266 brakes

  1. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #1
    ok can;t really find what i need. so........... sorry if its been asked a million times

    are they straight swap for standard vtr ones or is there a lot of work involved?
    simple direct answers please cos i don;t have alot of knowlogde on subject
  2. Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR
    #2
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=266335

    LOADS of info in there mate
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #3
    ok from what i can agther from above thread. 266 are more o r less a stright swap no real need to up grade lines or master cylinder.
    can i get this confirmed
  4. Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marcusd View Post
    ok from what i can agther from above thread. 266 are more o r less a stright swap no real need to up grade lines or master cylinder.
    can i get this confirmed
    Yes that's right

    Get the master cylinder aswell though just for good measure
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  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #5
    but i can get this and fit this later, but can still run 266 brakes without for a bit.

    so next question will be what master cylinder think i read 23mm anyone link me to one so i know what i;m looking for
  6. Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328
    #6
    Its your call with the lines
    i always suggest/fit longer stainless braided lines, other suppliers say it isnt neccesary
    but the standerd lines are designed to be used with 247mm max disks, so fit bigger ones and on full steering lock or suspension travel the hose pulls tight.
    This could lead to a failure of the line and an mot failure if it gets pickd up there.

    The mc is down to how you want the pedal to feel, with out a bigger one the pedal will have more travel before working, some can be adjusted out but its down to you
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
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    The mc is down to how you want the pedal to feel, with out a bigger one the pedal will have more travel before working, some can be adjusted out but its down to you[/QUOTE]

    that last bit i don;t understand. u need to say it like u were telling a 5 year old mate.
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marcusd View Post
    The mc is down to how you want the pedal to feel, with out a bigger one the pedal will have more travel before working, some can be adjusted out but its down to you
    that last bit i don;t understand. u need to say it like u were telling a 5 year old mate.[/QUOTE]

    pretty simple

    small MC - more pedal travel
    big MC - less pedal travel

    (all before the brakes bite hard)

    out of intrest, how big is a VTS MC?
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #9
    so pedel travel as in pushing it down?

    big mc= only having to tap the pedal to a stop yea?

    dam i;m learning so much off this site
  10. Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328
    #10
    Basicaly with the mc you have on now but the 266s the pedal will go down further than before prior to it actualy doing any brakeing.
    The larger mc will make things happen sooner
  11. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marcusd View Post
    so pedel travel as in pushing it down?

    big mc= only having to tap the pedal to a stop yea?

    dam i;m learning so much off this site
    correcto. out of intrest, why the need for a 266mm set up?
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #12
    mainly cos the few peoples i spoke to about the shit standard brakes heard these were a bit better. and the people who i know who have fitted them said was the best thing they done to car.
    i drove my rents car and only had to tap the brake pedal to be thrown against window compared to saox braking where i got foot to floor and slowly stops. basically to have some stopping power really if me old dear does ever borrow car

    added note can someone link me to the master cylinder i'll need so i can keep my eye out for one please
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marcusd View Post
    mainly cos the few peoples i spoke to about the shit standard brakes heard these were a bit better. and the people who i know who have fitted them said was the best thing they done to car.
    i drove my rents car and only had to tap the brake pedal to be thrown against window compared to saox braking where i got foot to floor and slowly stops. basically to have some stopping power really if me old dear does ever borrow car
    good pad's and discs on a well set up standard system would be fine for road use. and cost less too

    standard vts brakes weigh loads, so a 266 / 283mm set up must be a lot more heavy lol
  14. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts
    #14
    21 or 22mm i think

    Its well worth the up grade IMO

    The 266 dont feel any heavier tbh
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #15
    that was other option upgrading pads and discs but again theres not solid answer for it either way. where as i got the answer of the 266 setup being good and worth it.
  16. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marcusd View Post
    that was other option upgrading pads and discs but again theres not solid answer for it either way. where as i got the answer of the 266 setup being good and worth it.
    247mm set up with a good set of pad's and discs will always be better / cheaper than a 266mm set up with average pad's and discs.

    KAM says you can feel the difference in weight too.

    im not arguing for or against the set ups, just giving you some options to think about.
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #17
    oh no love the info. but when i was looking into it there was so many different option and opinions floating about that i couldn;t make my mind up, as most people say mintex pads, where as other say they are too harsh. so it was a case of go for what i know and what poeple i know have gone with to feel the benifits hopefully. and if not back to standards and try something else
  18. Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Kingston Upon Hull area Posts: 1642 MG ZT CDTi Citroen C4 Picasso VTR+
    #18
    Have to reccommend the bigger 266mm setup - have alot more confidence in the stopping ability of the car now.
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marcusd View Post
    oh no love the info. but when i was looking into it there was so many different option and opinions floating about that i couldn;t make my mind up, as most people say mintex pads, where as other say they are too harsh. so it was a case of go for what i know and what poeple i know have gone with to feel the benifits hopefully. and if not back to standards and try something else
    mintex wouldnt be too hard atall. ebc yellow stuff / mintex 1144's are said to be some of the best for road use, and theyre pretty well priced

    get some decent discs too and youll be fine on standard calipers

    it's only when you start pushing hard, on track for example when bigger brakes have an effect... i have 4pots on, and dont really notice a difference over standard vts brakes at normal road speeds
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  20. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #20
    oh yea i think 266 will be fine and hope to notice a bit of a diferance. and if not i'll try the uprated discs n pads for standards. then i';ll be back on here to annoy the arse off people like yourself with questions on discs n pads
  21. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marcusd View Post
    oh yea i think 266 will be fine and hope to notice a bit of a diferance. and if not i'll try the uprated discs n pads for standards. then i';ll be back on here to annoy the arse off people like yourself with questions on discs n pads
    would it not be better to save your money and get better pad's and discs for the current set up. then worry about a bigger set up if needed

    it's pretty logical
  22. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #22
    but i already got the 266's with disc and pad cheap as chips far cheaper than uprated disc n pads from what i seen. thats why i went for that first.
  23. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marcusd View Post
    but i already got the 266's with disc and pad cheap as chips far cheaper than uprated disc n pads from what i seen. thats why i went for that first.
    i see, are the 266's on your car?

    if not, id still get better pad's and discs for standards. then see if you need a bigger set up

    it's the logical thing to do imo

    without trying to sound too bias lol. just trying to give you ideas in a logical way.
  24. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #24
    i don;t do logical. i get idea in my head rush into it do it change it whatever then decide if its right.
    not on car yet as original idea of this thread was to find out if there was anything else i needed to fit these so i could order in before getting fitted.
    but its all good knowing the options and who to ask and such
  25. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marcusd View Post
    i don;t do logical. i get idea in my head rush into it do it change it whatever then decide if its right.
    not on car yet as original idea of this thread was to find out if there was anything else i needed to fit these so i could order in before getting fitted.
    but its all good knowing the options and who to ask and such
    well you should really do things logically lol

    by having a good 247mm set up. you'd then be able to decide if you'd need a bigger set up or not, this would be best to give you a true comparison between the two.

    im not slating a 266mm set up. im just suggesting it'd be better to try the best possible set up for the current set up before spending more on a 266mm set up which you may find to be un-needed.

    edit: lol at the ammount of times i said "set up"
  26. Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 brighton Posts: 1489 big pimpin merc
    #26
    I loved my 266mm setup on my gti and i will have another set when i get another S. dunno about yours but my calipers needed a bit grinding before they would fit.
  27. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr
    #27
    these been done hopefully ''touches wood'' ''crosses fingers too''