it Craig be cool to see... ohh and fast lol.
  90. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #90
    No real progress being made at the moment as I can't collect the car until the New Year, however I'm torn between doing a Mk2 front end conversion or sticking with the Mk1.

    Reason being it is going to be super light and the Mk2 fg bonnet I had on my old VTS will be top of the shopping list if I do Mk2 it.

    (also I have to admit I prefer the look of the Mk2 front end - and it means I could also paint the cage orange and do another set of wheels orange if I want )
  91. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #91
    less room round the mk2 engine bay mate, which might restrict you later on!

    nice conversion, though i would have considered a different engine!
  92. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield
    #92
    Mk2 conversion Ftw imo Craig.
  93. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #93
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    No real progress being made at the moment as I can't collect the car until the New Year, however I'm torn between doing a Mk2 front end conversion or sticking with the Mk1.

    Reason being it is going to be super light and the Mk2 fg bonnet I had on my old VTS will be top of the shopping list if I do Mk2 it.

    (also I have to admit I prefer the look of the Mk2 front end - and it means I could also paint the cage orange and do another set of wheels orange if I want )
    I'd like to see it kept mk1 just cos not many cars that have this much work done seem to be mk1's... Definatly do the orange cage and wheels again though, it's like your trademark
  94. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos
    #94
    keep it mk1! they look far meaner!! gunna be a good project!
  95. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2006 Inverness - Scotland Posts: 8294 4th Impreza of the year - 391bhp - Audi S4 Avant,
    #95
    Your the man.

    Bookmarked this badboy.
  96. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup
    #96
    Agree'd mk2 all the way dude
  97. Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 cheshire Posts: 1314
    #97
    Mad project.

    Keep it mk1, less on the road now, and will be a future classic.
  98. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #98
    orange with black details, wheels and cage.

    'nuff said.

    sounds interesting with the engine choice. keeping the JDM/JC fans happy but staying french
  99. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts
    #99
    Mk1 looks better imo, but I think you should do another MK2.
    I want the quickest MK1 round here
  100. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 Bradford Posts: 26687 '15 Focus ST-2
    #100
    Keep it MK1 mate - to me looks more of a sleeper.
  101. Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Lancaster Posts: 312 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio
    #101
    Love this car so much ,so jealous if only i had the money to modify mine like that =]
  102. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 st.austell Posts: 2549 106 quiksilver
    #102
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Keep it MK1 mate - to me looks more of a sleeper.
    Yeah but surely if he's CF loads he won't want it looking like a sleeper? or i have i completely not understood thsi thread? lol

    I think you should mk2 convert it!!!!
  103. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #103
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by James106 View Post
    Yeah but surely if he's CF loads he won't want it looking like a sleeper? or i have i completely not understood thsi thread? lol

    I think you should mk2 convert it!!!!
    I did say I would paint the carbon
  104. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 st.austell Posts: 2549 106 quiksilver
    #104
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    I did say I would paint the carbon
    I told you i hadn't read it properly!

    Still...MK2
  105. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 falkirk Posts: 498 2002 gold saxo vtr
    #105
    looks amazing ive got that fastcar looks class
  106. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Mansfield Posts: 6663 Astra Coupe Edition 100
    #106
    If you keep Mk1, go for Morrette's imo.

    As for black and orange, you're last car looked stunning... But i don't think you should repeat it. Go for something different this time. Even if it's black on black.
  107. Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 130
    #107
    +100 on mk1.

    He did say that the carbon was only going to be exposed in certain areas, so the sleeper idea should still work. It can never be 100% sleeper, so a few minor details shouldnt be a problem
  108. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Dublin Posts: 4359 Honda S2000
    #108
    man this is gonna be amazing!!!!

    roll on january!!
    the old vts was epic too
  109. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #109
    anyone read my reason for a mk2 lol

    MK2 SAXOS HAVE LESS ROOM ROUND ENGINE BAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  110. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    anyone read my reason for a mk2 lol

    MK2 SAXOS HAVE LESS ROOM ROUND ENGINE BAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Good shout dude.

    Oh, and I wasn't being serious about black and orange
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  111. Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456
    #111
    cadburys purple dude.
  112. L-plater Joined: Aug 2009 West Bromwich Posts: 49 Saxo VTs
    #112
    Love the car mate
  113. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #113
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Good shout dude.

    Oh, and I wasn't being serious about black and orange
    no problems.....

    i had no choice but to got for fugly morettes on my mk2 purely because the charger bracker will foul on back of headlight.....so removed drivers inner lense of morette and voila! and then remove passenger inner lense for coolidge

    and when i look at my mk1 posi engine bay....theres loads more room as slam panel is straight, where as mark 2 comes inwards at both sides
  114. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Worthing Posts: 5660 Jap crap
    #114
    I like carbon.... I also like pictures
  115. Established Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1979
    #115
    Nice project you got going here craig!!

    Any more info or pics to this other saxo with engine conversion??

    Links pm me if ya want
  116. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 Derby Posts: 3619 Mk2 VTS
    #116
    What are the actual engine plans then? Just talking to my friend about them, he was saying 'just put b18c crank, rods and pistons in a b16b and its a 1.8'
  117. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #117
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cupra-Craig View Post
    Nice project you got going here craig!!

    Any more info or pics to this other saxo with engine conversion??

    Links pm me if ya want
    All u did was go on rallye register and search for kiwi.

