0-100mph saxo vtr vs saxo vts

  1. #1
    was just wondering i knw the vts is quicker to 60 and will be to 100mph but does anybody know how many seconds its quicker to 100mph than the vtr both standard. cheers.
  2. #2
    no one on this site, would dare to go over the speed limit.

    100 mph, what on earth is that type of speed? time travel? are you crazy?!
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  3. #3
    for track days mate
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    Have owned both. Don't know exactly but I'd guestimate around 10 seconds. The VTS is noticeably quicker than the VTR and even upset a mate's S2000 on a few occasions, the VTR didn't....
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  5. #5
    thank you m8 jheeez dont know why tonto_vtr was being soO angry
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    don't think he was being angry, pretty sure he was joking ;-)
  7. #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nadk2010 View Post
    thank you m8 jheeez dont know why tonto_vtr was being soO angry
    fucking LOL

    social banter you tard.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTRGT View Post
    Have owned both. Don't know exactly but I'd guestimate around 10 seconds. The VTS is noticeably quicker than the VTR and even upset a mate's S2000 on a few occasions, the VTR didn't....
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
  9. #9
    oh sorri pal,looool u do get the odd ppl here tho
  10. #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nadk2010 View Post
    oh sorri pal,looool u do get the odd ppl here tho
    im the local cunt.

    dont take anything seriously...unless its in caplocks. then im angry.
  11. #11
    i will remember that pal,lol hay funny cunts are sumtyms gud to hav around
  12. #12
    The VTR is fine in isolation but once you get to around 100mph (on private runways or the Autobahn) they lose interest. The VTS is happy to keep on going though and I even saw 135mph on the Sat Nav once
  13. #13
    right enough is enough im gna sell my vtr to get a vts especially now my insurance is cheap, i thought thr wasnt much of a difference but every1 says vts is sooO much quicker than the vtr..
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTRGT View Post
    The VTR is fine in isolation but once you get to around 100mph (on private runways or the Autobahn) they lose interest. The VTS is happy to keep on going though and I even saw 135mph on the Sat Nav once
    but its still not massively quick... or fast imo.

    people are soo deluded about the performance of a VTS these days
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    tru and it is hard to find one that hasnt been thrashed about i mean thats what they are thr 4... i knw that the vtr has a more reliable engine tho the 8v is gud and less noisy than the 16v
  16. #16
    of course it's not 'massively' quick but for what it is, it keeps up with a lot of supposedly much quicker cars. It's not just the straight line speed, but the fact they are so much lighter than most cars these days, which helps round the corners and under braking too.

    I've had a 280bhp Impreza, a 231bhp Z4 and a Clio 182 yet the VTS never felt much slower than them.

    By the way, my mate's S2000 is quicker but it takes a while for him to get past. Stick a few more mods on the VTS and you'd keep up with a car like that anywhere.
  17. #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTRGT View Post
    of course it's not 'massively' quick but for what it is, it keeps up with a lot of supposedly much quicker cars. It's not just the straight line speed, but the fact they are so much lighter than most cars these days, which helps round the corners and under braking too.

    I've had a 280bhp Impreza, a 231bhp Z4 and a Clio 182 yet the VTS never felt much slower than them.

    By the way, my mate's S2000 is quicker but it takes a while for him to get past. Stick a few more mods on the VTS and you'd keep up with a car like that anywhere.
    youre mate cant drive for shit then, clearly.

    and, the saxo FEELS fast, because of its compact size
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    actually he can... I expect you've never had a race against one or ever driven one so you comment doesn't hold much water.

    Take a VTS to a track and you'll be surprised what it keeps up with...
  19. #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTRGT View Post
    actually he can... I expect you've never had a race against one or ever driven one so you comment doesn't hold much water.

    Take a VTS to a track and you'll be surprised what it keeps up with...
    Second this. Not alot keeps up with my mates VTS tbf, even though it's had alot of work spent on it. Obviously there are much faster cars, but just depends which cars we're talking about!
  20. #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTRGT View Post
    actually he can... I expect you've never had a race against one or ever driven one so you comment doesn't hold much water.

    Take a VTS to a track and you'll be surprised what it keeps up with...
    iv driven more cars than youve had hot dinners. no an s2k isnt fast either, but its still faster than a fucking vts ffs. its a fucking small 1.6 hatch, not a fucking porsche, its not a PERFORMANCE car, what it is with every cunt on this site thinking they are the best thing fucking ever?!

