Advice needed.. which looks best?

1. Newtz07 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR

   #1 17th August 2010, 14:16

   ok guys, i am thinking of spraying the inside of my bumper grill black, to create a "wide mouth" look...
   
   i have knocked up some quick proofs of before and after,
   
   can i jave some honest opinions which you think looks best.
   
   cheers
   
   btw, the edited version looks like ass, i know! lol
   
   BEFORE
   
   
   
   AFTER
   
   
   
   Again, excuse the crappy editing, and kinda squint a bit to see it clearly!
   
   thanks
2. 02furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Birmingham Posts: 331 Saxo furio MG ZR 1.8 120 Astra vxr had mx5 dr

   #2 17th August 2010, 14:21

   looks better with wide mouth
3. Newtz07 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR

   #3 17th August 2010, 14:25

   Yer i think so.
   
   every1 round my way has standard saxo's, standard wheels., no individuality at all. all generics, dont think any1s got ther balls to do anything tbh.
   
   so i am like modded saxo numero uno, which is weird!
   
   i do prefer the wide mouth, but dont wanna spray it and then it looks shit... theres no going back once that tins being squeezed!
   
   Any1 got any tips? i am gonna be using Satin Black, just a plastic primer, and laquer.
4. Rudpud Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Oxford Posts: 4547 '55 Plate C2 VTS

   #4 17th August 2010, 14:38

   Widemouth it properly
5. user_46007 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Nomadic Traveller n/a Posts: 896 16v Pug Quicksilver

   #5 17th August 2010, 14:40

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Rudpud Widemouth it properly

   + 1 it looks the shit
6. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

   #6 17th August 2010, 14:43

   yeah widemouth it properly, looks a hundred times better imo
7. Newtz07 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR

   #7 17th August 2010, 14:47

   what you mean, cut out the grill and mesh it?
   
   was thinking of that, but was just gonna do this 2night as i have the paints and stuff...
   
   not sure if i can be arsed doing all kinds of cutting and fibre glassing things smooth!
8. pteflint L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 blackhall Posts: 81 previously owned a silver saxo vtr mk1, now own as

   #8 17th August 2010, 21:01

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   did this to mine looks cool will upload a picy tomoz
9. pteflint L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 blackhall Posts: 81 previously owned a silver saxo vtr mk1, now own as

   #9 17th August 2010, 21:02

   hmmmmmmmmmmm guess a did that wrong
10. pteflint L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 blackhall Posts: 81 previously owned a silver saxo vtr mk1, now own as

    #10 17th August 2010, 21:03

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=329778
11. bourney Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 121

    #11 17th August 2010, 22:40

    looks way better painted black IMO
12. Futurism Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Stoke on Trent Posts: 433 Saxo 1.1i sx

    #12 17th August 2010, 23:05

    Widemouth looks well nice
13. Newtz07 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR

    #13 18th August 2010, 08:55

    cheers guys.
    
    i was going to do it last night, but wasnt sure if i would have enough paint. i got about half a tin of primer, half a tin of black and half a tin of lacquer... so going to go and get some more when i got some cash.
    
    will be defo doing it though. cheers
14. Newtz07 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR

    #14 18th August 2010, 09:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pteflint http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=329778

    Yer, that looks sweet at fuck
    
    see mine is colour coded, but i wanted to do the splitter black and take the wide mouth down to there. will do some photoshopping and see what its like.

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15. beermonstah Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Cheshire Posts: 540 Slammed Icelandic VTS

    #15 18th August 2010, 09:24

    only problem with spraying the bottom splitter is that its totally untreated plastic, quite alot of prep work is needed, and imo is alot harder to get a smooth shiney finish with, im still trying to get mine 100% but its worth it, i havnt seen ANY saxo's in my area like mine
16. pteflint L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 blackhall Posts: 81 previously owned a silver saxo vtr mk1, now own as

    #16 18th August 2010, 19:59

    
    mine done
17. user_36458 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Sheffield Posts: 733 mk2 cammed vts and Audi S3

    #17 19th August 2010, 00:42

    
    this is mine with bottom splitter painted this is an old photo so car looks diffrent now but you get the jist
18. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #18 19th August 2010, 01:42

    id say dont paint it, either widemouth it properly or dont do it at all
19. CoolC Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Swindon Posts: 1569 Jap Import Supra 3.0TT 430bhp 6sp

    #19 19th August 2010, 12:31

    Leave it and get it lowered instead
20. RachBabyX Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Cheshire Posts: 441 furio ;)

    #20 19th August 2010, 15:10

    paint it i think it looks nice love it on silver saxos too
21. pteflint L-plater Joined: Feb 2010 blackhall Posts: 81 previously owned a silver saxo vtr mk1, now own as

    #21 19th August 2010, 20:23

    a like it as its different
22. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #22 23rd August 2010, 08:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pteflint a like it as its different

    quite a few people have done it
23. Newtz07 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR

    #23 23rd August 2010, 15:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CoolC Leave it and get it lowered instead

    lowering is gonna cost me about £350... and to be honest i would be sick if i paid that to make my car lower!
    
    after buying an apex kit and getting it chucked on... its a 3rd of the price of the car, so not worth it at all IMO
    
    i love lowered saxo's, and always wanted it doing, but its just too expensive.
    
    plus i am prob gonna be gettin rid of the saxo sooner or later... another year or so i think in the build quality is driving me crazy. so if i spent close to £400 on making it lower i would have to keep it for a while more to get my cash out of it, and then i would end up making a massive loss on resale. i HATE losing cash...
    
