Top speed from YOUR saxo (vid from tooobe included)

23rd September 2010, 16:32

i know this gets asked ALOT

But just wondering, and its a completly serious question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7JQF...eature=related

this video i found on tube which im sure everyones seen is a supercharged saxo hitting 160 @7250rpm with a VTR gearbox
Yes i understand a charged saxo will hit alot higher than mine, and it also depends on other mods and sods

my VTR just seems to not have alot of grunt in the upper reaches of the rev range and the most ive seen is 110 (airfield, i dont condone this speed on public highways kids)

no slating please

Olly

23rd September 2010, 16:34

My vtr only went 110ish with vtr box. 5th gear on the R bx dosent have much pull

23rd September 2010, 16:51

As i said yesterday... upto about 90 is great... getting to 100 is difficult... seems to have maxed at 110, but this guys 160?

23rd September 2010, 16:55

VTR box can go to silly speeds like into the 170s iirc??..

Its just a case of having enough horses to get up to these silly speeds.

23rd September 2010, 16:57

No video, at the ring i had the VTS well off the clock. GPS was 134mph Was roughly 6,900rpm was too busy looking at the track, which is about right as the gearbox i had in tops out at around 139mph at 7250rpm.

23rd September 2010, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

VTR box can go to silly speeds like into the 170s iirc??..

Its just a case of having enough horses to get up to these silly speeds.

and areodynamics

23rd September 2010, 16:59

Good link that you may find interesting Oc2:
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=125615

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

and areodynamics

I was waiting for Adsayer to make a comment on the areodynamics lol.

23rd September 2010, 17:00

Aye you just aint got enough power to overcome the resistance.

23rd September 2010, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

Good link that you may find interesting Oc2:
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=125615

I was waiting for Adsayer to make a comment on the areodynamics lol.

Cheers buddy

23rd September 2010, 17:11

if id spent all that money on supercharging my VTR and only got 110mph id be well pissed!!!!! ive got sports centre section, sport back box, plus induction kit and i get 128mph out of mine ( on an airfield) hope your 0-60mph is awsome???? but id still be pissed lol

23rd September 2010, 17:22

Which airfield do you go on mate? I've always wanted to take my GTI on one.

23rd September 2010, 17:25

secret location in suffolk lol

23rd September 2010, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

Which airfield do you go on mate? I've always wanted to take my GTI on one.

You should do a road trip across to Elvington in York for one of the Straightliner events. Thats probably only a hour and half from you or so. Worth a day trip at least.

23rd September 2010, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

Which airfield do you go on mate? I've always wanted to take my GTI on one.

Langar airfield, parachuting school there, go kart race track

place is huge

23rd September 2010, 17:41

Mine is quick to 100mph but after that it stops pulling as strong, had it maxed out at 130mph.

23rd September 2010, 17:51

I've hit 121mph in my mk1 vtr, couldn't get any more than that and it was downhill lol

23rd September 2010, 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradtate

I've hit 121mph in my mk1 vtr, couldn't get any more than that and it was downhill lol

Must of took a fair while to get to that speed! probably had time to mke a cuppa hehehe

23rd September 2010, 18:03

Standard VTR?

must have taken a lifetime

what about the boost heads? what you guys had maxed?

23rd September 2010, 18:10

If your car is finding it hard to pull at 100 or even to hit a puny 110, then your car and yes the engine has not been looked after ither by a previous owner or unfortunetly yourself.

23rd September 2010, 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnr32

Must of took a fair while to get to that speed! probably had time to mke a cuppa hehehe

was down a massive hill! lol its not standard though, straight through exhaust, pipercross enclosed air filter, fully stripped out etc etc lol was fuckin scary though I know that much!

23rd September 2010, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by S18AXO

If your car is finding it hard to pull at 100 or even to hit a puny 110, then your car and yes the engine has not been looked after ither by a previous owner or unfortunetly yourself.

Only had it 6months so im guessing previous owner :/ since ive had it ive changed oil filter, oil, doing cam belt and water pump soon, so basically all ive done (since its my first car) is look after her

23rd September 2010, 18:57

i think my avatar pic says it all lol. actually had it a bit past that on the clocks before

23rd September 2010, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by S18AXO

If your car is finding it hard to pull at 100 or even to hit a puny 110, then your car and yes the engine has not been looked after ither by a previous owner or unfortunetly yourself.

My standard vtr seems to take its time after about 80....but thats only because im comparing to a stage 1 1.8t.

23rd September 2010, 19:28

i've had mine off the clock on a vtr box and held it until it hit 7,000 rpm and then had to brake. haven't got a clue what speed that was. wasn't slow though.

23rd September 2010, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddison_vts

i've had mine off the clock on a vtr box and held it until it hit 7,000 rpm and then had to brake. haven't got a clue what speed that was. wasn't slow though.

Haha, everything just a blur at that point?

Quote:

Originally Posted by scholesyy

i think my avatar pic says it all lol. actually had it a bit past that on the clocks before

Love it!

