JP4 Covers. Prices, part numbers, all you need to know

1. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #1 16th February 2010, 18:23

   Well more and more of these questions are being asked so i thought id post up something worthwhile
   
   
   
   JP4 front cover
   Part number = 0248 L6
   Price inc VAT = £56.25
   
   JP4 back cover
   Part number = 0248 L7
   Price inc VAT = £50.07
   
   Please note that:
   
   Both covers do come with brand new seals when bought new
   Front cover also comes with oil filler cap
   
   Replacement seal
   Part number = 0249 A9
   Price inc VAT = £5.78
   
   Replacement oil filler cap
   Part number = 0258 56
   Price inc VAT = £3.62
   
   Bolts
   Part number = 0250 74
   Price inc VAT = £0.13
   
   Your existing J4 cover bolts are fine to use as measurment wise they are the same
   
   If you want some new ones from somewhere else the measurements are:
   
   M6 x 1mm thread pitch x 20mm thread length
   
   
   
   Breather piping
   Part number = 1192 W0
   Price inc VAT = £36.14
   
   Lastly coilpack cover parts
   
   
   
   Coil Pack cover
   Part number = 5964 35
   Price inc VAT = £8.14
   
   Coil pack cover screws (x6)
   Part number = 6924 10
   Price inc VAT = £0.41 each
   
   Citroen badge
   Part number = 1566 20
   Price inc VAT £7.09
   
   
   That should cover everything. Hope it helps

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2. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #2 16th February 2010, 18:53

   Stickied. Thanks Willsy
3. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #3 16th February 2010, 20:52

   very good info!!
   
   very pricey glad i didnt pay that
   
   i did get the bolts, and glad to hear you can get replacement seal for these aswell
   
   andy
4. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #4 16th February 2010, 21:39

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by J222JRA Stickied. Thanks Willsy

   Cheers James Just edited it to include coil pack cover parts too

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5. Slugshead Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Cardiff Posts: 1087 1.4 Red Westcoast Mk2 Posi Blue VTS

   #5 16th February 2010, 21:41

   £7 for the citroen badge!!! fcuk that haha
6. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

   #6 16th February 2010, 22:02

   nice one mate, thanks a lot.
7. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #7 16th February 2010, 22:02

   Thanks for the edit Willsy....im now armed with a list of product numbers for my trip to citroen lol
8. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #8 16th February 2010, 23:12

   lol no problem, happy to help
   
   All of the above are the part numbers for Citroen.
   
   If anyone has a Peugeot closer to them and would like the equivalent part numbers from Pug ill dig those out too, the covers themselves are identical part numbers, its just the odds and sods that vary
9. MJ05LLY Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Doncaster Posts: 1616 Audi TTS

   #9 16th February 2010, 23:46

   Two questions. The breather pipe, do I need to fit the JP4 one? As these have a breather hole on both the front and back cover?
   Question two, the seal that comes with the covers, this is a tight seal/gasket between the cover and the head I take it, so no silicon is needed like on the orignal J4 head to cover?
   Matt
10. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #10 16th February 2010, 23:56

    yes you need the jp4 breather hose.
    no you dont need silicon as the rubber seal(s) is way superior to the vts rocker cover seals.
11. MJ05LLY Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Doncaster Posts: 1616 Audi TTS

    #11 17th February 2010, 00:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by johnnyg_vts yes you need the jp4 breather hose. no you dont need silicon as the rubber seal(s) is way superior to the vts rocker cover seals.

    Grrr I got my cover today and didn't think to get the breather pipe. Only just thought bout it when looking at the diagram! Hopefully time to pick it up tomorrow!
    Thank god for the seal cos wow I was having fun with the silicon stuff on my original covers!
    £7 for the citroen badge has made me lol though. Great guide and thank you too Jonny!
12. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #12 17th February 2010, 08:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slugshead £7 for the citroen badge!!! fcuk that haha

    Rumour has it that the Peugeot badge is slightly more expensive...
13. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #13 17th February 2010, 08:36

    Other than the cosmetic benefit, is there any other advantage to fitting these over the standard vts ones?
14. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #14 17th February 2010, 08:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 Other than the cosmetic benefit, is there any other advantage to fitting these over the standard vts ones?

