wiring diagram for changing engine plug vts into vtr

1. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

   #1 4th July 2011, 17:00

   iv tried looking for this but i just cant find it. im currently putting a saxo vts engine into a vtr, the vtr has a 1 big plug joining the loom together and the vts engine is 1 smaller plug, is it possible to crimp the big plug onto the vts loom? ifso is there any wiring diagrams anywhere?
2. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

   #2 5th July 2011, 13:55

   Anybody? Really Don't want to change the full interior lol
3. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

   #3 5th July 2011, 18:09

   what year is your saxo and what yeah was the saxo that you took the vts engine from
4. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

   #4 6th July 2011, 00:03

   98 vts going into 53 vtr
5. bru1s3r Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Devon Posts: 117 Mk1 VTR

   #5 6th July 2011, 08:19

   There you go, differant plugs, youll have to change interior looms or splice the looms together
6. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

   #6 6th July 2011, 08:38

   yeh i know that im just seeing if any1 will show me how to splice them ie wiring diagram etc, really dont want to change interior loom
7. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #7 6th July 2011, 22:54

   change the engine loom, its the best way on that year of vtr. im happy to help when im free seeing as your local, ive done the exact conversion, couldnt get it running right so just got a 3 plug ecu and loom so it was plug and play
8. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

   #8 6th July 2011, 23:15

   so i can run vtr engine loom on vtr ecu do you mean a 3 plug vts engine loom, id really like not to mess about and just join the plugs some how, cheers
9. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #9 6th July 2011, 23:39

   yeah i mean a 3 plug vts loom and ecu. the single plug ecu/loom doesnt run the radiator fan so you need to sort that out and i think you have issues due to having digi clocks instead of analogue ones. not to mention if you use the right loom it will look like a factory job rather than a convrsion.
   you can rewire it, but if you have to ask how you'll probably struggle, there isnt a diagram that i could find anywhere, only ecu pin outs
10. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #10 6th July 2011, 23:41

    also i suggested changing the engine loom because you mentioned changing the interior loom, which would be much more of a fuck about
11. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

    #11 6th July 2011, 23:42

    yeah true but then need different ecu dont i
12. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #12 6th July 2011, 23:44

    yeah, but you can sell the single plug for a similar price to what the 3 plug will cost. i managed to sell my single plug ecu and loom and buy a 3 plug ecu and loom and made a tenner profit.
13. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

    #13 6th July 2011, 23:45

    think im going to end up putting the full loom in with the mk1 clocks fitted aswell
14. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #14 6th July 2011, 23:47

    why bother? changing clocks alone is a harder and longer job than changing a loom!
15. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

    #15 6th July 2011, 23:49

    because its a 53 plate vtr with digital clocks if i change the interior loom to the mk1 vts loom it will only work with the mk1 clocks ?
16. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #16 6th July 2011, 23:51

    yeah but why would you prefer to fit a new interior loom and clocks (which will involve taking the dash out, and ending up with shit clocks) rather than fit an engine loom to match your car?
17. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

    #17 6th July 2011, 23:53

    coz i need it done asap its my mates n said id have it back to him in 2 days, now been 3 days and i cant find an engine loom and ecu anywhere local
18. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #18 6th July 2011, 23:54

    id ask him before you start doing that because changing the interior loom is one hell of a job if he still has a full interior
19. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

    #19 6th July 2011, 23:55

    yeah it is iv done it before and hated it, i just want the job done tbh and out my way so i can get paid lol
20. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #20 6th July 2011, 23:57

    pm saxo-vtr on here first, hes in blackburn and usually has loads of stuff for sale
21. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

    #21 6th July 2011, 23:57

    paul, yeh i will do cheers
22. user_39740 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 near manchester Posts: 1190 vtr'd FURIO....

    #22 6th July 2011, 23:58

    Bedford... I have a vts loom were the big interior plug was changed to a smaller one here give me a ring on the number below tonight if you like .
23. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #23 7th July 2011, 00:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bedford8256 paul, yeh i will do cheers

    his brother brian who has more stuff i think
24. user_39740 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 near manchester Posts: 1190 vtr'd FURIO....

    #24 7th July 2011, 00:31

    Lee ... I've got a single plug loom with small interior plug but before I got it ,it had a large connection plug would he be able to use the large vtr plug and change it back?
25. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #25 7th July 2011, 00:38

    tbh he could do exactly that with the loom hes already got
26. user_39740 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 near manchester Posts: 1190 vtr'd FURIO....

    #26 7th July 2011, 00:43

    Just thought it would be easier with the colours matching up
27. bedford8256 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 blackpool Posts: 1121 106 gti s2 china blue

    #27 7th July 2011, 08:13

    Yeh if I knew which wire went where I'd be Alryt lol
28. josh92vtr Newbie Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 15

    #28 10th August 2013, 08:51

    Yep same as me then single plug into my 53 Vtr pain don't have a fan no charge for some reason
29. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #29 10th August 2013, 14:21

    Fan controls don't work in the same way on a 3-plug as a single plug. You need to do some wiring on the car side after an engine change in order for the fan to work as it should.