Does this clutch look f**ked to you?

  1. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #1
    Sorry i don't know much about clutches, but my car was making a horrible scraping sound when i pressed the clutch in, and the car shook violently when pulling off

  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #2
    Hard to tell from pics as I can't make out how close the material is to the dowls, but by the look of it it's worn but I wudnt say nakerd. Have u checked the thrust bearing?
  3. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #3
    post some pictures up of the thrust bearing, the gearbox side of the pressure plate, and the other side of the clutch itself.
  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #4
    pics will be up in 2 min
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #5
    pics as requested






  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #6
    it all looks fine to me
  7. Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Sawbridgeworth Posts: 1883 Black VTR, Clio 172. Gaz Coilovers, Stealth Exhaus
    #7
    nout wrong with that!
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mint-VTR View Post
    nout wrong with that!
    grrr i was kinda hoping i needed a new clutch, then it meant i found the problem, if everything is alright why was my car making such a horrible sound when pressing the clutch in and shaking really violently pulling off, it was shaking that much it would pop out of gear
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #9
    maybe it was just the thrust bearing not being on the shaft properly? but it drove fine for about 100miles, the thrust bearing was on the shaft when i took the box off but it wasn't clipped on if you get me? but i was shaking the box quite a bit getting it off so it could have came un-clipped when removing the box,
  10. Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 maidstone Posts: 702 saxo vtr
    #10
    engine mount? gearbox mount?
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #11
    doesnt explain why it was making a horrible sound
    this is the video of the clutch making the sound if you wanna watch it
  12. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #12
    yeah i would check mounts - mine had a bolt missing and it would throw it out of gear, pop the linkages off etc
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  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gareth_R View Post
    yeah i would check mounts - mine had a bolt missing and it would throw it out of gear, pop the linkages off etc
    i think im gonna invest in some new mounts and rose jointed gear linkages, but i still dont know why it was making such a loud scraping noise
  14. Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno
    #14
    well the clutch has pleny left on it
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  15. Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Derby Posts: 1153 VW Passat 1.9tdi 150
    #15
    same noise as mine was making and it got slowly worse until the release bearing went and replaced the whole clutch while it was all in bits and it hasnt made the noise since my mates bearing looked ok when he took his off but started to make noises

    hope this helps
    luke
  16. Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SnakeVTR View Post
    well the clutch has pleny left on it
    regarding the noise- when you fitted the release bearing did you make sure it was hooked under the clutch fork properly, it sort of slots on
  17. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #17
    The only thing that looks funny is the hot part on the pressure plate that the clutch material is against? Looks like something has got hot and rubbed? - how does the release bearing feel? Rough or spins nicely?

    Definitely sounds like a clutch orientated noise to me - hard one to call tbh
  18. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke-saxo View Post
    same noise as mine was making and it got slowly worse until the release bearing went and replaced the whole clutch while it was all in bits and it hasnt made the noise since my mates bearing looked ok when he took his off but started to make noises

    hope this helps
    luke
    cheers, this noise hasn't slowly cam on, one day it just started making that noise, i don't particularly wanna change the clutch as its pretty much brand new

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SnakeVTR View Post
    regarding the noise- when you fitted the release bearing did you make sure it was hooked under the clutch fork properly, it sort of slots on
    yea it was slotted on as far as i am aware, but by all means it might have came off while we were fitting the box back on but like i said it drove fine for a while, so unless it came off while i was on the car??

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    The only thing that looks funny is the hot part on the pressure plate that the clutch material is against? Looks like something has got hot and rubbed? - how does the release bearing feel? Rough or spins nicely?