    230 bhp to a vts 120
    1200 kilo to 900 kilo - 300 kilo wont make that much difference to something that can rev twice as hard, and have 110 more ponies.
    a saxo runs out of puff, ALOT sooner than the s2k, that will just keep pulling and pulling to the redline, where the saxo will stop pulling from pretty much pulling away.

    unless your a fat cunt. but you obviously not fat in your super fast saxo...
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  21. #21
    this is my vtr 0-near 100(if id dont get too 100) wasnt full chat, just a little taster

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR View Post
    iv driven more cars than youve had hot dinners. no an s2k isnt fast either, but its still faster than a fucking vts ffs. its a fucking small 1.6 hatch, not a fucking porsche, its not a PERFORMANCE car, what it is with every cunt on this site thinking they are the best thing fucking ever?!

    230 bhp to a vts 120
    1200 kilo to 900 kilo - 300 kilo wont make that much difference to something that can rev twice as hard, and have 110 more ponies.
    a saxo runs out of puff, ALOT sooner than the s2k, that will just keep pulling and pulling to the redline, where the saxo will stop pulling from pretty much pulling away.

    unless your a fat cunt. but you obviously not fat in your super fast saxo...
    tonto your my favourite member today

    so much truth in a single post

    EDIT- fook, my vid fails as the title gives it away a tad
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    tonto your my favourite member today

    so much truth in a single post

    EDIT- fook, my vid fails as the title gives it away a tad
    well, i do try

    ill make a 0-100 video if you like...dont blink, or you'll miss it though lol.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR View Post
    iv driven more cars than youve had hot dinners. no an s2k isnt fast either, but its still faster than a fucking vts ffs. its a fucking small 1.6 hatch, not a fucking porsche, its not a PERFORMANCE car, what it is with every cunt on this site thinking they are the best thing fucking ever?!

    230 bhp to a vts 120
    1200 kilo to 900 kilo - 300 kilo wont make that much difference to something that can rev twice as hard, and have 110 more ponies.
    a saxo runs out of puff, ALOT sooner than the s2k, that will just keep pulling and pulling to the redline, where the saxo will stop pulling from pretty much pulling away.

    unless your a fat cunt. but you obviously not fat in your super fast saxo...
    Here mate, the vts had racing stripes and wind deflectors, so pipe down.
  25. #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cyne View Post
    Here mate, the vts had racing stripes and wind deflectors, so pipe down.
    ahh shit man, sorry. didnt realise it was running stripes aswell as deflectors.
    next he'll be pushing the boundary's of physics and having metal dustcaps...fucking crazy if you ask me!
  26. #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR View Post
    well, i do try

    ill make a 0-100 video if you like...dont blink, or you'll miss it though lol.
    2 wheel power ftw
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    2 wheel power ftw
    0-60: 3.31s
    0-100:6.57s
    0-140:13.17s
    Standing 1/4 mile: 11.07s @ 131.49mph
    Standing mile: 28.63s @ 167.93

    the standings, isnt that impressive*. but once shes up and above the 9/10k RPM limit, she fucking flies!

    *compared to other bikes
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR View Post
    0-60: 3.31s
    0-100:6.57s
    0-140:13.17s
    Standing 1/4 mile: 11.07s @ 131.49mph
    Standing mile: 28.63s @ 167.93

    the standings, isnt that impressive*. but once shes up and above the 9/10k RPM limit, she fucking flies!

    *compared to other bikes
    mates got one, not been on "quick" bikes for a while, took it to 140mph from a standing start, that was quick enough for me, not scared of the speed/acceleration, but when youve not had much play in a while it does take you back just how quick they do get your foot in the coffin


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  29. #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    mates got one, not been on "quick" bikes for a while, took it to 140mph from a standing start, that was quick enough for me, not scared of the speed/acceleration, but when youve not had much play in a while it does take you back just how quick they do get your foot in the coffin
    oh aye!
    its a shame soo many people lack respect for the performance of such small engines! even if they dont like bikes, you cant argue about the immense design of these things!
    i didnt ride mine for 6-7 months when the bad weather kicked in over winter, jumping back on it was abit of a shock tbh! now ive done a few things to her, its just all full blown shits and giggles, 110mph wheelies, and the noise from bouncing off the limiter at 17500Rpm is unbeatable!

