Important! : Adjusting Brake Bias Valve?? SPRING TOTALLY SLACK..?

1. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

   #1 16th April 2011, 16:36

   Right have been driving the car hard lately and been having a few brown moments on the brakes. Basically hard on the brakes the arse end locks up and steps out. Not fun tbh. I have read Toads thread on the bias valve but there is no pictures of what i need to adjust to stop this.
   
   If anyone can tell me how to adjust the valve & supply pictures of where it is etc it eould be wonderful! I have a vague idea but dont want to go messing with the wrong thing!
   
   Cheers Boys & Girls
2. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #2 16th April 2011, 21:50

   I will get pictures tomoro of it but it is on the passenger side on top of the beam, you will see a 'bolt type object' and a spring so just adjust it then try you're brakesit may be seized and you will need a new one which means the axle needs to be dropped out getfuckingthrottlebodies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

   #3 17th April 2011, 16:40

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   Originally Posted by -shuggles- I will get pictures tomoro of it but it is on the passenger side on top of the beam, you will see a 'bolt type object' and a spring so just adjust it then try you're brakesit may be seized and you will need a new one which means the axle needs to be dropped out getfuckingthrottlebodies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   cheers buddy! would be ace if you could! will have a crack tomorrow sometime!
   
   
   and no. not yet. need a new engine i thinks. getting uber tappety now
4. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #4 17th April 2011, 17:23

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   Originally Posted by jayyoung cheers buddy! would be ace if you could! will have a crack tomorrow sometime! and no. not yet. need a new engine i thinks. getting uber tappety now

   right 2 seconds and I will get a pic for you.... you on fb?
5. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

   #5 17th April 2011, 17:37

   yer buddy off to work in 5 though
6. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #6 17th April 2011, 17:43

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   Originally Posted by jayyoung yer buddy off to work in 5 though

   ok I will post them up on this, hard to see exactly what it looks like but it shows you where it is
7. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #7 17th April 2011, 17:57

   
   
   
   
   there pictures to show you roughly where abouts it is this is my old axle which was on 70k and it was solid I only just broke it trying to take it off lol

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8. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

   #8 18th April 2011, 00:32

   cheers shuggles babe, this may just save my life, cant even drive hard now....arse end goes all over the place with tyre marks and smoke. nearly met a hedge tonight so its getting attacked with WD40 tomorrow.... fingers crosses...
9. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

   #9 19th April 2011, 17:21

   right this scares me big time....Just been under there, and had a look at the spring, and its totally slack and it can move backwards & forwards a good 5mm... so there is no tension in it what so ever. Can anyone advise me what to do? does it need tightening or is it fucked?
10. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #10 19th April 2011, 20:04

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    Originally Posted by jayyoung cheers shuggles babe, this may just save my life, cant even drive hard now....arse end goes all over the place with tyre marks and smoke. nearly met a hedge tonight so its getting attacked with WD40 tomorrow.... fingers crosses...

    ever call me babe again and you most certainly will die a horrible painful death... got that fluffybutton?
    
    

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    Originally Posted by jayyoung right this scares me big time....Just been under there, and had a look at the spring, and its totally slack and it can move backwards & forwards a good 5mm... so there is no tension in it what so ever. Can anyone advise me what to do? does it need tightening or is it fucked?

    sounds wankered
11. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

    #11 19th April 2011, 21:31

    well...the answer to my question is going to be....dont brake as hard got new pads for the rear coming soon so hopefully may sort summit...maybe slack cos the pads are vitually gone... /wishing.
12. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #12 19th April 2011, 22:13

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    Originally Posted by jayyoung well...the answer to my question is going to be....dont brake as hard got new pads for the rear coming soon so hopefully may sort summit...maybe slack cos the pads are vitually gone... /wishing.

    would that not give the rear more braking force? Why not get a cheap set of 266mm brakes for the front to give the front more power?
13. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

    #13 19th April 2011, 22:23

    Just fitted brembo max discs and greenstuff pads to the front...its the back left. As i said the pads need doing anyway, but i am hoping if the pistons get pushed back, then there is maybe tension put back into the spring so i can adjust it. I am wishing big time here...
14. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #14 19th April 2011, 22:40

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    Originally Posted by jayyoung Just fitted brembo max discs and greenstuff pads to the front...its the back left. As i said the pads need doing anyway, but i am hoping if the pistons get pushed back, then there is maybe tension put back into the spring so i can adjust it. I am wishing big time here...

    you never know mate
15. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

    #15 20th April 2011, 02:13

    better than my spring....its not attached, the stud snapped but doesnt cause me any problems
16. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #16 20th April 2011, 21:46

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    Originally Posted by danny-vts better than my spring....its not attached, the stud snapped but doesnt cause me any problems

    jay has no rear interior, my old saxo was like this and it stepped out when you touched the brakes to hard
17. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

    #17 21st April 2011, 00:36

    it makes it more fun to drive I aint gunna lie....but its not safe would rather it be safe tbh.... I will get something sorted and report back! may try buying a new spring from shitroen?
18. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #18 21st April 2011, 18:22

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    Originally Posted by jayyoung it makes it more fun to drive I aint gunna lie....but its not safe would rather it be safe tbh.... I will get something sorted and report back! may try buying a new spring from shitroen?

    you thought about just forking out for some interior braking lines and wilwood bias valve behind the hand brake? I spoke to swampy about it for my car and iirc it is 250ish including the bias valve
19. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

    #19 21st April 2011, 18:23

    I had considered....but thats 250 i just dont have All i really wanna buy for it now is a set of buckets and thats it tbh...
20. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #20 21st April 2011, 18:26

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    Originally Posted by jayyoung I had considered....but thats 250 i just dont have All i really wanna buy for it now is a set of buckets and thats it tbh...

    well swampys interior brake lines ect is getting more popular by the day really and it is ment to be great for getting you're car set up spot on
21. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

    #21 21st April 2011, 18:28

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    Originally Posted by -shuggles- well swampys interior brake lines ect is getting more popular by the day really and it is ment to be great for getting you're car set up spot on

    We shall see then! will have to get more details etc!
22. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #22 21st April 2011, 18:30

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    Originally Posted by jayyoung We shall see then! will have to get more details etc!

    sorry it is 165 without the bias valve.. I asked him for a price for a few bits. I reckon you could have it done for less than 200 tbh
23. The_Car_Guy L-plater Joined: Dec 2011 Bath Posts: 74 Citroen saxo VTR ph2

    #23 5th January 2013, 13:56

    There rubbish these brake compensator's on mine i have adjusted it loads and makes no difference probably broken. However it never locks up the back before the front. I have sheared a bolt that the spring hooks round so have just cable tied it on for now. will it fail an mot if the valve thing inst working properly or if its cable tied like mine is?
24. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #24 5th January 2013, 14:17

    I'd fit a new valve, theres someone selling a new one. Dont forget to invest in new brake lines up the back though, its doubtful they'll come out of the valve
25. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

    #25 6th January 2013, 11:46

    Cool bump. I sold this car 18 months ago...