was just wondering i knw the vts is quicker to 60 and will be to 100mph but does anybody know how many seconds its quicker to 100mph than the vtr both standard. cheers.
0-100mph saxo vtr vs saxo vts
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#2no one on this site, would dare to go over the speed limit.
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#3for track days mate
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#4Have owned both. Don't know exactly but I'd guestimate around 10 seconds. The VTS is noticeably quicker than the VTR and even upset a mate's S2000 on a few occasions, the VTR didn't....1 user thanked this post:
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#5thank you m8 jheeez dont know why tonto_vtr was being soO angry
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#6don't think he was being angry, pretty sure he was joking ;-)
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#8hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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#9oh sorri pal,looool u do get the odd ppl here tho
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#11i will remember that pal,lol hay funny cunts are sumtyms gud to hav around
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#12The VTR is fine in isolation but once you get to around 100mph (on private runways or the Autobahn) they lose interest. The VTS is happy to keep on going though and I even saw 135mph on the Sat Nav once
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#13right enough is enough im gna sell my vtr to get a vts especially now my insurance is cheap, i thought thr wasnt much of a difference but every1 says vts is sooO much quicker than the vtr..
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#14but its still not massively quick... or fast imo.Quote:The VTR is fine in isolation but once you get to around 100mph (on private runways or the Autobahn) they lose interest. The VTS is happy to keep on going though and I even saw 135mph on the Sat Nav once
people are soo deluded about the performance of a VTS these days
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#15tru and it is hard to find one that hasnt been thrashed about i mean thats what they are thr 4... i knw that the vtr has a more reliable engine tho the 8v is gud and less noisy than the 16v
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#16of course it's not 'massively' quick but for what it is, it keeps up with a lot of supposedly much quicker cars. It's not just the straight line speed, but the fact they are so much lighter than most cars these days, which helps round the corners and under braking too.
I've had a 280bhp Impreza, a 231bhp Z4 and a Clio 182 yet the VTS never felt much slower than them.
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#17youre mate cant drive for shit then, clearly.Quote:of course it's not 'massively' quick but for what it is, it keeps up with a lot of supposedly much quicker cars. It's not just the straight line speed, but the fact they are so much lighter than most cars these days, which helps round the corners and under braking too.
I've had a 280bhp Impreza, a 231bhp Z4 and a Clio 182 yet the VTS never felt much slower than them.
By the way, my mate's S2000 is quicker but it takes a while for him to get past. Stick a few more mods on the VTS and you'd keep up with a car like that anywhere.
and, the saxo FEELS fast, because of its compact size
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#18actually he can... I expect you've never had a race against one or ever driven one so you comment doesn't hold much water.
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#19Second this. Not alot keeps up with my mates VTS tbf, even though it's had alot of work spent on it. Obviously there are much faster cars, but just depends which cars we're talking about!
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#20iv driven more cars than youve had hot dinners. no an s2k isnt fast either, but its still faster than a fucking vts ffs. its a fucking small 1.6 hatch, not a fucking porsche, its not a PERFORMANCE car, what it is with every cunt on this site thinking they are the best thing fucking ever?!Quote:actually he can... I expect you've never had a race against one or ever driven one so you comment doesn't hold much water.
Take a VTS to a track and you'll be surprised what it keeps up with...
230 bhp to a vts 120
1200 kilo to 900 kilo - 300 kilo wont make that much difference to something that can rev twice as hard, and have 110 more ponies.
a saxo runs out of puff, ALOT sooner than the s2k, that will just keep pulling and pulling to the redline, where the saxo will stop pulling from pretty much pulling away.
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#21this is my vtr 0-near 100(if id dont get too 100) wasnt full chat, just a little taster

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#22tonto your my favourite member todayQuote:iv driven more cars than youve had hot dinners. no an s2k isnt fast either, but its still faster than a fucking vts ffs. its a fucking small 1.6 hatch, not a fucking porsche, its not a PERFORMANCE car, what it is with every cunt on this site thinking they are the best thing fucking ever?!