    just need to try and up and smoothen out the power curve a tad, and it will be highly impressive.
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  30. #30
    bikes through and through tbh mate, i LOVE cars but bikes are just special, not a feeling ive experienced yet that even comes close to opening up a bike you have feelings for, anyone who loves a car and slates a bike has either never ridden one or is scared of them -FACT
  31. #31
    A standard VTS vs an S2000? I had a play with one in my 182 and its a much quicker car once up in the vtec rpms, so vs a standard vts it'd be no contest
  32. #32
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTRGT View Post
    Have owned both. Don't know exactly but I'd guestimate around 10 seconds.
    why did nobody see this loool
  33. #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pug205 View Post
    why did nobody see this loool
    i seen it, but never thought to dignify it with a response obvious troll is a moron
  34. #34
    Vts is 7 seconds quicker to 100mph than a Vtr

    Vts 22 seconds to 100

    Vtr 29 seconds to 100
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    Hahahahahahahaha
  36. #36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    bikes through and through tbh mate, i LOVE cars but bikes are just special, not a feeling ive experienced yet that even comes close to opening up a bike you have feelings for, anyone who loves a car and slates a bike has either never ridden one or is scared of them -FACT
    be careful what you say on here! all the haters may see, and try to prove you wrong!
    but that is soo true.
    you got / had any yourself?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jonathon5 View Post
    Vts is 7 seconds quicker to 100mph than a Vtr

    Vts 22 seconds to 100

    Vtr 29 seconds to 100
    that is fucking hideous!
    ive just looked at the figure for my Leon its 18.4 . . . that too is terrible.
    cars are soo boring.
  37. #37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nadk2010 View Post
    tru and it is hard to find one that hasnt been thrashed about i mean thats what they are thr 4... i knw that the vtr has a more reliable engine tho the 8v is gud and less noisy than the 16v
    I think you got that the wrong way round lol
  38. #38
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR View Post

    that is fucking hideous!
    ive just looked at the figure for my Leon its 18.4 . . . that too is terrible.
    cars are soo boring.
    You're boring mate, but at least you acknowledge the fact you're a cunt. If you can't appreciate Saxos for what they are, you should fuck off to a Seat or bike forum instead
  39. #39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTRGT View Post
    You're boring mate, but at least you acknowledge the fact you're a cunt. If you can't appreciate Saxos for what they are, you should fuck off to a Seat or bike forum instead
    to right, people on here think vts are the best because this is A SAXO FORUM & what saxo is faster than a vts ?
  40. #40
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTRGT View Post
    You're boring mate, but at least you acknowledge the fact you're a cunt. If you can't appreciate Saxos for what they are, you should fuck off to a Seat or bike forum instead
    Lol....he has a car that is quicker than a saxo, and a bike that will hit 100 quicker than you can put your car in gear.
    Saxo's aint quick, they are nippy at best, handle ok and make decent track toys for little money.
    Unfortunatly thats about it.

    Lad above, yes this is a saxo forum, but alot of members have been on here for a good few years and moved on to bigger and better things.
    The vts is the top model yes, but its by no means the 'dogs bollocks'.
  41. #41
    saxos are shit
  42. #42
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by quikydan View Post
    saxos are shit
    correct me if im wrong, isnt this a Saxo website?
  43. #43
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SAM-S44MDS- View Post
    L
    Saxo's aint quick, they are nippy at best, handle ok and make decent track toys for little money.
    Unfortunatly thats about it.
    this. People on here should try driving a fast car, they'd change their tune about saxos afterwards. They're fun to drive up until 100 mph. Beyond that nothing special.
  44. #44
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Delboy View Post
    correct me if im wrong, isnt this a Saxo website?
    clever one you are
  45. #45
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by quikydan View Post
    clever one you are
    thankyou
  46. #46
    if your moving to a faster car move to a faster car forum. people here love saxos and thats what this is all about.
  47. #47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR View Post
    youre mate cant drive for shit then, clearly.

    and, the saxo FEELS fast, because of its compact size
    can only add a big ol' +1 to this lol

    good driver in both. s2k will shit on a saxo.

    and looks cooler than the saxo whilst doing it too.

    and a Z4 not feeling as quick as a saxo with 321bhp? are you crazy? went to the ring last year in a z3m (same engine) and it was el rapido. far quicker than any saxo i've owned / been in.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by matteon View Post
    if your moving to a faster car move to a faster car forum. people here love saxos and thats what this is all about.
    saxos are great cars for the money. i've loved all of my french tins. but that doesn't justify pure delusion from a lot of members on here that seem to think that theyre the best handling car, and can surpass many bigger powered cars on track. Don't get me wrong, a saxo with just decent tyres brakes and suspension can keep up with a lot of cars, but a lot of it comes down to how easy the saxo is to drive quickly in comparison to a big powered rwd car.
  48. #48
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SAM-S44MDS- View Post
    Lol....he has a car that is quicker than a saxo, and a bike that will hit 100 quicker than you can put your car in gear.
    Saxo's aint quick, they are nippy at best, handle ok and make decent track toys for little money.
    Unfortunatly thats about it.