    He's stuck his in a rally 106

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jorge- View Post
    What are the actual engine plans then? Just talking to my friend about them, he was saying 'just put b18c crank, rods and pistons in a b16b and its a 1.8'
    nice plan but I want to keep it 1600 for now so i can run in group a on the dragstrip
  118. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander
    #118
    Morning Craig
  119. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz
    #119
    kregg, i hope this isnt going to be another 100 pages with 1 picture threaddd
  120. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..
    #120
    Glad to see your staying with the saxo scene bud...................and new project............
  121. Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 488
    #121
    finally got round to seeing what you were banging on on about with this shell mate. looks like a real good base. i;m gonna have to up my game somewhat.

    me and paul from ghost developments were discussing the conversion over a brew the other day, he's confident we have the means to do it. he can weld, i'm stupid enough to try and his mate is a wiring guru. oh and i know a lad whos dad makes custom drive/propshafts for a living. so could be more than a little tempting.

    rumour has it tho that tghe b16b is a destroked b18 so if that'd fit i could get an aero deck for everything we'd need then hack the shit out of it and break the rest. lsd as standard too. sounds tempting eh?

    once the blue one is on the road i have some shit to sort on the white rallye, take some more wire out the loom, rebuild the beam, paint the interior etc then i might look into this conversion some more. ya know, unless i can wedge in an evo lump lol
  122. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Braintree Posts: 102 peugeot 106
    #122
    cant wait for this to come together! good luck with it all
  123. Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 chesterfield. tupton Posts: 1501 saxo vtr escort rs
    #123
    you gonna have a right weapon on your hands there matey.
  124. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #124
    go for mk1.... something different. looks meaner
  125. Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2004 İstanbul Turkey Posts: 266 Saxo VTS
    #125
    Nice....
  126. Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 gainsborough Posts: 2337 Vectra 2.0t
    #126
    nice you must be crazy lol loving it cant wait to see it live but watch out forthem ebay superchipped corsas currently dominating everyone jokes lol
  127. Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Port Talbot Posts: 279 Citroen Saxo VTS MK2. Lotus Elise Series 2
    #127
    shame its a mk1
  128. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #128
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hudson701 View Post
    shame its a mk1
    Why? I like the mk1 shape, I also like the mk2 though
  129. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Mansfield Posts: 6663 Astra Coupe Edition 100
    #129
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Why? I like the mk1 shape, I also like the mk2 though
    After having Toyah's mk1 sat on my drive for last few day's i now kinda wish mine was a mk1 Look's so much neater and 'racey'.

    If (god forbid) i ever happened to have a front ender in mine, i'd seriously consider a mk1 front end transplant!
  130. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Why? I like the mk1 shape, I also like the mk2 though
    AND as i found out yesterday, as it's a mk1 you can put as big and thirsty an engine in it as you want and the DVLA can't tax you more for it.

    I rang them to see if fitting a newer engine to mine would drop the tax as the emissions would be lower. The guy said because it was registered before March 2001 (introduction of he new licence plates) the tax is fixed and any engine swaps etc. do not affect the level of tax payable on the car.

    Rear engined 3.0L twin turbo anyone?
  131. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Essex, Oxford Posts: 537 106 xsi 16v, 106 diesel slaggggg
    #131
    ^^ that cant be true as when i registered my xsi as a 1.6 engine i have since been charged the 1.6 tax band and not the 1.4....

    also if u dont declare it your insurance wont be valid as most bring it up on a database.....
  132. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33
    #132
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stealth106 View Post
    ^^ that cant be true as when i registered my xsi as a 1.6 engine i have since been charged the 1.6 tax band and not the 1.4....

    also if u dont declare it your insurance wont be valid as most bring it up on a database.....
    very true!
  133. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #133
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stealth106 View Post
    ^^ that cant be true as when i registered my xsi as a 1.6 engine i have since been charged the 1.6 tax band and not the 1.4....

    also if u dont declare it your insurance wont be valid as most bring it up on a database.....
    It is true mate. I rang the DVLA and spoke to a guy called Graham. i asked "If i fitted a newer, lower emission engine to my car, would this lower the tax i would pay each year." His reply was exactly "No, Your car is on the old registration plates and was registered pre-March 2001. This engine you fit won't make a difference to the tax you pay."


    Thinking about it now though, how would they have worked out the tax to start with, it must be off engine size??? I think you may be right... I'll have to ring them back! Unless they use engine size brackets i.e. less than 1L upto 1.4L is one price then 1.4L uto 2L is another price, for example.

    I'll deffo ring them back later and see what they say about that. You got me thinking now.
  134. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #134
    Mark 1 FTW!

    Oh and the 1600 Honda vs 1800 PSA Saxo should be fun in 2011
  135. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #135
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    Mark 1 FTW!

    Oh and the 1600 Honda vs 1800 PSA Saxo should be fun in 2011
    Who's building an 1800????
  136. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost
    #136
    meee 1800 vtec ftw
  137. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #137
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by moxy89 View Post
    meee 1800 vtec ftw
    Front engine, front drive?
  138. Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Hereford Posts: 1381 Indigo 16v Rallye + 2 VTS's
    #138
    Im guessing jp want to stroke his to 1.8?
  139. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Newcastle/ Billingham Posts: 1873 02 Gold Cleaned OEM+ VTR
    #139
    gonna be another epic project craig. But if ur going to such weight saving lenghts as cutting wiring out the loom etc, surley you can get lighter wheels for weight saving & unsprung weight? s2 steelies sprayed black maybe even wheel trims, true sleeper!
  140. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #140
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackvtrt View Post
    gonna be another epic project craig. But if ur going to such weight saving lenghts as cutting wiring out the loom etc, surley you can get lighter wheels for weight saving & unsprung weight? s2 steelies sprayed black maybe even wheel trims, true sleeper!
    Still "weighing up" the wheel options tbh.

    I have a few sets of steelies which I could use, but still really fancy keeping it looking almost completely OE.

    Also toyed with OZ Ultras in 15s.

    hmmmm decisions
  141. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #141
    lol my loom is cut too fuck to save some weight, as well as a t45 spec steel cage (6kgs lighter than a normal steel cage of same design)

    but thats all way to fuck, as i have no job and cant afford carbon panels and plexi windows etc
  142. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #142
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    lol my loom is cut too fuck to save some weight, as well as a t45 spec steel cage (6kgs lighter than a normal steel cage of same design)

    but thats all way to fuck, as i have no job and cant afford carbon panels and plexi windows etc
    I'm hoping to have a custom loom with just the bits I need made up, but all in good time as I'll have to save up!!!
  143. Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Cowes, Isle of Wight Posts: 209 Gold Saxo
    #143
    looks good
  144. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #144
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J69 View Post
    looks good
    What you don't realise is I receive an email with each comment on this thread.

    I saw your original post, pre edit. Grow up.
  145. Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1267 03 EP3
    #145
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    What you don't realise is I receive an email with each comment on this thread.

