How is easy is it to swap to vtr lump

1. tom2008 L-plater Joined: Aug 2009 birmingham Posts: 73 vtr'd saxo furio

   #1 12th May 2011, 22:08

   I'm going to apologise to start with if I seem a bit clueless with this as I have very little mechanical/electrical knowledge I am swapping my furio engine to a vtr one how easy is this swap I will have loom ecu an ov course the engine cheers guys
2. carlsmith715 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio

   #2 12th May 2011, 22:14

   take old one old out put new one in reverse to getting it out and there you go simple to be honest
3. tom2008 L-plater Joined: Aug 2009 birmingham Posts: 73 vtr'd saxo furio

   #3 12th May 2011, 22:17

   My main concern is the ecu and loom any special needs for example unlocking ecu and the ignition also
4. carlsmith715 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio

   #4 12th May 2011, 22:18

   if you have an unlocked ecu then its just plug and play
   but if im correct if its locked then you will need the key and barrel also the transponder box from the car the ecu is from
   
   someone correct if wrong
5. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #5 12th May 2011, 22:18

   find a conversion with the unlocked set up, tbh mate its not worth puttng avtr in a 1.4, either vts it or sell up and buy something beter, it really is a waste of time for the effort
6. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #6 12th May 2011, 22:25

   I wouldn't bother with a vtr lump tbh unless you plan to go boosted of itb'd, either go 16valve or just enjoy the car for what it is
7. tom2008 L-plater Joined: Aug 2009 birmingham Posts: 73 vtr'd saxo furio

   #7 12th May 2011, 22:25

   I'm only going vtr due to my head gasket going and it being cheaper to get a vtr lump then having the head done again, ok will unlock the ecu before it goes in how long roughly should this process take aswell??
8. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #8 12th May 2011, 22:26

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tom2008 I'm only going vtr due to my head gasket going and it being cheaper to get a vtr lump then having the head done again, ok will unlock the ecu before it goes in how long roughly should this process take aswell??

   if you are not completely clueless and keep and eye on how you take it apart then less than a day really
9. tom2008 L-plater Joined: Aug 2009 birmingham Posts: 73 vtr'd saxo furio

   #9 12th May 2011, 22:26

   The plan is after a while to go cams or throttle bodies afta as I'm taking it to cituning for them to work on it
10. tom2008 L-plater Joined: Aug 2009 birmingham Posts: 73 vtr'd saxo furio

    #10 12th May 2011, 22:28

    Cheers buddy I will have to watch what I'm doing and then reverse my process lil
11. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #11 12th May 2011, 22:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tom2008 The plan is after a while to go cams and throttle bodies afta as I'm taking it to cituning for them to work on it

    I would go for both, itb's then mapping will leave you wanting more power so if you add cams after that followed by another mapping session you will spend alot more money.
12. tom2008 L-plater Joined: Aug 2009 birmingham Posts: 73 vtr'd saxo furio

    #12 12th May 2011, 22:34

    What BHP do you thing I'd get using both??
13. carlsmith715 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio

    #13 12th May 2011, 22:36

    depends what cams and what bodies you use every engine is different
14. tom2008 L-plater Joined: Aug 2009 birmingham Posts: 73 vtr'd saxo furio

    #14 12th May 2011, 22:37

    Ok cheers mate
15. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #15 12th May 2011, 23:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tom2008 What BHP do you thing I'd get using both??

    anywhere between 100-140bhp it's a shot in the dark really but itb's sound amazing on 8valves
16. tom2008 L-plater Joined: Aug 2009 birmingham Posts: 73 vtr'd saxo furio

    #16 12th May 2011, 23:37

    Lol cheers mate I've got a set of r1 carb in the garage will those b ok or not
17. carlsmith715 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio

    #17 12th May 2011, 23:43

    you would need custom made parts to fit