23rd September 2010, 20:00

127 mph on the speedo on my vts , still accelerating very slowly

23rd September 2010, 20:14

ive had 125mph from mine, there was more left to go but i had to let off

, but not a lot of pull left in the vtr lol, especially after 115mph

23rd September 2010, 20:57

128mph on the sat nav

it was of the clock when the sat nav said 112 which shows how good the speedo's are off

24th September 2010, 00:12

my westy with vts conversion has pretty much maxed the clocks as far as im aware no major engine mods have no video to confirm but have the max speed achieved on sat nav was pretty shockeed

24th September 2010, 00:24

70mph is the fastest i have been

Im not sure how some of you 8v boys are geting higher top speeds than that of a 16v though?

24th September 2010, 00:34

Had mine on the limit of the gearbox, that's about it, about 125 mph?

Slow compared to the motorbikes I used to ride but I've been over 140-150 on one before I started to slow down as doing that on a bend and getting the bike loosing grip is not a nice feeling!

24th September 2010, 00:47

I had 125 on the clocks of the 8v, took AGES to gain speed after about 90 -100. Had 130 on the clocks of the 16v before i bottled it, still pulled like mad, if anything it pulled harder the faster i got (it is cammed though)

Before i get slated this was carried out on a local runway

24th September 2010, 09:25

My old VTR mk2 i hit about 120 or just over then I put the 4-2-1 on it and it went down to about 115mph then it was like 116.....117.....118...... lol! never really botherd with top speed really...
Used to fly to 90 then it was a sturggle then after 90 lol but it to 90 quick!

But I went in my mates VTR mk1 and we hit 130mph... he claims to hit 135 though...

we have video proof of 130 aswell...

24th September 2010, 09:28

with the VTR box in it used to hit 110/115 on the clocks no problem

with the 1.1 box its normally just about 110!

24th September 2010, 09:36

140MPH on the clock in my VTR GTI on a downhill stretch on the M25 early hours of morning LOL
Wasn't that scary tbh but it was stupid....

24th September 2010, 10:06

anything over 120mph feels like the doors and wheels are going to fall off tbh

24th September 2010, 10:26

LOL that was how i lost one of my mirror caps.

24th September 2010, 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

LOL that was how i lost one of my mirror caps.

most common one is VT archs coming off lol

24th September 2010, 10:29

Oh yeah and that one. The bottom door panel is trying to unattach itself from the front of the bumpstrip as well lol

24th September 2010, 10:46

My vts felt pretty solid at speed, much better than the vtr. I spose thats cause its on b8's not crappy apex dampers

24th September 2010, 10:56

B8's are pretty damn amazing though. Still need to get my front wheels aligned. Im scrubbing the outside of my tyres really badly.

24th September 2010, 12:19

Why the hell is everyone saying they maxed out there vtr on the limiter, with a vtr box the limiter is like 150mph, no way is a vtr going to do that.

24th September 2010, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddison_vts

i've had mine off the clock on a vtr box and held it until it hit 7,000 rpm and then had to brake. haven't got a clue what speed that was. wasn't slow though.

assuming you were running standard 15" wheels and profiles it will have been 157.9mph.

there are alot of formulas to work out how much hp you will need to overcome drag etc but i cba to go into it so here is a little bit about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_%28physics%29

24th September 2010, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

anything over 120mph feels like the doors and wheels are going to fall off tbh

first time i hit 120 i lost my drivers arch! its somewhere near brum on the m6

24th September 2010, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

anything over 120mph feels like the doors and wheels are going to fall off tbh

first time i hit 120 i lost my drivers arch! its somewhere near brum on the m6

24th September 2010, 15:18

Mine is doing 135 gps proven on a straight. Not on a video yet.

24th September 2010, 15:30

old vtr went off the clock seriousley far, and didnt take to long to get there either, pulled really hard from 80 to off the clock, shitlower down but it had ph3's in so the power will have been higher in the rev range anyway,

25th September 2010, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oc2

Haha, everything just a blur at that point?

haha, no, not quite. feels a little scary, especially when thoughts cross your mind like, 'what if a wheel bearing or a tyre goes now?' haha, saxo's were just never designed for high speed

25th September 2010, 20:33

^^ What was the vtr box like generally on your car Maddison_vts? Acceleration, general driving etc?

25th September 2010, 23:46

is this true about vtr boxes geared to 150mph but the engine hasnt got the power to get it there? Because i bought a new box from peugeot/citroen part specialist and mine will be at nearly 6k at 125mph

, then again it did seem to pull harder through the gears after i fitted the box so probably a lower ratio, i only drove the car for a week on the old box so never took note of the top speed in each gear .... plus the diff was on it's last legs

25th September 2010, 23:51

117! And it didnt seem to want to go any fasterr! And that s a long fuckong road to get there lol...ive had it on the rollers at work tting the limiter in 5th at 130! But take into concideration no resistance ect!