    I saw your original post, pre edit. Grow up.
    lmao, what did he say?
  146. Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 144
    #146
    i have an crx del sol vti , b16a2 ,its a powerfull engine, better than TU5J4( i had one cammed) , i cant imagine a b16b...but if i were you , buy an b18a or b18b from a integra ls,only the engine block and put it the B18b head on it put also the pistons and the valvetrain ,some nice cams,arp head studs,arp rod bolts,all this with the ls cranckshaft,you will see some 200-210 bhp to the wheels , yes to the wheels,with the double of torque than b16b.
    very very nice proyect,i wish i were in your place hehehe.
  147. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #147
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by n123 View Post
    i have an crx del sol vti , b16a2 ,its a powerfull engine, better than TU5J4( i had one cammed) , i cant imagine a b16b...but if i were you , buy an b18a or b18b from a integra ls,only the engine block and put it the B18b head on it put also the pistons and the valvetrain ,some nice cams,arp head studs,arp rod bolts,all this with the ls cranckshaft,you will see some 200-210 bhp to the wheels , yes to the wheels,with the double of torque than b16b.
    very very nice proyect,i wish i were in your place hehehe.
    Some nice figures there but I need to keep it a 1.6 for now for drag racing groups
  148. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 3470 Golf mk2
    #148
    Should be shweeeeet, just don't turn it into a life long project. *cough* Andy_K *cough* iKiddd
  149. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 4004
    #149
    this looks awesome wish i had the money to go this far with a saxo one day hopefully good luck mate and good job so far.
  150. L-plater Joined: Jun 2009 perthshire Posts: 70 Posi blue VTR mk2 Silver Vtr mk2
    #150
    nice i like wht ur doing
  151. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Leeds Posts: 129 Saxo VTR
    #151
    same il be watchin this .. but i really wana no what he put 1st hand ^^ lol
  152. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Leeds Posts: 129 Saxo VTR
    #152
    oh and i loved the mk2 u did !!!
  153. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #153
    Oh hai?

  154. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)
    #154
    love the weive looks the bollox
  155. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR
    #155
    HOT! Moar pics needed craig my boy
  156. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 5250 Pink Jazz
    #156
    did you buy the carbon bootlid a while back?
  157. Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR
    #157
    Carbon = the sex
  158. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #158
    I have my own CF source

    probs cheaper too, still good stuff though
  159. Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS
    #159
    thats bloody gorgeous mate!
    nice weave.
  160. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini
    #160
    very nice, ill keep a close eye on this
  161. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...
    #161
    We need more pics Craig!!

    Looks pretty sweet so far though

    James
  162. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield
    #162
    Looks veryyyyyyy sexual Craig!

    I dont care what anyone says.....quality wise nobody even compares to Streamline carbon its awesome......i want some carbon.
  163. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #163
    Well my new toy eventually arrived today, and to say I'm impressed is a massive understatement.

    Not had any real time to play today so I packed her up in her nice warm pyjamas




    Sneaky peek of the wheel's she's pimpin' at the mo. Pug 106 GTi rimmage




    Inside pics (you can see the left hand drive wiper set up):







    And something I wasn't expecting:




    Number place recess in the rear bumper which means if I can get hold of a shiny carbon smoothed boot that will be staying, if not then I'll get rid and have the number plate mounted on a fibreglass tailgate


    Underneath:





    And the money shots :





    At the moment I have no complete pics of the car but rest assured, in time there will be plenty :
  164. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 south west Posts: 798 03 black vtr :) RB FF 182
    #164
    niceeeeeeee
  165. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #165
    Looks good so far mate. can't wait to see what other shiny toys you can fit to it.
  166. Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 chesterfield. tupton Posts: 1501 saxo vtr escort rs
    #166
    looks nice.
  167. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 leeds Posts: 2430 05' Clio 182
    #167
    very very nice 180 think i need to change my boxers now tho lol

    ps if you get rid of that bumper let me know
  168. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #168
    Should get some decent pics of the car today and have started a little shopping list and box of goodies
  169. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #169
    I just can't seem to get away from the black/orange combi!





    Speedline 205 GTi rims with Yokohama racing slicks
  170. Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP
    #170
    hmm interesting
  171. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #171
    NICE!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm getting more excited about this than you are i bet lol

    Glad your keeping the colour scheme, it looks the bollocks.
  172. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #172
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR View Post
    hmm interesting
    lolz

    they won't be stopping on. They are just on so I can get the raptors cleaned up and new tyres on

    They will, however be used on the dragstrip
  173. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield
    #173
    Must get my wheel arches looking like that.....once it returns that is lol.
  174. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #174
    Are you going to be taking this to santa pod? I'll deffo come down to watch/ have a go when it's built. Let me know if you plan on taking a triip down to a rwyb day, i'd love to try it!
  175. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #175
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alanapone View Post
    Are you going to be taking this to santa pod? I'll deffo come down to watch/ have a go when it's built. Let me know if you plan on taking a triip down to a rwyb day, i'd love to try it!
    Hopefully. I'd like to do the Pod as well as Melbourne again.

    I want me a 13 second gpA fwd car!
  176. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #176
    Have you seen the Mk1 polo running 1030BHP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    my mate showed me on you tube last night, simply amazing!
  177. Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Great Barr/Birmingham Posts: 1239 Meridian Red 306 Sedan slammed!
    #177
    wow. that looks a minter.

    rat out, new project in. dont take you long does it craig? haha
  178. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #178
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mattymcn View Post
    wow. that looks a minter.

    rat out, new project in. dont take you long does it craig? haha
    haha, well co-ordinated me thinks!

    tbf the driveway looks a bit bland now the rat's gone!
  179. Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Great Barr/Birmingham Posts: 1239 Meridian Red 306 Sedan slammed!
    #179
    haha rusty rat is now gone to a good home.

