Prices for rebuilding a gearbox, what have you paid?

1. gavin_t Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Southend, essex Posts: 2079 1999 mk2 VTS EP3 2004 civic type r

   #1 10th February 2010, 19:24

   Just phoned a few places today to get prices for rebuilding my box. I know it will vary due to what needs replacing but just want to see if my quotes are in the right ball park.
   
   If you could post what you had done and what it cost that would be great. Also if that included getting it fitted and removed from the car?
   
   
   Thanks Gavin
2. user_39613 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Essex Posts: 1006

   #2 10th February 2010, 19:45

   I'd think about buying a rallye box if i was in your position, seen them on here for £160 ish i think.
3. adam19 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Harlow, essex Posts: 2731 Clio 182

   #3 10th February 2010, 19:56

   i know a guy who refurbs your gearbox you wont me to pm you it ? hopefully he`s still got the same number, and hes from chelmsford not far from you either
4. gavin_t Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Southend, essex Posts: 2079 1999 mk2 VTS EP3 2004 civic type r

   #4 10th February 2010, 20:59

   looking for someone who can have the car as a whole and do it. As I dont have the time to take a box out and send it to them.
   
   
   Dont want another box as mines got a quaife etc in
5. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #5 10th February 2010, 22:22

   For a start what's wrong with the gearbox?
   
   1st/2nd syncro is a good £140 with 3rd/4th knocking on the door of £170.
   
   So it could be anything from £150-£500+ really. If you explain why you want it rebuilt we can give you a better clue.
6. adam19 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Harlow, essex Posts: 2731 Clio 182

   #6 11th February 2010, 17:35

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by gavin_t looking for someone who can have the car as a whole and do it. As I dont have the time to take a box out and send it to them. Dont want another box as mines got a quaife etc in

   ok fair enough pal
7. gavin_t Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Southend, essex Posts: 2079 1999 mk2 VTS EP3 2004 civic type r

   #7 11th February 2010, 19:06

   Whines in all gears badly and crunches 3rd once its warmed up on track days etc
8. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #8 11th February 2010, 19:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by gavin_t Whines in all gears badly and crunches 3rd once its warmed up on track days etc

   Well whining could be clutch release bearing? OR could simply be the quaife diff, maybe just the way it is?
   
   IF not then this is what I'd expect cost wise:
   
   Maybe new 3rd/4th syncro (£170) or syncro rebuilt with new 3rd ring (maybe anything upto £50)
   
   Whilst its apart I'd put an uprated input shaft bearing in, so £15.
   
   Then around £40 in disposable parts you'd replace when you've disturbed them pulling the box apart.
   
   So maybe budget between £100-£200 in parts, then just labour ontop ?
9. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

   #9 11th February 2010, 21:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by raunchz For a start what's wrong with the gearbox? 1st/2nd syncro is a good £140 with 3rd/4th knocking on the door of £170. So it could be anything from £150-£500+ really. If you explain why you want it rebuilt we can give you a better clue.

   
   
   thats if you buy a complete synco, most of the time its just the syncro rings are there under £80 for a full set.
   
   i charge 3 hours to strip and rebuild the box plus parts (labour is £35 but discounted to £30 for SAX-P members)
   
   its normally £150 to remove and refit the box but this drops to £100 if i rebuild the box
10. gavin_t Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Southend, essex Posts: 2079 1999 mk2 VTS EP3 2004 civic type r

    #10 11th February 2010, 21:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tweeqd thats if you buy a complete synco, most of the time its just the syncro rings are there under £80 for a full set. i charge 3 hours to strip and rebuild the box plus parts (labour is £35 but discounted to £30 for SAX-P members) its normally £150 to remove and refit the box but this drops to £100 if i rebuild the box

    
    
    Hmm doesnt seem too bad, ive budgeted more just incase there is more that needs doing whilst its out.
    
    Just a shame your quite far from me, I think you built this box the first time round for the old owner anyway haha
11. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

    #11 11th February 2010, 21:56

    I had bearings, seals and syncros plus an internal swap for £180.
12. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #12 11th February 2010, 22:05

    I bought a fully refurbished box, new bearings and seals, new synchros etc etc came with a 30000 mile warranty and the casing was powder coated so looks really tidy. Cost £280.
13. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #13 12th February 2010, 19:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gavin_t Hmm doesnt seem too bad, ive budgeted more just incase there is more that needs doing whilst its out. Just a shame your quite far from me, I think you built this box the first time round for the old owner anyway haha

    who did you buy the box from ??? is it painted
    
    its always best to budget for a clutch at the same time as having the box out
14. gavin_t Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Southend, essex Posts: 2079 1999 mk2 VTS EP3 2004 civic type r

    #14 13th February 2010, 19:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tweeqd who did you buy the box from ??? is it painted its always best to budget for a clutch at the same time as having the box out

    
    
    Think his forum name was rallye rich
    
    
    has a blue s2 rallye
    
    
    Got a brand new valeo clutch kit fitted the other month when I put the box in so clutch is 100% fine. Just a shame I fitted the box before I found out it was dud
15. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #15 13th February 2010, 21:38

    what makes you say the box is dud
    richs box had both complete syncro units, all new bearings and an xsi FD fitted with the ATB
    
    it was done a few years ago but i know it hasnt done that many miles
16. pug_rallye Newbie Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 13

    #16 14th February 2010, 00:24

    Are you running the correct oil?
17. gavin_t Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Southend, essex Posts: 2079 1999 mk2 VTS EP3 2004 civic type r

    #17 14th February 2010, 10:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tweeqd what makes you say the box is dud richs box had both complete syncro units, all new bearings and an xsi FD fitted with the ATB it was done a few years ago but i know it hasnt done that many miles

    
    
    Its just not as smooth as my old box and doesnt like 3rd gear. Ie quick changes on track and if you downshift to 3rd at 50/60ish is crunches. Plus its really whiney in all gears, can here it coming a mile away lol
    Plan to get the FD swapped over too as I find it a bit short for me.
18. gavin_t Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Southend, essex Posts: 2079 1999 mk2 VTS EP3 2004 civic type r

    #18 14th February 2010, 10:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pug_rallye Are you running the correct oil?

    
    
    Yer running good quality 75-80 oil and have check the level loads of times to make sure its ok.
19. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #19 14th February 2010, 11:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA I bought a fully refurbished box, new bearings and seals, new synchros etc etc came with a 30000 mile warranty and the casing was powder coated so looks really tidy. Cost £280.

    thats a really reasonable deal to be honest mate,
    where was that from?
20. gavin_t Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Southend, essex Posts: 2079 1999 mk2 VTS EP3 2004 civic type r

    #20 16th February 2010, 18:16

    Yer that sounds like a really good deal especially with warrenty
    
    Tempted buy that and putting my quaife in but then id be ruining the warrenty
21. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #21 16th February 2010, 18:54

    if you dont like the xsi box, id personally sell that box and get another rebuilt with another diff.
    
    The cost of stripping it down, removing the diff and making the crown wheel scrap effectively, then paying to get another crown wheel machined etc...
22. gavin_t Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Southend, essex Posts: 2079 1999 mk2 VTS EP3 2004 civic type r

    #22 16th February 2010, 20:00

    its a S2 rallye box, only thing XSi is the final drive
23. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #23 16th February 2010, 23:57

    the only thing that differs in an xsi and an s2 rallye box is the FD
    the gears are the same its just the pinion shaft and crown wheel that were changed so its now an xsi box