    Lad above, yes this is a saxo forum, but alot of members have been on here for a good few years and moved on to bigger and better things.
    The vts is the top model yes, but its by no means the 'dogs bollocks'.
    - Who cares what he drives/rides. I've been on quicker rollercoasters than his bike but I don't go on bike forums slagging off their performance...

    - How do you define quick, everyone has different ideas about what's quick and what isn't? 0-60 in just over 7 seconds is quicker than average...

    - I didn't say it was the dogs bollocks. Just that it's impressive for what it is, i.e. a cheap, small engined hatchback.


    It's amazing how many people slag off Saxos on a Saxo forum...
  49. #49
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashleyp View Post
    can only add a big ol' +1 to this lol

    good driver in both. s2k will shit on a saxo.

    and looks cooler than the saxo whilst doing it too.

    and a Z4 not feeling as quick as a saxo with 321bhp? are you crazy? went to the ring last year in a z3m (same engine) and it was el rapido. far quicker than any saxo i've owned / been in.
    Read my post again
  50. #50
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTRGT View Post
    Read my post again
    what have a missed?
  51. #51
    you've got the bhp wrong. 231bhp < 321bhp.

    http://www.dyslexiaaction.org.uk/ : should help
  52. #52
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTRGT View Post
    you've got the bhp wrong. 231bhp < 321bhp.

    http://www.dyslexiaaction.org.uk/ : should help
    lol... I can assure you i don't have dyslexia.

    Regardless; 231bhp is still virtually double the saxos power. and the z4 will enventually eat it (especially on a track) with ease.

    Standard for standard, a Z4 will be lapping the ring for example nearly a minute quicker with equal ability drivers.

    Driver difference plays such a massive part. Saxo's are easy to drive quick and look like a hero. the same can't be said for a bigger rwd car for example. something else is that is over looked is smoothness of the drive, a VTS is very peaky, theyre useless as a 'quick' car below 4k revs, and thus feel quick above it. My current car is running 230bhp with similar torque figures, and although it weighs over 300kg more than my VTS, i know the latter isn't anywhere near as quick....

    Either way. i know i'd rather not sit in a french tin when i could have the option of a better built car, with mod cons, quicker and smoother to drive.
  53. #53
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashleyp View Post
    lol... I can assure you i don't have dyslexia.

    Regardless; 231bhp is still virtually double the saxos power. and the z4 will enventually eat it (especially on a track) with ease.

    Standard for standard, a Z4 will be lapping the ring for example nearly a minute quicker with equal ability drivers.

    Driver difference plays such a massive part. Saxo's are easy to drive quick and look like a hero. the same can't be said for a bigger rwd car for example. something else is that is over looked is smoothness of the drive, a VTS is very peaky, theyre useless as a 'quick' car below 4k revs, and thus feel quick above it. My current car is running 230bhp with similar torque figures, and although it weighs over 300kg more than my VTS, i know the latter isn't anywhere near as quick....

    Either way. i know i'd rather not sit in a french tin when i could have the option of a better built car, with mod cons, quicker and smoother to drive.
    But most people on here do want to thats why this is a saxo forum for saxo enthusiasts
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  54. #54
    Is a raceland manifold worth the buy at a fairly decent price and good guarantee or are there better ones for also a decent price ?

    Just thought id try changing the topic ;D lol
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  55. #55
    You have to take saxos for what they are, they are good cars considering they are only a 1.6 n/a engine, and they are "quick"....quick for a 1.6 engine, enjoy your car for what it is
  56. #56
    Wow another thread turned into an arguement.

    Lets sum up.

    Vts will NOT do 100mph in 10 seconds. Not even a turbo, supercharged, throttlebodied,cammed,system,decat,airfilter,forge d internals and a map will give you 100mph in 10 seconds!