  180. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts
    #180
    Looks awesome Craig. Can't wait to see it starting to progress
  181. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #181
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
    Looks awesome Craig. Can't wait to see it starting to progress
    Race you to get finished?
  182. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts
    #182
    Your on!
    When are you aiming to get it done by?
  183. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #183
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
    Your on!
    When are you aiming to get it done by?
    Realistically trax 2011, although I may get her up and running with a mild vts lump just so I can take it for a drive soon!
  184. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2006 The Lang Toun Posts: 4133 Mk2 Clio V6 #007 of 354
    #184
    the temptation too much for you?
  185. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #185
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mtpagey View Post
    the temptation too much for you?
    Yeah I just wanna drive
  186. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Bournemouth Posts: 927 Saxo 16v Track Furio
    #186
    Going to be awsome when done!!!! Love the cheeky yoko slicks on the 205 gti alloys!
  187. Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Chislehurst Posts: 139 BLACK VTR
    #187
    looking quality mate! good stuff
  188. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Leeds Posts: 129 Saxo VTR
    #188
    lookin swell so far
  189. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2004 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 11649 FN2 Civic Type-R
    #189
    craig defo 1st dibs on that rear bumper as it fits perfect in to my plans (when i get a saxo)

    looks pretty good dude, im so jelouse
  190. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...
    #190
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    craig defo 1st dibs on that rear bumper as it fits perfect in to my plans (when i get a saxo)

    looks pretty good dude, im so jelouse
    Its already in the 'For Sale' section

    James
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  191. Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 South East - Bromley Posts: 1106 Starlet GT Turbo [jap import]
    #191
    orange wheels,
  192. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #192
    Won't be having coloured wheels on this one, as tempting as it is. We need a new dig for 2010/2011
  193. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield
    #193
    Black Car with Antharacite wheels????


    Pleaseeeeee that colour combo looks sexual
  194. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #194
    Craig have you seen that new CF? Im not sure when its available to buy, but its properties are much better from what Ive heard.

    Might even be mentioned already, I cant remember
  195. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #195
    apart from the pics u put up that was 10 pages of crap lol nah only joking, the shell looks perfect
  196. Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Torquay, Torbay, Devon Posts: 1206 Saxo VTR.... RS2000 167.4bhp
    #196
    good read man this will be mega when finished
  197. Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 stives Posts: 413 vtS and rs125
    #197
    looks good mate liked ur last saxo too
  198. L-plater Joined: Jul 2008 Spalding Posts: 38 Saxo 1.6 VTR
    #198
    quality motor mate
  199. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #199
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by J222JRA View Post
    Black Car with Antharacite wheels????
    Its the only way to roll..
  200. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #200
    Just sent a set of vtr rims off for refurb and powder coating. They might come back anthracite
  201. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2004 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 11649 FN2 Civic Type-R
    #201
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Just sent a set of vtr rims off for refurb and powder coating. They might come back anthracite
    lets hope so
  202. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)
    #202
    looks good bro be keeping an eye on this one
  203. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #203
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    lets hope so
    Maybe they're not
  204. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 3017 Honda DC5, Gruppe M and j's racing
    #204
    Was reading this when it first started. I have to apologise as I thought....maybe you were just dreaming. Evidently I was wrong. Will be really good to watch it take shape
  205. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #205
    There is far too much talking in this thread and seriously not enough pictures Craig!
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  206. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #206
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo_ron View Post
    Was reading this when it first started. I have to apologise as I thought....maybe you were just dreaming. Evidently I was wrong. Will be really good to watch it take shape
    It did start off as a "what if" kind of idea then just seemed to spiral out of control with the ideas tbh. Hoping it really starts to take shape soon, but as you know, with a wife and kids it's pretty hard to find time for tinkering!!!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    There is far too much talking in this thread and seriously not enough pictures Craig!
    I can get you lots of pictures if you want. Doesn't look too clever as it is though
  207. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #207




    Carbondage:







    Inside:



    Arches need a good scrub and clean up:




    Missing something, for now.....:



    Power is nothing without control. Michelin powered saxo:



    VTS badges soon to be gone and replaced by VTec ones of a similar design :

  208. Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2009 Somewhere in Bonnyland Posts: 10669 Super clean mk5 Golf Gti and 306 hdi
    #208
    Lovely
  209. Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Lancaster Posts: 1532 JP4 AX
    #209
    11 pages of whoring and a long way to go, good luck! Hope its finished for FCS

    Michelin ftw
    VTec ftl
  210. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #210
    so craig have you got an engine yet?
    what sort of timescale till the engine is in and running?
  211. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #211
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygti View Post
    so craig have you got an engine yet?
    what sort of timescale till the engine is in and running?
    Got a deposit on a low milage lump right now.

    I reckon it'll be 6-9 months before the engine is in. Not sure about when it'll be running as I'll have to save up for a custom loom which will probably take me into next year as that will be the last thing on my list
  212. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #212
    Looks a good base!
  213. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #213
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Got a deposit on a low milage lump right now.

    I reckon it'll be 6-9 months before the engine is in. Not sure about when it'll be running as I'll have to save up for a custom loom which will probably take me into next year as that will be the last thing on my list
    thats good, are you going to go to town on everything or keeping it simple? (i.e. susp, brakes, gearbox)
  214. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #214
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Looks a good base!
    Cheers man. Bodywork is dead straight at the mo but the paint needs some attention. I'm in 2 minds as to whether to have a full respray in flat black like I did my old one or whether to see how good I can make this paint look.

    You know me - it has to look good!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygti View Post
    thats good, are you going to go to town on everything or keeping it simple? (i.e. susp, brakes, gearbox)
    It will all be relatively simple tbh. No PAS or ABS.

    I liked the feel of my old Billie B8/GMC set up so I'll replicate that with this and polybush all the mounts

    Brakes will be Hi Spec midi'd or the Wilwood minilites so I can get them under 14 inch wheels.

    The gearbox I'll be using is the Civic supplied one. The B16b comes with a nigh on bulletproof box with LSD as standard. The only headache I'm expecting is when the invoice for the driveshafts come in!
  215. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #215
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Cheers man. Bodywork is dead straight at the mo but the paint needs some attention. I'm in 2 minds as to whether to have a full respray in flat black like I did my old one or whether to see how good I can make this paint look.

    You know me - it has to look good!



    It will all be relatively simple tbh. No PAS or ABS.