    where as spraying a bit of my bumper would cost about £10... so not really the same mate. lol
24. timmythechef Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Abercynon, South Wales Posts: 2511 2008 Audi A3 2.0TDI

    #24 23rd August 2010, 15:52

    350, if thats including the kit, its not bad, and is worth it IMO
25. user_36688 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 4179

    #25 23rd August 2010, 16:10

    +1 Go for the Widemouth
26. Newtz07 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR

    #26 23rd August 2010, 16:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by timmythechef 350, if thats including the kit, its not bad, and is worth it IMO

    £220 for the kit...
    
    and up to an endless figure for some1 to fit it...
    
    i cant see the pro's really. yer it looks sweet as fuck. but you lose all ride quality, and in a saxo you start off with zero... so if you minus away from zero... what u left with? lol
27. mischief Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Hampshire Posts: 324 Wicked Red Vtr.

    #27 23rd August 2010, 17:16

    Wide mouth look nice, mirrors the grill nicely.
28. timmythechef Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Abercynon, South Wales Posts: 2511 2008 Audi A3 2.0TDI

    #28 23rd August 2010, 17:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Newtz07 £220 for the kit... and up to an endless figure for some1 to fit it... i cant see the pro's really. yer it looks sweet as fuck. but you lose all ride quality, and in a saxo you start off with zero... so if you minus away from zero... what u left with? lol

    depends who yo get to fit it, and i dont get what your on bout with that?
    
    I got my widemouth done, has to be done professionally IMO, seen to many on here, and you can tell they done it themselves, not a good look
29. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #29 23rd August 2010, 18:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by timmythechef depends who yo get to fit it, and i dont get what your on bout with that? I got my widemouth done, has to be done professionally IMO, seen to many on here, and you can tell they done it themselves, not a good look

    well most people dont cut it out they just paint it like hes talking about which yea imo looks shit either cut the grille out and have a proper widemouth or just leave it and if your only having the car for about a year, you can buy springs for about £60 fit them your self and then get a garage to do your torsion bar which cost me another £60 so thats only £120 to lower it
30. Pomaz Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 249 1.8 astra sri

    #30 23rd August 2010, 18:27

    why dont you just mesh it
31. RachBabyX Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Cheshire Posts: 441 furio ;)

    #31 23rd August 2010, 22:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Newtz07 lowering is gonna cost me about £350... and to be honest i would be sick if i paid that to make my car lower!

    
    that is a shockin price... i bought gmax springs off ebay for 50quid then took it to my local tuning garage and paid 20quid a corner for lowering bargain if you ask me
32. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #32 23rd August 2010, 22:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RachBabyX that is a shockin price... i bought gmax springs off ebay for 50quid then took it to my local tuning garage and paid 20quid a corner for lowering bargain if you ask me

    well hes on about a real suspension kit not just some springs, apex dampers are £220 iirc and my spax springs were £60 and lowering the torsion bar was £60 so it cost me £340, i did only fit springs to start with but then i fitted the dampers rides much better with them
33. Newtz07 Established Member Joined: May 2009 Manchester Posts: 1778 Mk4 Fezzy, Mango Westie, Fezzy Zetec y0!, Saxo VTR

    #33 24th August 2010, 08:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz well hes on about a real suspension kit not just some springs, apex dampers are £220 iirc and my spax springs were £60 and lowering the torsion bar was £60 so it cost me £340, i did only fit springs to start with but then i fitted the dampers rides much better with them

    Yer, i am talking about a full on suspension upgrade.
    
    the thing is, i cant gaurantee i am going to only have the car for another year, you dont know whats round the cornewr, i could lose my job or anything, and i wouldnt want to be chucking some springs on standard stock shocks coz i heard alot of reports that it wont last very long before you have to upgrade... dont want to be on a time line really.
    
    sayin that, i know a guy who has had standard shocks and 40 mm springs on them for about 2 1/2 years with no problem. i suppose its all about how you drive, and i dont thrash my car. so maybe i could look into that.
34. Ashl3y Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Swindon, Wiltshire Posts: 305 Saxo VTR, Corsa SXI

    #34 24th August 2010, 08:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Newtz07 Yer, i am talking about a full on suspension upgrade. the thing is, i cant gaurantee i am going to only have the car for another year, you dont know whats round the cornewr, i could lose my job or anything, and i wouldnt want to be chucking some springs on standard stock shocks coz i heard alot of reports that it wont last very long before you have to upgrade... dont want to be on a time line really. sayin that, i know a guy who has had standard shocks and 40 mm springs on them for about 2 1/2 years with no problem. i suppose its all about how you drive, and i dont thrash my car. so maybe i could look into that.

    My corsa is lowered on standard shocks, i wouldnt recommend it. although it is really low in the arches and sits nicely the ride is pretty uncomfortable plus i went over a bump a little too quick in the dark and it bent my whole tracking contol arm and drivers side shock. So id do it properly
35. user_44263 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2010 Edinburgh Posts: 102 Citroen Saxo Furio.

    #35 24th August 2010, 17:41

    Widemouth ftw..
36. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #36 24th August 2010, 18:40

    i had the 60mm springs on oem shocks for a while they were fine, were still stiff after a good 6 months of me using them, as long as they are in ok condition to start with you can get away with it, dont think the moment you put lowering springs on, it will mess up your shocks
37. user_46290 Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Scotland Posts: 1362 Citroen Saxo MK1

    #37 24th August 2010, 23:00

    Yea i think it looks better before!