230 bhp to a vts 120
1200 kilo to 900 kilo - 300 kilo wont make that much difference to something that can rev twice as hard, and have 110 more ponies.
a saxo runs out of puff, ALOT sooner than the s2k, that will just keep pulling and pulling to the redline, where the saxo will stop pulling from pretty much pulling away.
unless your a fat cunt. but you obviously not fat in your super fast saxo...
so much truth in a single post
EDIT- fook, my vid fails as the title gives it away a tad
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#24Here mate, the vts had racing stripes and wind deflectors, so pipe down.Quote:iv driven more cars than youve had hot dinners. no an s2k isnt fast either, but its still faster than a fucking vts ffs. its a fucking small 1.6 hatch, not a fucking porsche, its not a PERFORMANCE car, what it is with every cunt on this site thinking they are the best thing fucking ever?!
230 bhp to a vts 120
1200 kilo to 900 kilo - 300 kilo wont make that much difference to something that can rev twice as hard, and have 110 more ponies.
a saxo runs out of puff, ALOT sooner than the s2k, that will just keep pulling and pulling to the redline, where the saxo will stop pulling from pretty much pulling away.
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#28mates got one, not been on "quick" bikes for a while, took it to 140mph from a standing start, that was quick enough for me, not scared of the speed/acceleration, but when youve not had much play in a while it does take you back just how quick they do get your foot in the coffinQuote:0-60: 3.31s
0-100:6.57s
0-140:13.17s
Standing 1/4 mile: 11.07s @ 131.49mph
Standing mile: 28.63s @ 167.93
the standings, isnt that impressive*. but once shes up and above the 9/10k RPM limit, she fucking flies!
*compared to other bikes
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#29oh aye!Quote:mates got one, not been on "quick" bikes for a while, took it to 140mph from a standing start, that was quick enough for me, not scared of the speed/acceleration, but when youve not had much play in a while it does take you back just how quick they do get your foot in the coffin
its a shame soo many people lack respect for the performance of such small engines! even if they dont like bikes, you cant argue about the immense design of these things!
i didnt ride mine for 6-7 months when the bad weather kicked in over winter, jumping back on it was abit of a shock tbh! now ive done a few things to her, its just all full blown shits and giggles, 110mph wheelies, and the noise from bouncing off the limiter at 17500Rpm is unbeatable!
just need to try and up and smoothen out the power curve a tad, and it will be highly impressive.2 users thanked this post: , -
#30bikes through and through tbh mate, i LOVE cars but bikes are just special, not a feeling ive experienced yet that even comes close to opening up a bike you have feelings for, anyone who loves a car and slates a bike has either never ridden one or is scared of them -FACT
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#31A standard VTS vs an S2000? I had a play with one in my 182 and its a much quicker car once up in the vtec rpms, so vs a standard vts it'd be no contest
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#34Vts is 7 seconds quicker to 100mph than a Vtr
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#36be careful what you say on here! all the haters may see, and try to prove you wrong!Quote:bikes through and through tbh mate, i LOVE cars but bikes are just special, not a feeling ive experienced yet that even comes close to opening up a bike you have feelings for, anyone who loves a car and slates a bike has either never ridden one or is scared of them -FACT
but that is soo true.
you got / had any yourself?
that is fucking hideous!Quote:Vts is 7 seconds quicker to 100mph than a Vtr
Vts 22 seconds to 100
Vtr 29 seconds to 100
ive just looked at the figure for my Leon its 18.4 . . . that too is terrible.
cars are soo boring.

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#38You're boring mate, but at least you acknowledge the fact you're a cunt. If you can't appreciate Saxos for what they are, you should fuck off to a Seat or bike forum insteadQuote:
that is fucking hideous!
ive just looked at the figure for my Leon its 18.4 . . . that too is terrible.
cars are soo boring.


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#39to right, people on here think vts are the best because this is A SAXO FORUM & what saxo is faster than a vts ?
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#40Lol....he has a car that is quicker than a saxo, and a bike that will hit 100 quicker than you can put your car in gear.Quote:You're boring mate, but at least you acknowledge the fact you're a cunt. If you can't appreciate Saxos for what they are, you should fuck off to a Seat or bike forum instead

Saxo's aint quick, they are nippy at best, handle ok and make decent track toys for little money.
Unfortunatly thats about it.
Lad above, yes this is a saxo forum, but alot of members have been on here for a good few years and moved on to bigger and better things.
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#41saxos are shit
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#43this. People on here should try driving a fast car, they'd change their tune about saxos afterwards. They're fun to drive up until 100 mph. Beyond that nothing special.
