furio go faster?

1. Hamster L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Colchester Posts: 52 2000 Saxo Furio 1.4

   #1 5th March 2010, 12:11

   Ok, so ive had a few idea's, will they work
   
   Ive already got, inclosed raceland and a ashley group exhaust.
   
   so what else can i do? and i dont wanna drop a bigger engine in it.
   
   Thanks.
2. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

   #2 5th March 2010, 12:16

   if your fitting cams to see any real benefit your going to need a remap. so the price of the cams and the remap you could have had a vtr or even a vts engine fitted.
   
   If you search you will find hundreds of threads that suggest this and its purely because its the easiest, cheaper and better option. then once you get board of the vtr/s power then you can look to mod that.
3. Hamster L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Colchester Posts: 52 2000 Saxo Furio 1.4

   #3 5th March 2010, 12:20

   Alrite cool, nice one
4. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #4 5th March 2010, 12:48

   my cost effective reliable plan would be an engine swap
5. Alexywhite Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Oxford Posts: 222 Citroen Saxo VTR MK2 DC2 Integra Type R EP3 Civi

   #5 5th March 2010, 13:02

   Just put a bigger engine in. Modifying anything <1.6 = A money pit!
6. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #6 5th March 2010, 13:08

   want instant power? drop a 16v engine in no need to change loom and bosh a 16v ecu on easiest way of doing a 16v conversion
7. MiDnighTcLuB Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Weston-Super-Mare Posts: 672 Mapped 306 HDI

   #7 5th March 2010, 17:19

   I think what alot of people tend to forget is that it isn't as easy as you think to just 'drop' in a vts/vtr lump , first you have to buy it and then you have to have paid to get it fitted unless you do it yourself , what happened to modifying a car for the fun of it on a budget and making it a bit quicker for fun ? mate i got a furio with a cat back ashley exhaust system and a induction kit with cold air feed, i've already got LOADS of extra acceleration from the feel of it and have done a couple of standard vtrs... its worth gettin the basics
8. MiDnighTcLuB Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Weston-Super-Mare Posts: 672 Mapped 306 HDI

   #8 5th March 2010, 17:20

   AND... that 'legaly' you have to tell your insurance company obv about any mods you do ofc.
9. MiDnighTcLuB Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Weston-Super-Mare Posts: 672 Mapped 306 HDI

   #9 5th March 2010, 17:22

   Which if you told your insurance company you dropped a vts lump in it would make it DOUBLE easily and you may aswell just have a vts in the first place
10. liam-o Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1346

    #10 5th March 2010, 17:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB I think what alot of people tend to forget is that it isn't as easy as you think to just 'drop' in a vts/vtr lump , first you have to buy it and then you have to have paid to get it fitted unless you do it yourself , what happened to modifying a car for the fun of it on a budget and making it a bit quicker for fun ? mate i got a furio with a cat back ashley exhaust system and a induction kit with cold air feed, i've already got LOADS of extra acceleration from the feel of it and have done a couple of standard vtrs... its worth gettin the basics

    loving the tripple post, however, your trying to say adding "cat back ashley exhaust system and a induction kit with cold air feed" has put you up roughly 15bhp to match or even beat a VTR?
    
    i mean, dont get me wrong, bhp isnt everything, but the cars are pretty much identical on all factors apart from performance where the VTR is much quicker
    
    i wouldn't even humour you with asking for proof
    
    back on topic: you could add an enclosed induction kit, strip it, straight through exhaust, better mani, etc etc
    
    but like said, for the cost, drop in a VTR or VTS lump
    
    in terms of insurance, i think an engine swap would be cheaper than a heavily modified 1.4 engine, with likes of cams, remap, different mani etc etc
11. MiDnighTcLuB Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Weston-Super-Mare Posts: 672 Mapped 306 HDI

    #11 5th March 2010, 17:45

    I know... i thoguht of stuff after i orginally posted lol.. anywhoo.. i wasn't nessicerily saying that i had more power than a vtr .. end of the day it's how you drive it and if your changing gear at the wrong time and dont know how to drive then my less performance becomes pretty much irrelivant , and in terms of cheapness an engine swap isn't that cheap and if you tell your insurance company its still massivly expensive... and i know in general if you do want huge gains you will be best off getting a bigger engine BUT.. for like a first car it just pisses me off when the first thing people post is 'GET A VTS/VTR LUMP' .. maybe people want to upgrade there curent engines a bit first ??
12. Hamster L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Colchester Posts: 52 2000 Saxo Furio 1.4

