Important! : Left indicator - clicking rapidly

29th January 2011, 19:36

Hey, I just bought a second hand 2000 saxo sx 1.1 today, to find out that the left indicator SOMETIMES works but 1 out of 5 times, it speeds up the "clicking" sound you get from the indicator functioning, i have checked the indicator itself from the outside but this fails to work, only the osund and the little light inside the car works.

Any suggestions?

(Note- Full blown newbie here - car talk goes wayyy over my head!)

Thank You!

29th January 2011, 19:42

only the **SOUND** and the little light inside the car works.

29th January 2011, 19:44

ive had the same problem a few times and it was the stalk that needed replacing

jim

29th January 2011, 19:46

Hmm okay, is a stalk cheap to buy and easy to replace? Could a newbie do the job?

Thanks alot.

29th January 2011, 19:46

Normal clicking means light is flashing properly and the fast clicks is a warning for the indicator not flashing at all..

Have you checked the wires ?

29th January 2011, 19:48

Ohhh okay, well if this is a warning then it needs to be fixed because it seems to be if i push it down half way, it works okay but if i push it down all the way 1 out of 5 times it does not work. No have not checked the wiring because I dont know what im looking for.

newbiee

29th January 2011, 19:48

try the bulb or the relay

29th January 2011, 19:51

I think bulb is fine due to the fact it does work most times, maybe the relay just need to learn HOW to check for these things, haha. Never checked a car in my life!

29th January 2011, 19:53

Take the old bulb out put it back in again may just be loose,also check the condition of the old bulb if its cloudy/dirty then replac with a new bulb.

Steve.

29th January 2011, 19:56

next time you indicate and you get the fast ticking noise try giving the stalk a gentle touch, just move it about a milimetre and see if it starts working properly.

you can get stalks quite cheap of ebay, ive managed to change mine a couple of times, its not that hard, but you do need to take the airbag and steering wheel off

29th January 2011, 20:20

Hey thanks for replying guys. Too be honest I hope it is just the bubl but by what steve has just said it sounds like the stalk, because a gentle touch does do the trick usually. Il try the bulb tomorow if not, il buy a stalk and try refit myself.. would youtube be the best bet then for a how to on this kind of thing?

29th January 2011, 20:37

When its clicking fast have a look outside and see if one of the bulbs arnt working. When one bulb goes or its a bad connection, it clicks faster because the resistance to the circuit through one bulb [and the side repeater] is less then through two bulbs, and the capacitor charges quicker.

You dont need to remove the steering wheel in order to fit a stalk, just take the steering column covers off and twat any silly pieces of plastic with a screwdriver, which are in the way of removal/fitment

29th January 2011, 20:40

have a read thro this thread

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99392

shud help, i would say when your taking off the steering wheel, mark or scratch a line on it so you can line it up properly when your putting all back together, you will see wot i mean when you do it

jim

29th January 2011, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railroader

When its clicking fast have a look outside and see if one of the bulbs arnt working. When one bulb goes or its a bad connection, it clicks faster because the resistance to the circuit through one bulb [and the side repeater] is less then through two bulbs, and the capacitor charges quicker.

You dont need to remove the steering wheel in order to fit a stalk, just take the steering column covers off and twat any silly pieces of plastic with a screwdriver, which are in the way of removal/fitment

id still take the wheel off.

29th January 2011, 20:44

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Originally Posted by bfc2dabone

id still take the wheel off.

Why?

,,,,,,

29th January 2011, 20:48

so i didnt have to knock the shit out of my car to replace a part, it takes about 20 mins to do it properly

29th January 2011, 20:55

not read what anyone else has put so proberbly repeating....
had this problem, it will be either:
new stalk needed where the connection has worn down
or
the relay needs replacing in the fuse box.

29th January 2011, 21:06

Thanks for posting guys, I will have a look tomorow at everything.

Would I have to disconnect the battery if im playing around with the electrics? I dont fancy frying.. haha!

29th January 2011, 21:11

yeah take the positive off the battery about for a 30mins before you start, just to make sure the airbag dont pop in your face

jim

29th January 2011, 21:11

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Originally Posted by bfc2dabone

so i didnt have to knock the shit out of my car to replace a part, it takes about 20 mins to do it properly

Its not knocking the shit out of your car is it? We are talking about tiny little plastic mouldings that don't do anything except hinder the removal and installation of wiper/indicator stalks. The stalks themselves are screwed on with torx screws and the little plastic moudlings, which are bad design, are superflous to anything. Then it is hidden anyway.

