MK1 VTS engine in a MK2 saxo

1. stured Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 York-Hull Posts: 222 Saxo VTR MK2

   #1 4th May 2011, 00:06

   Found a mk1 vts donor car, fully working except the chasis is knackered due to scraping, the engine is 30k less than the chasis so not origional either. I was wondering, as id have both cars side by side with all bits from the vts available to swap over (ECU exhaust etc), will the mk1 vts fit into the mk2? Or will i need a load of adaptation? IE mounts?
   
   Anyone done this or got a progress thread also? Not looking for mega performance boost, its just my engine is bugging me with fault after fault! so this seems a cheap fix considering the VTS is a few hundred due to chasis rot.
2. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #2 4th May 2011, 00:07

   depends on year of your mk2
3. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #3 4th May 2011, 07:55

   the only issue will be wiring as the looms wont just plug straight in. the engines a bolt in job though, no fabrication or custom parts required.
4. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

   #4 4th May 2011, 09:15

   This is what I'm doing. Seems you have the old donor car you can swap all the interior loom as well, keep the Mk1 VTS clocks and you have a straight swap.
   
   I forgot to keep my Mk1 interior loom though... so I'm going to need a multimeter and some wiring diagrams
5. saxo2011 Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 10

   #5 4th May 2011, 17:24

   it is a straight swap mate if you live local to me i could give you a hand as i swapped a 106 rallye lump into my mates 1.1 went in no probs
6. carlsmith715 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio

   #6 4th May 2011, 17:27

   im currently putting a mk1 vtr engine into mk2 furio and im struggling to find a loom that fits it and i dont have a haynes manual to help wiring at the moment
7. saxo2011 Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 10

   #7 4th May 2011, 17:29

   yu need the loom from the vtr is it the engine and the loom or have yu got a donor car
8. carlsmith715 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio

   #8 4th May 2011, 17:35

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxo2011 yu need the loom from the vtr is it the engine and the loom or have yu got a donor car

   you talking to me
   if you are then i need the w reg 2000 loom (crossover) just cant find one at the moment
   and no i dont have a doner car just the engine (got mis sold a mk1 engine saying it was a mk2 engine )
9. saxo2011 Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 10

   #9 4th May 2011, 17:48

   ermm have you got any of the loom for the vtr engine
10. carlsmith715 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio

    #10 4th May 2011, 17:50

    i have two mk1 vtr engine looms
11. saxo2011 Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 10

    #11 4th May 2011, 17:57

    the only thing i can think of is sell the engine and looms and buy another vtr engine as its going to complicate the wiring on the swap. here is a thing on ebay for the whole loom engine the lot - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Saxo-V...item3cb787217e or spares and repair mk1 vtr
12. saxo2011 Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 10

    #12 4th May 2011, 17:58

    here is a link to a guy who is selling parts off a mk1 vtr
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/saxo-vtr-break...item23107a64ae
13. carlsmith715 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio

    #13 4th May 2011, 17:59

    cant be arsed selling and buying another one as i already painted and fited it to my car
    i will find a loom soon or just cut on emyself
14. saxo2011 Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 10

    #14 4th May 2011, 18:02

    try the last link it gives a number
15. carlsmith715 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio

    #15 4th May 2011, 18:06

    thanks mate but i have mailed every one on ebay who is breaking 2000 reg saxos
    and most of the looms have sold or they not selling them seperate
16. ch45e L-plater Joined: May 2009 milton keynes Posts: 40 saxo vts scooby wrx

    #16 5th May 2011, 20:05

    pug 1 off do custom looms,i had a eairly mk 2 and had a late mk2 engine fitted only to find out the interior looms had diffrent connecters to the engine loom,it cost me 150 and had everythink working,,or u can just change over all the sensors if u have both engine
17. donnypaul L-plater Joined: May 2010 Goldthorpe Posts: 93 Saxo VTR mk 2

    #17 11th May 2011, 14:28

    ive got a mk1 vts engine, gear box front suspension rear beam loads of parts not sure if loom or ecu is there as its stored 20 miles away car had 89k on when it was sent to the big scrap yard in the sky just for saxos lol all these pas are located in doncaster area if any body intrested best off emailing me as i dont get on here often donnypaul@live.com
    i dont want ebay and scrap yard prices for them so make an offer if intrested.
18. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

    #18 23rd June 2012, 02:24

    I have a vts crossover ecu and loom for sale as I need a mk2 vts loom
19. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #19 23rd June 2012, 15:37

    havent really read all the replies but first of all dump the engine in the car, if the chasis plug doesnt fit you have 2 options, fit the interior loom out of donor car or cut he multi plug off new and old looms then solder on the original plug on to the new loom as said pug1off offer this service and im sure mandyslover could also do this for you depends where in the country you are