26th September 2010, 00:09

In my furio, all i have done is indusction kit (k&n) and a powerflow exhaust, i hit 120mph, but really thats 115ish. took about a mile or two from 100 to 120 on the clock. im surprised it really hit that speed as manufacters claim is 121mph but there allways wrong.

28th September 2010, 00:08

i've got my mk2 VTR up to 125mph on a flat with engine around 6200rpm, if anything very slightly uphill. Dual carriage way on way to portsmouth, the long straight before you start going down onto the motorway. i was racing a 1.4 with vtr body, i dicked him but credit due as he kept up till about 115mph. He'd obviously mod'd somewhere, where as mine is bog standard with a RAMAIR filter. That's it! which is why im confused as to why other mk2 owners are struggling to get past 110???! mine has done 88k miles aswell so its not like its in its prime either?

28th September 2010, 12:31

My Rallye got to 130 according to GPS when we were "testing" and then it hit the limiter

dont know what that is on the speedo though as it wasnt working at the time lol

28th September 2010, 13:29

~120ish.

28th September 2010, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oc2

Langar airfield, parachuting school there, go kart race track

place is huge

lol, I literally live 2 roads from there!

28th September 2010, 14:04

my westcoast 123ish in 4th
vtr 130
vts not tried

28th September 2010, 14:43

last few saxo,. (no vid)
vts. off clock
vts track 120+
vts mk2 off clock

vtr 120ish

must state private roads only

28th September 2010, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by scholesyy

i think my avatar pic says it all lol. actually had it a bit past that on the clocks before

looks about 127 mph.

28th September 2010, 15:40

I had my vts off the clock, more than 140mph. Seemed like it was more like 300mph compared to doing the same speeds in the astra vxr I had.
Was scary lol.

28th September 2010, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderz

I had my vts off the clock, more than 140mph. Seemed like it was more like 300mph compared to doing the same speeds in the astra vxr I had.
Was scary lol.

Downhill stretches+saxo vts=big fun LOL

28th September 2010, 16:07

of the clock in vtr vts you fu**ed if it goes wrong

28th September 2010, 16:08

Unless you have it proven by GPS theres not even any point posting here as it will be so far off the ACTUAL figure.

On the clocks, i had my old furio do 118 mph

28th September 2010, 16:41

110 on the clocks

28th September 2010, 17:35

12mph.

28th September 2010, 17:39

got my vtr to round 135

28th September 2010, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

Unless you have it proven by GPS theres not even any point posting here as it will be so far off the ACTUAL figure.

On the clocks, i had my old furio do 118 mph

have got 107 out of the vtr now, verified with GPS

miss higher speeds, but its fun playing with the epic accelleration

28th September 2010, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeboy1989

got my vtr to round 135

A standard VTR is never going to do 135...

28th September 2010, 18:29

With a good enough stretch of downhill road im sure it could..

28th September 2010, 18:40

Yeah probly... if the hill was at this >>> \
\
Angle the whole time LOL

28th September 2010, 19:32

This thread is full of so much bull shit.

Furio 109mph
VTR 116mph
VTR (99+) 120mph
VTS 127mph

There are the official figures thats the speed you get, speedos can be 10+ mph out at them speeds...

28th September 2010, 19:36

137mph mk1 vtr with the vtr box lol with just an exhaust system and filter at the time lol put a 1.1 box on it, 125mph, now got a vts lump with 1.1 gear box, aint toped it out yet, scared lol

28th September 2010, 19:38

also had a 1.4, toped that out at 120mph+

29th September 2010, 15:10

MK 1 VTR - Got to 110 on clocks

29th September 2010, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexvtrmk1

137mph mk1 vtr with the vtr box lol with just an exhaust system and filter at the time lol put a 1.1 box on it, 125mph, now got a vts lump with 1.1 gear box, aint toped it out yet, scared lol

It will be circa 125mph

13th October 2010, 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by baker556

This thread is full of so much bull shit.

Furio 109mph
VTR 116mph
VTR (99+) 120mph
VTS 127mph

There are the official figures thats the speed you get, speedos can be 10+ mph out at them speeds...

Just a bit of fun mate, no need to get your knickers in a twist

13th October 2010, 10:11

my 1.4 gots to 90 no problem and then slowly climbs after that, max ive ever got is 100,didnt try push it anymore.

(his words not mine)on the other had my mate,who has the best and fastest 1.4 on the plant

hit a ton in 3rd,and it was still climbing.(may i add he also had a bald 15stone meathead in the car)

. .some storys are so far out there, there not even laughable.