If you want to waste your time then go ahead, and it takes more than 20 mins doing it your way.

29th January 2011, 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfc2dabone

yeah take the positive off the battery about for a 30mins before you start, just to make sure the airbag dont pop in your face

jim

You dont have to take the steering wheel off!!

29th January 2011, 21:14

Okay cheers guys, wish me luck for tomorow then. Gotta try fix my stupid flashing air bag sign too! :/

29th January 2011, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railroader

When its clicking fast have a look outside and see if one of the bulbs arnt working. When one bulb goes or its a bad connection, it clicks faster because the resistance to the circuit through one bulb [and the side repeater] is less then through two bulbs, and the capacitor charges quicker.

You dont need to remove the steering wheel in order to fit a stalk, just take the steering column covers off and twat any silly pieces of plastic with a screwdriver, which are in the way of removal/fitment

Yeah do it that way & break the airbag slip ring in the process

Steve

29th January 2011, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railroader

Its not knocking the shit out of your car is it? We are talking about tiny little plastic mouldings that don't do anything except hinder the removal and installation of wiper/indicator stalks. The stalks themselves are screwed on with torx screws and the little plastic moudlings, which are bad design, are superflous to anything. Then it is hidden anyway.

If you want to waste your time then go ahead, and it takes more than 20 mins doing it your way.

if you start twating things with a screw driver you run the risk of damaging the airbag cable ect, if you took your car to a garage to have this repair done, you wud be pissed off if they broke bits of you car to make it fit cos these bits dont matter and it was a bit quicker.... as you say its up to this guy how he decides to carry out this repair, but i would do it properly, it really dosnt take long, 20 mins is about rite after you have disconnected the battery for a bit.

was giving this guy a bit of advise i wasnt after an argument, theres always different ways of doing things, but there is normal a rite way as well

jim

29th January 2011, 21:34

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Originally Posted by mdavies172

Okay cheers guys, wish me luck for tomorow then. Gotta try fix my stupid flashing air bag sign too! :/

good luck mate lol, re the airbag ... check the orange wires under the front seats, give the connection a good push

jim

29th January 2011, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfc2dabone

if you start twating things with a screw driver you run the risk of damaging the airbag cable ect, if you took your car to a garage to have this repair done, you wud be pissed off if they broke bits of you car to make it fit cos these bits dont matter and it was a bit quicker.... as you say its up to this guy how he decides to carry out this repair, but i would do it properly, it really dosnt take long, 20 mins is about rite after you have disconnected the battery for a bit.

was giving this guy a bit of advise i wasnt after an argument, theres always different ways of doing things, but there is normal a rite way as well

jim

You dont risk damaging the airbag cable, otherwise I wouldnt have done it myself. And I am not "twatting things" I "twatted" a single thing which is a thin plastic web and does nothing. You seem to have a bad habit of putting words into peoples mouths.

As for 'mechanics', you might not have noticed that I have discussed them on here many times. And every single time in my whole life that I have taken my car to a garage, or mobile mechaninc, they have cocked it up- every single time yet I still have to pay for it. Useless fuckers.

29th January 2011, 22:24

i seem to have a habit, go on mate tell me about my habit, i only post on things when i think i can help, if u think it is ok to botch something that is fine, i just have more pride when i work on my car

29th January 2011, 22:27

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Originally Posted by bfc2dabone

i seem to have a habit, go on mate tell me about my habit, i only post on things when i think i can help, if u think it is ok to botch something that is fine, i just have more pride when i work on my car

Hear we go again RR opens his big gob again & out spurts yes you`ve guessed it everybody sh1t

Steve

29th January 2011, 22:29

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Originally Posted by stevo67

Hear we go again RR opens his big gob again & out spurts yes you`ve guessed it everybody sh1t

Steve

has he got a rep for this lol

29th January 2011, 22:37

It is a stalk problem. Mine does it sometimes, when it returns from indicating left it clicks rapidly until you tap it upwards and then it stops. Something about the contacts in the stalk being damaged over time etc.

A new stalk WILL solve this problem! And don't cut corners as mentioned above, do it properly, a second hand one will cost around £10 on ebay.

If you do it, or a garage does it, it makes no odds, but I'm pretty sure stabbing away at your steering column is incorrect.

29th January 2011, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo67

Yeah do it that way & break the airbag slip ring in the process

Steve

No I did it that way and DIDN'T break the airbag slip ring.

