Dipped beams and high beams - headlights

1. user_35975 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Alton - Hampshire Posts: 1029 Silver mk2 vtr - r.i.p furio

   #1 5th June 2010, 22:13

   Evening,
   
   On most new cars when you engage the full/main beam the dipped stays on, with the saxo the dipped turns off. Question is, how can I change the wiring on my sax to get the dipped to stay on when I pull the main beam stalk?
2. dav0506 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Leeds Posts: 1761 Mk2 Saxo VTR 2001 (Two tone silver)

   #2 5th June 2010, 22:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SneakyVTR Evening, On most new cars when you engage the full/main beam the dipped stays on, with the saxo the dipped turns off. Question is, how can I change the wiring on my sax to get the dipped to stay on when I pull the main beam stalk?

   How old is your saxo? my dipped stay on even when i have full on.
3. user_35975 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Alton - Hampshire Posts: 1029 Silver mk2 vtr - r.i.p furio

   #3 5th June 2010, 22:29

   Thats what I find odd, most cars stay on. It's a 51 plate, registered on the 27th of december 01 iirc? Any help?
4. dav0506 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Leeds Posts: 1761 Mk2 Saxo VTR 2001 (Two tone silver)

   #4 5th June 2010, 22:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SneakyVTR Thats what I find odd, most cars stay on. It's a 51 plate, registered on the 27th of december 01 iirc? Any help?

   You sure you don't have a fault in the wiring?
   
   Mine is a 51 plate, registered sept '01, and i gather by your username that you have a VTR too so it can't be the model.
   
   Why does it bother you?
5. user_35975 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Alton - Hampshire Posts: 1029 Silver mk2 vtr - r.i.p furio

   #5 5th June 2010, 22:37

   Well it is a furio, I registered on here before I got the car originally was planning on a VTR but this popped up and was a steal.
   
   It doesn't bother me to much but it just annoys me that they switch off as it would be so much brighter with them on. Perhaps pick up a new relay from a newish vtr at a scrappy?
6. dav0506 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Leeds Posts: 1761 Mk2 Saxo VTR 2001 (Two tone silver)

   #6 5th June 2010, 23:00

   Might be because it's a furio then.
7. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

   #7 5th June 2010, 23:11

   sounds like bad earth or fault in wiring.........
8. user_35975 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Alton - Hampshire Posts: 1029 Silver mk2 vtr - r.i.p furio

   #8 5th June 2010, 23:12

   But why would they both work seperately if there was a fault? I looked in the haynes manual but can't work out anything from the headlight wiring diagram!
9. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

   #9 5th June 2010, 23:15

   think you defo have earth problem mate........
10. user_35975 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Alton - Hampshire Posts: 1029 Silver mk2 vtr - r.i.p furio

    #10 5th June 2010, 23:19

    hmm.. You know you can pull the headlight/indicator stalk when you have dipped beams on? Just before it clicks both come on and will stay on but you have to hold the stalk before it clicks. Like when you flash someone to say thank you etc.. yet when you pull it back to keep main beams on and you get that click noise to keep it there i.e night driving that is when the dipped beams turn off.. If it was an earth problem surely they wouldn't work when you hold the stalk?
    
    If anyone has a picture of the wiring diagram to post it would be appreciated..
11. user_35975 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Alton - Hampshire Posts: 1029 Silver mk2 vtr - r.i.p furio

    #11 5th June 2010, 23:23

    Found a thread, simo posted them all up in: http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24339
    
    
    
    According to that they should go off, i'm no electrician but that looks the case to me
12. sneydster Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2010 Dundee Posts: 176 Saxo West Coast

    #12 6th June 2010, 16:48

    Deffo not a fault, and probably not a thing you can do to change it apart from getting a whole new loom from a car that the lights stay on when main beam is turned on.
    
    Just for info....not all cars even new cars keep the dipped beam on when main beam is on.
    
    Also, doesn't make the lights any brighter having them both on, just the dipped beam lights the road closer to the bumper more as opposed to the main beam lighting further ahead, if you get me.
    
    Wouldn't worry about it and leave it as it is, not losing anything.
13. Cutz Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Walsall, West Midlands. Posts: 388 Black Saxo VT? ;)

    #13 6th June 2010, 19:07

    On mine, the dipped beam stay on with main beam if using them to flash etc. When you pull the stalk back so it stays on permanatly, the dipped beam turns off.
    
    This is with Angel eyes.
    
    Cutz
14. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #14 6th June 2010, 19:12

    How is this possible when saxo's use the same bulb for dipped beam and main beam?
15. sneydster Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2010 Dundee Posts: 176 Saxo West Coast

    #15 6th June 2010, 20:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 How is this possible when saxo's use the same bulb for dipped beam and main beam?

    Easy....turns one circuit off, turns the second circuit on....
16. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #16 6th June 2010, 21:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cutz On mine, the dipped beam stay on with main beam if using them to flash etc. When you pull the stalk back so it stays on permanatly, the dipped beam turns off. This is with Angel eyes. Cutz

    my standard lights do this too. thought they were all like that though
17. user_35975 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Alton - Hampshire Posts: 1029 Silver mk2 vtr - r.i.p furio

    #17 7th June 2010, 01:22

    Ahh sorry I didn't think it would matter if they were angel eye's or not?! I've got the mk2 black one's if that makes a difference.. I had a look and was thinking about checking out the multifunction switch in the relay, not sure which one is the relay for the lights though
18. blakey260 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Rotherham/Sheffield Posts: 137 Ford Focus Zetec

    #18 7th June 2010, 01:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 How is this possible when saxo's use the same bulb for dipped beam and main beam?

    exactley what i was thinking, on most cars if not all with H4 headlight bulbs when the Full beam is on constant (not as though your flashing someone) the Dipped beam goes out, if you've got two seperate bulbs (H7 dipped beam and H1 Full beam) then the dipped beam stays on.
    
    either way aslong as the road is lit up in front of you i can't see what the problemo is
19. Lil_Blue_Saxo Newbie Joined: Sep 2010 Hampshire Posts: 2 Citreon Saxo Westcoast 1.4 1999

    #19 14th September 2010, 14:17

    only one of my dipped beams work but they both work on full beam?? i checked all fuses and there all good.. wat else can i do???
20. Thomass Newbie Joined: Feb 2011 Kent Posts: 13 Saxo VTR MK1

    #20 12th April 2011, 14:59

    did anyone figure out a way on how to do this?
    im looking to do this with my MK1 1999 VTR
21. user_30040 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Bridlington Posts: 1496 Audi A3

    #21 12th April 2011, 15:14

    Mine go off aswell i have had 3 saxos and all done this never thought it was a problem
22. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #22 12th April 2011, 15:36

    It's not a problem. You'd shag the H4's if both filaments were on at the same time for a prolonged period.