    I liked the feel of my old Billie B8/GMC set up so I'll replicate that with this and polybush all the mounts

    Brakes will be Hi Spec midi'd or the Wilwood minilites so I can get them under 14 inch wheels.

    The gearbox I'll be using is the Civic supplied one. The B16b comes with a nigh on bulletproof box with LSD as standard. The only headache I'm expecting is when the invoice for the driveshafts come in!
    cool, will be a very reliable well worked setup once finished then.
  216. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #216
    Id say try correcting the current paint to begin with. See how you get on with that first? Ahh I definatly know the score.

    I'd say check out the Bilstein Group N's over the B8's dude. B8's are good, but Ive read/heard get things on the Group N's also, and plus the fact your starting from scratch, it would only make sense.


    With regards to the box, are you not tempted to mate the later spec DC2 box to the B16 engine? This box comes with the 4.7X FD. I believe its a better box over the EK9 one.
    Cant remember if its a straight fit, I'd imagine so near enough.
  217. Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE
    #217
    I might be tempted to sell my Group N set up + 220lb faulkner springs for the right price
  218. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #218
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygti View Post
    cool, will be a very reliable well worked setup once finished then.
    I'm hoping so lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Id say try correcting the current paint to begin with. See how you get on with that first? Ahh I definatly know the score.

    I'd say check out the Bilstein Group N's over the B8's dude. B8's are good, but Ive read/heard get things on the Group N's also, and plus the fact your starting from scratch, it would only make sense.


    With regards to the box, are you not tempted to mate the later spec DC2 box to the B16 engine? This box comes with the 4.7X FD. I believe its a better box over the EK9 one.
    Cant remember if its a straight fit, I'd imagine so near enough.
    I thought my old system was the group n set up but was later corrected. Tbf that seemed hard enough for what I want. I'll mainly be using it on the drag strip so the rears will get replaced with solid rears for then

    as for the Box I'll look into that. Def sounds interesting as I'll be after accelleration from standstill
  219. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #219
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    I might be tempted to sell my Group N set up + 220lb faulkner springs for the right price
    200 and a pallet of skittles?
  220. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #220
    Ahh right. Thats fair enough dude.

    Theres loads of info on similar setups on EK9.org. Just cant remember the full details of the top of my head. Definatly something to look into.
    Most builds will however be B18C with the 4.7X FD. I will have a nose this week and see if I can fish any info out.
  221. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9363 Focus ST & 206 GTI180
    #221
    Looking good
  222. Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE
    #222
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    200 and a pallet of skittles?
    Lol
  223. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup
    #223
    As regards to the box a 96 spec (jdm dc2) box has a different/lower final drive to a 98 spec (jdm teg) box

    The box which belongs to the b16b is still a very good box, and all are like you said quite strong as long as they have been maintained properly and not treated poorly.

    Good work too dude!
  224. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2006 Royal Tunbridge Wells y0 Posts: 2602 Icelandic VTR
    #224
    This thing will be awesome when its done
  225. Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis
    #225
    Nice progress so far mate. Mk2 front end ftw
  226. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,
    #226
    Starting to come together nicely mate, can't wait to see your progress again

    Scott
  227. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #227
    FIRST REAL UPDATE: (!!!!!!!!!!)

    Ordered some carbon fibre for the car yesterday.....



    Carbon Fibre coil cover for the Honda lump
  228. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2004 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 11649 FN2 Civic Type-R
    #228
    have you got the honda lump yet?
  229. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #229
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    have you got the honda lump yet?
    Got a deposit on one. Don't really want to pick it up until it's ready to be sized up
  230. Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 leicester Posts: 27 posi blue mk1 vtr
    #230
    awesome thread mate will be following this thread through the progression good luck with it mate
  231. Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Dorset Posts: 305 Own a Show Saxo VTR "S14 VTR"
    #231
    amazing job m8! worked hard and payed off... i loving the orange n black it really goes well together!
    Col3y
  232. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Mansfield Posts: 6663 Astra Coupe Edition 100
    #232
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Col3y View Post
    amazing job m8! worked hard and payed off... i loving the orange n black it really goes well together!
    Col3y
    That said, i'd go for something different. 180 looked stunning, but i don't think it should be recreated if you get what i mean?

    Though aren't you going for more of a standard looking exterior? (apart from Carbon). Think i read that somewhere but may be wrong.
  233. Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis
    #233
    Hes not doing orange & black again, the car came with the orange sticker already on it!
  234. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #234
    Orange and black only looks good on one saxo IMO.

    This will be pretty oe to look at bar a few little tweaks to the bodywork.
  235. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Worthing Posts: 5660 Jap crap
    #235
    Please don't paint the carbon! Looks so nice and its a complete fail to paint it imo
  236. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Mansfield Posts: 6663 Astra Coupe Edition 100
    #236
    If you do paint the carbon you could maybe leave some exposed... Like a stripe all along one side of the top of the car. Or has that already been mentioned? Hope you know what i mean!
  237. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #237
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CHIP View Post
    If you do paint the carbon you could maybe leave some exposed... Like a stripe all along one side of the top of the car. Or has that already been mentioned? Hope you know what i mean!
    That has already been mentioned
  238. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Livingston Posts: 137 205 GTi was a Saxo VTR
    #238
    this is going to be something very special :L
    looks great bud (Y)
  239. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield
    #239
    Please dont paint the carbon....its the most sexual material on the planet!!!!!
  240. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Livingston Posts: 137 205 GTi was a Saxo VTR
    #240
    haha "sexual material" i'm agreeing with you mate. carbon is the dogs balls. can't wait to order some stuff from streamline.
  241. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Mansfield Posts: 6663 Astra Coupe Edition 100
    #241
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    That has already been mentioned
    Maybe that's where i got the idea then haha. Doooooooooooo it
  242. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire
    #242
    stunning car! where did u get those rear lights from? and has that been lowered if so how much by?
  243. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #243
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CHIP View Post
    Maybe that's where i got the idea then haha. Doooooooooooo it
    Lol noob!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by robbie-woods View Post
    stunning car! where did u get those rear lights from? and has that been lowered if so how much by?
    which car you talking about? The first one with orange wheels? If so the rears are smoked jewels and was about 40-50mm down.
  244. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire
    #244
    ok thanks i was on about both cars but interested on lowering mine atm so just wanted to see what other people have done
  245. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #245
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by robbie-woods View Post
    ok thanks i was on about both cars but interested on lowering mine atm so just wanted to see what other people have done
    No prob mate. This one will be lowered 40-50mm as well, but should site slightly lower on 14 inch wheels
  246. Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire
    #246
    ok mate im going to lower mine 50mm but going to have 15" wheels. u think that will be ok?
  247. Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 Horsham Posts: 1855 Leon Cupra 200 TDI
    #247
    Cooooorrrrrrr blimey! canny wait to see this finished. keep it up.
  248. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo
    #248
    Are those 205 gti alloys in the first pics? Also was it easy to get a mk1 spoiler on a mk2?
  249. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #249
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy View Post
    Is it easy to get a mk1 spoiler on a mk2?
    Yes. Look at my last car on the first post. And yes they are 205 rims painted black
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  250. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Nottingham Posts: 4882 Ford Transit
    #250
    Nice progress and a nice tastey project too
  251. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 livingston Posts: 4174 Honda CRX!
    #251
    engine still not in yet!!! jeezo...
  252. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 561
    #252
    Looks good mate
  253. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Bristol / Wakefield Posts: 2656 Ph2 172, MK1 VTR
    #253
    Craig first time back on here for ages, LOVE IT! Good man glad you've gone wild like I knew you would
  254. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #254
    SPANNER IN THE WORKS