    Common arguement i hear is "the saxo only weighs 900kg" and to that i have a big fat SO WHAT? Even at 900kg they are still 7.6 to 60 and 21 seconds to 100!

    From what i can see, people on this forum have too many opinions. As much as people are entitled to them it doesn't mean you can force your opinion over somebody else. If i we're christian, i would not force a muslim to follow my religion or GTFO.

    I would also like to point out, comments such as "saxo's are shit" have no substance here. It is an uneducated reply to the fact you actually know nothing about cars.

    I've been in, driven fast cars, compared to VTS/VTR they are alot quicker. However for a 1.6, they are light, handle well, respond well to modifications and cheap to buy.

    This thread has gone completely off topic as should be closed. Answer is simple as explained above.

    VTR - 100mph = 29 seconds
    VTS - 100mph = 21 seconds

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  57. #57
    Fair comments, for the record I was saying I'd guess it to be around 10 seconds quicker to 100mph than a VTR, not that it takes 10 seconds to get to 100mph!! the O.P's question was how much quicker is a VTS than a VTR to 100? - (Now I know it's 8 seconds!)

    Thread should be closed
  58. #58
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SnakeVTR View Post
    You have to take saxos for what they are, they are good cars considering they are only a 1.6 n/a engine, and they are "quick"....quick for a 1.6 engine, enjoy your car for what it is
    100% agree with this.

    so many people on here are simply deluded. As i said earlier, for the money and engine size theyre great! But by todays standards and compared to many other cars, theyre pretty awful.

    does my swede in when theres a comparison between a nice well built modern car full of modcons designed for just being nice to drive around in, and someone says "yeah but a cammed and stripped out vts is just as quick"... perfect example is the guy in gen chat who's after a corsa VXR for a nice daily driver. it became full of generic, it's not as good as a saxo comments.
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  59. #59
    Some people on this site need to get a grip and realise that a 'stripped out cammed VTS' is not faster than EVERY other car in the world.
  60. #60
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate View Post
    Some people on this site need to get a grip and realise that a 'stripped out cammed VTS' is not faster than EVERY other car in the world.
    o r l y ?
  61. #61
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR View Post
    be careful what you say on here! all the haters may see, and try to prove you wrong!
    but that is soo true.
    you got / had any yourself?
    lol, shhhhhh i dont think they seens me

    been riding bikes since i was 3 mate lol, not had many on the road(bout 5) as i dont have full license currently, just been 125s, although i have had alot of bikes, and been naughty and played a bit on lots of mates

    usually motorcross/enduro for me, trying to find a nice cr500 as i sold mine a few yer back and really want another

    i bought an nsr 125 full power a couple of months back to play on for the summer, but after and hour or 2 i remembered how slow they are and got bored so i sold it

    before the warriors start twisting at me for playing on mates bikes etc it was generally on really quiet country lanes up in the mountains etc, so hush up
  62. #62
    not read through the thread but my car in the wet in its current spec did 0-100 ROUGHLY in 13.5secs. thats with wheelspin in 1st, 2nd,3rd. on a dry day and when its properly mapped running mans boost i expect around 10sec maybe less
  63. #63
    Some people on this forum are retarded.As tonto says a s2000 will beat a vts!
  64. #64
    lololololol im getting a vts next if there as fast as VTRGT says!
  65. #65
    to be fair, everyone on this forum that doesnt own a saxo are sad as fuck, have you not got anything better to do than show off about what car/bike you have now and how better it is than a saxo? get a life. so you may have had a saxo before, but you havent now, so fuck off and post on a different forum where there are other special cases like yourselves that may actualy care.
  66. #66
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rick_VTR View Post
    to be fair, everyone on this forum that doesnt own a saxo are sad as fuck, have you not got anything better to do than show off about what car/bike you have now and how better it is than a saxo? get a life. so you may have had a saxo before, but you havent now, so fuck off and post on a different forum where there are other special cases like yourselves that may actualy care.
    Sorry oh ruler of the internet forums. You sound bitter because you are still driving a Saxo, is this the case?
    trollolol
  67. #67
    I think its more the people with newer better cars are generally older and been there done that expereinced compared to younger inexperienced drivers that are still learning (not in all cases btw).

