anyone running unmapped ph3 cams

1. dannyboivts Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 20

   #1 29th May 2011, 09:41

   i will have a set of ph3's for my vts i was thinking bout running them unmapped wt sorta power should i see
2. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

   #2 29th May 2011, 11:09

   i have unmapped ph3 cams in my vtr, and thats lumpy idle so i should imagine the vts to be the same.
   
   as for power you defo want to get them timed up and mapped properly, you will have a fair big increase in power then, alongside a 4 branch decent exhaust system. as for unmapped i dunno mate, my car hesitates sometimes with the cam unmapped ;s
3. user_37194 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 rotherham Posts: 1832 Be scirocco, full on 03plate track spec Saxo

   #3 29th May 2011, 11:22

   they add about 10bhp unmapped and about 20 mapped, but you reali need better air filter and manifold aswell.
4. dannyboivts Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 20

   #4 29th May 2011, 14:20

   cheers guys iv gt a raceland 4 branch full 2'' supersprint and bmc cda airfilter with silcon 90 degree elbow
5. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

   #5 29th May 2011, 16:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mark1311 they add about 10bhp unmapped and about 20 mapped, but you reali need better air filter and manifold aswell.

   only 20 bhp on a vts?? thought you got more than that...
6. user_37194 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 rotherham Posts: 1832 Be scirocco, full on 03plate track spec Saxo

   #6 29th May 2011, 18:37

   120 standard, 4/5 from breathing mods. 10 from unmapped cams, 20 from mapped cams on standard ecu, so 145bhp.... and set of bodie in there and shud make 165/170 all give or take pending engines and rr.
7. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #7 29th May 2011, 18:49

   some many different factors, engine wear........ but a good guess on a cammed vts is 140 to 150 about 155 to 160 with bodies.
   
   but not always the case.
8. Oli_K Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 leeds/ponte carlo/rawdon Posts: 2354 vt?

   #8 29th May 2011, 22:52

   I made 147 unmapped...
   But different for different engines
9. dannyboivts Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 20

   #9 30th May 2011, 10:17

   id be happy with 20bhp a nice noticable diffrence
10. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #10 30th May 2011, 10:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oli_K I made 147 unmapped... But different for different engines

    guess that was at chipwizard?

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11. Oli_K Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 leeds/ponte carlo/rawdon Posts: 2354 vt?

    #11 30th May 2011, 11:32

    Lol indeed.
12. Jase125 Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Wiltshire Posts: 1381 Pug 106, Saxo vtr

    #12 30th May 2011, 11:42

    Im running a ph3 in my vtr with alot of head work done it idles lumpy now and again I like it tho i need to get the timing done on it! Then mapped
13. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

    #13 30th May 2011, 12:11

    if your thinking about serious power and bank for your buck, bodies are not the best option, you would be best off leaving the cams standard, and doing a low blow turbo conversion, say 10psi on a decomp, you will be pushing more than 170 on a vts on 10 psi. and it wouldnt cost much more than having a bodie conversion done, with mapped cams, etc.
14. dannyboivts Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 20

    #14 30th May 2011, 23:36

    yh could be cool but i like the idea of bodies on my saxo as its my weekend toy