13th October 2010, 10:37

got my saxo 1.1 upto 100mph the other day, did have a slight downhill to help though but i was proud it. Not bad for a 10y.o

13th October 2010, 11:33

i got 117 (maybe 118 cos its out a bit) on my speedo, on the A1231 (flat road) with standard mid-sect and backbox, but with 4-1 mani and some airfilter. i think i was in 4th

when i get a mid-s and bb ima do it again (when i get my cv boot sorted lol)

13th October 2010, 11:37

115.8mph, 1.1x

13th October 2010, 12:25

im running a VTR box with uprated input and output bearings and quafie and i can do 145mph until it goes off the clock and keeps goin bit more....lol

13th October 2010, 12:48

100 from a vtr isnt good...iv had that out of my 1.1

and it looked like it was gna hit 105.

13th October 2010, 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan_dan_the_saxo_man

100 from a vtr isnt good...iv had that out of my 1.1

and it looked like it was gna hit 105.

keep in mind that all the speedo's are different

13th October 2010, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbee

keep in mind that all the speedo's are different

seems accurate...same speed as what sat nav says

13th October 2010, 12:58

fair enough but everyone else wont be

13th October 2010, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by baker556

This thread is full of so much bull shit.

Furio 109mph
VTR 116mph
VTR (99+) 120mph
VTS 127mph

There are the official figures thats the speed you get, speedos can be 10+ mph out at them speeds...

Speedos maybe out, GPS maybe out.

But knowing what speed your doing in accordance to wheel size and gear ratios and rev's, I doubt it. VTS is capable of going beyond 127mph

13th October 2010, 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

Speedos maybe out, GPS maybe out.

But knowing what speed your doing in accordance to wheel size and gear ratios and rev's, I doubt it. VTS is capable of going beyond 127mph

agreee

13th October 2010, 14:22

Mine will hit 110 but I have to be on about 5 litres of fuel make sure threes nuthin in the car and get a slip stream from another car lol

13th October 2010, 14:36

Me and another Guy in my car, Mk1 VTR when I had it, Induction Kit, and Powerflow Exhaust, got it to 125 on the straight and Flat surfaces of Germanys Autobahn, didn't take forever to get there either...

13th October 2010, 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

A standard VTR is never going to do 135...

I had about 135 in my VTR going down a massive hill for ages. Clock will most probs be out though

My old Golf, 1.8t, will hit 150 easily on the flat

Not tried it in my Cupra as ive grown up and not stupid

13th October 2010, 14:59

Takes about a week to get past 110 in my VTR, so have never gone past that.
Can also pretty much watch the petrol gauge plummet if I take it over 90 anyways. So very very rarely bother trying.

13th October 2010, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary-VTR

Takes about a week to get past 110 in my VTR, so have never gone past that.
Can also pretty much watch the petrol gauge plummet if I take it over 90 anyways. So very very rarely bother trying.

im gonna say no, simply because 75mph is the most economical in a vtr, and 90 is only 15mph on top of this. your lookin at 80+miles per £10er in a vtr at 75mph or 3,500 revs so it wont be that much difference.

id get to the garage and quick

13th October 2010, 18:16

why are some of the top speeds so bad? my 1.0 corsa 3 cylinder eco-shite did 112mph gps. cant beat a bike 169mph does slow down after 120.. only jumps up in 10's instead of 20's

13th October 2010, 18:19

my old vts hit the limiter just after 140 and would bounce back down 4-5mph dunno what my new 1 does

13th October 2010, 22:32

120 from my vtr.

13th October 2010, 22:33

reading some of theres posts n ppl ssayin they get to 90 and the power falls aways iv hit 90 in 3rd soo i dont no whats been done to it to hit that

13th October 2010, 22:45

had my vtr up to 120 a few times but never really pushed it much further tbh pulls ok bearing in mind its a saxo not a fast car. Have to agree with the last post, itl do 90 in third though

13th October 2010, 22:47

i hit 115 in saxo vtr mrk2 but after that car felt like it couldent give anymore.

13th October 2010, 22:54

had a magnex cat back and airfilter on at the time, now wont go much more over 120 as 1.1 box init lol

13th October 2010, 22:56

103mph in my 1.1 - Sat Nav, with a heavy sub in the back. Thing felt like it was about to fall apart

13th October 2010, 23:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lakx3V-K8iQ&NR=1 now thats acceleration and top speed. mines a little quicker than that tho..

13th October 2010, 23:47

iv got a 1.4 westcoast and mine dones 115mph and then stops wont go any quicker.

13th October 2010, 23:52

115 in my 1.4 on hanger straight. Pretty much all she could give

13th October 2010, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf_gsxr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lakx3V-K8iQ&NR=1 now thats acceleration and top speed. mines a little quicker than that tho..

makes me want a bike so bad, 83 in 1st and the way it gets there pwhoar

only a 600 aswell

14th October 2010, 00:49

i had off the clock then lost 5th gear the big nut somehow unscrewed in the gearbox. so duno how fast that was. i then put a 1.1 box on its crap only does about 120 at a push but thats only lasted about 6 months need a new one now.

