itb setup.

  1. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.
    #1
    I've decided I wanna go down the itb route to get more power out of my N/A engine.

    I've looked throught peoples threads but I cant really find a list of what is really needed to put itb's onto a VTS and to get the best benefits out of it.

    Im thinking:

    Cams (708's or ph3's)
    Clio 182 Injectors
    itb's (obviously)
    Re-map To Suit

    But then I get stuck thinking about what else I might need...

    Can anyone shed some light?
  2. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts
    #2
    thats it as well as aftermarket managment e.g. emerald/omex etc
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  3. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts
    #3
    as ur only from reading i have got some 708's for sale soon pm me for details
  4. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bensvts View Post
    thats it as well as aftermarket managment e.g. emerald/omex etc
    cheers bud, after you have put aftermarket management on does this replace the ECU or do you still need a re-map?

    sorry about being a n00b

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bensvts View Post
    as ur only from reading i have got some 708's for sale soon pm me for details
    im not gonna be doing it for a while mate, i just thought i would ask for i can start to accumulate parts over a good few months!
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
    #5
    the standalone ecu replaces the standard ecu.
  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos
    #6
    so it would still need a re-map. its just a better way of doing it.
  7. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygti View Post
    the standalone ecu replaces the standard ecu.
    cheers mate

    atleast i have a rought idea of where to go now
  8. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dunno View Post
    cheers bud, after you have put aftermarket management on does this replace the ECU or do you still need a re-map?

    sorry about being a n00b



    im not gonna be doing it for a while mate, i just thought i would ask for i can start to accumulate parts over a good few months!
    yeah replaces it and u will then need to get it mapped up after but where ever you get the ecu fitted then they will have some where to get it mapped up etc.. think i saw ur sax once in reading after a night out on the lash..

    you go to any meets? iv got a high comp itb'd sax if you wanna look etc before deciding which boddies ur gunna get etc
  9. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jayyoung View Post
    so it would still need a re-map. its just a better way of doing it.
    great now im confused

    so after replacing the standard ecu with an aftermarket one, it would still need a remap?
  10. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bensvts View Post
    yeah replaces it and u will then need to get it mapped up after but where ever you get the ecu fitted then they will have some where to get it mapped up etc.. think i saw ur sax once in reading after a night out on the lash..

    you go to any meets? iv got a high comp itb'd sax if you wanna look etc before deciding which boddies ur gunna get etc
    it would have probably been parked up the near the royal berks hospital, my old man lives near there.

    i spend more time down in southampton as its where its closer to work but i might start heading up to some meets up near reading when im about up that way.

    I'd love to see your itb'd sax, what itbs has it got?
    Im on kamracings website looks at the jenvey kit. any other ones i could look at? bike carbs possibly?
  11. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dunno View Post
    it would have probably been parked up the near the royal berks hospital, my old man lives near there.

    i spend more time down in southampton as its where its closer to work but i might start heading up to some meets up near reading when im about up that way.

    I'd love to see your itb'd sax, what itbs has it got?
    Im on kamracings website looks at the jenvey kit. any other ones i could look at? bike carbs possibly?
    yeah it was about a month ago i was walking out of the town early hours of morning and see a black mk2 go past exhaust, hids etc.. might be yours but dunoo

    iv got AT tb's iv never owned jenveys but more people go for them but i dont think theres nothing wrong with AT powers only a few minimal negatives..
    i wouldnt go for bike carbs not unless you speak to sandy and sort out bike boddies + mani etc

    i would prob recommend jenveys and omex managment even though this isnt what i have got
  12. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dunno View Post
    great now im confused

    so after replacing the standard ecu with an aftermarket one, it would still need a remap?
    yeah you need aftermarket due to fueling etc all being different so cant use standard but then the ecu would need mapping up but people sort out deals on supplying fitting and mapping
  13. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bensvts View Post
    yeah it was about a month ago i was walking out of the town early hours of morning and see a black mk2 go past exhaust, hids etc.. might be yours but dunoo

    iv got AT tb's iv never owned jenveys but more people go for them but i dont think theres nothing wrong with AT powers only a few minimal negatives..
    i wouldnt go for bike carbs not unless you speak to sandy and sort out bike boddies + mani etc

    i would prob recommend jenveys and omex managment even though this isnt what i have got
    could have possibly been but god knows

    I've litterally just stumbled accross the AT power itbs and there a fair bit cheap, like £400 cheaper! (£850ish through gmcmotorsport)

    what management are you running & what kinda power figures are you pushing with your current set up?
  14. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 warrington Posts: 613 mazda demio! saxo! bmw e36 in white!!
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    Originally Posted by dunno View Post
    great now im confused

    so after replacing the standard ecu with an aftermarket one, it would still need a remap?
    sort of.. you get the ecu replacment ( omex or other makes ) and the map is sort of software that you put on via a laptop

    thats the easiest way to explain
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  15. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dunno View Post
    could have possibly been but god knows

    I've litterally just stumbled accross the AT power itbs and there a fair bit cheap, like £400 cheaper! (£850ish through gmcmotorsport)

    what management are you running & what kinda power figures are you pushing with your current set up?

    emerald k6 and its yet to be mapped up as not long fitted engine and running it in should be done in next couple of weeks
  16. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bensvts View Post
    emerald k6 and its yet to be mapped up as not long fitted engine and running it in should be done in next couple of weeks
    ah fair enough, would be good to see what figures its pushing. makes sure you get them up on here!
  17. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dunno View Post
    ah fair enough, would be good to see what figures its pushing. makes sure you get them up on here!
    will do need to get some pics up as well yet to even get one up lol
  18. Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
    #18
    Couldn't you use the Predator ECU with bodies...? It'd save the hassle of having a sus out a new loom.
  19. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dave_P View Post
    Couldn't you use the Predator ECU with bodies...? It'd save the hassle of having a sus out a new loom.
    would make my life easier if you could, considering predator is based in southampton too
  20. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32
    #20
    Yeah you can use the pred with bodies! 3 plug version isn't finished yet though iirc? Guessing yours is a 3 plug if its 2002?
  21. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JRC1 View Post
    Yeah you can use the pred with bodies! 3 plug version isn't finished yet though iirc? Guessing yours is a 3 plug if its 2002?
    ummmm i guess so
  22. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32
    #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dunno View Post
    ummmm i guess so
    Will either be one big plug or 3 plugs going into your ecu
  23. Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JRC1 View Post
    Will either be one big plug or 3 plugs going into your ecu
    Makes sense ha, I'll have a look tomorrow mate