Welcome to the Track / Motorsport Prep' Forum

1. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

   #1 11th October 2010, 11:28

   Welcome to the Track / Motorsport Prep' discussion forum. This forum has been setup after requests from a number of members to provide a section for more in depth, technical discussion about a range of topics related to motorsport.
   
   To attempt to keep this forum focussed upon serious discussion / debate, a usergroup has been setup to enable the ability to post threads and replies. ALL Saxperience members can view this forum and it's contents, but only members of the joinable usergroup "Track / Motorsport Prep" will be able to post.
   
   If you are interested in talking tech', request acceptance into this usergroup by visiting your "User CP", then selecting "Group Memberships" within the "Networking" tab, then scroll down to the "Track / Motorsport Prep" usergroup and click "join group".
   
   Once your request has been reviewed by the usergroup leader(s) - currently Ross, Ryan & Mochachino, your request will be accepted or denied. Acceptance will be based upon your previous contributions to the community.
   
   Any suggestions of how to improve this section, please let me know!
   
   Enjoy...

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2. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #2 11th October 2010, 16:49

   Glad to see a section has been created at last
3. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #3 11th October 2010, 16:55

   Lets get some pics up of the saxp track cars!
4. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #4 11th October 2010, 17:28

   I noticed my spanner and thought er....
   
   Hopefully plenty of members will actively use the community.
   
   I do have a guide somewhere else if i can dig it out with links to trackday organisers/personal experiences
5. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #5 11th October 2010, 18:23

   This section is a good idea, hopefully there should be some good detailed information in here as time passes
   
   
6. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #6 11th October 2010, 19:49

   Just to clarify the poeple im accepting in..
   
   Each member that requests to join I will check their threads made and also the posts made by the user.
   
   The user would have to be fairly active, not members who post in the for sale section selling track parts for months but no contribution to the exsisting Tech sections.
   
   If im unsure on whether you should be accepted il PM you asking you to link me to threads or posts made by you showing you have good motorsport/track knowledge or provoking good discussion suitable for this section.
   
   Also a few members have put their reason as 'making a track car' or 'want to be able to read the threads in this section'. Now anyone can view this section which dosent mean you need to be a member to view it, and also anyone can make or do track days but it dosent mean you have the knowledge or the questions to make good discussion. So im denying these requests.
   
   Also il ask the ones I denie or am unsure about to prove their knowledge/discussion over the next weeks/months and they request again when they think theyre worthy. Every members input would be appreciated.
   
   Obviously it isnt my forum, but have a duty of accepting who can post, so what ive just said is that ok with everyone?
   
   && do you want me to accept any person who owns a track car or does track days or only the ones with the knowledge. As obviously poeple who own a track car or do track days can still ask basic questions which are good enough for the exsisting sections.
   
   A* Essay over. What do poeple think? Only want this to be a successful section!

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7. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #7 11th October 2010, 19:51

   Accept people with interest.
   
   Dont be snobby if a noob wants serious advice they may be perfectly suited to joining in.
   
   Just remove them if they are spammer/cock.

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8. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #8 11th October 2010, 19:53

   This is a really good idea. Glad I got my spanner and can contribute. Shame I'm running far from a track car though I'll get some pics of our carbon formula Renault car up and some of our tuning equipment as well as prototype machinery if propel are interested in the development side of things? Never really been a place for it on here before
9. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #9 11th October 2010, 19:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ryan Accept people with interest. Dont be snobby if a noob wants serious advice they may be perfectly suited to joining in. Just remove them if they are spammer/cock.

   Thats the thing, theres plenty of poeple who are interested in track days and do them, but have basic questions like: "which rear beam mounts to use" i feel this sort of question would be best suited to the other forums.
   
   Also if I do send you a PM asking for links it dosent mean im doubting you altogether, you might be a spamming cunt in gen chat like me, so hard to find the decent queries and posts out of them all.
10. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #10 11th October 2010, 20:01

    Cue the multiple threads in gen chat asking what the spanners for
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 11th October 2010, 20:01

    It shouldnt just be here for people to contirbute but also here as a manual for people to read and be advised.
    
    If you get alot of information here it should be able to be seen by a relative newcomer who wants to be involved (who is a good egg).
    
    lets not forget that people with knowlege of track days passing it on can make it ALOT safer for all when noobs head out for the first time.
    
    Also information here shouldnt be getting raped and sent to other forums mind.

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12. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #12 11th October 2010, 20:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan It shouldnt just be here for people to contirbute but also here as a manual for people to read and be advised. If you get alot of information here it should be able to be seen by a relative newcomer who wants to be involved (who is a good egg). lets not forget that people with knowlege of track days passing it on can make it ALOT safer for all when noobs head out for the first time. Also information here shouldnt be getting raped and sent to other forums mind.

    Ok mate, I wont as strict from now on. I didnt want to seem like the snobby cunt like you previously said, but also didnt want aload of basic stuff in here.
    
