Exhaust back box. Whats wrong with a cheap universal?

1. stured Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 York-Hull Posts: 222 Saxo VTR MK2

   #1 3rd May 2011, 17:35

   Well basically mine has a few holes (Where the pipes connect to the box itself is ripped) and is full of bits of rust and my old (now replaced) cat. Sounds amazing rattling away like a maraca .
   
   Looking at a new one, and seen a load of 'universal 4 inch tail pipes' for under 30 quid. Im not that much of a chav but im also not realy that bothered (Cant see an expensive back box making any difference to me in the slightest...system maybe but not back box).
   
   So im wondering, why shouldnt i get one or which should i get in order for it to sit right? As 'universal' sounds far too good to be true.
2. DanielT92 Established Member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1092

   #2 3rd May 2011, 17:39

   It's cheap and it's universal. That's what's wrong with it lol. Poor quality materials, and won't fit your recess very well.
3. stured Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 York-Hull Posts: 222 Saxo VTR MK2

   #3 3rd May 2011, 20:28

   Hmm never really thought off materials i suppose, but metal is metal...Im sure there are some 'universal' exhausts that will fit in perfectly/with minor adjustment
4. carlsmith715 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio

   #4 3rd May 2011, 20:35

   if you get it welded to wear you want it then it should fit fine but its the back box that makes the sound and note of the engine and will most likely sound shit
5. Lewis Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Middlesbrough/Coventry Posts: 3808 Megane 225

   #5 3rd May 2011, 20:42

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stured Well basically mine has a few holes (Where the pipes connect to the box itself is ripped) and is full of bits of rust and my old (now replaced) cat. Sounds amazing rattling away like a maraca . Looking at a new one, and seen a load of 'universal 4 inch tail pipes' for under 30 quid. Im not that much of a chav but im also not realy that bothered (Cant see an expensive back box making any difference to me in the slightest...system maybe but not back box). So im wondering, why shouldnt i get one or which should i get in order for it to sit right? As 'universal' sounds far too good to be true.

   There's nothing wrong with it. From experience they actually sound quite good, only major downside is the fitting is a custom jobbie
6. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

   #6 3rd May 2011, 21:39

   Just buy this instead
   
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
   
   Direct fit and stainless steel so wont rust away. Plus its only 3" and wont sound OTT like huge universal ones do, as they usually have no innards.
7. skitts Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Norwich Posts: 746 Saxo Vtr Mk2

   #7 3rd May 2011, 21:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by JoshB Just buy this instead http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT Direct fit and stainless steel so wont rust away. Plus its only 3" and wont sound OTT like huge universal ones do, as they usually have no innards.

   My mate has one of these it pops and bangs all the time gets annoying tbh as mine doesn't do it as much as his
8. stured Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 York-Hull Posts: 222 Saxo VTR MK2

   #8 3rd May 2011, 22:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by JoshB Just buy this instead http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT Direct fit and stainless steel so wont rust away. Plus its only 3" and wont sound OTT like huge universal ones do, as they usually have no innards.

   True but that's 15 quid at 5 days so can expect 50+P&P maybe
9. saxodan1 Newbie Joined: Mar 2011 north london Posts: 28 black x reg citroen vtr,all pretty much standard

   #9 5th May 2011, 21:32

   i got myself a universal 1 mate,cant really knock it for what i paid for it,sounds ok not too loud got a nice deep tone too it,the only problem you will most probably come up against is fitting the thing.be prepared to buy different brackets/clamps etc.
10. f13sta Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 loughborough Posts: 2229 1988 ford fiesta mk2 1.4- 2001 black saxo furio (d

    #10 6th May 2011, 20:27

    DON'T GET A UNIVERSAL BACKBOX !!!! i got one and will never do it again. it fitted fine (welded it at work) sit nice looks awsome HOWEVER sounds fucking terrible its not too bad on tick over or when you apply accelerator slowly but put your foot down when your going up hill for example and it sounds like a wet fart/tracket really horible. will be getting a sportex system most probs, shame as i like the 2.5 slash cut tail pipe
11. Tomm1991 Newbie Joined: May 2011 Wallasey Posts: 3 Citroen Saxo 1.6 vtr, Ford Fiesta (Red Top Engine)

    #11 7th May 2011, 02:39

    Should just wait and buy a propper saxo backbox mate, will make all the difference, and you'll be happy with it, and not annoyed a few months down the line when the noise is driving you mad
12. PIP_GTi Newbie Joined: Apr 2011 Oswestry Posts: 8 Peugeot 106 GTi Nana!:)

    #12 7th May 2011, 05:49

    i had a universal one on my old quiksilver and the problem i had with that (apart from it sounding poo!) is that it was quite a bit heavier than a standard or good quality lightweight exhaust system so ended up falling off!
13. vtrxstickens Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 whitstable, kent Posts: 618 diablo 106 gti

    #13 7th May 2011, 08:16

    You can find plenty of backbox's that are made to fit a saxo at the same price as universal, I would personally I wnt fit perfect universal never does, just anuther word for bodge it on backbox lol
14. user_36879 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Ascot Posts: 4619 Mint 106 rallye, Saxo VTR

    #14 7th May 2011, 13:03

    hmm what isnt wrong with them!
15. jammy855 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 kirkby nottinghamshire Posts: 297 Mk2 vtr & mk2 vts

    #15 7th May 2011, 14:02

    well for the price your paying i cant see the material being brilliant and as for it being universal alot of them need reducer pipes a requires welding and adjusting to fit as i found out haha, i didnt get the angle right on mine when i welded it and it didnt sit right but i suppose if your willing to do the work to fit it ok, but i would recommend spending more and getting a good quality exhaust such as piper or so on, stainless all the way for me hope this helped
16. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #16 7th May 2011, 18:09

    they may be cheap, but the money you save will get spent on fitting it because the centre will need cutting, it will need brackets welded on, more pipes adding to connect the 2. then when you eventually want to replace it you'll have to replace the butchered centre section as well.
    get one designed to fit a saxo and it can be fitted in 5 minutes with no mods.
17. LEWIS1234 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 guisborough Posts: 120 saxo vtr mk2 black

    #17 7th May 2011, 19:17

    bettea of saving for a decent system mate
18. Jayfidz1990 Newbie Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 5

    #18 20th October 2013, 13:09

    To fit a backbox do you need that exhaust gunk stuff?
19. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

    #19 20th October 2013, 13:57

    Bump and a half it gives a better seal mate. Just put some in the inside of the clamp before you tighten it down.
20. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

    #20 20th October 2013, 14:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stured Well basically mine has a few holes (Where the pipes connect to the box itself is ripped) and is full of bits of rust and my old (now replaced) cat. Sounds amazing rattling away like a maraca . Looking at a new one, and seen a load of 'universal 4 inch tail pipes' for under 30 quid. Im not that much of a chav but im also not realy that bothered (Cant see an expensive back box making any difference to me in the slightest...system maybe but not back box). So im wondering, why shouldnt i get one or which should i get in order for it to sit right? As 'universal' sounds far too good to be true.

    If you dont get one specifically for a Saxo, it'll come out at an angle. It'll point upwards and away from the car...
21. Jayfidz1990 Newbie Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 5

    #21 20th October 2013, 14:23

    Cheers lads
    
    
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