14th October 2010, 09:35

This thread is just pure LOL...Your standard car will not beat the manufacturers top speed end of, unless you've modified it then theres no way ! how some of you reckon a backbox and air filter will give you 15mph top end is laughable :L

14th October 2010, 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

This thread is just pure LOL...Your standard car will not beat the manufacturers top speed end of, unless you've modified it then theres no way ! how some of you reckon a backbox and air filter will give you 15mph top end is laughable :L

ive always found they cut you short, i know my old vts (when standard, would pull up there quicker once tuned) would go off the clock (to around 144ish as stated by the sat nav) and i know of others that would do around 135-140, explain how this is possible to me then if the top speeds suppose to be 127 or what ever its suppose to be

14th October 2010, 10:40

umm sat nav and the clocks arn't 100% accurate ?? take it down santa pod or a drag stip and they'll give you the propper top speed.

14th October 2010, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

umm sat nav and the clocks arn't 100% accurate ?? take it down santa pod or a drag stip and they'll give you the propper top speed.

over a 1/4 mile a saxo wont hit top speed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

Speedos maybe out, GPS maybe out.

But knowing what speed your doing in accordance to wheel size and gear ratios and rev's, I doubt it. VTS is capable of going beyond 127mph

14th October 2010, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

over a 1/4 mile a saxo wont hit top speed.

With a 1.1 box it will. hehe

14th October 2010, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proffitt

With a 1.1 box it will. hehe

I don't know if your joking there or not lol

EDIT: just seen the white text ha

14th October 2010, 12:28

just dropped the new flux capicitor on mine i am hitting in the about several thound mph

scotty r

14th October 2010, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

I don't know if your joking there or not lol

EDIT: just seen the white text ha

Hahaha

Aren't the 1.1 boxes sh!t? Everyone seems to have them and think they are amazing

14th October 2010, 12:33

If you noticed i did put over a track aswell, why would citroen say it did 127mph if infact it could do 20mph more than that as some people claim ?? end of the day its still a saxo, ffs bmw's are limited to 155, so your honestly telling me that can do 144 when a bmw 330i can only do 155 ?

EDIT: an e36 bmw 328i will only do 145 iirc.. if you people honestly think that your 1.6 16v saxo can do the same speed a 2.8 litre six cylinder with 192 bhp then your crazy..

14th October 2010, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

If you noticed i did put over a track aswell, why would citroen say it did 127mph if infact it could do 20mph more than that as some people claim ?? end of the day its still a saxo, ffs bmw's are limited to 155, so your honestly telling me that can do 144 when a bmw 330i can only do 155 ?

Yes.

Where you get 144 from btw?

EDIT: Found it

14th October 2010, 12:43

ive got mine to 118 on a slight slope

14th October 2010, 12:51

Unless someone can actually PROVE with a picture of a proven method of top speed then i reckon it's all bull and placebo tbh, i could say right now i got my 306 to do 160mph and gps proves it... doesn't mean it happened tho ?

14th October 2010, 13:12

All the figures that have been mentioned are realistic / believable, to an extent.
160 in a 306 is stupid

Pics:

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-Unwin

14th October 2010, 13:24

Hardly, a 500bhp supercharged GTI-6 with a HDI gearbox could probably get 160 mph, with enough power could actually do 200 theoretically.

I'm sorry 144mph in a standard saxo is not believeable.

14th October 2010, 13:29

If you're going at it like that, then a 500bhp Supercharged Saxo VTS will hit 150mph, with enough power could actually to 180mph theoretically

He proberly wasn't going 144, clocks and SatNav will be out. I would say it would be more like 135 - 140mph.

14th October 2010, 13:47

how can a sat nav be wrong when its gps? Also on the 328i it is limited to 155 like most high end german cars. My dad used to have a white on that was mapped with the limiter removed and it was capable of 160+ easy. An m5 is limited to 155. But its a 190-200 mile an hour car.

14th October 2010, 14:58

GPS isn't 100% accurate.. depending on the angle of the satelites and how many of them are changes the speed massively, the faster you go the more inaccurate the clocks/gps will be !

150 mph in a saxo would be hilarious yet ridiculously scary, the body panels would probably start peeling off leaving it looking like a 1.1 flat arch lol

14th October 2010, 15:42

You end up like this:

NOTE: Fisher, this is no way a bad comment to your car. I

you car 4eva.

14th October 2010, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

Unless someone can actually PROVE with a picture of a proven method of top speed then i reckon it's all bull and placebo tbh, i could say right now i got my306 to do 160mph and gps proves it... doesn't mean it happened tho ?

no because instantly we all know that is bullshit.

Who actually said they were doing 144mph anyway?
Iirc on 195/45/15 tyres at 7250rpm with the standard gearbox a VTS will only do 142mph at the limiter.

took longer than normal for someone to come in and start saying your talking shit pics or it didnt happen lol

Am only bantering btw, couldn't really care what top speed people get in there saxo.

