VTR to 1400 conversion.. yep I've wrote it correctly :)

1. c7borg Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Nottingham - UK Posts: 125 Saxo VTR

   #1 8th June 2011, 15:20

   I'm considering converting my VTR to a 1400 mainly to drop me into a lower class for sprinting oh and save a few quid on tax!
   
   Has anyone done this and what would be the best 1400 engine to use?
   
   any help appreciated
2. kistigun Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP

   #2 8th June 2011, 15:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by c7borg I'm considering converting my VTR to a 1400 mainly to drop me into a lower class for sprinting oh and save a few quid on tax! Has anyone done this and what would be the best 1400 engine to use? any help appreciated

   why not go for a 1300 peugeot 106 rallye engine

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3. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

   #3 8th June 2011, 15:31

   +1 to this.
4. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

   #4 8th June 2011, 15:43

   yep rallye engine ftw!
5. prior_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 prior Posts: 149 White saxo vtr mk2

   #5 8th June 2011, 17:59

   =1 rallye enigine all the way
6. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #6 8th June 2011, 19:12

   1400xsi
7. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

   #7 8th June 2011, 19:35

   Hayabusa B-)

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8. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #8 8th June 2011, 22:04

   The 1.4 AX GTI and 1.4 106 XSI are the most powerful out of the 8v 1.4 TU. They are also extremely tunable. Though they look just like the early VTR engines as there essentially the same just with a smaller more and stroke.
   
   The later 3 plug 1.4s are the most economical so if your thinking of low running costs that may be the best. That or the 1.4 diesel but then there much slower then the base model 1ltr petrol that are also very fuel efficient.
9. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #9 8th June 2011, 22:05

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   Originally Posted by tonto_VTR Hayabusa B-)

   lol agree
10. c7borg Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Nottingham - UK Posts: 125 Saxo VTR

    #10 9th June 2011, 15:15

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    Originally Posted by AXracing The 1.4 AX GT and 1.4 106 XSI are the most powerful out of the 8v 1.4 TU. They are also extremely tunable. Though they look just like the early VTR engines as there essentially the same just with a smaller more and stroke. The later 3 plug 1.4s are the most economical so if your thinking of low running costs that may be the best. That or the 1.4 diesel but then there much slower then the base model 1ltr petrol that are also very fuel efficient.

    More performance would be the plan, at least to that of a standard VTR.. I'm guess you can get more? I would like to go down the 1.4AX GT route with bike carbs but I imagine having problems with emissions!
    
    Was there a variant of the 106 XSi engine in the Saxo? I may have problems with my class rules as it needs to have been an option in the Saxo range..
11. c7borg Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Nottingham - UK Posts: 125 Saxo VTR

    #11 9th June 2011, 15:17

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    Originally Posted by AXracing lol agree

    Would love to but that would take me out of road production class altogether.. probably an engine I would choose if I had a kit car
12. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #12 9th June 2011, 16:23

    just pass it off as a westy engine, quite similar to look at, but have you checked the rules on modifying the engine, as you may find yourself in contradiction
13. Gavlaar Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Hereford Posts: 110 Saxo 1.6 VTR Silver.

    #13 9th June 2011, 16:25

    1.3 Rallye! FTW!
14. user_48120 Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Southampton/Reading Posts: 1186 Cars Are For Gays.

    #14 9th June 2011, 16:27

    just buy a rallye
15. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #15 9th June 2011, 18:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by c7borg More performance would be the plan, at least to that of a standard VTR.. I'm guess you can get more? I would like to go down the 1.4AX GT route with bike carbs but I imagine having problems with emissions! Was there a variant of the 106 XSi engine in the Saxo? I may have problems with my class rules as it needs to have been an option in the Saxo range..

    Sorry i should have put AX GTI and not GT. The 1.4 106 XSI and AX GTI are both the 100bhp 1.4 TU engine. None of these where in the Saxo. The Saxo only ever had a pants 1.4 fitted. However many classes would let you run a hybrid of a VTR and 1.4. Then you could pritty much make your self a similar spec. What class are you running in? I know a few people who sneak the later engines in 205s a and get away with it in sprints.
16. 500 Newbie Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 11

    #16 12th June 2011, 07:10

    I'd go for the ally GT engine over the cast GTI one
17. Gareth_R Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS

    #17 12th June 2011, 11:40

    Rules about proving the cc of the engine when changing with the dvla are stricter, to prevent people doing dodgy things to pay less tax
    
    So make sure you get a full receipt with whatever engine you get, which includes engine number, mileage, cc and any other details like what car it came from, reg etc
18. c7borg Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Nottingham - UK Posts: 125 Saxo VTR

    #18 15th June 2011, 12:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gareth_R Rules about proving the cc of the engine when changing with the dvla are stricter, to prevent people doing dodgy things to pay less tax So make sure you get a full receipt with whatever engine you get, which includes engine number, mileage, cc and any other details like what car it came from, reg etc

    Okay.. thanks