Which throttle bodies would be best?

13th June 2011, 23:20

I'm buying another Saxo, VTR or VTS and i'm looking at getting it throttle bodied, which throttle bodies would be the most advisible?
Thanks!

14th June 2011, 06:49

Have a look on kam racing and at speed!

14th June 2011, 10:37

Sandy brown gsxr conversion would be the one for me I rekon

14th June 2011, 17:01

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Originally Posted by wicked-vtr

Sandy brown gsxr conversion would be the one for me I rekon

yeah i was thinking about getting carbs for the rallye but what is that sandy brown thing does he just make the inlet mani?.....Then you just buy your own carbs and get them fitted???

14th June 2011, 17:07

na mate you send him the carbs/ boddies and he goes over them bolts them to the manifold and everything else he does ( Its Magic!! ) then you end up with a full set that's bolt on and play. My mate had the gsxr sandy set up for his 106 was a long wait but well worth it that bloke is seriously the best bloke out there. Nice fella too always willing to talk you through everything.

14th June 2011, 17:21

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Originally Posted by bedford126

na mate you send him the carbs/ boddies and he goes over them bolts them to the manifold and everything else he does ( Its Magic!! ) then you end up with a full set that's bolt on and play. My mate had the gsxr sandy set up for his 106 was a long wait but well worth it that bloke is seriously the best bloke out there. Nice fella too always willing to talk you through everything.

Thanks buddy

I might ask him to do a set for me then!....Do you no how long he takes and how much its cost?

14th June 2011, 17:26

sandys got loads on at the min from what i can gather mate worth dropping him a pm tho and see what he says

14th June 2011, 17:38

Buy some gsxr 1000 k1, k2 or k3 bodies, send them to Colin Satchell.....7 weeks later you have a bolt on set of itb's...total cost of the bodies is like £700.

14th June 2011, 17:53

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Originally Posted by rorz_vts

sandys got loads on at the min from what i can gather mate worth dropping him a pm tho and see what he says

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Originally Posted by J222JRA

Buy some gsxr 1000 k1, k2 or k3 bodies, send them to Colin Satchell.....7 weeks later you have a bolt on set of itb's...total cost of the bodies is like £700.

Thanks people one more thing what do you think are the best carbs?

Vts engine and will have 708 cams?

14th June 2011, 18:53

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Originally Posted by joe333

Thanks people one more thing what do you think are the best carbs?

mate are you wanting carbs or throttle body's? two total different thing's.

some gsxr k1,2,3 boddies (ebay or better a suzuki braker's) with some clio 172/182 injectors will do you fine i think they can feed enough fuel for 2oo ish horse so will suit your aplication fine.

14th June 2011, 19:05

I would avoid trying to fit carbs, there are too many complications with this installation and it's likely to be a money pit unless you're happy to accept mediocre end results. Better to save the money towards bodies.

Ou GSXR kit was designed/developed by me and is made and sold by Colin Satchell. As has been said, is rather more than just a manifold. Kit is £500, plus the bodies, which are usually around £100-150. Lead times are quite long though I'm afraid, due to demand and limited capacity for supply!

14th June 2011, 19:07

Joe I wouldnt bother with carbs, especially if this ia going to be your daily. sure its different but theres a reason for that, why dump a perfectly good fuel injection system for out dated technology. Not saying it cant be done well and make good power but imo boddies are better. The gsxr itb setup will be what I go with if i stay n/a, however its a few months off yet.

Edit: looks like the man himself beat me to it

14th June 2011, 19:13

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Originally Posted by Sandy309

I would avoid trying to fit carbs, there are too many complications with this installation and it's likely to be a money pit unless you're happy to accept mediocre end results. Better to save the money towards bodies.

Ou GSXR kit was designed/developed by me and is made and sold by Colin Satchell. As has been said, is rather more than just a manifold. Kit is £500, plus the bodies, which are usually around £100-150. Lead times are quite long though I'm afraid, due to demand and limited capacity for supply!