Just posting beause am bored

14th October 2010, 16:29

If you want to troll old posts on the SSC there was vid of a bike behind a s/c saxo fitted with a vtr box and it shows 162mph --steady
work out the gearing that is spot on using a vtr box and pulling 7400 in5th gear.
I t may have been removed by now but it was there for a long time.
If you have 250@wheels then 160 is no problem in a saxo+ correct gearing

14th October 2010, 16:37

If it takes 250 @ the wheels for 160 then do you really think 120bhp at the fly is going to produce 144 ? or even 135 ?

14th October 2010, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

If it takes 250 @ the wheels for 160 then do you really think 120bhp at the fly is going to produce 144 ? or even 135 ?

after certain speed you need more power to counter the areodynamic drawbacks.

14th October 2010, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

If it takes 250 @ the wheels for 160 then do you really think 120bhp at the fly is going to produce 144 ? or even 135 ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

after certain speed you need more power to counter the areodynamic drawbacks.

Hense why when you get to the higher speeds your accelaration rate is slower. Take your wheels off jack the car up and you can hit the limiter in 5th after like 20 seconds if thats the sort of life you'd like to lead.

14th October 2010, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

If it takes 250 @ the wheels for 160 then do you really think 120bhp at the fly is going to produce 144 ? or even 135 ?

Yes.

Take the Bugatti for example (shit example compared to a saxo but eh...)
It only needs about 300bhp (out of its 1000bhp) to get to 150mhp BUT to reach its max speed (250mhp) it NEEDS the other 700bhp.

As you get faster....the more mother nature is pulling you back.

Understand?

Im not making them figures up either ^^

EDIT: Was too slow

lol

14th October 2010, 17:05

i understand that but it's only really after 200mph that the air going past the car is physically stronger than the power pushing it forward, you wouldn't need another 100 bhp atw on a saxo to do 16mph more than standard..

14th October 2010, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiDnighTcLuB

i understand that but it's only really after 200mph that the air going past the car is physically stronger than the power pushing it forward, you wouldn't need another 100 bhp atw on a saxo to do 16mph more than standard..

So what would you explanation be for the reason of how easily any engine can hit the limiter in 5th when its jacked up with no wheels, but struggles to go past 120mph on the roads. Not having a go just asking a question to see what you think?

14th October 2010, 17:16

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Originally Posted by Proffitt

Hahaha

Aren't the 1.1 boxes sh!t? Everyone seems to have them and think they are amazing

like a 1.4xsi box accelleration wise. got one on my vtr, great for pulling away, shit after 100

14th October 2010, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by db_sax

So what would you explanation be for the reason of how easily any engine can hit the limiter in 5th when its jacked up with no wheels, but struggles to go past 120mph on the roads. Not having a go just asking a question to see what you think?

Because there is no weight on the wheels and 0% laboring on the engine also 0% friction on the tyres

14th October 2010, 18:40

tbh this thread is just a bit of banter for lads on here no need to get to serious about it but like someone was saying about the new bugatti supersport can do 250mph easy using 990bhp (saw it on a car programme on descovery channel talking to vw/bugatti bosses so is true) so basicly to do the top speed of 268mph which is only 18mph more it needs the rest of the power which is like 310bhp so basicly a vtr say can do 120mph but then for a s/c saxo with vtr box to get 160mph which is only 40 more it needs the extra 150bhp as a saxo isnt saxo a slim line race car more like a edged/slightly curved bar of soap lol anyway my 1.4 furio mk2 has got me to 116mph this was clock 4 different times by 4 different sat navs 2 different models of tomtom and a navman one and some other make all give differnt readings 1. tomtom newest model 115mph 2.bit older tomtom 116mph 3.navman newest one 116mph and 4.the other unknown make 115mph but probs was a couple out anyway so realisticly was 114mph

14th October 2010, 18:47

wind resistance rises with the SQUARE of the speed. This means that 70mph needs nearly DOUBLE the power that 50needs. Since 50 squared is 2500 and 70 squared is 4900 (nearly 5000,which is double).

That's why your fuel is SO much better at 50 than 70mph.

If you want to go 10% fater, then you need 33% more power (roughly) so go figure!!

Andy

14th October 2010, 19:07

^ you see that makes sense. i thought it was around 25% extra power so i wasn't too far out if 33% is your guess

14th October 2010, 19:53

33% more power to go 10% faster is not a *guess* !!!

What it means is that if you take a 120bhp saxo and increase it by 33% to 160bhp then it's top speed will rise from 127mph to 139.7mph.

That's very simple physics really!

Andy

14th October 2010, 21:07

that makes alot of sence

14th October 2010, 22:00

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Originally Posted by luthor1

33% more power to go 10% faster is not a *guess* !!!

What it means is that if you take a 120bhp saxo and increase it by 33% to 160bhp then it's top speed will rise from 127mph to 139.7mph.

That's very simple physics really!

Andy

My man!

Or you can recruit the M25 and a steep hill and a 7800 RPM limit lol ;p

14th October 2010, 22:16

On average the clocks and dials are 10% out, that's why when speeding you are sometimes given a 10% difference as the clocks aren't fully correct. So if citroen say it does 127 and someone else is saying it does 144 144 divided by 10 = 130 with a few modifications = pretty much correct. Citroen and other manufacturers will test cars with a speed calibrated ACCURATE gun.

