alloy crank pully

5th February 2010, 15:08

As above anyone got one or know what ther like any good?

5th February 2010, 15:14

Most people get them to compliment a lightend flywheel iirc

Only ever seen them for the VTS though.

5th February 2010, 15:18

they do them for vtr's

hose reduce the weight to be turnt over on start up and the alternator ones, take less power from the engine.

something along those lines.

5th February 2010, 15:18

check out this thread:
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=204006

5th February 2010, 15:19

8v's
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/106-GTI-SAXO-A...item19b946570f

5th February 2010, 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankie

8v's
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/106-GTI-SAXO-A...item19b946570f

Nice find

Only seen GMC sell them before now

5th February 2010, 15:26

i think the link i posted is sandy.

think for a vts there a good upgrade as the OE one wear down and break, vtr's dont and are expensive for sweet bugger all...

but mite get the alternator one though, as it about £30-40 quid

5th February 2010, 15:27

Its a good modification really. You should notice a little increase in the cars eagerness to rev as you accelerate. It reduces some of the parasitic loss from the mass of the pulleys and the effort needed to power the alternator. My racecar will be using some as it all helps! We have these in stock at all times.
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...t-pulleys.html

Kev

5th February 2010, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing

Its a good modification really. You should notice a little increase in the cars eagerness to rev as you accelerate. It reduces some of the parasitic loss from the mass of the pulleys and the effort needed to power the alternator. My racecar will be using some as it all helps! We have these in stock at all times.
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...t-pulleys.html

Kev

Didn't notice that you had them, really like the sound of them though

5th February 2010, 15:34

think i may purchase them when i have some monies.

5th February 2010, 15:39

You also can buy original spare part number is 0515.L2 its a pulley without dampfing gum diameter is 128mm 5 groove and weights 467gramms, cost about 25-35 pounds.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GENUINE-PEUGEO...item2c524266e0

I have this installed to my sax, also other alternator from a smaller TU without all that tensioner bullshit

Robert

5th February 2010, 15:42

Improving the efficiency is a very good way of getting extra power really. Theres loads of bhp sapping parts on your standard engine that can help throttle response if replaced with lightweight components.

Kev

5th February 2010, 15:47

Our crank pulley is 230grams. The whole kit including the belt is about 350grams so quite a difference.

5th February 2010, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing

Our crank pulley is 230grams. The whole kit including the belt is about 350grams so quite a difference.

does it keep the oem diameter crank pulley, and just uses a smaller pulley on the alternator? OR are both a bit smaller diameter?

5th February 2010, 15:59

If these are the colin satchell ones, the alt pulley is slightly smaller... i'm assuming the crank pulley is the same diameter as the standard item. Quality looks excellent - fitting some to mine tomorrow.

5th February 2010, 15:59

Kev group buy

5th February 2010, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing

Our crank pulley is 230grams. The whole kit including the belt is about 350grams so quite a difference.

Wow 230 grams is much lighter. I am even thinking about that I am feeling something more acceleration power with the 467 gr. pulley, the o/e on the 16v is about 1042 gr. for the little 128mm pulley with airconditon.

The ones without aircondition got the 138mm pulley which should be much heavier than the 128mm pulley.

Robert

5th February 2010, 18:32

Dang it! Wish the'd been around when my pulley went fubar

5th February 2010, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

Nice find

Only seen GMC sell them before now

for a road car do really want your alternator to run slower --especially with electric power steering + ICE system ,and there is a reason std one is 5 rib belt --the load the alternator gets when you turn sterring when stationary needs 5 ribs to stop belt slipping.
yes ours don,t look as "blingy " ,but thats cos they are hard anodised --machined alloy looks good --till the road salt gets at it .Its a diect replacment for std one ,,and yes it could be lighter but at 306 gms its still 1/3 weight of std unit

5th February 2010, 21:31

So do they do a lot or are they just a bling thin

5th February 2010, 22:40

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=287911

6th February 2010, 11:35

Ill take it as a no for a group buy then lol

6th February 2010, 12:14

maybe. Would have to crunch some numbers

6th February 2010, 12:47

Iam up for a group buy

take it the 8v fits on the furio aswell??

6th February 2010, 18:09

how many peeps would we need? i think theres abit of interest in these

6th February 2010, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by axsaxoman

for a road car do really want your alternator to run slower --especially with electric power steering + ICE system ,and there is a reason std one is 5 rib belt --the load the alternator gets when you turn sterring when stationary needs 5 ribs to stop belt slipping.
yes ours don,t look as "blingy " ,but thats cos they are hard anodised --machined alloy looks good --till the road salt gets at it .Its a diect replacment for std one ,,and yes it could be lighter but at 306 gms its still 1/3 weight of std unit

Would prefare yours anyway, not a fan of bling myself lol

6th February 2010, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by axsaxoman

for a road car do really want your alternator to run slower --especially with electric power steering + ICE system ,and there is a reason std one is 5 rib belt --the load the alternator gets when you turn sterring when stationary needs 5 ribs to stop belt slipping.
yes ours don,t look as "blingy " ,but thats cos they are hard anodised --machined alloy looks good --till the road salt gets at it .Its a diect replacment for std one ,,and yes it could be lighter but at 306 gms its still 1/3 weight of std unit

Exactly.

6th February 2010, 20:56

Ironic really, the pulley kits being discussed (Ebay and KAM) were originally developed by myself and Colin Satchell for our race cars, for functional reasons of preserving the alternator reliability at high rpm and reducing parasitic losses, not for bling! The basic pulley design and material used have a decade of production by Colin for other applications. They have of course, proved to be completely reliable and effective on road cars too, no corrosion problems evident and perfectly adequate charging even on cars using very small batteries. I can't comment about ICE installs, that's not really our field.

6th February 2010, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy309

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I had some Colin Satchell pulleys fitted today - the quality of the items was excellent and the car seems to rev up a fair bit quicker now. One happy customer here.

6th February 2010, 21:24

Glad to hear it, thanks

7th February 2010, 18:06

so would anyone be interested in a group buy in these?

7th February 2010, 18:15

i wouldnt bother unless adding a lightened flywheel as well, seein as thats where most of the weight is

7th February 2010, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ric_b3

so would anyone be interested in a group buy in these?

If you speak to Sandy/ Colin Satchell direct, they should be able to do you a set at a good price - i.e the forum group buy price. I have Colin's e-mail address if you need it.