    The seal is replaceable Craig so whem they are removed and re-fitted the dont leak

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15. MJ05LLY Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Doncaster Posts: 1616 Audi TTS

    #15 17th February 2010, 10:08

    The breather pipe... On my car now is rubber pipe with citroens amazing version of a jublee clip, on the one I got with the covers its plastic with them clip on fittings. The clip on fitting are too big for my breather (Blue arrows) etc and only fit the cover. How do I get around this? I tried to bend my plastic pipe to get it close to where it needs to be and it broke
    
    
    
    So now I've gotta go get another, but what's best way of fitting this?
    
    Matt
16. MJ05LLY Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Doncaster Posts: 1616 Audi TTS

    #16 17th February 2010, 14:17

    Anyone
17. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #17 17th February 2010, 14:25

    take both the breather pipes off (after the 'Y' piece)
    
    And then replace them with some oil/fuel pipe and then some fuel pipe clamps or something along those lines.
    
    Nothing to difficult about making them fit

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18. clgale88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Wiltshire Posts: 144 Saxo VTS

    #18 19th February 2010, 15:36

    Went to citroen today to find out they no longer do the replacement seal for the rocker cover. they said its gota use liquid seal now.
19. clgale88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Wiltshire Posts: 144 Saxo VTS

    #19 19th February 2010, 15:55

    Just found out from my mate from citroen that its actuallt the c2 rocker seal which iv just relised from the title lol. But can you still use the same rubber sill from the jp4 c2 rocker to fit on the standard j4 VTS rocker cover
20. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #20 19th February 2010, 16:02

    
    
    Using MJ's pic - thanks BTW - I have the 2 pipes in the top right of the picure, leading to just one pipe. I have a blocker, so there's no 4th pipe. I want to buy some tubing to fit a proper catch tank, can anyone tell me what the correct tubing diameter is to fit over the centre piece / ditribution point showed in the middle of the pic?
21. Richy_Rich Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sidcup/Notts Posts: 1484 106 Gti

    #21 29th March 2010, 18:24

    Has anyone trued to replace the seals, and found that the seals seem to be a part of the bottom plate?
22. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #22 29th March 2010, 19:17

    This is why people upgrade to jp4 covers.....the seal is seperate to the cover.
    
    J4 covers do not have a removable seal.
    
    James
23. Richy_Rich Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sidcup/Notts Posts: 1484 106 Gti

    #23 29th March 2010, 19:31

    Sorry, I didnt really explain well!
    
    Basicly I have a pair of jp4 covers, and I was recommended to change the seals, so i bought the seals, went to replace these, but the seals on the plates don't come off..ill get a pic
24. Richy_Rich Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sidcup/Notts Posts: 1484 106 Gti

    #24 29th March 2010, 19:34

    
    
    Heres what I mean, the middle bit comes out, but the seal around the edges wont come off
25. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #25 29th March 2010, 19:39

    the seals 100% come out - and are replaceable, pic is hard to see what you are talking about.
26. Richy_Rich Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sidcup/Notts Posts: 1484 106 Gti

    #26 29th March 2010, 19:48

    Ok, well the middle part is a plate, that comes out, but the seal around the edge of that plate doesn't!
    
    Ill try and get another pic hold on
27. Richy_Rich Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sidcup/Notts Posts: 1484 106 Gti

    #27 29th March 2010, 19:57

    
    
    on the left is the 'plate' with the seal around it, and it is bonded on
    
    
    
    Thats it together
28. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #28 29th March 2010, 20:09

    you can see the groove where the seal would sit/is sitting on the right hand part of the cover.
29. Richy_Rich Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sidcup/Notts Posts: 1484 106 Gti

    #29 29th March 2010, 20:12

    Yer, I tried placing the new seal on there and then placing the plate back in, but it wont fit. I think to replace the seal I need new plates!
    
    Will they be ok to put on as they are?
30. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #30 29th March 2010, 20:21

    you don't need new plates to replace the seals - you don't even need to touch the plates to replace the seals, they simply pull off from the camshaft cover.
    