    Bummer. Just got a text from the guy that was holding my engine for me and he has now sold it to someone else, although he has promised to fully refund my deposit.

    This leaves me with a dilemma:

    Do I look for another low milage B16b, so I can remain in gp A on the drag strip or;

    Do I look out for a slightly cheaper B18C from a DC2 and rebuild that with wilder cams and NOS and just blow out gp A altogether?
  255. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #255
    why not go a different route????

    VAG 1.8 20VT
  256. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...
    #256
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    why not go a different route????

    VAG 1.8 20VT
    Or a TSi engine, 170BHP from a 1.4 standard , i'm sure you could fettle that Craig

    James
  257. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #257
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    why not go a different route????

    VAG 1.8 20VT
    I crave Vtec

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jim-Bob View Post
    Or a TSi engine, 170BHP from a 1.4 standard , i'm sure you could fettle that Craig

    James
    As above, I want something that is bullet proof and screams like a bitch when I plant my right foot!
  258. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #258
    yeah but the vag is ready availiable! and cheap and internally rated for 350bhp

    so your saving on pistons and rods!

    and you wouldnt want anymore than 350bhp in a saxo lol

    look at this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ_o4_8XJZo

    one of them engines in a black renault 5 gt turbo
  259. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #259
    v-tec is for fannys who are scared to drive a turbo car....they get the same feeling...nothing and then power....only its more grunt than go!
  260. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #260
    That looks as though it cuold be a likely candidate if I don't stick to 1600!

    That was a rapid little bugger!

    How much bigger are they than a saxo engine (as I have no knowlege of VAG lumps!), and will it fit in the front without major changes to the chassis?
  261. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #261
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    why not go a different route????

    VAG 1.8 20VT

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    That looks as though it cuold be a likely candidate if I don't stick to 1600!

    That was a rapid little bugger!

    How much bigger are they than a saxo engine (as I have no knowlege of VAG lumps!), and will it fit in the front without major changes to the chassis?
    i would guess by my original post they are 1800cc or there bouts lmfao!!!

    fail craig
  262. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Haverfordwest West Wales Posts: 420 VW Golf 2.8 VR6
    #262
    just read the whole thread, judging what you made with your previous Saxo (which was mint) im sure this is going to be even better, nice work mate
  263. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #263
    I think he means physical weight and dimensions
    personally I think you should stick to the 1600cc engine for now. You have a plan of where you want to use it.
    I'm only fitting a 1.8 to my racecar to meet race regs but it will still be fast and fun
    Kev
  264. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #264
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    i would guess by my original post they are 1800cc or there bouts lmfao!!!

    fail craig
    Lol physical size you noob!

    FaiL
  265. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield
    #265
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    I think he means physical weight and dimensions
    personally I think you should stick to the 1600cc engine for now. You have a plan of where you want to use it.
    I'm only fitting a 1.8 to my racecar to meet race regs but it will still be fast and fun
    Kev
    Agreed.......Maxwell Fail????? lol
  266. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Mold Posts: 2936 EP3 Civic Type R
    #266
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    I think he means physical weight and dimensions
    personally I think you should stick to the 1600cc engine for now. You have a plan of where you want to use it.
    I'm only fitting a 1.8 to my racecar to meet race regs but it will still be fast and fun
    Kev
    Yes but what would be the point in sticking to a 1600 when you can just go all out and do an 1800+ conversion. Do it once and do it right I say! As say Craig opted for the Vtec lumps and at a later date he wanted to go VAG, you may as well just rip everything out and start again - and the point in that is?

    I'd go what Maxwell has said, and I said that from the start. Go for a 1.8, preferably a VAG engine, tuning potenital is much higher for a start and will be less expensive in the long run. Plus these engines are pretty bullet proof and right up there with the Japs .
  267. Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Bognor Regis, WEST SUSSEX Posts: 641 Mauritius Blue VTR (Track)
    #267
    soo nice!! i know the plate from somewhere!! what other cars you had? lol
  268. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #268
    yeh yeh lol bet you meant capacity you ball lickers

    my mate has a 1.8t golf gti mk4 and we are mounting an FMIC tonight, so i will bring out the measuring tape and measure height - from sump to cam cover and width - timing cover to clutch and then breadth - inlet to exhaust! and then will get back to you



    y0
  269. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #269
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Harv View Post
    I'd go what Maxwell has said, and I said that from the start. Go for a 1.8, preferably a VAG engine, tuning potenital is much higher for a start and will be less expensive in the long run. Plus these engines are pretty bullet proof and right up there with the Japs .
    this man has sense

    also with the way toyota are at the min, would you trust ANYTHING japanese!!!!!!!!!! lol
  270. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4928 Clio 197 Cup
    #270
    Stick to Vtec.
    Sack of this VAG lump idea.