    Just had a few PMs of poeple asking if they can view this section and threads without being accepted, and yes you can, anyone can view this, member or not..
13. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #13 11th October 2010, 20:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan Accept people with interest. Dont be snobby if a noob wants serious advice they may be perfectly suited to joining in. Just remove them if they are spammer/cock.

    The above...
    
    Also think we need some really good stickies in here tbh
14. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #14 11th October 2010, 20:10

    Information is what the forum is here for danny.
    
    Accept people genuine, and by that i mean people interested (eg a pm saying yo blud i wantz 2 do sum trak dayz init) as opposed to 'hey there im new just looking to build a new track car and thought the saxo seemed a good base project' obvious which one you will prob have the least problems with.
    
    If its easy to remove people then it doesnt matter to much initially.
    
    Lets not forget that someone with 1million posts on here may not have more knowlege and have good discussion over someone with 10 posts whos done 50 track days in an ex rally spec nova.

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15. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #15 11th October 2010, 20:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan Information is what the forum is here for danny. Accept people genuine, and by that i mean people interested (eg a pm saying yo blud i wantz 2 do sum trak dayz init) as opposed to 'hey there im new just looking to build a new track car and thought the saxo seemed a good base project' obvious which one you will prob have the least problems with. If its easy to remove people then it doesnt matter to much initially.

    Damn it, i was accepting the yo bludz
    
    Ok mate. Request again anybody if you think ive been too stuck up!
16. AdamH Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 South Posts: 3638

    #16 11th October 2010, 20:18

    about time sax-p saw a decent section dedicated to track driving, information and tips...
17. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #17 11th October 2010, 20:19

    I think its going to be easier for you guys to accept/decline people once you've gotten over the sudden influx of new members.
    
    I agree with Ryan, accept anyone that shows geniune interest, if they step out of line it takes two seconds to remove them.
    
    Thanks for setting this up Simo, i look forward to reading the threads once someone dares start one
18. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #18 11th October 2010, 20:21

    i dared lol. foolish or not
19. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #19 11th October 2010, 20:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Paul I think its going to be easier for you guys to accept/decline people once you've gotten over the sudden influx of new members. I agree with Ryan, accept anyone that shows geniune interest, if they step out of line it takes two seconds to remove them. Thanks for setting this up Simo, i look forward to reading the threads once someone dares start one

    Yarrr, will be going by that as a rule in a way. Although anyone can buy or say they are wanting to get into track days, I guess they can prove themselfs within the forum. Some may be accepted and not post at all, some may post bullshit then they can be removed by whoever!
    
    Thanks for clearing that up for me though guys!
20. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #20 11th October 2010, 20:26

    Remember just because someone has a low spec car it may not mean they will be an asset.
    
    CBA with the 'only having the best' saxos bollocks, been there done that before and it allways pissed me off.
    
    And also if anyone does the usual spelling correction crap like general chat, they can be removed for being an annoying fuckwitt.
21. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #21 11th October 2010, 20:27

    I like how you get to accept/decline members, much better No spammers chatting shit.
22. user_35238 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Portishead Posts: 1472 Black R

    #22 11th October 2010, 20:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -R3Fu3LED- I like how you get to accept/decline members, much better No spammers chatting shit.

    Agreed, it's always good to learn more and more about diffrent types of motorsport aswell .
23. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #23 11th October 2010, 20:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan Remember just because someone has a low spec car it may not mean they will be an asset. CBA with the 'only having the best' saxos bollocks, been there done that before and it allways pissed me off. And also if anyone does the usual spelling correction crap like general chat, they can be removed for being an annoying fuckwitt.

    Was that last bit a casual hint to someone? haha
    
    I know what you're saying. Like myself I have no where near even a mid level saxo but without blowing my own trumpet, I think I generate good discussion aswell as some good input on some threads. Comprende what you're saying anyway
    
    I guess threads that can be answered with a one word answer can be left outside of this section unless its track specific such as rules, DB limits etc
24. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

    #24 11th October 2010, 20:38

    Excellent idea!
    
    hopefully some good advice will be dished out in there!
25. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #25 11th October 2010, 20:39

    I'm preparing a nice little aero thread as we speak. Gonna take a while making it interesting though

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26. N80Jamie Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Telford Posts: 1331 EP82 Starlet GT

    #26 11th October 2010, 20:49

    Was thinking about going euro.. Changed my mind, going to slag the sax! This section should be very helpful!
27. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #27 11th October 2010, 20:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR I'm preparing a nice little aero thread as we speak. Gonna take a while making it interesting though

    Will look forward to that - aero is something that I'm interested in but don't know a huge lot about.
28. Reechard Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Cirencester Posts: 2286 2x Mazda Mx5s, Volvo s80, Citroen DS4

    #28 11th October 2010, 21:28

    I will do my best to contribute. I obviously dont have as much knowledge as many on here but anything I can be of assistance on I will.
    