14th October 2010, 23:01

119 according to my speedo down the dual carriageway.. but thats probably out

14th October 2010, 23:08

158 with gps

14th October 2010, 23:42

Had mine at 125 with more go on it,vtr with a few engine mods but no idea what it would top at.

18th October 2010, 21:37

159 from mine, I think the bodykit spoils the aerodynamics, although the downforce is proper tight!

19th October 2010, 17:07

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Originally Posted by shaun106gti

158 with gps

Good to see you over here Shaun

+1 btw - 158 is my recorded highest too.

19th October 2010, 17:10

i got 161 out of my vts hope for more when i get TB's and so on

19th October 2010, 18:05

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Originally Posted by 3waychina

i got 161 out of my vts hope for more when i get TB's and so on

So with what modifications did you get that figure?

19th October 2010, 18:24

on gps 157 but should be looking for the 175-180 at some point when the sun comes out and after doing a few tests.

19th October 2010, 18:25

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Originally Posted by 3waychina

i got 161 out of my vts hope for more when i get TB's and so on

Were asking MPH, not KPH

19th October 2010, 18:31

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Originally Posted by 3waychina

i got 161 out of my vts hope for more when i get TB's and so on

161 kph = 100.040762 mph

19th October 2010, 18:32

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Originally Posted by chester-lad

161 kph = 100.040762 mph

Bout right for a VTR

22nd October 2010, 13:13

130 racing a corsa red top but got scared and had 2 slow cos back end started twitching and steering really light but wouldnt push it any more

22nd October 2010, 14:02

I've seen the limiter in 5th in 3 of my 16v's. All running gti/vts gearboxes

22nd October 2010, 18:45

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Originally Posted by H-Unwin

On average the clocks and dials are 10% out, that's why when speeding you are sometimes given a 10% difference as the clocks aren't fully correct. So if citroen say it does 127 and someone else is saying it does 144 144 divided by 10 = 130 with a few modifications = pretty much correct. Citroen and other manufacturers will test cars with a speed calibrated ACCURATE gun.

rubbish --when cars are tested by the makerthey do not use the speedo on the car for the test data --not any car maker--they use very special equipment -which very accurate.

22nd October 2010, 18:54

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Originally Posted by chris205

I've seen the limiter in 5th in 3 of my 16v's. All running gti/vts gearboxes

the nthat will be 141mph @7250rpm if std tyre size and gearing--bet that was downhill

22nd October 2010, 19:08

only 70 cause thats the max on britians roads

hahahah as if

around 100mph on sat nav and still pulling in my 1.4 furio with 130k on the clocks but full service history

23rd October 2010, 01:12

110 from my saxo 1.1 but i heard speedos are out by 5 mph

23rd October 2010, 01:43

about 110-115 in a 1.1I lx speedo was nearly off satnav read about 112 was ages ago on the way back from cov lol

23rd October 2010, 19:04

my 1999 Saxo VTR has got a full system supersprint exhaust, but everything else is standard and i have hit 130, i have no idea why, i have loads of mates with saxo's who cant reach that, but mne can

lol

24th October 2010, 02:11

i got a standard 1.4 vsx and have pushed 120 out of it. took for ever to get it there but it did so i was impressed.

25th October 2010, 12:28

135 on the clocks on a xsi box.
In a Citroen Ax

25th October 2010, 17:36

Vts
Vtr Wheels
absolutly slamed on front end
Newmans Ph3
Remaped
4-2-1

Dont know as it hits the pin on the clock lol

25th October 2010, 17:37

spoke to a mate on sunday whos done around 165mph in his 106 gti........

25th October 2010, 17:42

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Originally Posted by dannygti

spoke to a mate on sunday whos done around 165mph in his 106 gti........

duno about that, what spec?

25th October 2010, 17:43

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Originally Posted by SaxSpeed

duno about that, what spec?

i do matey

its around 340bhp with vtr gearbox and 7800 limiter.

25th October 2010, 17:45

340 :o

7th April 2011, 19:46

I got 115 on the sat nav in my ph1 Saxo 1.1 but it was well off the clock

7th April 2011, 20:12

I've seen faster, but this is the only one with proof I have :

7th April 2011, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

after certain speed you need more power to counter the areodynamic drawbacks.

Bugatti veyron needs only 700bhp to get to 200, its the extra 301 that gets the extra 54mph

7th April 2011, 20:24

on a race track obviously ross..

with your new gearing, what will the top speed be?

7th April 2011, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Steve

most common one is VT archs coming off lol

haha that happened to me down link road. couldnt find it after for shit , searched the place loads

8th April 2011, 00:28

about 95mph in my 1.1 L0L

8th April 2011, 00:39

118 in VTR

8th April 2011, 01:01

my vtr on a flat wont go past 116/117 mph. On a good day with barley any fuel and one passenger and wind behind me and slight down hill twice ive got 128 but that was after ages and ages of full out flat throttle, 4-2-1 manifold, powerflow ehxaust, and half stripped small aero work also, but as i say on a flat its pretty shit.