    Need to keep it fairly light and revvy.

    It's like putting an uber heavy GTi-6 or equivalent block in a light/trackspec 205.
    Destroys the handling and what they car is really about.
    (Obviously IMO)

    Unless you want a Saxo that can only go in a straight line.
    Which in turn defeats the entire point of a Saxo.

    In a nutshell - Keep it around 1600 and Vtec.
    I demand you!
  271. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #271
    V8

    lots of buggering about but could be done surely?
  272. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Rugby Posts: 911 NaNa Gti
    #272
    very nice
  273. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #273
    Just measured my mates car:

    width - 36" (alternator pulley to gearbox mount)
    breadth - 28" (inlet manifold to exhaust heat sheild)
    height - 30" (sump to engine cover)

    so get measuring ya cunt
  274. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719
    #274
    There is a 1.8T'd Clio Ph2, They have tiny engine bays so space shouldn't be a problem in a Saxo.
  275. Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor
    #275
    Pain in the arse about the guy selling your engine. Thought the whole idea of a deposit was to actually hold it for you?! lol
    Loving the CF mate
  276. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #276
    K20 on iTB's

    I still feel the B18C is worth it for all the time/£££. You will soon get bored of the drag racing and want to stick it on track. Thats when you will question why you ever went B16..

    VAG engine would be nice as it would allow huge power. But huge power isnt the be all and end all!
  277. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #277
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Stick to Vtec.
    Sack of this VAG lump idea.

    Need to keep it fairly light and revvy.

    It's like putting an uber heavy GTi-6 or equivalent block in a light/trackspec 205.
    Destroys the handling and what they car is really about.
    (Obviously IMO)

    Unless you want a Saxo that can only go in a straight line.
    Which in turn defeats the entire point of a Saxo.

    In a nutshell - Keep it around 1600 and Vtec.
    I demand you!
    ferg
    you do know hes planning to use it for drag racing mostly
    hence the class (group a) and stuff getting mentioned

    id still go vtec craig
    get an imported motor and box with lsd and have fun lol
  278. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 leeds Posts: 2430 05' Clio 182
    #278
    tbh which ever you go for its going to scream when you plant your foot but i dont know i think i would be tempted for the 1.8t because of the fact it could go to a crazy bhp easy ish but then if you want a drag car and you want a group a one then the same engine its got to be but how long will it keep you entertained going along one strip?
  279. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4928 Clio 197 Cup
    #279
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    ferg
    you do know hes planning to use it for drag racing mostly
    hence the class (group a) and stuff getting mentioned

    id still go vtec craig
    get an imported motor and box with lsd and have fun lol
    Build a car to this spec and only use it on a drag strip.
    What a shame that would be, Craig's got more sense than that.
  280. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #280
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    Build a car to this spec and only use it on a drag strip.
    What a shame that would be, Craig's got more sense than that.
    i agree ferg..

    if you want to drag race buy a dodge charger or something american and v8..


    if you build this car it should (imo) be more track bias'd with gheylining in mind not other way round.
  281. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719
    #281
    Be a man a drop a C20XE in there

    They are 190kg though (inc. F20 gearbox)
  282. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Mold Posts: 2936 EP3 Civic Type R
    #282
    VAG eninge all the way. Sack VTEC off its shit and doesn't work properly .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6DG-LLRcEc

    Thats around 280bhp I think, can get them a lot quicker than that too!
  283. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Mold Posts: 2936 EP3 Civic Type R
    #283
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss8Mupq5vbc

    Its the way to go mate! I think I got it wrong, it might be 400bhp after looking at this video .
  284. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 756
    #284
    stick with vtec i love mine

    considered ep3 engine in the saxo? thatd be a awesome vtec saxo
  285. Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti
    #285
    Alot of pages for a Saxo shell no?

    Come on Craigy pull your finger out
  286. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #286
    Need monies for real updates
  287. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #287
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Harv View Post
    Yes but what would be the point in sticking to a 1600 when you can just go all out and do an 1800+ conversion. Do it once and do it right I say! As say Craig opted for the Vtec lumps and at a later date he wanted to go VAG, you may as well just rip everything out and start again - and the point in that is?

    I'd go what Maxwell has said, and I said that from the start. Go for a 1.8, preferably a VAG engine, tuning potenital is much higher for a start and will be less expensive in the long run. Plus these engines are pretty bullet proof and right up there with the Japs .
    Like I said. If you have an intended use then build the car for it and maximise its potential for its intended purpose. I would bet its easy to swap a B16 to a B18 if he required at a later date. He doesnt want the fastest car on the planet. You dont pick a 1.6 for that but he does want the fastest 1.6.
    It does not always cost a lot to fit a different engine. My racecar has two top mounts so I can either fit the 1.9 Mi16 or the 1.8 XU7JP engine. Probably cost me less than £100 more.
  288. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #288
    Exactky kam.

    I'm sort of deviating from my original plan, which is unlike me, so back to square one. B16b hunt continues.....
  289. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #289
    The trick is to choose an engine to be competitive. I could try to enter my car in class A. I could build a 300+bhp 2.4 engine but I would have to race against super touring cars and other supercars like the noble. The people in the top classes are more likely to have lots of experience, and more likely to have a bigger budget than me.
    By making mine under 1750cc I can race against production spec M3's and vectra challenge cars. A far easier class to get some trophies in.
    If all you want to do is go fast - fit a bigger engine. If you want to win then give yourself the best opportunity to do so. Its not just about you when racing.
    Kev
  290. Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Yateley Posts: 464 1.1 saxo
    #290
    ouch man your other saxo was a beast and this one . . .well cant call it a beast more of a track day slut when she is up and running
  291. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #291
    Bought a 1.8 20v Turbo.......
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  292. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts
    #292
    Good stuff!!!
    Same class as Mine would be in then iirc
  293. Newbie Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1
    #293
    Was interested in this thread and subscribed to it as was planning on doing the vtec conversion myself.

    Am now really, really interested in this thread!!!!!