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dave_E30 View Post
    Sorry oh ruler of the internet forums. You sound bitter because you are still driving a Saxo, is this the case?
    trollolol
    LOL
  68. #68
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rick_VTR View Post
    to be fair, everyone on this forum that doesnt own a saxo are sad as fuck, have you not got anything better to do than show off about what car/bike you have now and how better it is than a saxo? get a life. so you may have had a saxo before, but you havent now, so fuck off and post on a different forum where there are other special cases like yourselves that may actualy care.
    Anyone who is jealous about they fact that someone owns a better car than him (which, considering you drive a saxo, isn't exactly hard), and feels the need to rant about it on the internet is the real special needs case here.
  69. #69
    i dont know what all the anger is about i got a near standard vtr and at 40mph i could easily hammer a buggati veyron doing 35
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  70. #70
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Morgzc View Post
    Anyone who is jealous about they fact that someone owns a better car than him (which, considering you drive a saxo, isn't exactly hard), and feels the need to rant about it on the internet is the real special needs case here.

    I prefer to brag about owning myown house than a car, better bragging rights, yes you can touch me lol
  71. #71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by the_mighty_booosh View Post
    I prefer to brag about owning myown house than a car, better bragging rights, yes you can touch me lol
    LOL everytime i see you post, your postcount goes down lol
  72. #72
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pug205 View Post
    Wow another thread turned into an arguement.

    Lets sum up.

    Vts will NOT do 100mph in 10 seconds. Not even a turbo, supercharged, throttlebodied,cammed,system,decat,airfilter,forge d internals and a map will give you 100mph in 10 seconds!

    Common arguement i hear is "the saxo only weighs 900kg" and to that i have a big fat SO WHAT? Even at 900kg they are still 7.6 to 60 and 21 seconds to 100!

    From what i can see, people on this forum have too many opinions. As much as people are entitled to them it doesn't mean you can force your opinion over somebody else. If i we're christian, i would not force a muslim to follow my religion or GTFO.

    I would also like to point out, comments such as "saxo's are shit" have no substance here. It is an uneducated reply to the fact you actually know nothing about cars.

    I've been in, driven fast cars, compared to VTS/VTR they are alot quicker. However for a 1.6, they are light, handle well, respond well to modifications and cheap to buy.

    This thread has gone completely off topic as should be closed. Answer is simple as explained above.

    VTR - 100mph = 29 seconds
    VTS - 100mph = 21 seconds

    /Thread
    If you were a christian, what the fuck would you be doing in a mosque in the first place?
  73. #73
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    Originally Posted by Pug205 View Post
    LOL everytime i see you post, your postcount goes down lol
    I'm a legend that's why
  74. #74
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    Originally Posted by rick_VTR View Post
    to be fair, everyone on this forum that doesnt own a saxo are sad as fuck, have you not got anything better to do than show off about what car/bike you have now and how better it is than a saxo? get a life. so you may have had a saxo before, but you havent now, so fuck off and post on a different forum where there are other special cases like yourselves that may actualy care.
    I actually bought a saxo after getting a "better" car
  75. #75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shauno_Saxo View Post
    If you were a christian, what the fuck would you be doing in a mosque in the first place?
    I don't remember being in a mosque?..
  76. #76
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pug205 View Post
    I don't remember being in a mosque?..
    People are coming onto a Saxo forum to tell people Saxo's are wank. It would be like you going into a Mosque and hyping Christianity.
  77. #77
    lol funny thread...

    Agree with most people on here saxo are good for the money but there are defo alot better quicker cars out there that are also good for the money..

    Clio sport FTW

    awaits argument on the clio comment
  78. #78
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rick_VTR View Post
    to be fair, everyone on this forum that doesnt own a saxo are sad as fuck, have you not got anything better to do than show off about what car/bike you have now and how better it is than a saxo? get a life. so you may have had a saxo before, but you havent now, so fuck off and post on a different forum where there are other special cases like yourselves that may actualy care.
    What a knob!

    You'll find most of the people that have better cars now probably made all the guides that you use on this forum or pass on the knowledge when your asking for advice about your saxo.
  79. #79
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stupotvtr View Post
    What a knob!

    You'll find most of the people that have better cars now probably made all the guides that you use on this forum or pass on the knowledge when your asking for advice about your saxo.
    +1

    this is a very true statement..
  80. #80
    Poeple aint saying saxo's are shit, justputting people right who think theyre invinsible.

    As the above post says, they are very good cars for the money and have alot of potential.

    Compare like for like (no mods on both or the same mods on both) and the saxo is not as good as you might think it is.

