difference between 1.4 and vtr

29th April 2011, 12:41

i know theres not a huge difference, but soonish i will be getting a vts gear box fitted on my furio as mines starting to go, and i was wondering if i kept my furio engine and put a fast road cam and remap it will it be the same as putting a cam in a vtr remaped?

29th April 2011, 12:44

No it will not be the same as a cammed VTR if thats what you are asking?

VTR mk2 is 25bhp more so even camming a furio, I doubt it will gain that much
Against a Cammed VTR it has no chance

29th April 2011, 12:47

What you want is a 1.1 box tbh.

29th April 2011, 12:56

was told a vts box has better gear ratio and you wont lose the top end like you would on a 1.1 box?

so it will be pointless camming a furio? just thought it would save me putting a vtr engine in my car. because the vtr is only slightly faster than a furio

29th April 2011, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by MangoJake

was told a vts box has better gear ratio and you wont lose the top end like you would on a 1.1 box?

so it will be pointless camming a furio? just thought it would save me putting a vtr engine in my car. because the vtr is only slightly faster than a furio

Don't read 0-60 times for an idea of speed.

But yes, it would be pointless, not costworthy if that makes sense.

29th April 2011, 13:02

so what gearbox should i get then?

29th April 2011, 13:05

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Originally Posted by MangoJake

so what gearbox should i get then?

Depends, are you wanting the cheapest option? One that will cope with later mods/engine changes best? Etc.

29th April 2011, 13:12

well iv looked on ebay and you can pick up vts boxes for around 145 2nd hand. not much dearer than 1.1 boxes. whats the benifits from each box?

29th April 2011, 13:37

Iirc vts box has similar ratios and final drive as a 1.1 box, but stronger diff and a 'sports' cluster so the revs dont drop out of the power when shifting at high revs. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

In order of acceleration to top speed, the standard boxes go: s1 rallye, 1.4 Xsi, 1.1, s2 rallye, 1.6 Xsi, vts, vtr iirc. Again im sure one of the more major members will correct me if ive made a mistake. I cant remember where the diesel box goes but its toward the vtr end (crap)

29th April 2011, 13:45

been searching and everyone seems to have different opinions. the 1.4 box has very short gear ratios from what i can tell driving it. need to get it in 3rd gear to hit 60. without screaming the guts out of it

29th April 2011, 16:39

I have a VTR box in my Furio and you can't really tell much difference from the VTR and the Furio boxes, just slightly slower off the line, after 1st gear it flies though, can pick up a dcent VTR box on the for sale section for around £50-80

29th April 2011, 17:21

Depending on your dont be fooled into thinking all 1.4 boxes are the same, furio, west boxes are basically the same as vtr ones.

Also iirc a vtr wont do 60 in second with a standard rev limit on any box. The 1.4 Xsi box will do 63 at 7.8k iirc

29th April 2011, 19:08

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Originally Posted by wicked-vtr

Also iirc a vtr wont do 60 in second with a standard rev limit on any box.

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=125615

29th April 2011, 19:23

My bad, turns out it will if your on 14s lol

29th April 2011, 23:42

hmmm so a standard vtr box will pull away quicker than a vts box? confusing lol