    Will be very interested to know the weights of these engines and boxes if you get the chance, inpartcular the total weight of the old saxo 16v lump with gearbox inlet and exhaust etc, and then the same for the 1.8T as I will be using mine on track days not just in a straight line.
  294. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #294
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Bought a 1.8 20v Turbo.......
    hahaha see my opinions do count

    get cracking mate! 300bhp+ ftw!!!

    i would say using polo gti shafts etc, you could get the tracking spot on and then do a lot of relocation - power steering pump and battery etc

    will be the most epic car on here!

    if i had of still been working in france, my blue vts was to get the same treatment, as the front chassis legs where not up to much and also seeing the space framed saxo on ssc, i had an idea of vag 1.8 20vt - was getting engine, box and loom for £650
  295. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #295
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    Bought a 1.8 20v Turbo.......


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
    Good stuff!!!
    Same class as Mine would be in then iirc
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by whitevancam View Post
    Was interested in this thread and subscribed to it as was planning on doing the vtec conversion myself.

    Am now really, really interested in this thread!!!!!

    Will be very interested to know the weights of these engines and boxes if you get the chance, inpartcular the total weight of the old saxo 16v lump with gearbox inlet and exhaust etc, and then the same for the 1.8T as I will be using mine on track days not just in a straight line.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    hahaha see my opinions do count

    get cracking mate! 300bhp+ ftw!!!

    i would say using polo gti shafts etc, you could get the tracking spot on and then do a lot of relocation - power steering pump and battery etc

    will be the most epic car on here!

    if i had of still been working in france, my blue vts was to get the same treatment, as the front chassis legs where not up to much and also seeing the space framed saxo on ssc, i had an idea of vag 1.8 20vt - was getting engine, box and loom for £650
    Sorry guys, the 20vT is stopping in the new car and I'm sticking with my original plan of fitting a B16b into the saxo so I can run in Gp A for a while.

    I reckon 200bhp will be more than enough for my sedate driving style and it means it should handle a damn sight better than with a big heavy lump up front.

    Think I've sourced a new engine so I should have a proper update pretty soon!
  296. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #296
    auck your fucking uber ghey!
  297. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #297
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    auck your fucking uber ghey!
    hahaha

    On a positive note, however there are no plans to keep the Octavia standard so any tips you can fire my way would be massively appreciated!
  298. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Newcastle, Ashington Posts: 5086 Cammed and VTR'd Furio. Corsa c - Slammed & Euro
    #298
    Carbon roof looks great, lookin good so far mate
  299. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #299
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    hahaha

    On a positive note, however there are no plans to keep the Octavia standard so any tips you can fire my way would be massively appreciated!
    get the engine and box out of it and stick it into your saxo

    and then buy a 2.2 20vt aby 5 cylinder audi s2 engine and get it into the skoda, then twin turbo it and it should see 800bhp +
  300. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...
    #300
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    hahaha

    On a positive note, however there are no plans to keep the Octavia standard so any tips you can fire my way would be massively appreciated!
    Strip it, then fit a bright orange cage and wheels...seen it done somewhere before, looked awesome

    James
  301. Newbie Joined: Mar 2010 Blackburn Posts: 29 ford fiesta zetec ford escort van toyota starlet
    #301
    All sounds good. like to see it all coming together.
  302. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #302
    This thread is a huge waste of internetz..

    Has to be said Craigy baby. Sold the shell yet?
  303. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #303
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    This thread is a huge waste of internetz..

    Has to be said Craigy baby. Sold the shell yet?
    I'm not the one posting in here every other page

    not sold the shell but may have to keep it after Simo put a horrible idea in my head today. Damn you boss!
  304. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #304
    You know the storms that follow you!

    Hmm, interesting. I think it would be a shame to sell it, your obviously tempted to use it.
  305. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS
    #305
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    I'm not the one posting in here every other page

    not sold the shell but may have to keep it after Simo put a horrible idea in my head today. Damn you boss!
    boost?
  306. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #306
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    You know the storms that follow you!

    Hmm, interesting. I think it would be a shame to sell it, your obviously tempted to use it.
    EYes I am but I now have a much better base car to modify at a fraction of the cost of this project

    If/when this car has any progress I'll delete this and just use my blog
  307. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #307
    Is that the Octavia your refering to?
  308. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #308
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Is that the Octavia your refering to?
    Yes mate
  309. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #309
    Ooo. Respectable daily drivers are a wonderful thing.
  310. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Leeds Posts: 129 Saxo VTR
    #310
    noo skoda fabia VRS all thee wayy lol .. maybe out of the box for a lil diesel tuning ??
  311. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26
    #311
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    EYes I am but I now have a much better base car to modify at a fraction of the cost of this project

    If/when this car has any progress I'll delete this and just use my blog
    If you don't sort the Saxo project out, I'll be forced to tell every one that you're straight

    You know it makes sense Craigy...
  312. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2006 Tyldesley, Manchester Posts: 5276 1.Saxo VTR 2.Saxo180
    #312
    Simo you should sack Craig for building up our hopes then destroying them.
  313. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #313
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    If you don't sort the Saxo project out, I'll be forced to tell every one that you're straight

    You know it makes sense Craigy...
    Lol abuse from the boss! Is that classed s sexual harassment?
  314. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #314
    right wtf is going on here?you finishing this or what?? you havent updated your blog or this!
  315. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 leeds Posts: 2430 05' Clio 182
    #315
    think he sold the shell! and got rid of all hopes and dreams for his skoda
  316. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #316
    The shell is now in the capable hands of Sunderz and I will be showcasing the Citroen saxOctavia at FCS.

    Peace out
  317. Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Turin, Italy Posts: 2238 Fiesta ST-2, Saxo VTS ph2
    #317
    Your fucking wick!!! Lol

    i was looking forward to this you dashed my dreams ya cunt! Xx
  318. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #318
    gash
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  319. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Leeds Posts: 129 Saxo VTR
    #319
    boo
  320. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #320
    Bump
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  321. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor
    #321
    phucking ASW
  322. North West Joined: Apr 2009 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 5733 PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
    #322
    Hahahaha, Almost 10 year bump FTW!
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