8th April 2011, 01:09

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Originally Posted by RossDagley

I've seen faster, but this is the only one with proof I have :

sorry but wtf am I looking at here?

8th April 2011, 07:49

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Originally Posted by adsayer

sorry but wtf am I looking at here?

Bottom of a curtian where the light is peering in?

Rather fast one at that!

8th April 2011, 09:28

Bottom left of screen shows speed. Other text shows other GPS data. Most of the picture is blanked out as I used a photo that (on another forum) people got the arse that I was "encouraging speeding" by showing the road this was on at the time.

Obviously, if you put the gps location into map software, it'll tell you where I was...

8th April 2011, 09:30

my vtr hit 120 with 3 people in , wouldnt go anymore past tht wunt of thought

8th April 2011, 09:30

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Originally Posted by dannygti

on a race track obviously ross..

with your new gearing, what will the top speed be?

Yeah Danny...

I'm going to vmax this year. I plan to find out

Gearing wise, it's GEARED for very high speeds, but we'll be doing some trial and error style testing on the aerodynamics - once you get above 160/165mph, the aerodynamics (or lack of on a 106) really come into play.

8th April 2011, 10:06

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Originally Posted by wheatley

my vtr hit 120 with 3 people in , wouldnt go anymore past tht wunt of thought

thats just retarded doing stupid speeds with people in your car mate , ive always said this and i belive im right , if your gunna speed/ go to max speed dont do it with any people in the car and when you want to have a good hard drive down the country lanes ect dont do it with a car full of people maybe a passenger but to be honest just keep the speeding and hard fast driving to when your own your own as you see it to much on the news where a kiddie was doing stupid speeds and then crashes and kills all there mates but they have to live with it ( i know from expeirence someone i know has done this and killed 2 of there best mates by being stupid)

8th April 2011, 21:27

Theres a banger track down by me with a lovely long abandoned old road on same property, got my sax to 132 then backed off as either my clutch or gear box makes abit of a racket at the moment for some reason when pulling off so didnt wanna tear its arse out.

I know saxo's speedos are abit iffy at times but i had my mate in his clio sport along side me at around 130 so i can confirm i made 130 atleast.. which isnt bad for a unmodified VTR engine/box all ive done is bung a pipercross induction kit on it ( freebie so why not ) and a straight through exhaust. mani/back box is all standard at moment.

everything else is cosmetic mods. ie wheels/lights ect.

9th April 2011, 09:03

Ive slapped a turbo on my vtr and can only get 128mph, top end, boosting at 6 psi, and thats including alot of other mods, exhaust, induction kit, etc but standard engine internals with regards pistons and rods, so if you can get a standard vtr ish above 120 your doing very well...

9th April 2011, 09:21

clocked my 1.6 xsi
clocked my gti's
clocked the gti6
but the scariest by far is doing 100+ mph in a classic mini!
scarier even than 160+ in a supercharged k20 lotus elise,...................

9th April 2011, 10:51

saxo vts +s/c220@wheels +vtr g/box =165at7300rpm--I would not want to do it on a very low car --imagine what happens if suspension bottoms out at 160mph--and it won,t take much of a dip inthe road to do that at that speed
drag goes up as a square of speed ,thats why you need silly power to get to 200mph +a slippy shaped car

25th April 2011, 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by RossDagley

Yeah Danny...

I'm going to vmax this year. I plan to find out

Gearing wise, it's GEARED for very high speeds, but we'll be doing some trial and error style testing on the aerodynamics - once you get above 160/165mph, the aerodynamics (or lack of on a 106) really come into play.

just spent like 20mins finding the location, and it took me to a field near sutton? aha

(5236.0392N 00147.8072W)
http://www.getlatlon.com/

25th April 2011, 01:07

120mph give or take a bit that was on the clock so about 110-115 actual speed

will get the gps on the go at some point to get the actual speed

2002 vtr with 72,000 on the clock, with bmc cda, standard mapping with cold air feed down to small hole in the lower slam panel, not tired since taking the rear seats out, need to lose the spare wheel as well

all the exterior is standard

25th April 2011, 10:17

my furio get to about 85-90 nicely then after 90 it crawls lol i asume the gearbox is the same. iv only ever got 110mph out of it. but think thats prettty much all i will get from it. str8 through exhaust, k&n filter standard box. not doing any engine mods untill i get a conversion

25th April 2011, 11:31

i can hit the 125 mark in my mk2 vtr

25th April 2011, 11:35

Had mine at 74 on sat nav but it felt pretty unstable so had to back off.

25th April 2011, 11:54

130mph out of a 1.4 box on a vtr and 110mph just shy of redline with a 1.1 box but gets here rather quickly