    #12 5th March 2010, 22:33

    so what mani would you recomend?
    
    what about chaning the head? i dont know what that involves.
13. user_41433 Established Member Joined: Feb 2010 8 inches in your mum Posts: 1007 Lexus LS400 V8 Range Rover 4.6 litre HSE V8

    #13 5th March 2010, 22:46

    16v it.. save fannying about and spending pointless money
14. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #14 5th March 2010, 22:53

    instant, easy peasy, faster?
    
    Remove seats, spare wheel, empty mcdonalds happymeal cartons, subs, everythingggg!!!
    
    that's the easiest way to speed the damn thing up.
15. c20xejay Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Wakefield Posts: 594 seat leon fr

    #15 5th March 2010, 22:59

    hes said he doesnt want an engine swap....
16. user_40844 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Lancashire Posts: 418 r.i.p furio..... now a vtr (y)

    #16 6th March 2010, 00:05

    manifold, staight through exaust, drop weight, chip the ecu... i know what u mean by 'dont want a engine change' ive got a furio and for a 1st car im loving it and want a vtr/vts when i can actual afford it not when ive just turned 17.
    you got a progress? wouldnt mind seeing what youve done to yours to get extra brake...
17. Hamster L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Colchester Posts: 52 2000 Saxo Furio 1.4

    #17 6th March 2010, 00:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shea manifold, staight through exaust, drop weight, chip the ecu... i know what u mean by 'dont want a engine change' ive got a furio and for a 1st car im loving it and want a vtr/vts when i can actual afford it not when ive just turned 17. you got a progress? wouldnt mind seeing what youve done to yours to get extra brake...

    I have one on 106owners club
    havent copyed it over yet...
    http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/sh....php?p=1536376
    theres the link
18. user_40844 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Lancashire Posts: 418 r.i.p furio..... now a vtr (y)

    #18 6th March 2010, 00:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hamster I have one on 106owners club havent copyed it over yet... http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/sh....php?p=1536376 theres the link

    looks nice, the new bonnet... could just get it knocked out for like £20 ? doesnt seem to look that bad.
    should hopefully be doin mine soon... when i evntualy get paid
19. Jim-Bob Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...

    #19 6th March 2010, 00:13

    Most sensible thing to do imo is save your pennies and buy a VTS
    
    Failing that, cams and remap, brake upgrade (VTS or 266mm), suspension upgrade (apex -50mm kit on a budget), 1.1 or VTS gearbox, strip it/remove weight where possible (spare wheel, unneeded junk).
    
    Standard VTS would wipe the floor witht that though and the insurance costs would be similar, but its your car and your money, so its your decision
    
    James
20. jakeyboi Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Coalville, Leicestershire Posts: 1000 mk6 fiesta

    #20 6th March 2010, 11:22

    as said above, put a 1.1 box or 1.4 xsi box on ... see more aceleration
21. Hamster L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Colchester Posts: 52 2000 Saxo Furio 1.4

    #21 6th March 2010, 11:55

    Ok cool, cheers boys
22. user_41433 Established Member Joined: Feb 2010 8 inches in your mum Posts: 1007 Lexus LS400 V8 Range Rover 4.6 litre HSE V8

    #22 6th March 2010, 12:01

    just 16v it ben
23. miamibluebaby Established Member Joined: May 2009 Ellesmere (Shropshire) Posts: 1044 superchared 106 gti

    #23 6th March 2010, 18:56

    in a word, boost.
    
    in a few words, swap head for xsi or rallye and use either ecu
    
    in a few more words again, save your money, by a vts, and just have fun in the car in the meantime
24. fdrightup Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 125

    #24 7th March 2010, 13:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alexywhite Just put a bigger engine in. Modifying anything <1.6 = A money pit!

    not if you do it your self worked out that i have saved £5000 by doing this