Lead time may be long but the quality is awesome and the price is very good.

Mine will be back with me next week.

14th June 2011, 19:19

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Originally Posted by Sandy309

I would avoid trying to fit carbs, there are too many complications with this installation and it's likely to be a money pit unless you're happy to accept mediocre end results. Better to save the money towards bodies.

Ou GSXR kit was designed/developed by me and is made and sold by Colin Satchell. As has been said, is rather more than just a manifold. Kit is £500, plus the bodies, which are usually around £100-150. Lead times are quite long though I'm afraid, due to demand and limited capacity for supply!

sorry to kinda hijack the thread but im interested to find out what kinda gains (bhp/torque) would you see with the GSXR kit?

14th June 2011, 19:43

Any quoting of figures is likely to spark an ugly debate given the inaccuracies of rolling roads, but on the same rollers, you'll generally see similar peak power from most good kits, but ours tend to give 10-15lbft better torque through the mid range. Another important aspect that shoudln't be ignored, is the attention that I've paid to the throttle actuation and injector position, to get crisp part throttle performance and good economy.

14th June 2011, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Sandy309

Any quoting of figures is likely to spark an ugly debate given the inaccuracies of rolling roads, but on the same rollers, you'll generally see similar peak power from most good kits, but ours tend to give 10-15lbft better torque through the mid range. Another important aspect that shoudln't be ignored, is the attention that I've paid to the throttle actuation and injector position, to get crisp part throttle performance and good economy.

haha fair enough, i've only heard good things from your kit and the price is bloody good for the power gains compared to the price of other bodies

14th June 2011, 19:59

The way they change the sound and responsiveness of the engine, the excitement of driving it; is more important to me than £/bhp justification. If it's all about £/bhp, then you've missed the point. But that said, TBs and management make of future modifications more effective and if you choose the right ones, they hardly lose any value over time.

14th June 2011, 21:06

AT power bodies off gmc would be my choice

14th June 2011, 22:44

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Originally Posted by Sandy309

I would avoid trying to fit carbs, there are too many complications with this installation and it's likely to be a money pit unless you're happy to accept mediocre end results. Better to save the money towards bodies.

Ou GSXR kit was designed/developed by me and is made and sold by Colin Satchell. As has been said, is rather more than just a manifold. Kit is £500, plus the bodies, which are usually around £100-150. Lead times are quite long though I'm afraid, due to demand and limited capacity for supply!

ok thanks mate so if had cams with the ecu already maps to the cams would i need to mess about with it again for the boddies? Would i need to mess with the management system?? (Ecu)

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Originally Posted by wicked-vtr

Joe I wouldnt bother with carbs, especially if this ia going to be your daily. sure its different but theres a reason for that, why dump a perfectly good fuel injection system for out dated technology. Not saying it cant be done well and make good power but imo boddies are better. The gsxr itb setup will be what I go with if i stay n/a, however its a few months off yet.

Edit: looks like the man himself beat me to it

Yeah james i guess so make it would be better but its just more money and i just like carbs lol.....like fisher engine with the carbs looks sooo rudee!

14th June 2011, 22:48

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Originally Posted by joe333

ok thanks mate so if had cams with the ecu already maps to the cams would i need to mess about with it again for the boddies? Would i need to mess with the management system?? (Ecu)

Yes for definate.. especially if you are changing injectors

14th June 2011, 22:55

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Originally Posted by Sandy309

The way they change the sound and responsiveness of the engine, the excitement of driving it; is more important to me than £/bhp justification. If it's all about £/bhp, then you've missed the point. But that said, TBs and management make of future modifications more effective and if you choose the right ones, they hardly lose any value over time.

what i said came out the wrong way, i mean for the money compared to other companies which sell itbs its a good price.

i completely agree with you on what your saying, im more for enjoying a car which gives me a buzz now and again but is also something i can use as a daily. chasing silly bhp figures is ok if you have the moolah and dont need a car to get around in