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#46if your moving to a faster car move to a faster car forum. people here love saxos and thats what this is all about.
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#47can only add a big ol' +1 to this lolQuote:youre mate cant drive for shit then, clearly.
and, the saxo FEELS fast, because of its compact size
good driver in both. s2k will shit on a saxo.
and looks cooler than the saxo whilst doing it too.
and a Z4 not feeling as quick as a saxo with 321bhp? are you crazy? went to the ring last year in a z3m (same engine) and it was el rapido. far quicker than any saxo i've owned / been in.
saxos are great cars for the money. i've loved all of my french tins. but that doesn't justify pure delusion from a lot of members on here that seem to think that theyre the best handling car, and can surpass many bigger powered cars on track. Don't get me wrong, a saxo with just decent tyres brakes and suspension can keep up with a lot of cars, but a lot of it comes down to how easy the saxo is to drive quickly in comparison to a big powered rwd car. -
#48- Who cares what he drives/rides. I've been on quicker rollercoasters than his bike but I don't go on bike forums slagging off their performance...Quote:Lol....he has a car that is quicker than a saxo, and a bike that will hit 100 quicker than you can put your car in gear.
Saxo's aint quick, they are nippy at best, handle ok and make decent track toys for little money.
Unfortunatly thats about it.
Lad above, yes this is a saxo forum, but alot of members have been on here for a good few years and moved on to bigger and better things.
The vts is the top model yes, but its by no means the 'dogs bollocks'.
- How do you define quick, everyone has different ideas about what's quick and what isn't? 0-60 in just over 7 seconds is quicker than average...
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#49Read my post againQuote:can only add a big ol' +1 to this lol
good driver in both. s2k will shit on a saxo.
and looks cooler than the saxo whilst doing it too.
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#52lol... I can assure you i don't have dyslexia.Quote:
Regardless; 231bhp is still virtually double the saxos power. and the z4 will enventually eat it (especially on a track) with ease.
Standard for standard, a Z4 will be lapping the ring for example nearly a minute quicker with equal ability drivers.
Driver difference plays such a massive part. Saxo's are easy to drive quick and look like a hero. the same can't be said for a bigger rwd car for example. something else is that is over looked is smoothness of the drive, a VTS is very peaky, theyre useless as a 'quick' car below 4k revs, and thus feel quick above it. My current car is running 230bhp with similar torque figures, and although it weighs over 300kg more than my VTS, i know the latter isn't anywhere near as quick....
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#53But most people on here do want to thats why this is a saxo forum for saxo enthusiastsQuote:lol... I can assure you i don't have dyslexia.
Regardless; 231bhp is still virtually double the saxos power. and the z4 will enventually eat it (especially on a track) with ease.
Standard for standard, a Z4 will be lapping the ring for example nearly a minute quicker with equal ability drivers.
Driver difference plays such a massive part. Saxo's are easy to drive quick and look like a hero. the same can't be said for a bigger rwd car for example. something else is that is over looked is smoothness of the drive, a VTS is very peaky, theyre useless as a 'quick' car below 4k revs, and thus feel quick above it. My current car is running 230bhp with similar torque figures, and although it weighs over 300kg more than my VTS, i know the latter isn't anywhere near as quick....
Either way. i know i'd rather not sit in a french tin when i could have the option of a better built car, with mod cons, quicker and smoother to drive.
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#54Is a raceland manifold worth the buy at a fairly decent price and good guarantee or are there better ones for also a decent price ?
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#55You have to take saxos for what they are, they are good cars considering they are only a 1.6 n/a engine, and they are "quick"....quick for a 1.6 engine, enjoy your car for what it is
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#56Wow another thread turned into an arguement.
Lets sum up.
Vts will NOT do 100mph in 10 seconds. Not even a turbo, supercharged, throttlebodied,cammed,system,decat,airfilter,forge d internals and a map will give you 100mph in 10 seconds!
Common arguement i hear is "the saxo only weighs 900kg" and to that i have a big fat SO WHAT? Even at 900kg they are still 7.6 to 60 and 21 seconds to 100!
From what i can see, people on this forum have too many opinions. As much as people are entitled to them it doesn't mean you can force your opinion over somebody else. If i we're christian, i would not force a muslim to follow my religion or GTFO.
I would also like to point out, comments such as "saxo's are shit" have no substance here. It is an uneducated reply to the fact you actually know nothing about cars.
