Important! : car still wont start please helpp.

1. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

   #1 20th November 2010, 20:48

   My vtr normaly starts everytime but after washing her this morning something has gone wrong and she wont start.
   the battery is fine as the dash lights work and so does everything else eletrical.
   it does try and turn over but doesnt start i have tried to bump start her and use jump leads but neither made her start.
   
   could anyone helppp?
2. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

   #2 20th November 2010, 20:50

   does it try to start? any movement or noise?
   
   did you get water in the air inlet?
3. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

   #3 20th November 2010, 20:54

   yeah it does try start there is a click but doesnt do anymore, a tiny bit could of got into my cold air intake?
4. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

   #4 20th November 2010, 20:55

   wet/blown fuse. check the filter to see if its damp.
5. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

   #5 20th November 2010, 20:58

   i have checked the filter and it seems dry, im not sure about a fuse how would i be able to check?
6. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

   #6 20th November 2010, 21:01

   there are fuses under the bonnet infront of the passenger side suspension strut. possible wet area, failing that could be wet plug... have a look about n see if you can see any exposed plugs or electrics which may get wet easy
7. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

   #7 20th November 2010, 21:05

   ive had a look around and as far as i can see there arnt any wet patches, the problem happened as i have bonnet spacers at the back to higher it to stop the engine overheating and normaly id put a few towels to stop water going in but as i was in a rush i forgot so all the hose water off the windowscreen went under the bonnet?
   
   i have used a towel to dry up as much under the bonnet as posible but still wont start?
8. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

   #8 20th November 2010, 21:06

   what it do when you try to start it?
9. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

   #9 20th November 2010, 21:08

   all the lights of the dash light up as normal and the engine clicks but wont start?
   
   i originaly thought the imobliser was on
10. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

    #10 20th November 2010, 21:10

    clicks.......... may be starter motor then, anything else i would think it would start but not runn well. that would be in the right area to get wet from hose spray to i think. check the fuses under the dash to, i would have thought anything which got wet would just blow a fuse
11. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

    #11 20th November 2010, 21:12

    yeah i will check the fuses now, is there anyway i can tell there blown without replacing them all?
12. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

    #12 20th November 2010, 21:14

    every time i try start her the engine managment light, oil light and fuel light come on? i have half a tank of fuel?
13. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #13 20th November 2010, 21:21

    Will more than likely be starter motor mate, sounds like the solenoid is firing the bendix out but it isnt spinning when it hits the flywheel, get a mate to sit in the car with it in neutral, and get a hammer or other hitting tool and tap the starter whilst you crank it, should work, just means your starter is playing up
14. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #14 20th November 2010, 21:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexVtrHereford every time i try start her the engine managment light, oil light and fuel light come on? i have half a tank of fuel?

    i think that all the dash illuminations light up until the car is started, which includes the oil light, airbag light, and any ABS and management lights, if these lights remain on with the engine running it indicates a problem, but not until its running
15. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

    #15 20th November 2010, 21:30

    yeah thought the lights did never paid attention to them untill now, alright mate i will give both the idea's a go replacing the fuse and the starter moter bit rediculus it started every time i washed it and now it doesnt start so im guessing it may be a fuse?
16. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

    #16 20th November 2010, 21:43

    ditto hit it with hammer, sounds mad but may need bit un jammin
17. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

    #17 20th November 2010, 22:17

    tried tapping the starter moter isnt that, it there any way i can check if a fuse is blown without replacing them all?
18. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

    #18 20th November 2010, 22:38

    
19. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #19 20th November 2010, 22:39

    what did you wash exactly, did you do the engine bay?
20. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

    #20 20th November 2010, 22:44

    naa i washed the car itself but as you see in the picture above i have a raised bonnet and water had gone in?
21. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #21 20th November 2010, 22:48

    and you have checked all the 30amp fuses under the bonnet? , whenever i test a starter i remove it from the car and hook jump leads to the starter terminals, this makes sure it is firing the pinion out properly and that the gear is spinning
22. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

    #22 20th November 2010, 22:53

    narhh i havent been able to yet pitch black outside, is there anyway i can check the fuse is alright without replacing it?
    
    i dont think its the starter moter because untill i washed it the car was perfect
    
    taken the spacers out now though
23. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #23 20th November 2010, 23:01

    
    
    
    
    Notice how the metal part of the fuse circuit on the orange fuse has melted, when this melts the circuit is cut off as the fuse completes the circuit. yellow is a good fuse and the orange represents a blown fuse, using these you can visually check fuses if you dont have a test light

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24. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

    #24 20th November 2010, 23:07

    chears man thats ace il have a look in the morning man if it works il tell you
25. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #25 20th November 2010, 23:09

    no problem
26. islander1985 L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 75

    #26 20th November 2010, 23:37

    this may help you, http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...se+box+diagram
27. user_48655 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 hereford Posts: 173 citroen saxo vtr.

    #27 21st November 2010, 18:20

    i tried the fuses today and none of them have blown
    have you got any more ideas?
    it costs like £50 for a macanic callout so dont really fancy it