    Definitely sounds like a clutch orientated noise to me - hard one to call tbh
    the release bearing spins freely, god this is annoying I'm sure if i bought a new clutch kit it would probably sort the problem out but id rather know whats up with it so i don't waste money i haven't got lol
  19. Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti
    #19
    Arguably for the ballache of doing a clutch you may aswell replace it now anyways if you can afford it?
  20. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bickerton View Post
    Arguably for the ballache of doing a clutch you may aswell replace it now anyways if you can afford it?
    meh doing a clutch is second nature to me now lol can bang one out in a day if i really tired lol and considering that one is pretty new i don't want to just chuck more money at it, and yea i cant really afford it just bought a load of goodies from kamracing and then this happened, also i want my cambelt doing which is gonna cost a bit as im gonna pay for someone to do that
  21. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Milton Keynes Posts: 1210 Yellow 106 Rallye
    #21
    Just a thought, as everything clutch related seems ok, have you checked the endfloat on the crank?
  22. Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Derby Posts: 1153 VW Passat 1.9tdi 150
    #22
    yeah mine did one day started it n put the clutch down and started making that noise and then got worse if the clutch is new i think you can buy the bearing on its own
  23. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Beaniemoo View Post
    Just a thought, as everything clutch related seems ok, have you checked the endfloat on the crank?
    i really dont know what that is lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke-saxo View Post
    yeah mine did one day started it n put the clutch down and started making that noise and then got worse if the clutch is new i think you can buy the bearing on its own
    yea i might invest in just a new bearing
  24. Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 milton keynes Posts: 334 saxo mk1 vtr in posssiiiii blue
    #24
    that compression plate looks like its got really hot on one place at the bottom,was it a new clutch?clutch could be faulty?
  25. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #25
    isnt that just the reflection of the fella taking the picture?
  26. Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP
    #26
    All of them parts look fine, tryed rorating the bearing in the cluth plate and thrust bearing??

    Check the flywheel face too see if its smooth while its out, it may need skimming

    other than that its more than likely to be your driveshaft at fault
  27. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by yetisvtr View Post
    that compression plate looks like its got really hot on one place at the bottom,was it a new clutch?clutch could be faulty?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gareth_R View Post
    isnt that just the reflection of the fella taking the picture?
    yea lol that is me taking the photo should have mentioned that

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_R32 View Post
    All of them parts look fine, tryed rorating the bearing in the cluth plate and thrust bearing??

    Check the flywheel face too see if its smooth while its out, it may need skimming

    other than that its more than likely to be your driveshaft at fault
    would a drive shaft make that noise while pressing in the clutch? i only just changed the drive shafts, i bought them off mandyslover and one of the clips have came loose? would this have anything to do with it??
  28. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 99
    #28
    looks alright
  29. L-plater Joined: Dec 2009 Witham, Essex Posts: 85 N/A
    #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffchiz View Post
    doesnt explain why it was making a horrible sound
    this is the video of the clutch making the sound if you wanna watch it
    "Press the middle one" Are you sure your clutch is located there

    haha
  30. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SaxGeek View Post
    "Press the middle one" Are you sure your clutch is located there

    haha
    lmao my bad
  31. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Milton Keynes Posts: 1210 Yellow 106 Rallye
    #31
    Sorry, it might be worth checking for lengthways play in the crank.
    You have thrust washers on one of the journels on your crank shaft to prevent it moving forward and back and if they wear the crank can move.
    Not sure of it will be enough to notice but it might be worth checking/feeling if your crank moves in/out when the clutch is depressed?
    Unlikely but its an idea if your really stuck.
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  32. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #32
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Beaniemoo View Post
    Sorry, it might be worth checking for lengthways play in the crank.
    You have thrust washers on one of the journels on your crank shaft to prevent it moving forward and back and if they wear the crank can move.
    Not sure of it will be enough to notice but it might be worth checking/feeling if your crank moves in/out when the clutch is depressed?
    Unlikely but its an idea if your really stuck.
    cheers mate! thanks for explaining that to me I'll give it a check tomorrow, im knackered just fitted new dampers and discs and it wasn't exactly plain sailing lol
  33. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Milton Keynes Posts: 1210 Yellow 106 Rallye
    #33
    Things never are, are they lol!
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  34. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #34
    Take a pic of the inpuet shaft.

    Only think that I can see wrong is the clutch plate looks like its had somthing rotating unevenly in the center. See the clean metal in the center where it goes over the input shaft?



    Check the casing round the input shaft imo
  35. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #35
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by db_sax View Post
    Take a pic of the inpuet shaft.

    Only think that I can see wrong is the clutch plate looks like its had somthing rotating unevenly in the center. See the clean metal in the center where it goes over the input shaft?



    Check the casing round the input shaft imo
    the input shafts looks alright mate, bear in mind this clutch has had three gear box changes lol so its likely that the shaft has hit the edge of the clutch a few times