29th January 2011, 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfc2dabone

i seem to have a habit, go on mate tell me about my habit, i only post on things when i think i can help, if u think it is ok to botch something that is fine, i just have more pride when i work on my car

I consider surgically removing a piece of bad design ie a little piece of plastic, a job well done and time saving.

What I do consider 'botching' is glueing huge ugly plastic moudlings onto the body of the car, bodykits they call them. They look a mess, add weight a necessitate spray jobs which spoil the car anyhow. Also lowering which also looks a mess, and because they think they know better than Citroen -its not ok with a little piece of plastic but it is ok with major components like springs and torsion bars [commonly spelt tortion bars on here].

And ugly 'Lexus lights' and 'Morrettes' Lolol, dicks. and putting the back lights in a an oven? jeezus. So all this is ok but removing a useless plastic web 4cm long isnt?

29th January 2011, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meto

It is a stalk problem. Mine does it sometimes, when it returns from indicating left it clicks rapidly until you tap it upwards and then it stops. Something about the contacts in the stalk being damaged over time etc.

A new stalk WILL solve this problem! And don't cut corners as mentioned above, do it properly, a second hand one will cost around £10 on ebay.

If you do it, or a garage does it, it makes no odds, but I'm pretty sure stabbing away at your steering column is incorrect.

They are about £3 and you can use point nose pliers instead of a screwdriver then it is not "stabbing away".

Jeezus, you try to help and the hyenas come out.

29th January 2011, 23:14

do you deliberately go out of your way to start arguements? i fail to understand why you bother coming on sax-p if all you feel the need to do is moan and whinge and berate other people, you should really get out and live life, what people choose to do to their own cars is up to them, i have seen many cars that aren't to my taste but,out of respect to peoples cars and themselves,keep my opinions to myself. Maybe you should try it and your opinions and views would be respected rather then ridiculed.

29th January 2011, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railroader

They are about £3 and you can use point nose pliers instead of a screwdriver then it is not "stabbing away".

Jeezus, you try to help and the hyenas come out.

If you can find one for £3 incl postage I would love to see it. If you describe something as "twatting" it, then it just implies you are bodging it, and the way you initially worded it seemed very heavy handed.

All the other thing you mentioned arent fitted to the car by twatting it. Lights and bodykits take a certain amount of patience and pride in what you are doing, something you seem devoid of.

The multi-quote button should be "twatted" in your case as well lulz.

29th January 2011, 23:39

My wiper stalk was £3 posted off here. I like the term to twat, but it doesnt necessarily mean use any more force than is required, nor does it assume that the force is inaccurately applied. You could say that a footballer twatted it in to the back of the net, but it was still done with precision and skill.

29th January 2011, 23:43

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Originally Posted by mandyslover70

do you deliberately go out of your way to start arguements? i fail to understand why you bother coming on sax-p if all you feel the need to do is moan and whinge and berate other people, you should really get out and live life, what people choose to do to their own cars is up to them, i have seen many cars that aren't to my taste but,out of respect to peoples cars and themselves,keep my opinions to myself. Maybe you should try it and your opinions and views would be respected rather then ridiculed.

I was just trying to help the guy just like I try to help many others on here, If you examine the dynamics of the thread you will see that it was others who started to disagree with my suggestion and putting silly argumnets forward, then I am compelled to correct, and so it goes on, sometimes.

About the modifying, that is my honest opinion and I am entitled to express it, if its negative just the same as it is positive.

30th January 2011, 08:23

Wooow, slow down people,, no arguments please! Haha.. Im gonna hopfully try and fix the problem today later on in day light, my guess is im gonna try do it properly because I dont want to run the risk of braking my car even further due to the fact I dont actully know what im doing. Haha.. But thanks for all the post's guys! Keep well...

30th January 2011, 08:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdavies172

Wooow, slow down people,, no arguments please! Haha.. Im gonna hopfully try and fix the problem today later on in day light, my guess is im gonna try do it properly because I dont want to run the risk of braking my car even further due to the fact I dont actully know what im doing. Haha.. But thanks for all the post's guys! Keep well...

go for it mate it will be fine

let us know how you get on

right im off to pick up my son and take him to his tennis lesson in my completely standard untwatted vtr

jim

30th January 2011, 08:42

Thanks mate, and who said sarcasm is the lowest form of intelligence?

17th February 2012, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfc2dabone

yeah take the positive off the battery about for a 30mins before you start, just to make sure the airbag dont pop in your face

jim

You should never take the positive off the battery first if the negative/earth is still connected, what happens when you touch the posi on a panel? Short circuit

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