I've been in, driven fast cars, compared to VTS/VTR they are alot quicker. However for a 1.6, they are light, handle well, respond well to modifications and cheap to buy.
This thread has gone completely off topic as should be closed. Answer is simple as explained above.
VTR - 100mph = 29 seconds
VTS - 100mph = 21 seconds
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#57Fair comments, for the record I was saying I'd guess it to be around 10 seconds quicker to 100mph than a VTR, not that it takes 10 seconds to get to 100mph!! the O.P's question was how much quicker is a VTS than a VTR to 100? - (Now I know it's 8 seconds!)
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#58100% agree with this.Quote:You have to take saxos for what they are, they are good cars considering they are only a 1.6 n/a engine, and they are "quick"....quick for a 1.6 engine, enjoy your car for what it is

so many people on here are simply deluded. As i said earlier, for the money and engine size theyre great! But by todays standards and compared to many other cars, theyre pretty awful.
does my swede in when theres a comparison between a nice well built modern car full of modcons designed for just being nice to drive around in, and someone says "yeah but a cammed and stripped out vts is just as quick"... perfect example is the guy in gen chat who's after a corsa VXR for a nice daily driver. it became full of generic, it's not as good as a saxo comments.1 user thanked this post: -
#59Some people on this site need to get a grip and realise that a 'stripped out cammed VTS' is not faster than EVERY other car in the world.
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#61lol, shhhhhh i dont think they seens meQuote:be careful what you say on here! all the haters may see, and try to prove you wrong!
but that is soo true.
you got / had any yourself?
been riding bikes since i was 3 mate lol, not had many on the road(bout 5) as i dont have full license currently, just been 125s, although i have had alot of bikes, and been naughty and played a bit on lots of mates
usually motorcross/enduro for me, trying to find a nice cr500 as i sold mine a few yer back and really want another
i bought an nsr 125 full power a couple of months back to play on for the summer, but after and hour or 2 i remembered how slow they are and got bored so i sold it
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#62not read through the thread but my car in the wet in its current spec did 0-100 ROUGHLY in 13.5secs. thats with wheelspin in 1st, 2nd,3rd. on a dry day and when its properly mapped running mans boost i expect around 10sec maybe less
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#63Some people on this forum are retarded.As tonto says a s2000 will beat a vts!
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#64lololololol im getting a vts next if there as fast as VTRGT says!
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#65to be fair, everyone on this forum that doesnt own a saxo are sad as fuck, have you not got anything better to do than show off about what car/bike you have now and how better it is than a saxo? get a life. so you may have had a saxo before, but you havent now, so fuck off and post on a different forum where there are other special cases like yourselves that may actualy care.
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#66Sorry oh ruler of the internet forums. You sound bitter because you are still driving a Saxo, is this the case?Quote:to be fair, everyone on this forum that doesnt own a saxo are sad as fuck, have you not got anything better to do than show off about what car/bike you have now and how better it is than a saxo? get a life. so you may have had a saxo before, but you havent now, so fuck off and post on a different forum where there are other special cases like yourselves that may actualy care.
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#67I think its more the people with newer better cars are generally older and been there done that expereinced compared to younger inexperienced drivers that are still learning (not in all cases btw).
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#69i dont know what all the anger is about i got a near standard vtr and at 40mph i could easily hammer a buggati veyron doing 351 user thanked this post:
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#70Quote:Anyone who is jealous about they fact that someone owns a better car than him (which, considering you drive a saxo, isn't exactly hard), and feels the need to rant about it on the internet is the real special needs case here.
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#72If you were a christian, what the fuck would you be doing in a mosque in the first place?Quote:Wow another thread turned into an arguement.
Lets sum up.
Vts will NOT do 100mph in 10 seconds. Not even a turbo, supercharged, throttlebodied,cammed,system,decat,airfilter,forge d internals and a map will give you 100mph in 10 seconds!
Common arguement i hear is "the saxo only weighs 900kg" and to that i have a big fat SO WHAT? Even at 900kg they are still 7.6 to 60 and 21 seconds to 100!
From what i can see, people on this forum have too many opinions. As much as people are entitled to them it doesn't mean you can force your opinion over somebody else. If i we're christian, i would not force a muslim to follow my religion or GTFO.