    You got a pic of the camshaft covers from the top? They def jp4 ones yeh?
31. Richy_Rich Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sidcup/Notts Posts: 1484 106 Gti

    #31 29th March 2010, 20:57

    Yer, hold on! Ill get another pic!
    
    hmm......there isnt any rubber seals on the cam covers
32. Richy_Rich Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sidcup/Notts Posts: 1484 106 Gti

    #32 29th March 2010, 21:03

    From the top of one cover
    
    
    
    close up of on end
    
    
    
    and then from the underside
    
    
    
    sorry for the crap quality! iphone
33. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #33 29th March 2010, 22:17

    The seal is right there in the bottom pic, just pull it off and replace it if need be
34. Richy_Rich Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sidcup/Notts Posts: 1484 106 Gti

    #34 29th March 2010, 22:33

    Yer, I thought that was the seal, maybe i was explaing properly above, that its sealed/bonded/part of the plate
    
    
    
    You can see on 'bond' that it sort of steps down a few times
35. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #35 29th March 2010, 22:51

    Sorry but I don't understand what you're asking?
    
    You trying to replace the seal? You got a new seal?
36. Richy_Rich Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sidcup/Notts Posts: 1484 106 Gti

    #36 29th March 2010, 23:38

    Right,
    
    Sorry for all the confusion.
    
    I had these jp4 covers, went to fit them, and I was recommended to replace the seals before I did. So i bought new seals, went to fit them today and found out that the seal doesn't come off.
    
    So i was checking if it'll be fine, and seeing if anyone has had the same problem
37. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

    #37 30th March 2010, 01:01

    Quick Q... are these the same covers as the ones I had on my engine, but back in 2001? Back in the day, the covers I had stuck up too much with the Mk1 Saxo bonnet and hit one of the reinforcing ridges.
    
    This makes me think these covers are slightly different? Can anyone confirm?
    
    Still have them lying around somewhere
38. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #38 30th March 2010, 01:11

    old man yes they are JP4s on the old heap
    
    I know some people like s1 106 owners have spaced the bonnet for clearance
39. dave106 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 selston, east mids Posts: 224 mk1 vts, Peugeot 106 s1 gti conversion-for sale

    #39 30th March 2010, 18:52

    Do these seals fit the j4 covers aswell? Or is it still possible to get seals for the j4 covers?
40. Jim-Bob Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...

    #40 30th March 2010, 18:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dave106 Do these seals fit the j4 covers aswell? Or is it still possible to get seals for the j4 covers?

    No, J4's do not have replacement seals, gasket sealant is what you need if the seals are shot
    
    Answered above too:
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA This is why people upgrade to jp4 covers.....the seal is seperate to the cover. J4 covers do not have a removable seal. James

    James
41. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #41 30th March 2010, 20:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dave106 Do these seals fit the j4 covers aswell? Or is it still possible to get seals for the j4 covers?

    Sealant or buy some covers where the seals are not shot with the j4
42. dave106 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 selston, east mids Posts: 224 mk1 vts, Peugeot 106 s1 gti conversion-for sale

    #42 31st March 2010, 08:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan Sealant or buy some covers where the seals are not shot with the j4

    I know people use the sealant but I've just painted my the head and didn't want sealant or anything going on it. I'm getting the bottomsachinef flat so they seal s bit better but wondered if these seals would work for j4 covers. Or can you still buy the j4 seals separately? Cheers though
43. Olly Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Meerkat Harborough Posts: 2638 Saxo vtr mk 2

    #43 31st March 2010, 08:46

    cant replace the j4 seals. Could try turning them upside down then putting a even bead of setting/silicone sealant on letting it dry, then try bolting that down, to avoit the selant squirting out. Bit whoreish though
44. user_32481 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Milk 'n' Beans (Milton Keynes, MK2) Posts: 3243 MK1 Trackin S engined R, 112.5 ATW, approx 135 ATF

    #44 23rd June 2011, 11:01

    Great Thread
45. dervu Newbie Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 4 Peugeot 106 XSi 1.6 16v TU5J4 Turbo

    #45 18th September 2012, 19:53

    Can I replace baffle plates from JP4 together with its covers to J4?