    Id still go through the same timeline of cars with the saxo as its cheap n cheerful, good to learn about mechanics on etc.
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  81. #81
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stupotvtr View Post
    What a knob!

    You'll find most of the people that have better cars now probably made all the guides that you use on this forum or pass on the knowledge when your asking for advice about your saxo.
    Exactly what I was trying to say with an earlier psot.
  82. #82
    saxos are rubbish i had 2 of them,

    VTS's are not fast there nippy, but cant get much better for the money
  83. #83
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stupotvtr View Post
    What a knob!

    You'll find most of the people that have better cars now probably made all the guides that you use on this forum or pass on the knowledge when your asking for advice about your saxo.
    yes thats true, but if they were once a saxo owner and joined this forum as a saxo owner, why do they try to belittle all the saxo owners now who have bought a saxo as there first car because its not as good as theres? people come on here for help (myself being one) and all some people do is take the piss and tell them saxos are shit, theres just no need for it.
  84. #84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonto_VTR View Post
    iv driven more cars than youve had hot dinners. no an s2k isnt fast either, but its still faster than a fucking vts ffs. its a fucking small 1.6 hatch, not a fucking porsche, its not a PERFORMANCE car, what it is with every cunt on this site thinking they are the best thing fucking ever?!

    230 bhp to a vts 120
    1200 kilo to 900 kilo - 300 kilo wont make that much difference to something that can rev twice as hard, and have 110 more ponies.
    a saxo runs out of puff, ALOT sooner than the s2k, that will just keep pulling and pulling to the redline, where the saxo will stop pulling from pretty much pulling away.

    unless your a fat cunt. but you obviously not fat in your super fast saxo...
    Calm down dear, it's only a discussion thread!

    There really is no need for all the expletives. It's really unpleasant to read. There are rules on this site. I really think you should give them a little read.
  85. #85
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by moxy89 View Post
    saxos are rubbish i had 2 of them,

    VTS's are not fast there nippy, but cant get much better for the money
    true.

    But my AX turbo is pretty quick and many other track turbo saxo's are pretty quick

    you only have to watch that vid of tams AX and see what its all about - it literally hammers all the cars people on here claim wil eat a VTS and many of those cars prob cost twice as much.
  86. #86
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rick_VTR View Post
    yes thats true, but if they were once a saxo owner and joined this forum as a saxo owner, why do they try to belittle all the saxo owners now who have bought a saxo as there first car because its not as good as theres? people come on here for help (myself being one) and all some people do is take the piss and tell them saxos are shit, theres just no need for it.
    Some of us had it when we were once saxo owners too from the older more experienced owners. Poeple put you right and u learn,or u get more experienced and you learn. No ones taking the piss, if they are its because its an absurd statement theyve made!
  87. #87
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by moxy89 View Post
    saxos are rubbish i had 2 of them,

    VTS's are not fast there nippy, but cant get much better for the money
    They're not that bad. I've know quite a few people who have owned 4 or 5 year old VWs and Audi's and who couldn't wait to get rid of them because they were so unreliable and expensive to fix.

    I agree though that, for the money, they are hard to beat performance wise
  88. #88
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by db_sax View Post
    Some of us had it when we were once saxo owners too from the older more experienced owners. *Poeple* put you right and u learn,or u get more experienced and you learn. No ones taking the piss, if they are its because its an absurd statement theyve made!
    People

    See, even Danny has to learn


    Nobody is saying saxo's are shit, but too many people think that a saxo is the fastest car and will beat anything on the road.
    Yes, for the price they are they are about the quickest you can get, and cost next to nothing to maintain/repair. So they are a good car, but performance wise they really aren't all that special (once you have driven a proper performance car that is)
  89. #89
    VTS's are cheap to buy and cheap to mod, they are a cracking little nimble car for the price. But i think far to many people get deluded with them that their cammed stripped out 150bhp Saxo will destroy m3's and such.
  90. #90
    just my input.

    some of the guys who claim to have "beaten" this that and the other may have...the other car may have been in the wrong gear or the driver isnt up to the job. so in THAT instant there car is quicker...i agree though that with all things equal then the s2000 in this case would win. but they arent rockets thats for sure. im not biased either.


    there is too much cock swinging on this forum by regular posters.
  91. #91
    ohhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  92. #92
    i think having a saxo is great...but only because its pretty much the best car i can afford insurance wise because of my age...i dont want one forever.