    Would track orientated guides be useful in this section? Like battery relocation, or has this been covered elsewhere on the forum?
    Just thinking things like that might be good to have in here.
29. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #29 11th October 2010, 21:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR I'm preparing a nice little aero thread as we speak. Gonna take a while making it interesting though

    Are you studying fluid dynamics then? Aero has allways been something ive enjoyed reading about.
30. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #30 11th October 2010, 21:34

    I am dabbling in cfd outside of the curriculum. It's mainly covered in the next 2 years. I just read up about it, articles, am getting alright at cad now. Just wan't to get to use the cfd more.
31. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #31 11th October 2010, 21:38

    Fair play, i used to enjoy reading bits here and there. Main reason why F1 was so interesting for me was due to the design and aerogrip.
    
    That and the imfamous williams with active suspension etc...
32. Graemep Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2004 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 11649 FN2 Civic Type-R

    #32 11th October 2010, 21:50

    about time somthing like this was added simo
    
    system set up should work well aswell, as said if anyone is a NooB only takes 3 clicks to remove
    
    Ry we going see more of your car in here then?
33. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #33 11th October 2010, 22:03

    G' will see more of it when its fixed.
    
    Last couple of months finally wanted it running again but not yet been able to sort the company I want to get it working again.
    
    Got more bits for it than ever now lol
34. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

    #34 11th October 2010, 22:22

    Db - thanks for your input so far!
    
    Do NOT be afraid to deny members. The whole point of this forum was to cut down spam and bollocks, which has crept into other forums. I dont wish for this to be awash with photos and such either.
    
    There's been a lot of talk in here about people attending track days. I didnt see the primary focus as discussing attending track days, more so preparing your car for the track/motorsport... hence the technical slant.
    
    I also agree, if members are accepted to simply collect a spanner, this will be evident and these members should be removed once known. I can see quite a few names already, who I done expect will contribute ANY technical advice in this forum!? Remember, anyone can view, but only accepted members can post.
    
    More usergroup leaders will make this better/easier to control.
35. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

    #35 11th October 2010, 22:36

    I've now setup a 'track chat' sub forum. Please post all non-technical track/motorsport type stuff in there. (if you have to post )
    
    Remember - you asked for a technical-based forum, so you have one. Please keep the main track/motorsport forum based on technical input/queries.
    
    Thanks
    Simo
36. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

    #36 11th October 2010, 22:42

    Thank you for creating this Simo will come in very handy for me, will try to do my best and contribute to this section where i can
37. benkelsall Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Europe Posts: 1611

    #37 11th October 2010, 23:09

    be a good idea maybe to have like a thread with useful links guides ect in. Be easier for people to find them all then
38. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #38 11th October 2010, 23:19

    Firstly, the idea of this section and controlling the posting access to it is excellent
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Simo I also agree, if members are accepted to simply collect a spanner, this will be evident and these members should be removed once known. I can see quite a few names already, who I done expect will contribute ANY technical advice in this forum!?

    I'm sure me being in here will be one of those names. I am posting this now just to assure you (and everyone else!) that I am not here for the spanner trophy. I am interested in the track day side of things. I explained this to Danny and he agreed.
    
    When I saw you mention you didn't intend for it to be track day talk and purely technical I asked Danny to remove me because I didn't want to get in the way. I do NOT intend to get in the way of any technical help.
    
    When you added the track chat sub forum I re-applied as I am interested in track days and I reckon I would be of some use in that part.
    
    As I said though, I will be keeping out of the technical advice side
39. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #39 11th October 2010, 23:21

    omg, that was quite a sincere post from you Tom
40. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

    #40 11th October 2010, 23:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Viper Firstly, the idea of this section and controlling the posting access to it is excellent I'm sure me being in here will be one of those names. I am posting this now just to assure you (and everyone else!) that I am not here for the spanner trophy. I am interested in the track day side of things. When I saw you mention you didn't intend for it to be track day talk and purely technical I got Danny to remove me. I do NOT intend to get in the way of any technical help. When you added the track day sub forum I re-applied as I am interested in track days and I reckon I would be of some use in that part. As I said though, I will be keeping out of the technical advice side

    To clarify - I never added a track day sub forum - I added a track chat sub forum, so that all of the general bollox (that I and many other tech peeps wont wish to read often) can hide in
    
    I really dont feel there should be a chat sub forum, but until this place finds its feet, it could be handy
41. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #41 11th October 2010, 23:34

    Well when it settles in, if the sub section is removed then I will go with it
42. barrettp Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2003 Liverpool Posts: 11465 Focus

    #42 12th October 2010, 17:52

    Good idea to have a track section for those interested.
    
    Fancy a few track days, but have no plans to create or buy a track beast.
43. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #43 12th October 2010, 20:58

    Half way through section 1 of the aero post.
44. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #44 12th October 2010, 21:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by barrett Good idea to have a track section for those interested. Fancy a few track days, but have no plans to create or buy a track beast.

    Soon enough you will have the reddies to do so DR mike
    
    Can do a track car for £500 imo if you want a bit of 8v fun.