AST Sportline coilovers

1. Taylor_MK Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 119 R.I.P Zetec S Saxo Vtr 2001

   #1 12th March 2010, 01:30

   http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...roen-saxo.html
   
   Does anyone know if these are any good at all. Looking for a mid range setup that will slam the front. says on the specs it will drop 100mm.
2. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #2 12th March 2010, 08:38

   Are a fairly good item but for 100mm there's no point as your putting good coilovers on a car that's not built performance in anyway. 100mm will just sit wishbones in your shell
3. sir_dave Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 1228 Trophy #433

   #3 12th March 2010, 09:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Taylor_MK http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...roen-saxo.html Does anyone know if these are any good at all. Looking for a mid range setup that will slam the front. says on the specs it will drop 100mm.

   Please dont waste a set of AST's on your car.
   
   Just chop the springs or buy some of those cr4ppy raceland coilovers, they will 'slam yo car' ...
4. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #4 12th March 2010, 12:07

   They are a very good coilover unit. They take a few weeks to get in though as they are custom made to order.
   
   Kev

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5. MiDnighTcLuB Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Weston-Super-Mare Posts: 672 Mapped 306 HDI

   #5 12th March 2010, 13:03

   TBH i got the raceland coilovers and they're ment to drop i think 80mm and althoguh everyone said they rubbish there not bad for the money , handles better and looks better , much cheaper , why not ?
6. MiDnighTcLuB Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Weston-Super-Mare Posts: 672 Mapped 306 HDI

   #6 12th March 2010, 13:09

   Just to let you know i only dropped my car 40mm on the raceland coilys and i don't have any problems, just a bit uncomfy over pot holes lol
7. Taylor_MK Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 119 R.I.P Zetec S Saxo Vtr 2001

   #7 16th March 2010, 02:29

   I already have those coilovers and they are not good value for money... There Shit lol. Every pot hole i hit they bottom out. I want a good setup that will slam the car. There must be something on the market that will do it. Any one help... FKs, GAZ.... any suggestions appreciated for a euro look so does need to be low but good quality! thanks, sam
8. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

   #8 16th March 2010, 02:39

   They're a good setup for handling, if you want to slam the car though they're not for you. That's not what they're designed to do, so that's why you're having problems.
9. Taylor_MK Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 119 R.I.P Zetec S Saxo Vtr 2001

   #9 16th March 2010, 02:47

   Fair enough. Well im stuck then. i really have never known such hassle to put a car loww. I see plenty around but no one seems to know the best options.. My Zetec S was straight forward enough with a set of APs. Not many for the saxo mind.. hmmmm???
10. Olly Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Meerkat Harborough Posts: 2638 Saxo vtr mk 2

    #10 16th March 2010, 07:14

    Dont throw your rattle outta the pram lol, a gaz kit will do it with the right spring setup. Or make your own setup up from rally design etc.....
    
    Or ask people that are low on here?? Simples
11. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #11 16th March 2010, 08:20

    one advantage of the AST's are that they don't need the hubs modifying. They are designed to fit in the same way as o/e dampers but still with height adjustment.
    
    Graeme
12. Taylor_MK Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 119 R.I.P Zetec S Saxo Vtr 2001

    #12 16th March 2010, 11:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Olly Dont throw your rattle outta the pram lol, a gaz kit will do it with the right spring setup. Or make your own setup up from rally design etc..... Or ask people that are low on here?? Simples

    Im not getting arsy... but when people are saying dont waste ASTs on your car as if because im going low, i should put shite ones on there. Just looking for my best options.
13. Taylor_MK Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 119 R.I.P Zetec S Saxo Vtr 2001

    #13 16th March 2010, 11:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing one advantage of the AST's are that they don't need the hubs modifying. They are designed to fit in the same way as o/e dampers but still with height adjustment. Graeme

    ahh rite. Out of interest, How will using these prevent the bottoming out problem i suffer at the moment using budgets as the clearance is very minimal.. so how is the gap increased with the same drop?? Different spring seats?
14. sir_dave Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 1228 Trophy #433

    #14 16th March 2010, 14:08

    Most definately an epic reading failure on my part ...
15. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #15 16th March 2010, 14:11

    dave i think the OP is saying he has racelands allready not the ASTs.
    
    The reason that fez's are easy is because they have a coil/strut on each corner. Saxos you dont and thus thats why the suspension set ups are different.
16. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #16 16th March 2010, 14:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB TBH i got the raceland coilovers and they're ment to drop i think 80mm and althoguh everyone said they rubbish there not bad for the money , handles better and looks better , much cheaper , why not ?

    Everyone dosent say theyre rubbish, they say they dont work and are dangerous.
17. sir_dave Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 1228 Trophy #433

    #17 16th March 2010, 14:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan dave i think the OP is saying he has racelands allready not the ASTs. The reason that fez's are easy is because they have a coil/strut on each corner. Saxos you dont and thus thats why the suspension set ups are different.

    FLOL. My bad.
    
    I stand by my point though, please dont waste a set of AST's on a car that just wants 'slamming'. They are an epic piece of kit.
18. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #18 16th March 2010, 16:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Taylor_MK ahh rite. Out of interest, How will using these prevent the bottoming out problem i suffer at the moment using budgets as the clearance is very minimal.. so how is the gap increased with the same drop?? Different spring seats?

    First they are designed to run low so have enough piston movement before hitting the bumpstop, they are also valved and sprung correctly. The budget kits are usually too soft so allow the car to bottom out.
    The less movement you have, the more you need to control it.
    The road springs on the AST are 170lb which is the minimum i'd want. I'd be tempted by 220lb.
19. Taylor_MK Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 119 R.I.P Zetec S Saxo Vtr 2001

    #19 17th March 2010, 03:41

    Ahh rite. Im still a bit concerned tho as to whether it will bottom out. the gap i probably 20mm between the top and bottom mounts so i know that by putting stiffer springs on will reduce the bottoming out but to me thats still a very minimal gap. I thought the more expensive kits come with a complete hub/ strut assembly (I assumed the bottom spring seat would sit lower than on a standard strut assembly). Confused.. Sorry for all the questions, just wanna get it right this time, already made a bad mistake in going for budgets lol. thanks, sam
20. Olly Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Meerkat Harborough Posts: 2638 Saxo vtr mk 2

    #20 17th March 2010, 07:19

    think the budgets can be made to work tbh mate, Have a look on here unless you have already done that to them?
    
    The more expensive kits can be fitted to modified struts buy ast/gaz leda etc. Can get the steering arms turned upside down so they sit more level when low (safer) and also get the dampers plugged/shortened so youd only need a 6 inch spring etc You wont get much more tube thread by doing this however as the srms can only be moved down by a little. Plus it will be SHockingly expensive to do.
21. Taylor_MK Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 119 R.I.P Zetec S Saxo Vtr 2001

    #21 18th March 2010, 00:22

    Hmm. I have read through the thread about the budget coilovers, but i still dont fully understand how using a larger top spring mount will stop it bottoming aout as its still in the same place plus youve then cut your spring so the travel will surely be shorter will it not?? im really confused now lmao. Does the 3 inch top mount let the threaded tube pass through the middle of the new spring seat?? thats all i can see that will change anything. thanks