Wanting more Power

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Staffordshire Posts: 510 Red mk1 Vtr
    #1
    Just bought my Mk1 vtr, i was wondering if you could tell me all the modifications i could do to get as much power out of it as possible, without turbo'ing or supercharging. Thank you! (Y)
  2. Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio
    #2
    cams
    bodies
    decent manifold
    and remap should see good power gains if you dont want to turbo
  3. Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 manchester Posts: 2099 2000 1.6 furio
    #3
    or you could just read here
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=236140
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  4. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Staffordshire Posts: 510 Red mk1 Vtr
    #4
    Thank you (Y)
  5. Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Eastbourne Posts: 2474 Astra van daily Black Saxo VTR 16v'd kent PT51
    #5
    How much have you got to spend?
  6. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Staffordshire Posts: 510 Red mk1 Vtr
    #6
    I dont want to spend stupid amounts of money, but we'll see how much each thing will cost
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi
    #7
    i honestly wouldnt bother, i got a vts engine for near enough the same cost as a vtr cam. then with a cam you need an exhaust, filter, and remap. lots of money when you could just put the 16v in and get the same amount of power straight out.
    what id do is enjoy the car for now, spend money on handling and braking and make the car fun. then if you still want power stick a 16v in, it just seemed a waste to me to spend money on the 8v and even more so if youre chasing n/a power
  8. Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2011 St Austell, Cornwall Posts: 179 Hyosung GT125R
    #8
    I agree with like all of the above, but it does make sense to go for a vts engine then put money into that..plus the 16v has a really nice note to it
  9. Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Scotland Posts: 1191 02 Saxo Vts
    #9
    Maybe he can't afford to insure it with the vts conversion lol

    Maybe just start with breathing mods mate something like the raceland enclosed with a green filter and then maybe a supersprint exhaust system and 4-2-1 manifold .

    Will give a few horses and should sound pretty nice
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Saxovch22 View Post
    Maybe he can't afford to insure it with the vts conversion lol

    Maybe just start with breathing mods mate something like the raceland enclosed with a green filter and then maybe a supersprint exhaust system and 4-2-1 manifold .

    Will give a few horses and should sound pretty nice
    we'll if we're being legit, if vts insurance is out of reach then a vtr with those mods will probably be a similar price
  11. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #11
    Not likely

    My ax with vts conversion third party fire and theft was £800 ish to insure last year

    Ax with vtr and turbo conversion, an extra years Ncb and now fully comp - £600
  12. Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 York-Hull Posts: 222 Saxo VTR MK2
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gareth_R View Post
    Not likely

    My ax with vts conversion third party fire and theft was £800 ish to insure last year

    Ax with vtr and turbo conversion, an extra years Ncb and now fully comp - £600
    Fire and theft/fully comp makes no difference. Fire and theft is 40 quid more expensive for me.

    What power gains were you looking at with the turbo? 10%? did you state that percentage gains? What percent decrease did you get for the first years NCB? Can be anywhere from 5-15% decrease....how many years experience did you have on each car?

    List is endless to be honest but just putting a little point accross .
  13. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #13
    That's fine, the vts was declared at 120 atw with the various mods, vtr declared at 180 atw to allow myself plenty of wiggle room. I was quoted less for third party fire and theft on the vtr but paid extra for fully comp. Ncb was 10%

    With the difference in insurance grouping between vtr and vts, an engine conversion is going to attract a bit more attention than a few engine mods
  14. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #14
    Fit a Rallye engine.

    Ive got one for sale, and it looks the exact same as a VTR engine
  15. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR
    #15
    strip it out
    breathing mods
    266mm brake upgrade
    gmc suspension set up
    poly bush and enjoy the car for what it is
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by -shuggles- View Post
    strip it out
    breathing mods
    266mm brake upgrade
    gmc suspension set up
    poly bush and enjoy the car for what it is
    says the bloke putting ITBs on his R....
  17. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jayyoung View Post
    says the bloke putting ITBs on his R....
    but I can justify doing it when i got the engine,suspension,wheels, axle ect in a clean 106 shell for 400 quid, the vtr for 500 and I sold spare parts and scrapped the shell for 600
  18. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by -shuggles- View Post
    but I can justify doing it when i got the engine,suspension,wheels, axle ect in a clean 106 shell for 400 quid, the vtr for 500 and I sold spare parts and scrapped the shell for 600
    Alright...I will let you off!! Think mine still maybe going ahead....
  19. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jayyoung View Post
    Alright...I will let you off!! Think mine still maybe going ahead....
    that's ok then aw good man, hope you make it an animal