I would also like to point out, comments such as "saxo's are shit" have no substance here. It is an uneducated reply to the fact you actually know nothing about cars.
I've been in, driven fast cars, compared to VTS/VTR they are alot quicker. However for a 1.6, they are light, handle well, respond well to modifications and cheap to buy.
This thread has gone completely off topic as should be closed. Answer is simple as explained above.
VTR - 100mph = 29 seconds
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#74I actually bought a saxo after getting a "better" carQuote:to be fair, everyone on this forum that doesnt own a saxo are sad as fuck, have you not got anything better to do than show off about what car/bike you have now and how better it is than a saxo? get a life. so you may have had a saxo before, but you havent now, so fuck off and post on a different forum where there are other special cases like yourselves that may actualy care.
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#77lol funny thread...
Agree with most people on here saxo are good for the money but there are defo alot better quicker cars out there that are also good for the money..
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#78What a knob!Quote:to be fair, everyone on this forum that doesnt own a saxo are sad as fuck, have you not got anything better to do than show off about what car/bike you have now and how better it is than a saxo? get a life. so you may have had a saxo before, but you havent now, so fuck off and post on a different forum where there are other special cases like yourselves that may actualy care.
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#80Poeple aint saying saxo's are shit, justputting people right who think theyre invinsible.
As the above post says, they are very good cars for the money and have alot of potential.
Compare like for like (no mods on both or the same mods on both) and the saxo is not as good as you might think it is.
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#82saxos are rubbish i had 2 of them,
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#83yes thats true, but if they were once a saxo owner and joined this forum as a saxo owner, why do they try to belittle all the saxo owners now who have bought a saxo as there first car because its not as good as theres? people come on here for help (myself being one) and all some people do is take the piss and tell them saxos are shit, theres just no need for it.
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#84Calm down dear, it's only a discussion thread!Quote:iv driven more cars than youve had hot dinners. no an s2k isnt fast either, but its still faster than a fucking vts ffs. its a fucking small 1.6 hatch, not a fucking porsche, its not a PERFORMANCE car, what it is with every cunt on this site thinking they are the best thing fucking ever?!
230 bhp to a vts 120
1200 kilo to 900 kilo - 300 kilo wont make that much difference to something that can rev twice as hard, and have 110 more ponies.
a saxo runs out of puff, ALOT sooner than the s2k, that will just keep pulling and pulling to the redline, where the saxo will stop pulling from pretty much pulling away.
unless your a fat cunt. but you obviously not fat in your super fast saxo...
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#85true.Quote:saxos are rubbish i had 2 of them,
VTS's are not fast there nippy, but cant get much better for the money
But my AX turbo is pretty quick and many other track turbo saxo's are pretty quick
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#86Some of us had it when we were once saxo owners too from the older more experienced owners. Poeple put you right and u learn,or u get more experienced and you learn. No ones taking the piss, if they are its because its an absurd statement theyve made!Quote:yes thats true, but if they were once a saxo owner and joined this forum as a saxo owner, why do they try to belittle all the saxo owners now who have bought a saxo as there first car because its not as good as theres? people come on here for help (myself being one) and all some people do is take the piss and tell them saxos are shit, theres just no need for it.
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#87They're not that bad. I've know quite a few people who have owned 4 or 5 year old VWs and Audi's and who couldn't wait to get rid of them because they were so unreliable and expensive to fix.Quote:saxos are rubbish i had 2 of them,
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#88PeopleQuote:Some of us had it when we were once saxo owners too from the older more experienced owners. *Poeple* put you right and u learn,or u get more experienced and you learn. No ones taking the piss, if they are its because its an absurd statement theyve made!

See, even Danny has to learn
Nobody is saying saxo's are shit, but too many people think that a saxo is the fastest car and will beat anything on the road.
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#89VTS's are cheap to buy and cheap to mod, they are a cracking little nimble car for the price. But i think far to many people get deluded with them that their cammed stripped out 150bhp Saxo will destroy m3's and such.
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#90just my input.
some of the guys who claim to have "beaten" this that and the other may have...the other car may have been in the wrong gear or the driver isnt up to the job. so in THAT instant there car is quicker...i agree though that with all things equal then the s2000 in this case would win. but they arent rockets thats for sure. im not biased either.
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#92i think having a saxo is great...but only because its pretty much the best car i can afford insurance wise because of my age...i dont want one forever.
